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Title: "Everyone Just Wants to Kill People at Any Cost"
Source: Salon.com
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Published: Oct 4, 2010
Author: Mark Benjamin
Post Date: 2010-10-04 14:27:42 by ghostdogtxn
Keywords: None
Views: 148
Comments: 7

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#1. To: ghostdogtxn (#0)

what a tragic story.

Psalms 137:1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-10-04   14:37:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

"The Army has the blood on their hands on those two [later] murders. They want to sweep it under the carpet and make it disappear," he claimed. "I'm not going to let them do that."

The "army" may have hinted to his platoon that it was time for a fragging had he tried to report a murder in a timely manner. After all one dead sgt is a small price to pay to avoid the pressure on some Pentagon hack PR stooge fielding embarrassing questions from a frenzied press corps.

This is what happens when entire generations of kids grow up on video games that convey no moral message, but are based only on the highest body counts. Of course those video games also reflect the values of those who manufacture them and the wars they condition our youth to fight.

The unspoken truth is that anyone labeled as "less than American", particularly any nation and people whose languages we do not speak (and religion is targeted for destruction by the evil ones who rule over us) are fair game for target practice, as are their stray dogs and even puppies which can be tossed from bridges when there's nothing else to kill.

We've allowed our nation to be corrupted into the most obnoxious and immoral world power, and we'd better pray that we don't get what we deserve because no one will hear our cries, either.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2010-10-04   14:47:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

By the time the Gunverment is through with these "soldiers", they are hollow men, dead on the inside, souless shells of the remnants of a man.

Hoorah !!

Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2010-10-04   15:04:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

We've allowed our nation to be corrupted into the most obnoxious and immoral world power, and we'd better pray that we don't get what we deserve

It was corrupted long before we arrived, and frankly we were given few if any choices to address or correct the key problems that existed prior to our arrival.

I am not even convinced it is anyones 'fault', but more a cyclical nature of the seasons of a species, in our case Man. Historically, this 'Empire' is most definitely in decline, the peak of 'folly' can be seen everywhere. Destruction, is impending, but re-birth and new growth are ahead also. The truly deserved hopefully will get their just deserts, some innocents will suffer, but many will begin again. It is the cycle of life. Peace.

Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2010-10-04   15:14:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Monday, 4 October 2010
US Military Atrocities In Afghanistan - More Revelations By Naomi Spencer
4 October 2010

The deaths of at least seven civilians in Afghanistan and Iraq have been attributed to members of an Army platoon presently facing military pre-trial hearings for murder, mutilating corpses, assault, and other crimes. Staff Sergeant Calvin Gibbs, who is accused by fellow soldiers of being the mastermind behind the formation of the “kill team,” is also under investigation for similar murders in Iraq , military documents obtained by the Washington Post reveal. Army documents also indicate that at least one other unarmed Afghan civilian was shot dead during the group’s killing spree. Gibbs, 25, the highest ranking among those charged, and four other soldiers were arrested in June for the killing of three civilians in Kandahar . All deny the charges. Seven other soldiers are being held for related offenses, including collecting body parts from victims, covering up the crimes, and assaulting a fellow soldier who reported rampant drug abuse in the platoon.

The 12, who together face 76 charges, are members of the 2nd Stryker Brigade (formerly named 5th Stryker Brigade) of the 2nd Infantry Division out of the Tacoma, Washington, Joint Base Lewis-McChord. All are currently being held at the base, where the military pretrial, or Article 32 hearing, is being conducted to determine formal charges. The group is charged with participated in the killing of randomly targeted, unarmed men by shooting and hurling grenades, then mutilating and dismembering the bodies. One soldier is charged with stabbing a corpse. Soldiers posed with photographs of the corpses and severed off fingers, and cut out leg bones, skulls, and teeth as souvenirs of the atrocities. According to a fellow soldier, Gibbs had been collecting finger bones to make a necklace.

The first hearing considered the role of 22-year-old Specialist Jeremy Morlock on Monday. Along with 19-year-old Pfc. Andrew Holmes, Morlock is charged with participating in the January 15 killing of Gul Mudin “by means of throwing a fragmentary grenade at him and shooting him with a rifle,” under the direction of Gibbs. Gibbs and 29-year-old Spc. Michael Wagnon are charged with shooting dead Marach Agha on February 22. After the murder, the group planted a Kalashnikov next to the body to make it look as though the victim were an insurgent who presented a threat. Gibbs and Spc. Adam Winfield are charged with killing Mullah Adahdad on May 2 by shooting and attacking the cleric with a grenade. Gibbs is charged with collecting Russian-made “drop weapons” to place at the scenes of the murders in order to justify the attacks as self-defense. The documents obtained by the Washington Post describe the killing of a fourth civilian on January 28. Two fellow soldiers told agents of the Army Criminal Investigations Command that the group came upon an unarmed man who was sitting along Highway 1 in Kandahar . Gibbs and another soldier fired on him, then others opened fire, killing him. Afterward, the group planted an AK-47 magazine next to the body “to give the appearance the Afghan was an insurgent.” Investigators noted that Gibbs had a tattoo on his left calf consisting of a pair of crossed pistols surrounded by six skulls that he indicated was “his way of keeping count of the kills he had.” Three skulls, colored in red, represented Iraq deaths, he told investigators, and the three others, in blue, were Afghanistan deaths.

On his third deployment, Gibbs joined the platoon in November 2009 as a replacement for a wounded sergeant. Soldiers told investigators that he soon began intimating that he had killed innocent civilians for fun in Iraq , and that it was “easy.” In one instance in Kirkuk in 2004, Gibbs and other soldiers opened fire on an Iraqi family as they drove by in a car, killing a mother, father, and child. Another child was wounded. The brigade was deployed to southern Afghanistan in June 2009 as part of the Obama administration’s troop buildup along the explosive Pakistan border.

Evidence suggests the Army was notified of the January 15 murder by Spc. Winfield, who was present on the patrol at the time of the killing. Winfield, who is charged in the May 2 killing, contacted his parents online February 14 and told them to notify Base Lewis-McChord officers. He wrote, “Pretty much the whole platoon knows about it. It’s okay with all of them pretty much. Except me…. I want to do something about it [but] the only problem is I don’t feel safe here telling anyone.”

Winfield explained that officers were indifferent to the killing, writing, “I talked to someone and they told me this stuff happens all the time and that when we get back there is always someone that spills the beans so it normally works its way out.” Winfield’s father, expressing shock, asked, “No one else thought it was wrong?” Winfield replied, “No, everyone just wants to kill people at any cost, they don’t care, the Army is full of a bunch of scumbags, I realized.” He said he relinquished his duties as team leader in the platoon. “I stepped down, I cannot be a leader in a platoon that allows this to happen.”

Winfield wrote, “There are no more good men left here…. I started to think whether I should quit and just give up because it’s stupid to get smoked in Afghanistan . The Army really let me down when I thought I would come out here to do good, maybe make some change in this country…. I find out that it’s all a lie.”

Winfield’s parents made multiple phone calls to Army offices, four to Base Lewis-McChord on February 14, and also contacted Florida Senator Bill Nelson asking for an investigation. The Army claims they have no record of the calls.
Posted by TONY on 4.10.10

I would like to direct this to the distinguished members of the panel: You lousy cork-soakers. You have violated my farging rights. Dis somanumbatching country was founded so that the liberties of common patriotic citizens like me could not be taken away by a bunch of fargin iceholes... like yourselves. Thank you. - Roman Moroni

randge  posted on  2010-10-04   15:52:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Ah, a Johnny Dangerously reference. Roman had a foul mouth on him, didn't he? Here's a good one from Team America World Police that's kind of appropriate for this article.

We're dicks! We're reckless, arrogant, stupid dicks. And the Film Actors Guild are pussies. And Kim Jong Il is an asshole. Pussies don't like dicks, because pussies get fucked by dicks. But dicks also fuck assholes: assholes that just want to shit on everything. Pussies may think they can deal with assholes their way. But the only thing that can fuck an asshole is a dick, with some balls. The problem with dicks is: they fuck too much or fuck when it isn't appropriate - and it takes a pussy to show them that. But sometimes, pussies can be so full of shit that they become assholes themselves... because pussies are an inch and half away from ass holes. I don't know much about this crazy, crazy world, but I do know this: If you don't let us fuck this asshole, we're going to have our dicks and pussies all covered in shit!

Obnoxicated  posted on  2010-10-04   16:28:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

So what's the problem? These soldiers were good, Jesus-loving evangelical Christians doing God's work, ain't that right Stone! Rev. Stone, you should write a letter to the editor and to the United States Army and convert them like you did me! They need to be made to understand that it's God's will that all Muslims die. Implore them to let these soldiers of God go forth and continue their works of faith. I know you have it in you Brother Stone. Praise Jesus and pass the ammo!

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

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F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-10-05   0:06:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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