Note the "hiccup" in the film footage at about the 11:45 mark, the time of the hit of the second tower. Otherwise a very interesting perspective that I'd not seen.
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Note the "hiccup" in the film footage at about the 11:45 mark, the time of the hit of the second tower. Otherwise a very interesting perspective that I'd not seen.
The part where we would have seen the alleged plane flying towards the tower has been conveniently edited out.
If that was supposed to be a link, could you please repost it so that it's activated? I'd be very interested in your 9/11 audio and video analytical findings.
Thanks. Would that lie-detection research be ethical as evidence, though, or at least ok for informal discussion purposes? I'm asking because Jeff Hill's alleged pumpitout.com phone interviews were eventually compared to illegal wiretapping. It didn't occur to me that was what he was doing and I haven't seen any court complaints filed from those he supposedly contacted for spontaneous questioning regarding 9/11 so that was probably all a staged-op. I'm not a lawyer and don't know what the protocols might be for voice analysis of criminal suspects who haven't been charged as yet for prosecution but might be at some point. Rense has posted some reverse-speech analysis articles of public figures and that's not been legally problematic.
Thanks. Would that lie-detection research be ethical as evidence, though, or at least ok for informal discussion purposes?
There is no such thing as a lie detector. Even if it accurately detects elevated stress what you have is an elevated stress detector which can be caused by several things.
The polygraph as we know it is a "mechanical Charlie McCarthy" and the govt in general and the FBI in particular cling to the unscientific technology for one simple reason; they can use it to eliminate pain in the ass applicants and those they just don't like. People like Richard Nixon were refused (By Hoover himself) because Nixon had that Five O'Clock Shadow by 10AM, and Hoover preferred a certain non-swarthy type as agents. (fair haired Mormons for instance)
Also, whenever buttheads show up who claim that they've never told a lie or stolen anything in their lives they are automatically dumped. The FBI wants "team players" not fanatics who actually believe in moral absolutes. Those types are likely to turn whistleblower when they see how the FBI lab, agents, lawyers etc.,. actually handle evidence, or how they destroy enemies like Martin Luther King.
If you read some of the letters to the govt by people who were devastated because they supposedly failed a polygraph exam it's easy to see why some were weeded out. Some actually believed that if they did everything right (as they did in elementary school) then they can stand up to the govt starting with the examiner who failed them. No govt agency wants that type of moralistic, anal retentive asshole trying to change things from the inside, any more than the shadow govt wants an honest American with no dirty laundry as president.
The dirty little secret of polygraph is the control question, and those anal types can't be tricked into playing the control question game so an examiner doesn't have "an intentionally manipulated untruthful response" for comparison to other (presumably truthful) responses and that irritates examiners. Not because the applicant told the truth but because he/she wouldn't allow the examiner to feel clever for having manipulated them. So, they fail people who really do believe they have nothing to hide or who won't lie even if it's obvious that it's expected of them.
For example, the examiner may say, "Before we begin you need to know that the FBI will not hire anyone who ever consumed alcohol as a minor", knowing that nearly everyone has, forcing most people to lie and to show stress that can be measured against honest replies. It's easy to see why goody two shoes and teachers' pets upset the whole process and why they are dumped.
In short, honesty is no defense against a malicious, egotistical, drunk-with-power-polygraph-examiner-hatchetman, and those applicants who insist they are right and the FBI is wrong may never understand; that is the very reason they failed the exam. They go through life devastated by govt's rejection and praying for vindication (the restoration of their halos) that will never come.
Why?
Because they're assholes who believe in absolute truth and they have no place in the US govt.
It takes longer to complete barber school than polygraph training, and polygraph is based on voodoo science and people's ignorance, not a provable method for lie detection.
All of the nuclear spies who worked for govt (and the screwups at Livermore labs) passed their polygraphs which is positive proof that it's a scam.
If you read this you need never fear polygraph, and if you want to disqualify yourself from testing all you have to do is let on that you know the "dirty little secret" about the "control question".
The examiner will be enraged like a crook roulette dealer whose secret stop pedal was exposed and you will automatically disqualify yourself as "govt material", but the more people learn the truth the sooner the govt will stop ruining people for reasons that have nothing to do with the test.