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Title: Army's largest base reeling from four apparent suicides in one weekend
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URL Source: http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/09/29/texas.fort.hood.deaths/index.html
Published: Sep 29, 2010
Author: CNN
Post Date: 2010-09-29 23:58:58 by christine
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Views: 653
Comments: 53

Four soldiers from Fort Hood, Texas died over the week. In all four cases, it appears the soldiers, all decorated veterans from the wars in Iraq or Afghanistan, took their own lives, according to Christopher Haug, a Fort Hood spokesman.

If confirmed as suicides, it would be on top of 14 other suicides on the base this year. Base officials called a news conference for Wednesday afternoon to discuss the problem of suicides at the huge base in central Texas.

"Every one of these is tragic," said Maj. Gen. William Grimsley, the post commander. "It's personally and professionally frustrating as a leader."

Grimsley did not announce any major action or response during the news conference. "I don't think there is a simple answer," he said.

The recent spate of incidents, began Friday Sept. 24 when the body of Pvt. Antonio E. Heath, 24, of Warren, New York, was found in Temple, Texas, the victim of a gunshot wound. Heath was deployed to Iraq for most of 2009 and earned a number of medals including the Army Commendation Medal.

The next day, Master Sgt. Baldemar Gonzales, 39, of Victoria, Texas was found dead in his residence on Fort Hood. During his service he had fought in Operation Desert Storm and Operation Iraqi Freedom. During that time he earned a Bronze Star, a Meritorious Service Medal with one oak leaf cluster, an Army Commendation Medal with four oak leaf clusters as well as numerous other decorations.

That same day the body of Sgt. Timothy Ryan Rinella, 29, of Chester, Virginia, was found in his home in Copperas Cove, just outside of Fort Hood. He had an "apparent gunshot wound," according to information released by Fort Hood.

Rinella served three tours of duty in Iraq and one tour in Afghanistan.

And then on Sunday, Sgt. Michael F. Franklin and his wife, Jessie, were found dead of apparent gunshot wounds in their home on the post. The case is being investigated as a murder-suicide. They were the parents of a 6-year-old daughter and 2-year-old son. Franklin served two tours of duty in Iraq in just the past four years, earning an Army Commendation Medal with two oak leaf clusters and several other decorations.

The entire U.S, military has been focused for years on trying to stop or reduce suicides among service members. At times some have speculated that troops wouldn't seek help for emotional or mental problems because it would stigmatize them in the eyes of their comrades in arms and their commanders.

But that didn't always appear to be the case at Fort Hood this past weekend.

"Early indications are, in at least two of the cases, and I can't speak definitively about the others, a couple had been in counseling for certain things," Grimsley said.

He said the pace of Army operations, caused in large part by fighting two wars simultaneously over many years, may be one "stresser" leading to more suicides.

"We are certainly a busier force as we've ever been in my career, you put those and the other stressors of life, with finances and relationships and everything else, it's a tough life. It is a tough life," he said.

It's yet more violence for Fort Hood, which was the site of the worst shooting on an American military base in decades. On November 5 of last year, a gunman opened fire in a building on the post, killing 12 people and injuring dozens of others. Maj. Nidal Hasan, an Army psychiatrist was shot and paralyzed by police who responded to the incident and is facing murder charges in the case.

Grimsley doesn't see a link between the the suicides and the shooting last year. "I don't draw a correlation, it's clearly in our respective psyches and will be for life. But so are all of the other things that have gone on here."

The first testimony in Hasan's pre-trial hearing is set to start in two weeks.


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#12. To: christine (#0)

my God, what is going on!

Remember since this endless war began, all of the bad things that the military has done, has been exposed by this very same segment of the military. The whistle has not been been blown by the truly professional men.

It is and has been the lower class men of society that are trained and urged to kill, that have said enough. They blow whistles at their own hazard, or they can no longer take the pressure and commit suicide.

The combination of legal and illegal drugs, plus the mind bending administered by the military is proving too much for too many.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-09-30   3:53:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Cynicom (#12)

the mind bending administered by the military

thats it. plus the fact that they likely feel that our society at large through our leading institutions including government & mass media have urged them into the military, built their incentives to make it seem like a good idea and sent them to war. where they are 'the dogs of war'. and it is highly stressful when it goes on year after year, multiple deployments for no real good cause.

Our society does not support these soldiers. Our society demands and orchestrates that thy go kill and be killed. this is not supportive of them. this is destructive to them.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-09-30   8:46:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Red Jones (#18)

Our society does not support these soldiers.

Sec. Gates this week said that something has to be done to halt the excess money being paid soldiers.

To me that smells like a draft. It will come and then watch the anti war people come out of their burrows.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-09-30   8:58:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Cynicom (#21)

To me that smells like a draft. It will come and then watch the anti war people come out of their burrows.

It will at least start as communitarian universal service with the military as an option, probably with greater benefits. Just like now with Americorps or Peace Corps, some benefits but not as great as for military service.

Then they'll limit the number of non-military slots available and the civilian slots will somehow magically be limited to the offspring of the political elite, leaving the poor and middle-class to fill the military ranks in the empire's armies, dying for nation building and other profoundly un-American ideas.

I think the country might easily become ungovernable.

Involuntary servitude is not liberty. And nothing in the Constitution authorizes anything close to the draft or universal service outside of national emergency, like a congressionally declared war with universal military conscription or an outbreak of armed civil conflict.

Strangely enough, I seem to recall your remarks of seeing draftees hauled away in chains. Do you want to see it again?

TooConservative  posted on  2010-09-30   10:21:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: TooConservative (#27)

Strangely enough, I seem to recall your remarks of seeing draftees hauled away in chains. Do you want to see it again?

I wont be around to see it. Perhaps you will.

It is a sight that one never forgets. I recall seeing it at least twice. There was one thing in common both times, utter silence, just the chains dragging the concrete.

No one watching had anything to say, then nor later, but it never left our minds.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-09-30   10:29:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Cynicom (#28)

There was one thing in common both times, utter silence, just the chains dragging the concrete.

No one watching had anything to say, then nor later, but it never left our minds.

This is why I object when people try to paint the entire German people as Hitler's accomplices.

I imagine they were silent too in the face of naked totalitarianism, of a state that used a Stumg und Drang policy against any dissenters or targeted minorities. It was simply too late to object to anything. They had made their deal with the devil.

TooConservative  posted on  2010-09-30   10:47:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: TooConservative (#31)

Anti-war protestors were guillotined for activities like anonymously distributing leaflets or using the mails to send out anti-government broadsides.

Some of the people that did these things were veterans. These people had real guts. They went to their deaths with their heads held high.

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