Note the "hiccup" in the film footage at about the 11:45 mark, the time of the hit of the second tower. Otherwise a very interesting perspective that I'd not seen.
#1. To: Eric Stratton, titorite, GreyLmist, randge, *9-11* (#0)(Edited)
Note the "hiccup" in the film footage at about the 11:45 mark, the time of the hit of the second tower. Otherwise a very interesting perspective that I'd not seen.
The part where we would have seen the alleged plane flying towards the tower has been conveniently edited out.
If that was supposed to be a link, could you please repost it so that it's activated? I'd be very interested in your 9/11 audio and video analytical findings.
Thanks. Would that lie-detection research be ethical as evidence, though, or at least ok for informal discussion purposes? I'm asking because Jeff Hill's alleged pumpitout.com phone interviews were eventually compared to illegal wiretapping. It didn't occur to me that was what he was doing and I haven't seen any court complaints filed from those he supposedly contacted for spontaneous questioning regarding 9/11 so that was probably all a staged-op. I'm not a lawyer and don't know what the protocols might be for voice analysis of criminal suspects who haven't been charged as yet for prosecution but might be at some point. Rense has posted some reverse-speech analysis articles of public figures and that's not been legally problematic.
The "Oh my God! It was a military plane!" would certainly be more convincing if they hadn't conveniently cut out the part where it would have been seen flying towards the tower.
How would she have recognized it as a military plane?
This whole 9/11 thing just gets weirder and weirder.
does it really matter if planes hit or not? given the fact that the 'no planes' position would sound even weirder & more incredible to the average person who needs to learn that it was an inside job, i think they need to be schooled on false flags etc & tyranny, & liberty, more than delving into a river that leads nowhere.
It should matter to everyone concerned about 9/11 Truth and Justice.
given the fact that the 'no planes' position would sound even weirder & more incredible to the average person who needs to learn that it was an inside job, i think they need to be schooled on false flags etc & tyranny, & liberty, more than delving into a river that leads nowhere.
That sounds rather condescending, Artisan, like: "They can't handle the Truth!" It is the weirdly incredible Fantastic Four Planes props that have been muddying the waters all these years regarding 9/11 as an inside job false flag op. The No Planes position removes all doubt about it so that it should be easier for people see that it was an inside job false flag op. They can learn about that, tyranny, and liberty faster and better when not spellbound by the 9/11 Illusionists. Far from leading nowhere, the No Planes path leads where many fear to tread: the Black Market of dual use plane parts, which Boeing has been involved in over 100 times. It leads directly to other mafiosos in the media and elsewhere. Other than that, it's basically mundane criminal investigations of insurance and 9/11 Fund scamming, that sort of thing in order to charge the perps in those phases of the attacks as well so that they don't escape undetected. What's the real motive for "planers" who insist like criminal accomplices that no one should look at any of that seriously? Overthrow of the Constitution and more war, probably, in addition to aiding and abetting the escape of suspects and their accessories by obstructing Justice.
for you to attribute a desire for war & tyranny to truthers who don't hold the no plane position is unfair & innacurate. i look at things in the public influence realm always keeping in mind the basic sad reality: people ARE dumb, gullible, & too busy scraping by to give a shit less about 9/11 any more than they'd consider jfk murder as relevant to their daily lives. if i can even foment a shred of interest in this issue with the average person i consider it a great triumph. i don't believe the perps of 911 will be punished on earth, unfortunately. my goal on 911 is to educate individuals so that they can have what's called a properly informed conscience. they thus will not support the myriad of evils promoted under the guise of 9/11/01. i have no problem with you promoting your version of events, which is a deeper level of a specific topic: how the criminals actually pulled it off.
for you to attribute a desire for war & tyranny to truthers who don't hold the no plane position is unfair & innacurate.
I don't attribute motives to overthrow the Constitution and for more war to genuine truthers. I attribute those motives to those I suspect are plants to "drive the getaway cars", so to speak, for the perps and themselves by insisting like criminal accomplices that no one should look at the No Planes research seriously.
i look at things in the public influence realm always keeping in mind the basic sad reality: people ARE dumb, gullible, & too busy scraping by to give a shit less about 9/11 any more than they'd consider jfk murder as relevant to their daily lives. if i can even foment a shred of interest in this issue with the average person i consider it a great triumph.
Good luck to you. Try to keep in mind, though, that many may have loved ones involved in the resultant wars and it's an especially difficult task for them to see 9/11 as an inside job and their loved ones endangered because of that.
i don't believe the perps of 911 will be punished on earth, unfortunately. my goal on 911 is to educate individuals so that they can have what's called a properly informed conscience. they thus will not support the myriad of evils promoted under the guise of 9/11/01. i have no problem with you promoting your version of events, which is a deeper level of a specific topic: how the criminals actually pulled it off.
Thanks for saying so. God Bless you and your efforts.
thanks. when i have time, ill watch some of the no planer videos. it is interesting & i wouldn't put anything past anyone. plus, if wud believes it, it can't be all bad. :-)
when i have time, ill watch some of the no planer videos. it is interesting & i wouldn't put anything past anyone. plus, if wud believes it, it can't be all bad. :-)
Very insightful. :) Here's a video called "Holmgren Typewriter":
This is a video of a No Planes pioneer, Gerard Holmgren, who was also quite a good guitarist: