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Title: 9/11 Related Quotes Ready for Email - Version 1
Source: 911 Blogger
URL Source: http://911blogger.com/news/2010-09- ... d-quotes-ready-email-version-1
Published: Sep 28, 2010
Author: David Fura
Post Date: 2010-09-28 15:42:49 by Original_Intent
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9/11 Related Quotes Ready for Email - Version 1
Submitted by David Fura on Sun, 09/26/2010 - 5:31pm

In looking for a way to write down facts that I can use to educate people I know about 9/11, I pretty much gave up trying to use my own words. Instead, this is what I've come up with. From 'experiments' I've run on friends and engineering co-workers, using quotes seems to be a good way to go.

Feel free to use as you see fit. I encourage everyone to email to everyone they have any influence over.

Comments appreciated.

Cheers,

David Fura


Please read, distribute, and act. For companion graphics: www.ae911truth.org/downloads/AEstreet_2.5beams.pdf

1. “September 11, 2001 seems destined to be the watershed event of our lives and the greatest test for our democracy in our lifetimes. The evidence of government complicity in the lead-up to the events, the failure to respond during the event, and the astounding lack of any meaningful investigation afterwards, as well as the ignoring of evidence turned up by others that renders the official explanation impossible, may signal the end of the American experiment.” -- Lt. Col. Shelton F. Lankford, U.S. Marine Corps (ret) [1]

2. “I have watched the construction of many large buildings and also have personally witnessed 5 controlled demolitions in Kansas City. When I saw the towers fall on 9/11, I knew something was wrong and my first instinct was that it was impossible. When I saw building 7 fall, I knew it was a CD [controlled demolition].” -- Chester Gearhart, Civil Engineer (ret), pg.xiii in [2].

3. “It’s reminiscent of those pictures we’ve all seen too much on television where a building was deliberately destroyed by well-placed dynamite to knock it down.” -- Dan Rather, CBS News, reporting Building 7 collapse on Sept. 11, 2001

4. “This is controlled demolition ... A team of experts did this ... This is professional work, without any doubt.” -- Danny Jowenko, Controlled Demolitions Expert, viewing Building 7 collapse, @0:54:20 in [3]

5. “Faced with a court order and unyielding demands from the families of victims, the city of New York yesterday opened part of its archive of records from Sept. 11, releasing a digital avalanche of oral histories ... The oral histories were gathered in 2001 on the instructions of Thomas Von Essen, who was fire commissioner on Sept. 11. The New York Times sought copies under the freedom of information law in early 2002, but Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg’s administration refused, leading to litigation. Earlier this year, the state Court of Appeals ordered the release of most of the materials.” -- NY Times [4]

6. “It actually gave at a lower floor, not the floor where the plane hit, because we originally had thought there was like an internal detonation explosives because it went in succession, boom, boom, boom, boom, and then the tower came down.” -- Firefighter Ed Cachia, in oral histories, pg. 12 in [5]

7. “I thought that when I looked in the direction of the Trade Center before it came down, before Number Two came down, that I saw low-level flashes. In my conversation with Lieutenant Evangelista, never mentioning this to him, he questioned me and asked me if I saw low-level flashes in front of the building, and I agreed with him ... I saw a flash-flash-flash, and then it looked like the building came down. ... No, the lower level of the building. You know like when they demolish a building, how they blow up a building, when it falls down? That’s what I thought I saw.” -- F.D.N.Y Assistant Commissioner Stephen Gregory, in oral histories, pg. 10 in [5]

8. “We have 118 witnesses out of a pool of 503. Over 23 per cent of our group are explosion witnesses.” -- Prof. Graeme MacQueen, on the oral histories [6]

9. Question: “Why did NIST not consider a ‘controlled demolition’ hypothesis with matching computer modeling and explanation as it did for the ‘pancake theory’ hypothesis?” NIST response: “... there is conclusive evidence that: the collapse was initiated in the impact and fire floors of the WTC towers and nowhere else, ... there was no evidence (collected by ... Fire Department of New York) of any blast or explosions in the region below the impact and fire floors ...” -- NIST in [7]

10. “Well, here’s a 3-story top-down controlled demolition. ... Here’s a 20-story middle-down controlled demolition. You can start demolitions from wherever you would like.” -- @1:15:45 in [3].

11. “Here a chunk of steel was blown 400 feet, wedging itself deep into 3 World Financial Center on Vesey Street. A FEMA photographer taking pictures of ground zero wondered why so many steel beams were jutting from neighboring buildings. ... The portions of the tower that had the greatest structural members, the sky lobbies and the mechanical floors, had the perimeter units thrown farther ... These perimeter units landed on the Winter Garden, 600 feet away.” -- @1:28:10 in [3]

12. “About a year after the official program to identify victims had ended, more human remains turned up on top of the Deutsche Bank Building, which stands about 400 feet to the south of the location of the former South Tower. According to the Associated Press, more than 300 human bone fragments were recovered from the roof of the 43-story skyscraper ... Most fragments were less than 1/16th inch in length.” -- [8]

13. “You have two 110-story office buildings. You don't find a desk. You don't find a chair. You don't find a telephone, a computer. The biggest piece of a telephone I found was half of the keypad ... The building collapsed to dust.” -- Firefighter Joe Casaliggi @1:32:35 in [3].

14. “Concrete and other building materials were literally reduced to powder before hitting the ground, which is consistent only with demolition. If a building collapses due to fire or other hazards, concrete and other heavy materials are not reduced to powder.” -- Jeff King, Engineer/Scientist, MIT, pg. 31 in [5]

15. “In no instance did NIST report that steel in the WTC towers melted due to the fires. The melting point of steel is about 1,500 degrees Celsius (2,800 degrees Fahrenheit). Normal building fires and hydrocarbon (e.g., jet fuel) fires generate temperatures up to about 1,100 degrees Celsius (2,000 degrees Fahrenheit). -- NIST in [7]

16. “You’d get down below and you’d see molten steel, molten steel, running down the channel lengths, like you’re in a foundry, like lava.” -- Firefighter Ruvolo @0:33:45 in [3]

17. “In the basements of the collapsed towers, where the 47 central support columns connected with the bedrock, hot spots of ‘literally molten steel’ were discovered more than a month after the collapse. Such persistent and intense residual heat, 70 feet below the surface, in an oxygen starved environment, could explain how these crucial structural supports failed.” -- Mark Loizeaux, Controlled Demolition Inc. @0:30:10 in [3]

18. Question: “Why did the NIST investigation not consider reports of molten steel in the wreckage from the WTC towers?” NIST answer: “... The condition of the steel in the wreckage of the WTC towers (i.e., whether it was in a molten state or not) was irrelevant to the investigation of the collapse since it does not provide any conclusive information on the condition of the steel when the WTC towers were standing.” -- [7]

19. “The characteristics of these un-extinguishable fires have not been adequately explained as the results of a normal structure fire, even one accelerated by jet fuel. Conversely, such fires are better explained given the presence of chemical energetic materials, which provide their own fuel and oxidant and are not deterred by water, dust, or chemical suppressants.” -- Kevin Ryan, Chemist, et. al. [9]

20. “Keep your eye on that building, it’ll be coming down. ... The building is about to blow up. Move it back. ... We are walking back. ... Cause the building’s about to blow up. ... Flame and debris coming down.” -- Unidentified Ground Zero workers at Building 7, @0:56:20 in [3]

21. “He came back over with his hand over the radio and what sounded like a countdown. And at the last few seconds he took his hand off and you heard, ‘three, two, one,’ and he was just saying ‘just run for your life, just run for your life.’ And then it was like another two, three seconds, you heard explosions.” -- Kevin McPadden, former Air Force special operations search & rescue, at Building 7, @0:26:00 in [3]

22. “Yes, so basically they measured out how far the building was going to come, so we knew exactly where we could stand .... 5 blocks away. We could still see. Exactly right on point, the cloud stopped right there.’ ” -- EMT DeCosta Wright, on preparing to watch Building 7 collapse, pg. 35 in [5]

23. “This is directly from the 2001 Edition of the National Fire Protection Association NFPA 921 Guide for Fire and Explosion Investigations. ... ‘Thermite mixtures also produce exceedingly hot fires. Such accelerants generally leave residues that may be visually or chemically identifiable. ... As a result, the entire fire scene should be considered physical evidence and should be protected and preserved.’ ” -- firefightersfor911truth.org

24. “For more than three months, structural steel from the World Trade Center has been and continues to be cut up and sold for scrap. ... Such destruction of evidence shows the astounding ignorance of government officials to the value of a thorough, scientific investigation of the largest fire-induced collapse in world history. ... Fire Engineering has good reason to believe that the ‘official investigation’ blessed by FEMA and run by the American Society of Civil Engineers is a half-baked farce that may have been commandeered by political forces whose primary interests, to put it mildly, lie far afield of full disclosure. ... The destruction and removal of evidence must stop immediately.” -- Bill Manning, Editor Fire Engineering [10]

25. “Thermite is a pyrotechnic composition of a metal powder and a metal oxide, which produces an aluminothermic reaction known as a thermite reaction. ... The products are aluminum oxide, free elemental iron, and a large amount of heat. ... Nano-thermite or ‘super thermite’ is classed as an explosive.” -- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermite

26. “Micro-spheroidal particles in WTC dust consisting mostly of iron were documented in at least two scientific reports by 2005. ... Molten iron is one of the two principal products of the thermite reaction, the other being aluminum oxide, which tends to dissipate as an aerosol. ... Fast-acting super-thermites produce tiny droplets that become very nearly spherical due to surface tension. ... Elemental analysis of these droplets described below would show that they are dead ringers for known aluminothermic residues.” -- Jim Hoffman, Engineer [11]

27. “We have discovered distinctive red/gray chips in all the samples we have studied of the dust produced by the destruction of the World Trade Center. ... The red portion of these chips is found to be an unreacted thermitic material and highly energetic.” -- Neils Harrit, Prof. Chemistry, et. al. [12]

28. Question: “Did the NIST investigation look for evidence of the WTC towers being brought down by controlled demolition? Was the steel tested for explosives or thermite residues." NIST response: “NIST did not test for the residue of these compounds in the steel.” -- NIST in [7]

29. “No steel framed high-rise building has ever collapsed due to fire - due to the high temperatures that would be required to weaken structural steel past its critical safety margin - even though very large, very hot, and very long-lasting fires have ravaged many steel-structure high-rise buildings.” -- [13]

30. “We had designed the project for the impact of the largest airplane of its time, the Boeing 707. That is, to take this jet airplane, run it into the building, destroy a lot of structure, and still have it stand up.” -- John Skilling, WTC Structural Engineer, @1:03:00 in [3]

31. “I believe that the building probably could sustain multiple impacts of jetliners, because this structure is like the mosquito netting on your screen door - this intense grid. And the jet plane is just a pencil puncturing that screen netting.” -- Frank DeMartini, Manager WTC Construction @1:03:15 in [3]

32. “Both WTC 1 and WTC 2 were stable after the aircraft impact, standing for 102 min and 56 min, respectively. The global analyses with structural impact damage showed that both towers had considerable reserve capacity.” -- NIST, pg. 144 in [14]

33. “The initial jet fuel fires themselves lasted at most a few minutes. ... The principal combustibles on the fire floors were workstations. ... Conventional office workstations reached a peak burning rate in about 10 min and continued burning for a total of about a half hour.” -- NIST, pg. 179, 180 in [14]

34. “Accordingly, NIST contracted with Underwriters Laboratories, Inc. to conduct tests to obtain information on the fire endurance of truses like those in the WTC towers. ... All four test specimens sustained the maximum design load for approximately 2 hours without collapsing.” -- NIST, pg 140, 141 in [14]

35. Question: “How could the WTC towers collapse in only 11 seconds (WTC 1) and 9 seconds (WTC 2) - speeds that approximate that of a ball dropped from similar height in a vacuum (with no air resistance)?” NIST response: “... In other words, the momentum (which equals mass times velocity) of the 12 to 28 stories (WTC 1 and WTC 2, respectively) falling on the supporting structure below (which was designed to support only the static weight of the floors above and not any dynamic effects due to downward momentum) so greatly exceeded the strength capacity of the structure below that it (the structure below) was unable to stop or even to slow the falling mass.” -- [7]

36. “We have tracked the fall of the roof of the North Tower through 114.4 feet, (approximately 9 stories) and we have found that it did not suffer severe and sudden impact or abrupt deceleration. There was no jolt. Thus there could not have been any amplified load. In the absence of an amplified load there is no mechanism to explain the collapse of the lower portion of the building, which was undamaged by fire.” -- Prof. Graeme MacQueen, et. al. [15]

37. “The fact that the roof line of the upper section of the North Tower continued to accelerate downward through the collision with the lower section of the building indicates that the upper section could not have been acting as a pile driver. As long as the roof line was accelerating downward, the upper block, exerted a force less than its own static weight on the lower section of the building. ... The persistent acceleration of the top section is strong confirmation that some other source of energy was used to remove the structure below it.” -- David Chandler, High School Physics Teacher [16]

38. “Shyam Sunder is the lead investigator for the NIST analysis of the collapse of World Trade Center Building 7. In a technical briefing on August 26, Dr. Sunder clearly explained why freefall for World Trade Center 7 was impossible. ... That was before they were forced to acknowledge that freefall actually occurred. ... The onset of freefall was not only sudden, it extended across the whole width of the building. ... All 24 interior columns and 58 perimeter columns had to have been removed over the span of 8 floors low in the building simultaneously ... Explosive demolition is the only scenario put forward that could actually account for the observations. ... After all, as Shyam Sunder put it himself, freefall happens only when there are no structural components below the falling section of the building. Any natural scenario is going to involve a progression of failures and these don’t happen instantaneously.” -- David Chandler [17] (note: NIST admits 2.25 sec of pure freefall. Building 7 was not hit by an airplane.)

39. "NIST's so-called investigation actually consists of finding a way to reproduce the mysterious collapse of the building using a computer model. The assumption is if the computer model can be made to reproduce the observed collapse pattern, that must be how it happened. The problem is if something unexpected was going on, like explosives for instance, you're not going to discover it in a computer model. For that you need to look at the actual evidence." -- David Chandler [17]

40. "Let's look at NIST's model, except, we can't. The software they use in the model is available. But their model actually consists of all the numbers and measurements and assumptions together with any tweaks to the system ... If that information were released their results could be checked ... But NIST has not released the numbers. ... Is their model realistic? We don't know. ... We can't know without independent testing." -- David Chandler [17]

41. "... I hereby find that the disclosure of the information described below, received by the National Institute of Standards and Technology ("NIST"), in connection with its investigation of the technical causes of the collapse of the World Trade Center Towers and World Trade Center Building 7 on September 11, 2001, might jeopardize public safety. Therefore, NIST shall not release the following information: 1. All input and results files of the ANSYS 16-story collapse initiation model ... 2. All input files with connection material properties and all results files of the LS-DYNA 47-story global collapse model..." -- Patrick Gallagher, NIST Director, July 9, 2009 [18]

42. “The architectural drawings of the WTC North Tower have been leaked from an individual associated with the Silverstein-Weidinger Report. ... They also indicate that most of the core columns would be easily accessed from the elevator shafts in order to plant explosives.” -- [13]

43. “ACE Elevator Co. provided elevator maintenance for the WTC. They were in the middle of a modernization project and were working out of an office located on the 35th floor in the South Tower when the tragedy occurred" -- Elevator World [19]

44. “Marvin P. Bush, the president’s younger brother, was a principal in a company called Securacom that provided security for the World Trade Center ... According to the present CEO, Barry McDaniel, the company had an ongoing contract to handle security at the World Trade Center ‘up to the day the buildings fell down.’ “ -- [20]

45. “The World Trade Center was destroyed just days after a heightened security alert was lifted at the landmark 110-story towers, security personnel said yesterday [Sept. 11]. Daria Coard, 37, a guard at Tower One, said the security detail had been working 12-hour shifts for the past two weeks.” -- Curtis Taylor, Sean Gardiner, Newsday [21]

46. “Over the past few weeks we’d been evacuated a number of times, which is unusual. I think they had an inkling something was going on.” -- Bob Fountain, Fin. Analyst [22]

47. "In the early 1960s, America's top military leaders drafted plans to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba. Code named Operation Northwoods ... The plans had the written approval of all of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and were presented to President Kennedy's defense secretary, Robert McNamara, in March 1962. But they apparently were rejected by the civilian leadership and have gone undisclosed for nearly 40 years.” -- David Ruppe, ABC News [23]

48. "The largest U.S. intelligence agency, the National Security Agency, today declassified over 140 formerly top secret documents ... on the August 1964 Gulf of Tonkin incident. ... which confirms what historians have long argued: that there was no second attack on U.S. ships in Tonkin on August 4, 1964. ... President Johnson ... used this claim to support retaliatory air strikes and to buttress the administration's request for a Congressional resolution that would give the White House freedom of action in Vietnam." -- [24]

49. "On Sept. 10, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld declared war. Not on foreign terrorists, 'the adversary's closer to home. It's the Pentagon bureaucracy,' he said. ... 'According to some estimates we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions,' ... but the next day - Sept. 11 - the world changed and in the rush to fund the war on terrorism, the war on waste seems to have been forgotten. Just last week President Bush announced, 'my 2003 budget calls for more than $48 billion in new defense spending.' " -- CBS News [25]

50. “The 9/11 Commission now tells us that the official version of 9/11 was based on false testimony and documents and is almost entirely untrue. The details of this massive cover-up are carefully outlined in a book by John Farmer, who was the Senior Counsel for the 9/11 Commission. ... 9/11 Commission member and former US Senator, Bob Kerrey, says, ‘No one is more qualified to write the definitive book about the trajedy of 9/11 than John Farmer. Fortunately, he has done so.’ ” -- Gordon Duff, Salem-News.com [26]

51. "One of these days we will have to get the full story because the 9-11 issue is so important to America ...” -- Max Cleland, 9/11 Commisioner resigned in Dec. 2003 [1]

52. “Attacks directed at the 9/11 Truth Movement are on the increase as the Movement grows globally, drawing ever more from technical, scientific, intelligence, and military communities. While earlier criticism aimed only to insult and trivialize, more recent attacks have suggested stronger, even militant reaction.” -- Bill Willers, Prof. Biology (ret) [27]

53. “... titled ‘Internet: Incubator of 9/11 Conspiracies and Disinformation’ showed a video of building 7 collapsing as well as a screenshot of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth’s website in between websites which featured bomb-making techniques and a terrorist’s training manual.” -- [28]

54. “Particularly ominous is that the authors, who use ‘theorists’ and ‘extremists’ interchangeably, limit their focus to ‘potentially harmful theories’ ... And why do the authors consider the 9/11 Truth Movement such a ‘serious threat’ that it should be ‘broken up or at least muted by government action’? (pg 21)” -- Bill Willers, Prof. Biology (ret) [29]

55. “President Bush signed a secret order in 2002 authorizing the National Security Agency to eavesdrop on U.S. citizens and foreign nationals in the United States, despite previous legal prohibitions against such domestic spying ...” -- Dan Eggen, Washington Post Staff Writer [30]

56. “The director of national intelligence affirmed rather bluntly today that the U.S. intelligence community has authority to target American citizens for assassination ...” -- Jason Ryan, ABC News [31]

57. “A new U.S. Senate bill would grant the president far-reaching emergency powers to seize control of or even shut down portions of the Internet.” -- [32]

58. “Protecting democracy requires that the general public be educated on how people can be manipulated by government and media into forfeiting their civil liberties and duties. This article reviews research on cognitive constructs that can prevent people from processing information that challenges preexisting assumptions about government, dissent, and public discourse in democratic societies. Terror management theory and system justification theory are used to explain how preexisting beliefs can interfere with people’s examination of evidence for state crimes against democracy (SCADs), specifically in relation to the events of September 11, 2001...” -- Laurie Manwell, University of Guelph, Ontario [33]

59. “It has been used to justify all manners of measures to legalize repression at home and as a pretext for behaving as an aggressive empire abroad. Until we demand an independent, honest, and thorough investigation and accountability for those whose action and inaction led to those events and the cover-up, our republic and our Constitution remain in the gravest danger.” -- Lt. Col. Shelton F. Lankford, U.S. Marine Corps (ret) [1]

60. “On Behalf of the People of the United States of America, the undersigned Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth and affiliates hereby petition for, and demand, a truly independent investigation with subpoena power in order to uncover the full truth surrounding the events of 9/11/01 - specifically the collapse of the World Trade Center Towers and Building 7. We believe that there is sufficient doubt about the official story and therefore that the 9/11 investigation must be re-opened and must include a full inquiry into the possible use of explosives that may have been the actual cause behind the destruction of the World Trade Center Towers and WTC Building 7.” -- www.ae911truth.org/ (petition open to all)

61. “We must applaud Mr. Richard Gage and his colleagues, Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, for their tenacity in seeking to answer lingering questions concerning the total destruction of the World Trade Center complex, in particular buildings 1, 2, and 7. ... As family members of 9/11 victims, we have been seeking truth and transparency since 2001! Almost nine years later, in spite of the NIST Investigation and the 9/11 Independent Commission, a vast majority of our questions remain unanswered.” -- Patty Casazza, et. al. of the ‘Jersey Girls’ (and ae911truth petition signatories) whose early calls for an investigation forced the Bush Administration to create the 9/11 Commission [34]

62. “Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.” -- Mark Twain

63. “... I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic ...” -- U.S. Military Oath of Office

64. “If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be.” -- Thomas Jefferson

The following evidence is consistent with explosive demolition and inconsistent with aircraft and fire-caused WTC collapse: a. Witness/audio/video reports of explosions b. Thermite explosives in dust (peer-reviewed scientific paper) c. Unusual iron-rich spheres in dust (thermite fingerprint) d. Violent ejection and pulverization of concrete and steel e. Molten metal temps (themite: yes, jet fuel/office fires: no) f. Witness pre-knowledge of Building 7 collapse g. Building 7 freefall acceleration (support columns do nothing) h. Building 7 level descent (82 columns synchronous removal) i. Twin tower persistent acceleration (no floor collisions) j. Low twin tower crushing forces (upper mass blasted away) k. Symmetric collapses, asymmetric damage and fires The official govt. reports ignore/downplay all of this evidence.

Twelve steps to 9/11 Truth and Action: a. No attackng those questioning the govt.’s conspiracy theory b. No assuming news media and insiders expose all govt. lies c. No assuming ‘the experts’ will or should take care of you d. No assuming questioning your govt. is ‘un-American’ e. No assuming you don’t have time to make a difference f. Examining evidence that explosives were used on 9/11 g. Learning the govt. investigations were inadequate/coverups h. Learning it’s possible/certain that explosives were used i. Considering it important to expose the full 9/11 truth j. Demanding an investigation meeting professional standards k. Signing the petition at www.ae911truth.org l. Convincing friends, neighbors, coworkers to do the same

Getting through these steps is a process. Maintain an open mind, separate facts from assumptions, think logically, love your country and the rule of law. Make some progress every month so we can achieve critical mass while the Internet is still open. Above all, do act in a positive, peaceful manner. You can take great pride in helping to revive a comatose America and restoring ‘government by the people, for the people.’

65. “First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win” -- Mahatma Gandhi

[1] www.patriotsquestion911.com/

[2] “The Mysterious Collapse of World Trade Center 7: Why the Final Official Report about 9/11 is Unscientific and False,” David Ray Griffin, Olive Branch Press www.amazon.com/Mysterious...rade-Center/product-rev...

[3] “9/11: Blueprint for Truth: The Architecture of Destruction” video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4617650616903609314# link from: www.ae911truth.org/en/evidence.html

[4] “Vast Archive Yields New View of 9/11,” August 13, 2005, www.nytimes.com/2005/08/1...onspecial3/13records.html

[5] “Summary of Evidence of Controlled Demolition at the World Trade Center” firefightersfor911truth.o...oads/2009/04/revised2su...

[6] “118 Witnesses: The firefighters’ Testimony to Explosions in the Twin Towers,” Volume 3 – August 2006 www.journalof911studies.c...le_5_118Witnesses_World...

[7] “Answers to Frequently Asked Questions (August 30, 2006),” wtc.nist.gov/pubs/factsheets/faqs_8_2006.htm

[8] “Missing Bodies: More Than 1000 Bodies Are Unaccounted for,” 911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/bodies.html

[9] “Environmental Anomalies at the World Trade Center: Evidence for Energetic Materials,” The Environmentalist, Vol. 29, No. 1, March 2009 www.springerlink.com/content/f67q6272583h86n4/ link from: 911blogger.com/node/16945

[10] “$elling out the Investigation,” Jan. 1, 2002, archived in www.fireengineering.com/index.html (free registration)

[11] “Explosives Found in the World Trade Center Dust,” December 7, 2009 911research.wtc7.net/essa...e/explosive_residues.html

[12] “Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe,” The Open Chemical Physics Journal, 2009, 2, 7-31 www.bentham-open.org/page...PJ/2009/00000002/000000... link from: www.ae911truth.org/en/evi...s/73-technical-articles...

[13] “The Twin Towers Gallery of Evidence” www2.ae911truth.org/twintowers.php

[14] “Final Report of the National Construction Safety Team on the Collapses of the World Trade Center Towers (Draft) wtc.nist.gov/pubs/NISTNCSTAR1Draft.pdf

[15] “The Missing Jolt: A Simple Refutation of the NIST-Bazant Collapse Hypothesis,” Volume 24 – January 2009 www.journalof911studies.c.../2008/TheMissingJolt7.pdf

[16] “Destruction of the World Trade Center North Tower and Fundamental Physics,” Volume 28 – February 2010 www.journalof911studies.c...andlerDownwardAccelerat...

[17] “WTC7: NIST Finally Admits Freefall (Part III)” www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3mudruFzNw link from: www.ae911truth.org/en/evi...s/275-nist-admits-freef...

[18] "NIST Denies Access to WTC7 Data", July 12, 2010 911blogger.com/news/2010-...-access-wtc-collapse-data

[19] "The Elevator Industry Reflects on September 11, 2001", www.elevator-world.com/ma...chive01/0111-005.html-ssi

[20] “9/11 Security Courtesy of Marvin Bush” whatreallyhappened.com/WR...rity.html?q=911security...

[21] "September 11, 2001: Heightened Security Alert Had Just Been Lifted", September 11, 2001 www.newsday.com/news/sept...ghtened-security-alert-...

[22] “United in Courage,” People Magazine, September 12, 2001, whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/people.html

[23] "U.S. Military Wanted to Provoke War With Cuba," May 1, 2001 abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&page=1

[24] "Newly Declassified National Security Agency Documents Show Analysts Made 'SIGINT fit the claim' of North Vietnamese Attack," John Prados, December 1, 2005 www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSA...AEBB132/press20051201.htm

[25] "The War on Waste," January 29, 2002 www.cbsnews.com/stories/2...ningnews/main325985.shtml

[26] "The 9/11 Commission Rejects own Report as Based on Government Lies," September 11, 2009 www.salem-news.com/articl...009/911_truth_9-11-09.php

[27] “Increasing Threats To The 9/11 Truth Movement,” June 16, 2010 www.opednews.com/articles...ts-To-The-by-Bill-Wille...

[28] “The New Inquisition Against 9/11 Truth,” November 22, 2007 www.wiseupjournal.com/?p=19

[29] “An Attack from Harvard Law on the Escalating 9/11 TruthMovement,” February 4, 2010 www.opednews.com/articles...ARVARD-LAW-by-Bill-Will...

[30] “Bush Authorized Domestic Spying,” December 16, 2005 www.washingtonpost.com/wp...cle/2005/12/16/AR200512...

[31] “License to Kill? Intelligence Chief Says U.S. Can Take Out American Terrorists,” February 3, 2010 abcnews.go.com/Politics/l...ligence-chief-us-americ...

[32] “Senators Propose Granting President Emergency Internet Power,” June 10, 2010 news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-20007418-38.html

[33] “In Denial of Democracy: Social Psychological Implications for Public Discourse on State Crimes Against Democracy Post-9/11,” American Behavioral Scientist, 53(6), February 2010 abs.sagepub.com/content/53/6/848.abstract

[34] “The ‘Jersey Girls’ Support Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth” February 27, 1010 911blogger.com/node/22725

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#1. To: christine, farmfriend, CadetD, wudidiz, HighLairEon, TwentyTwelve, James Deffenbach, Jethro Tull, Horse, Lod, Kamala, Eric Stratton, HAPPY2BEME4UM, randge, X-15, scrapper2, AllTheKingsHorses, FormerLurker, Itistoolate, Esso, ratcat, Cynicom, abraxas, al (#0)

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Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-28   15:47:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Original_Intent (#0) (Edited)

Yet all "viable" candidates for office must pass the "9/11 was carried out by 19 angry arabs who hated us because we are free" litmus bullshit test.

In a truly free and honest society, the investigations would be going on right now, and arrests would be made within the government at the highest levels.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-09-28   15:53:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: FormerLurker (#3) (Edited)

The problem is that the Zionazis who control our government, and the Banksters, know that they are guilty of the crime - Israel was a key player (although not as some argue the ONLY player) and the Zionists are not going to allow their fiefdom to be held culpable. They were willing to sacrifice their own people to create Shittylittlestan and are not about to worry about the filthy goyim.

This is going to take continued pressure and not giving up to force this out. As defenders and promoters of the truth it is up to us not got to go all failed purpose because of the stone wall that has been erected.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-28   16:01:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Original_Intent (#0)

Bookmarked, thank you.


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wudidiz  posted on  2010-09-28   16:01:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: wudidiz (#5)

You are welcome.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-28   16:13:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Original_Intent (#1)

OI, would you please add my name to this ping list? TIA

Obnoxicated  posted on  2010-09-28   19:34:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Obnoxicated (#7)

Why coitanly. It would be my pleasure.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-28   20:12:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: FormerLurker (#3)

In a truly free and honest society, the investigations would be going on right now

The Truth Movement is an ongoing public investigation. There seems to be a shortage of Prosecutors for 9/11 Truth and Justice willing to do the job of filing charges against the suspects.

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GreyLmist  posted on  2010-09-28   20:21:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Original_Intent (#2)

Inside Job

thanks oi.... this helps,in that i need reassurance that the truth will come.....

paddlefeet  posted on  2010-09-28   20:55:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: paddlefeet (#10)

It will, the dam is approaching the bursting point. It'll be interesting watch and see just how much longer they can continue to reinforce the dead "Official Conspiracy Theory™". The only thing holding it together is the total media blackout and the stonewalling by the goobermunt.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-28   21:01:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Original_Intent (#11) (Edited)

total media blackout and the stonewalling by the goobermunt.

i've been in construction all my life,how can an engineer,in is right mind say building 7 was downed by a diesel fire...it is obvious he was paid.an absolute affront to all.makes me sick.

paddlefeet  posted on  2010-09-28   22:16:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: paddlefeet (#12)

For anyone who has even rudimentary engineering knowledge, such as moi, that bldg. 7 was a controlled demolition, and not a catastrophic engineering failure, is so obvious as to be unworthy of debating. The only way a building collapses in the manner observed is by controlled explosive demolition. Attempts to muddy the issue by throwing up preposterous explanations, such as an exploding diesel tank, that was under and extending out from a corner of the building, is so absurd as to merit only gales of laughter.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-28   22:23:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Original_Intent (#13)

bldg. 7 was a controlled demolition, and not a catastrophic engineering failure,

That's what sealed the deal for me. Seeing that building drop the way it did convinced me that the whole day was nothing more than jewish special effects. A lot of very large loose ends were tied up that day.

Obnoxicated  posted on  2010-09-28   23:07:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Obnoxicated (#14)

bldg. 7 was a controlled demolition, and not a catastrophic engineering failure,

That's what sealed the deal for me. Seeing that building drop the way it did convinced me that the whole day was nothing more than jewish special effects. A lot of very large loose ends were tied up that day.

While I am thoroughly convinced that 911 was a staged event - a PsyOp I would counsel being careful about using the term "Jew" as the sole originator of the 911 PsyOp. Certainly their were Israeli elements to the event. However, I think more accurately we should be careful to specify that it was elements of the Intelligence Apparatus of the Rothschild/Zionist STATE.

As well while there was Israeli involvement let there be no doubt that elements of American Military Industrial Complex were involved up to their filthy treasonous eyeballs. While I am, at this point, convinced that there were elements of the Israeli Mossad involved there were too many elements that came together to run this operation that could not have been pulled off without involvement of the highest levels of the American power structure including the Pentagon, White House, and CIA. While Israel no doubt benefited from 911 the motivation and impetus for the event runs above their level back into London and the upper reaches of the Anglo-American power elite. Israel is a Cat's Paw and the Israeli upper echelon does what their orders from London dictate.

911 appears to have multiple motivations. Attempting to lay it at the feet of any one subsequent motivation theorized as they were all part of the mix. However the primary point of the entire operation is the greater accumulation and exercise of POWER by the Anglo-American Power Elite.

Israelis were used, I believe, for a lot of the operation specifically because they have no ties of loyalty to the United States. Larry Silverstein was no doubt a Mossad Sayanim, and likely Israeli technicians were used to set up a lot of the demolition charges. Because they are loyal to Israel, and not the U.S., they could largely be counted on not to talk. Any that were suspect have by now no doubt been "eliminated" as a concern. However, the control of NORAD and the subsequent cover up and stonewall could only be done with the connivance of the American "Elite".

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-28   23:35:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: paddlefeet (#12)

in is right mind

I respect your opinion and i concur. I've worked a lot in construction also.

Once I spoke to a civil engineer about the hot pools of steel found in the wreckage. and the civil engineer was already aware of this. He told me that he watched a video about it on Discovery channel. and he said they had an expert on the video who said that the steel was melted by jet fuel, and that even 5 weeks after it was still red hot and liquid because of the jet fuel. I explained to him that jet fuel doesn't burn that hot. He told me the expert said different. and I explained to him that the jet fuel was like 70 stories up and the pools of hot steel were found at the very base. he didn't care. He was a Professional Engineer and he didn't care.

I've learned that even people who are supposed to be able to think and are knowledgeable sometimes buy into the september 11'th ideology to such an extent that they are not in their right minds.

it harms our nation very badly that we are told to believe lies and unable to overthrow these people who tell us this.

Psalms 137:1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-09-29   0:01:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Red Jones (#16)

He was a Professional Engineer and he didn't care.

Our on purpose pitiful educational system is why this so-called engineer doesn't know that jet fuel cannot under any circumstances melt steel. If it could then it wouldn't be used as jet fuel since it would melt the jet engines. Also, many call themselves "civil engineers", without any university degree at all, when all they really do is work for a city changing light bulbs and paving roads.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2010-09-29   0:09:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Original_Intent (#0)

There are plenty of people saying there was molten steel there. How many people that were there saying they saw it does it take before you believe the molten steel was there.? Here is a website with a list of statements from many knowledgeable people that were on the site who say they saw it.

stopthelie.com/references.html

Molten Steel:

Reference: 911review.com/articles/griffin/nyc1.html

Leslie Robertson, the Chief Structural Engineer for the Twin Towers, said: "As of 21 days after the attack, the fires were still burning and molten steel was still running"

(Williams, 2001). Knight-Ridder journalist Jennifer Lin, discussing Joe "Toolie" O'Toole, a Bronx firefighter who worked for many months on the rescue and clean-up efforts, wrote: "Underground fires raged for months. O'Toole remembers in February seeing a crane lift a steel beam vertically from deep within the catacombs of Ground Zero. 'It was dripping from the molten steel," he said'" (Lin, 2002).

Professor Allison Geyh (2001) of Johns Hopkins, who was part of a team of public health investigators who visited the site shortly after 9/11, wrote: "In some pockets now being uncovered they are finding molten steel". Dr. Keith Eaton, who somewhat later toured the site with an engineer, said that he was shown slides of "molten metal, which was still red hot weeks after the event"

-Peter Tully, president of Tully Construction, and Mark Loizeaux, president of Controlled Demolition, Incorporated both reported molten steel. Tully said that he saw pools of "literally molten steel" at the site. Loizeaux said that several weeks after 9/11, when the rubble was being removed, "hot spots of molten steel" were found "at the bottoms of the elevator shafts of the main towers, down seven [basement]levels" (both statements quoted in Bollyn, 2004).[33]

Greg Fuchek, vice president of sales for LinksPoint, Inc.-added that "sometimes when a worker would pull a steel beam from the wreckage, the end of the beam would be dripping molten steel" (Walsh, 2002).

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2010-09-29   0:15:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Original_Intent (#15)

Firefighter Louie Cacchioli, after entering the north tower lobby and seeing elevator doors completely blown out and people being hit with debris, asked himself, “how could this be happening so quickly if a plane hit way above?” After he reached the 24th floor, he and another fireman “heard this huge explosion that sounded like a bomb [and] knocked off the lights and stalled the elevator.” After they pried themselves out of the elevator, “another huge explosion like the first one hits. This one hits about two minutes later . . . [and] I’m thinking, ‘Oh. My God, these bastards put bombs in here like they did in 1993!’”12

Multiple explosions were also reported by Teresa Veliz, who worked for a software development company in the north tower. She was on the 47th floor, she reported, when suddenly “the whole building shook. . . . [Shortly thereafter] the building shook again, this time even more violently." Then, while Veliz was making her way downstairs and outside: “There were explosions going off everywhere. I was convinced that there were bombs planted all over the place and someone was sitting at a control panel pushing detonator buttons. . . . There was another explosion. And another. I didn't know where to run."13

Steve Evans, a New York-based correspondent for the BBC, said: “I was at the base of the second tower . . . that was hit. . . . There was an explosion. . . . The base of the building shook. . . . [T]hen there was a series of explosions.”14

Sue Keane, an officer in the New Jersey Fire Police Department who was previously a sergeant in the U.S. Army, said in her account of the onset of the collapse of the south tower: “[I]t sounded like bombs going off. That's when the explosions happened. . . . I knew something was going to happen. . . . It started to get dark, then all of a sudden there was this massive explosion.” Then, discussing her experiences during the collapse of the north tower, she said: “[There was] another explosion. That sent me and the two firefighters down the stairs. . . . I can't tell you how many times I got banged around. Each one of those explosions picked me up and threw me. . . . There was another explosion, and I got thrown with two firefighters out onto the street.”15

Wall Street Journal reporter John Bussey, describing his observation of the collapse of the south tower from the ninth floor of the WSJ office building, said: “I . . . looked up out of the office window to see what seemed like perfectly synchronized explosions coming from each floor. . . . One after the other, from top to bottom, with a fraction of a second between, the floors blew to pieces.”16

Another Wall Street Journal reporter said that after seeing what appeared to be “individual floors, one after the other exploding outward,” he thought: “‘My God, they’re going to bring the building down.’ And they, whoever they are, HAD SET CHARGES. . . . I saw the explosions.”17

A similar perception was reported by Beth Fertig of WNYC Radio, who said: “It just descended like a timed explosion—like when they are deliberately bringing a building down. . . . It was coming down so perfectly that in one part of my brain I was thinking, 'They got everyone out, and they're bringing the building down because they have to.'”18

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2010-09-29   0:18:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Original_Intent (#0)

www.911lies.org/fire_fighters_911_wtc_tapes.html

FIREFIGHTERS VS 911 COMMISSION

Firefighters were murdered on 911. Their stories stuffed away, denounced.

They heard bombs, they know it was a demolition, they know 'heat from fire' did not melt or degrade the steel columns.

These reports prove there was not sufficient fire or heat to make the towers collapse with symmetrical precision.

"My story was never mentioned in the final report and I felt like I was being put on trial in a court room. They were trying to twist my words and make the story fit only what they wanted to hear" [PDF download] -Firefighter Louie Cacchioli

"When I looked in the direction of the Trade Center before it came down, before No. 2 came down, ... I saw low-level flashes ... I saw a flash flash flash and then it looked like the building came down ... You know like when they demolish a building, how when they blow up a building, when it falls down? That's what I thought I saw." - NYFD Assistant Fire Commissioner Stephen Gregory

“It was like a professional demolition where they set the charges on certain floors and then you hear 'Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop'." - NYC Paramedic Daniel Rivera

"It was as if as if they had detonated ... as if they had planned to take down a building, boom-boom-boom-boom-boom-boom-boom-boom " - NYFD Captain Dennis Tardio

"I was taking firefighters up in the elevator to the 24th floor to get in position to evacuate workers. On the last trip up a bomb went off. We think there were bombs set in the building." - NYFD Firefighter Louie Cacchioli

“There was just an explosion in the south tower. It seemed like on television when they blow up these buildings. It seemed like it was going all the way around like a belt, all these explosions.” - NYFD Firefighter Richard Banaciski

"It almost sounded like bombs going off, like boom, boom, boom, like seven or eight" - NYFD Firefighter Thomas Turilli

"Heard explosions coming from . . . the south tower . . . There were about ten explosions. . . . We then realized the building started to come down" - NYFD Firefighter Craig Carlson

"It actually gave at a lower floor, not the floor where the plane hit. . . . We originally had thought there was like an internal detonation, explosives, because it went in succession, boom, boom, boom, boom, and then the tower came down" - NYFD Firefighter Edward Cachia

"Somewhere around the middle . . . there was this orange and red flash coming out. Initially it was just one flash. Then this flash just kept popping all the way around the building and that building had started to explode ... With each popping sound it was initially an orange and then a red flash came out of the building and then it would just go all around the building on both sides as far as I could see. These popping sounds and the explosions were getting bigger, going both up and down and then all around the building" - NYFD Captain Karin Deshore

"A debate began to rage because . . . many people had felt that possibly explosives had taken out 2 World Trade" - NYFD Firefighter Christopher Feny

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2010-09-29   0:20:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: paddlefeet (#12)

it is obvious he was paid.an absolute affront to all.makes me sick.

it makes me feel utter contempt for people like this...

christine  posted on  2010-09-29   1:15:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Original_Intent (#1)

thanks. i've bookmarked it.

christine  posted on  2010-09-29   1:18:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Original_Intent (#4)

it is up to us not to go all failed purpose

funny you mention that. on 9/11 we spent the day swimming at the beach. beautiful day. another very committed activist woman i spoke with a few days later, coincidentally spent the day the same way. many people i know have dropped out of it. not for giving up, its just a process. very interesting though

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2010-09-29   2:02:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: christine (#22)

Glad to be of service.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-29   2:15:06 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Red Jones, paddlefeet (#16)

I've learned that even people who are supposed to be able to think and are knowledgeable sometimes buy into the september 11'th ideology to such an extent that they are not in their right minds.

This engineer is someone who appears trapped in the media paradigm. "If the media says it then it must be true." Someone like that cannot be reached until you can get them to the point where they can acknowledge that the media lies as he is thoroughly "programmed". Of course he would be highly offended if you told him he had been programmed by the media "of course I think for myself". "Harummmphh!!!" That is why short quotes, such as those in this article, are handy. One way to get to him is to find something he knows and upon which the media has published a contradictory lie. However, some people are simply not worth wasting time on as they are so thoroughly programed and so unwilling to confront, look, and actually see that they are invincible to facts which contradict the body of lies they consider true. The only way to break through is to find something real to them that they are able to confront. You might have to take it on an off handed manner and say perhaps something like "well that's interesting but NIST admitted that all of the jet fuel burned up in the first ten minutes," and then prove it to him by having the correct passage and page number handy.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-29   2:31:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: TwentyTwelve (#18)

Stephen Jones claimed there was molten metal pouring out of a building from the upper-floor window(s)...well, just because he says that's what it was, is why we're supposed to believe it was molten metal and not something else for the purpose of special FX. I don't even remember hearing about molten metal flows after Hiroshima and Nagasaki were nuked so how could that happen at the WTC for weeks/months? There weren't any reports of molten metal that I know of when they were excavating to recover gold from the ruins. Nanothermite doesn't seem to explain that phenomenon, especially since the alleged dust samples used to come up with that Jonesian theory are of dubious origins.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2010-09-29   2:32:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: All, Bumping this oldie to the Top (#26)

bump it

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