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Title: U.S. Soldiers Trained in Torture Methods
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URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZmUv18a1zU&NR=1
Published: Sep 28, 2010
Author: Staff
Post Date: 2010-09-28 12:52:21 by Horse
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Views: 127
Comments: 9

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#1. To: Horse (#0)

Those torture photos from Abu Ghraib that appeared first in the australian newspaper were released by the US army to the public. Here's what they did. They had US & Israeli military intelligence people indoctrinate our soldiers in how to treat the prisoners. Our soldiers followed through with the systems they were taught. A few of these ordinary soldiers went on trial for mild abuses. and at their trials they said that they only did what they were taught. And they were found guilty, served some time. But meanwhile, the US army assigned one of its own officers to investigate Abu Ghraib. He went there and wrote a report, he said that over a limited period of time he investigated there were 33 or so deaths due to torture. and the army's own officer investigating said also that most of the people in that prison were simply picked up in a sweep with no real evidence against them. And if you saw the photos too, then you knew that some people got beaten to death in that prison.

so what does it mean? These torture tactics are done on purpose. and they want us to know that they do this. the fact that a few people were sent to prison for relatively minor abuses is merely part of the propaganda matrix. Some people under stress of cognitive dissonance can tell themselves that the US does not tolerate torture or abuse and point at the few jailed. Meanwhile, people with brains understand that the torture is done purposely.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-09-28   13:19:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Red Jones (#1)

Meanwhile, people with brains understand that the torture is done purposely.

It appears they're doing it in order to create some REAL terrorists where none existed before.

Got to keep that "War on Terror" gravy train ramped up you know...

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-09-28   14:45:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: FormerLurker (#2)

FormerLurker, years ago I read about the mind-control systems and it was described to me how the mind-control process works. and when I first learned that the US was collecting lots of prisoners in places like guantanamo, abu ghraib, and many other prisons in many places, and then I saw some of the sexually oriented tactics used with these prisoners, then I knew they were fishing for people in those prisons who would be vulnerable to the mind-control process. The mind control process involves usually sexual abuse and/or humiliation. I saw pictures of an iraqi prisoner in abu ghraib using a banana as a dildoe. and that was in the 'torture pictures' that the US army released to the public. there were other sexually oriented things done. prisoners made to be naked, ridiculed, forced into the pyramid position while naked, then the whole pyramid collapsed for man-fun I guess. We read reports of rapes including males and females being the victims. There is an undeniable sexual side to the torture that they do. There was a female intelligence person who used a technique of smearing menstrual blood on the faces of the arab prisoners. while she was partly naked too. and this woman came back and was used to train more US intelligence people at Fort Huachuca, AZ. The Arizona Republic quoted her on the menstrual blood method, she said it was effective.

they find people in these prisoners that they think are vulnerable. they test people and measure people for the proper responses. I have no evidence of this theory, it is just my conclusion. They take these vulnerable people and put them into secret prisons where the mind control program is carried out on them. Once they get to this stage they are like the walking dead. Because if they don't work out to be mind-controlled, then they'll be killed. If they do work out, then they'll be suicide bombers or perhaps death squad members. and that is how they get the people who do the many senseless attacks on muslims. as you know 98% of the people targeted by al quaeda are muslims. in Pakistan they've had cases where 80 or more people are blown up by suicide bombers. This stuff did not used to happen in the muslim world. Now it happens wherever the US targets, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Yemen, somalia, iraq. these are not the countries that have the pro-american governments like Egypt. People like to dismiss the US military as being stupid or ineffective, only able to win through superior resources. It is not true. They are extremely effective at what they do. Today in Iraq the responsible leader of Iraq like Turiq Aziz will openly ask for the Americans to stay in Iraq and help rule. whereas just 5 years ago opinion polls in Iraq showed that 95% of their people wanted the Americans to leave. We have subjugated Iraq totally. and how many of our own people did we lose? we can't trust our own military to tell us the truth, but in truth they did not lose very many considering the task. compared to how many they lost, 1.5 million.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-09-28   15:49:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Red Jones (#4)

The very nature of the abuse (and the associated photos and news reports) is designed to enrage not only those whose families and loved ones are the subject of such abuse, but to enrage the entire Muslim world itself.

By doing so, the military industrial complex has a guaranteed stream of "terrorists", who sooner or later will pick up arms and use them against American forces, thus necessitating prolonged involvement in that part of the world to "fight them over there instead of over here".

It's pretty simple and effective.

The mind control aspect is multi-faceted, in that not only does it achieve what I mention, but it does what you describe in terms of creating mind-controlled puppets who can be programmed to do anything the puppet masters desire.

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-09-28   16:04:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: FormerLurker (#5)

The very nature of the abuse (and the associated photos and news reports) is designed to enrage not only those whose families and loved ones are the subject of such abuse, but to enrage the entire Muslim world itself.

I agree. and the army's own people said that they just went through sections of the city and picked up people in sweeps to get prisoners for this abu ghraib facility. our military effort did everything possible to create opposition.

it should speak very loudly that we lost only 8 soldiers in afghanistan in 2001 and have lost a progressively higher number each year since. Because bigger war is the agenda. They didn't hardly resist at first. the resistance has grown.

and like you said, there's more than one aspect to the mind-control angle. So many people just accept whatever explanations told by the government/mass media. and in their minds they feel that any dissent on any idea is disloyal to the nation. and so they just go along no matter how ridiculous the propaganda is. smart people that swallow stupid ideas and explanations. and when you discuss it with them, they treat you like a conspiracy theorist.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-09-28   16:42:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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ghostdogtxn  posted on  2010-09-28   17:37:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#8. To: ghostdogtxn (#7)

ust because you perceive the likelihood of a conspiracy doesn't make you wacky

I know. and people in our society actually believe that anyone who doesn't buy the official conspiracy theories is a suspect person. People should always consider conspiracy theories, because conspiracies are normal. It is just a question as to how secret and how evil those conspiracies will be, but people always have conspiracies among them.

more than a few of our fellow Americans think a little bit like our classic impression of a NAZI yes-man.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-09-28 17:47:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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