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Title: The 7 Most Dangerous Lies Your Doctor's Telling You (Audio--good information)
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URL Source: https://info.hsibaltimore.com/HSI/E ... =46787184&l=161142&g=84&r=Milo
Published: Oct 5, 2010
Author: Jenny Thompson, Director of the Health S
Post Date: 2010-10-05 14:54:40 by christine
Keywords: None
Views: 1037
Comments: 48

Dear Reader,

When Jenny Thompson, Director of the Health Sciences Institute, previewed this special presentation for a small group, you could have heard a pin drop on velvet.

Her presentation that day... exposing mainstream medicine's most deadly mistake... was intended only as a private screening.

But when I heard it, I asked Jenny if it was safe to share the news with my Daily Dose readers.

She agreed immediately. "It's too urgent to keep under wraps," she said.

But this kind of information is a powder keg. And while it's hosted right now on HSI's servers, I'm not sure how long it will be there.

So, for now, Jenny's special presentation is available right here. I encourage you, if you or a loved one is treated by ANY mainstream doctor, to watch it immediately.

--Matthew Simons

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#8. To: christine (#4)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-10-05   17:23:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: christine (#4)

Yes. This sounds more than intriguing. I hope there is substance to the promise. I wouldn't be surprised if there were truth in the claims.

Brian D  posted on  2010-10-05   17:28:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: christine (#6)

I looked at it, but havn't had enough time to listen, will reply when I get a chance.

Thanks for the heads up ! :)

Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2010-10-05   17:31:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: christine (#7)

The New Medical Monopoly -- Allopathy By Rockefeller
May 20, 2008 ... Flexner was John D. Rockefeller's "stool pigeon" in setting up the takeover of the entire medical school industry by Carnegie Foundation, ... www.chelationtherapyonline.com/anatomy/p84.htm

Itistoolate  posted on  2010-10-05   17:43:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Brian D, christine, All (#9)

Yes. This sounds more than intriguing. I hope there is substance to the promise. I wouldn't be surprised if there were truth in the claims.

I may be able to let everyone know first hand how much of this will help me. I have diabetes(2 injections daily) high blood pressure, very weak kindeys due to a disastrous fall in my bathtub 4 years ago that resulted in 6 fractured ribs, internal bleeding requiring 4 pints of blood, lacerated left kidney, congestive heart failure, diabetic retinopathy and maculsr endema, plus cataracts in both eyes. I guess I really am a ticking time bomb. I take 6 prescriptiom drugd in the morning and repeat 3 of them in the evening. I have had 20 laser eye surgeries(12 on the left eye and 8 on my right eye)to stop internal bleeding in my eyes.

I just ordered a membership about 10 minutes ago whic costs$37, a 50% reduction over a 1 year subscription. I just got a letter from my insurance company telling me one of my drugs requires a blood test once a year and I haven't had one so far this year. I have been on this drug for 5 years and my wonderfulpill pushing family doctor has never mentioned a need for a blood test when on this drug. When I go to him in a few weeks, I plan on reaming his ass for this ignorance or oversight.

I have enough wrong with me and if the $37 I spent for a membership helps alleviate or cures any of my maladies, I will be estatic. My monthly co-pays for all the poison I ingest runs well into the hundreds of dollars monthly and they only treat the symptoms rather than curing any thing. I'll keep all informed.

Lacumo

LACUMO  posted on  2010-10-05   18:38:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: LACUMO (#12)

Thank you and I hope you are indeed served well by this info.

Brian D  posted on  2010-10-05   18:46:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: christine (#7)

Not that the natural health field does not have its own snake oil salesmen,

true..and i've fallen for lots of them...or maybe better put. i can't think of many i've tried that i could say, yeah, that really worked. although most of the stuff i take is preventative and since i'm healthy with no maladies, i don't notice feeling better or more energetic, etc due to supplements i've taken.

Assuming you are good health to begin with I can't say that I am entirely surprised. Magic potions are generally the stuff of fiction and marketing hype (which is a genre unto itself). However, most natural products, regardless of the absence of any dramatic change, do not have adverse toxic side effects that must be inscribed at great length, using weasel wording, on a package insert that damn near requires an electron microscope to read. So, even on those natural products that are genuinely based on natural ingredients you don't have to worry about getting sick(er) from the "treatment".

I think one of the key points in natural health is simply preventing disease from setting in in the first place. So, the results don't show up as the presence of something but in the absence of something i.e., disease. I have been to an M.D. exactly once in the last 21 years and that was for a check-up and a physical (about 12 or 13 years ago). Otherwise I have generally remained in good health. I did have a bout of pneumonia about 15 years ago, but that was handled naturally and it was over and passed in about a month. However, I have also gone as long as 2 years without so much as a common cold.

M.D.'s have their uses and those I do not deny. Setting a broken bone requires skilled attention and anti-biotics come in handy for some ailments. However, if you follow the news as I do you've noticed, although it usually gets scant attention, that drug recalls are not a rare occurrence and that some purportedly FDA approved nostrums have proven deadly for a significant group e.g., Vioxx and any anti-depressant.

However, the best course of action is simply prevention by practicing good diet, sufficient sleep, and avoiding heavily processed and chemical laden corporate McFood. Knowledge of alternatives helps, although if you are seldom sick natural remedies remain an arsenal in reserve rather than an everyday thing.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-10-05   19:06:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: LACUMO (#12)

I have enough wrong with me and if the $37 I spent for a membership helps alleviate or cures any of my maladies, I will be estatic

The very best of luck, LACUMO!

I want either less corruption or more opportunity to participate in it. Ashleigh Brilliant

angK  posted on  2010-10-05   20:22:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: christine (#7)

It's hard to say this without incurring feminine wrath:

Here it goes...

[cringe]you're at least 10 years older than me (I'm 43)[/cringe]

You're strong, disease free, taut and youthful.

Maybe what you DID DO helped you be this way.

I remember my grandma in her 50's. Old old old old.

You, not so much.

Something to think about.

[don't hit me!]

"The more artificial taboos and restrictions there are in the world, the more the people are impoverished.... The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be." - Lao Tzu, 6th century BC

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-10-05   21:26:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: LACUMO (#12)

I'll keep all informed.

good. i look forward to it and hope for the best.

christine  posted on  2010-10-05   21:42:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: christine (#0)

Snake oil salesmanship. All the usual advertising and marketing gimmicks are used in her pitch, even the time issue "We only have so many copies of this special collection on hand. If you don't join now, RISK-FREE, you may not get yours..." Why didn't she give any results from patients she treated? Or HSI has treated?

OTOH, I hope it all works well for all of you who try it.

Bill Crowe  posted on  2010-10-06   2:55:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: SonOfLiberty, christine (#16)

christine is only 29. You better duck.


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Critter  posted on  2010-10-06   7:27:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: christine (#0)

I think myself that cider vinegar is a powerful preventative measure for most, if not all, of the seven conditions outlined in the piece.

From Blank Cheque Ireland... to Bounced Cheque Ireland.

irishthatcherite  posted on  2010-10-06   8:20:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: christine (#0)

Jenny Thompson is either the prostitute who bopped an English footballer or an Olympic swimmer.

Health Sciences Institute is a mainstream heathcare training/certification center originally aligned with the University of Minnesota. It is NOT directed by a Jenny Thompson.

AGS is a substance that I cannot research on any chemical, pharmaceutical, or any other website. It seems not to exist.

I wish all ills could be served by a simple $381 membership and a "daily health pill". I never found life or health to be that easy.

My recommendations for good health are: (1) Arrange to be born to healthy parents., (2) Do not abuse and misuse your body in your youth(avoid alcohol and nicotene)., (3) Maintain a good body weight and be physically active every day,. (4) Eat right and get a good night sleep., and (5) Enjoy the journey.

I find myself amazed that people who mistrust pharmeceuticals will believe a stranger and place a substance or a multitude of substances into their body simply because they are called natural and miraculous. I know of a lot of "natural" substances I would not put into my body: opium, nicotene, foxglove (digitalis), cocaine, hellebore. All have medicinal uses.

I have nothing to say to people who believe physicians are trained to be blind to reality. Believe what you want, I am too busy to argue with you.

At the end of the day, the speech she gives is a sales pitch.

octavia  posted on  2010-10-06   9:27:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: octavia (#21)

A+

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-10-06   9:34:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: octavia, christine, All (#21)

Jenny Thompson is either the prostitute who bopped an English footballer or an Olympic swimmer.

I have nothing to say to people who believe physicians are trained to be blind to reality. Believe what you want, I am too busy to argue with you.

I believe you are just another pill pusher gaining wealth from pushing pills that don't cure but treat the symptoms. Your opening line gave you away. You had no call to call Jenny Thompson a prostitute or an English swimmer. You don't even know her.

My home town has 7 pharmacies all working full time and they can't seem to fill prescriptions in a timely fashion. The Giant Eagle pharmacy has 9 people working at a drop dead pace. The lines inside and at the drive-in window are always full. The cash register is worn out evry few weeks from all the big bucks they are taking in. People used to go to Canada to get their prescriptions filled, the very same ones they bought here at ridiculous prices. Thanks to owning the politicans, the big pharma lobbied their paid shills to make it illegal to go to Canada to buy their drugs. Those big dollars are once again going into the pockets of big pharma.

Everytime I have gone to my doctor and to any specialists, they are constantly being inundated with pharmacutical reps pushing their latest poison. My doctors office has more signs than Walmart trying to get the patients to ask the doctor if they need any of those poisonous drugs. Just watch the tv adds of big pharma. They are asking you to ask your doctor is such and such would help treat ther symptoms. Your doctor should know if you need another poison. Nothing is ever said about cures. Then watch the warnings about these drugs and it scares you to death. Almost all of them warn of liver damage. Do we really hear the truth on how many died from these poisons? Hardly!

I know people who take 14 or more different pills everyday and sometimes twice a day. It was a gradual thing they say because the initial poison cause other problems and walla, their physican prescribed another pill and then another and so forth. None of them cure anything- they only treat the symptoms and cause other problems.

I agree with most of what you espouse for staying healthy, but you gotta get real here. Finding good healthy wholsome food is getting nearly impossible. Nearly everything you buy in supermarkets is tainted with monosodium glutamate an preservatives and it is hidden because of the FDA allowing it. Eating fast food is like playing Russian Roulette. This wouldn't happen if the medical establishment wanted to stop it. No-they are too busy pushing pills and receiving those big kickback bucks from big pharmacy.

My doctor couldn't wait until he got me on insulun. I asked him if he ever thought they would find a cure for diabetes. His answer was the closest thing to the truth I have ever heard him utter. His answer was an emphatic NO. When I asked him why, he said, "Too much money in the pills, insulin, syringes, swabs, and testing equipment". Look how many billions of dollars raised in Jerry' MDA telethons and they aren't any closer to a cure. The same goes for all the other maladies, or nearly all others.

I know I am a ticking timebomb with all my ailments. The big pharma poison hasn't done one thing to cure any of my ailments, just emptied out my wallet. Now it is time to try something else and a different approach and that is why I signed up with HSI last night. The $37 dollars may or may not help me but my body is starting to reject all the poison I injested over the last ten years, plus it has riuned my eye sight. I'll let everyone on here know what transpires as sonn an anything does.

By the way, do you know what they call the medical student that finished last in his/her medical class? They still call them a doctor. Also, do you know why doctors refer to their treating patients as their practice? It would be nice if someday they quit practicing and do the real job they were trained to do.

LACUMO  posted on  2010-10-06   11:18:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: LACUMO, 4 (#23)

By the way, do you know what they call the medical student that finished last in his/her medical class? They still call them a doctor. Also, do you know why doctors refer to their treating patients as their practice? It would be nice if someday they quit practicing and do the real job they were trained to do.

Great points.

I didn't mind paying $37 for some information that could help me.

I trust the holistic guys much more than I do the FDA and BigPharma folks.

Lod  posted on  2010-10-06   11:30:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: LACUMO (#23)

Please keep us posted as to your results with non-toxic remedies. I'm still pretty healthy, but there are a few creaks and cracks in the armor of my health that I'm concerned about. I'd like to see how these things work out for you.

I would like to direct this to the distinguished members of the panel: You lousy cork-soakers. You have violated my farging rights. Dis somanumbatching country was founded so that the liberties of common patriotic citizens like me could not be taken away by a bunch of fargin iceholes... like yourselves. Thank you. - Roman Moroni

randge  posted on  2010-10-06   11:49:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: octavia (#21)

Believe what you want, I am too busy to argue with you.

i don't believe anything. this is why i wanted your opinion and i thank you for it. all of this is, as you said, a sales pitch and unless someone i know has experienced personal benefit, i'm reluctant to try anything myself. i'm still, of course, interested in pursuing the information.

christine  posted on  2010-10-06   12:10:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: LACUMO (#23)

as randge said, i look forward to hearing your personal experience and really hope it proves beneficial for you.

christine  posted on  2010-10-06   12:23:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: christine (#26)

I was referring just to those who seem to dislike all doctors and all pharmaceutical products. I wasn't talking about these products. Placing all practicioners of an occupation under the same tent is a mistake. I could say all cops and all lawyers are bad, but they are not.

I web researched Jenny Thompson, so the prostitute and the Olympic swimmer refferences are not flippant.

octavia  posted on  2010-10-06   13:21:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: octavia (#28)

Here's the website for the Health Sciences Institute. I don't think this Jenny Thompson is the olympian swimmer. This Jenny claims to be a cancer survivor early on in the audio.

hsionline.com/

christine  posted on  2010-10-06   13:39:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: octavia, Christine (#28)

there was of course a very big American swimmer named Jenny Thompson. This Jenny Thompson in the video may well be the same person as I read that she got a medical degree and worked in a cancer facility.

Psalms 137:1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-10-06   13:39:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Red Jones (#30)

oooh, ok!

christine  posted on  2010-10-06   13:42:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Red Jones, octavia (#30)

this from Wiki

In 2006, Thompson received a medical degree from the Columbia University College of Physicians and Surgeons, and is currently working as an anesthesiologist at the Brigham and Women's Hospital in Boston.

christine  posted on  2010-10-06   13:44:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: christine (#32)

yes, and I also read on the HSI web site you put up that Jenny Thompson writes articles for HSI on their web site. she's a medical professional for sure. and as you showed us, she got a medical degree in 2006. Jenny Thompson the swimmer ended her career around 2000. she was a great swimmer, I remember her, she won a ton of olympic medals.

Psalms 137:1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-10-06   13:47:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: christine (#32)

Different Jenny Thompson. This one has a degree in Journalism. Her biography is on the website.

octavia  posted on  2010-10-06   13:52:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: christine, Red Jones (#31) (Edited)

Thankfully there is a small but growing group of M.D.'s who are willing to question the "conventional wisdom" and break out of the Medical School indoctrination program.

I think they should be applauded however, they have to be cautious and conservative as the AMA/Big Pharma/FDA Medical Gestapo are ever in search of heretics to burn before the Altar of their Profit.

Dr. Campbell is one I like, as Dr. Lorraine Day (although I don't endorse her Theology), and there is a growing resistance to Medical Treatment by authoritarian dictat aimed primarily at increasing Pharmaceutical Companies bottom line. However, it is an uphill battle as they are entrenched and have billions to spend on crushing heretics and apostates to the one true faith of Big Pharma.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-10-06   13:55:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: christine, Octavia, Lod, All (#32)

In 2006, Thompson received a medical degree from the Columbia University College of Physicians and Surgeons, and is currently working as an anesthesiologist at the Brigham and Women's Hospital in Boston.

Funny how Octavia is too busy to pursue this information, but she isn't too busy to put down these natural medicines and putting down the messenger Jenny Thompson. Typical pill pushing doctor talk. Notice how she has ignored my post on this thread.

As soon as I receive my copy of the encyclopaedia of natural cures, I plan on taking them to a holistic doctor who once was a close friend and a colleague of my family doctor. My doctor won't even mention his name anymore because he practices holistic medicine. I went to this doctor for a physical once and looking back I should have stayed with him. This doctor used to have his regular turn as an emergency doctor in our local hospital, but I guess it was a mutual seperation. He has no use for the pill pushers coming outta medical school that earn much of their income pushing pills from big pharma and receiving kickbacks from same.

We have all read of the outlandish controls being set into law by those who are on the take. That list includes doctors, lawyers, insurance companies, and our so called representatives. There is a time rapidly approaching when we will either buy into big pharmas poison or else. Since the document allows for me to pass on information, I will put it on 4um as I receive it. If it helps cure someone from any of the mentioned maladies mentioned, even if it is only one person, my money will have been well spent and it won't be in some lousy pill pushing doctors pocket nor big pharmas.

By the way Octavia, since you are too busy pushing pills that mask the malady and does nothing to cure those maladies, I'll give you all the time you need to address my comments. If you chose to ignore them, I'll know for sure what kind of doctor you really are. Oh, did you prescribe any big pharma poison today?

LACUMO  posted on  2010-10-06   14:35:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Original_Intent (#35)

Thankfully there is a small but growing group of M.D.'s who are willing to question the "conventional wisdom" and break out of the Medical School indoctrination program.

I think they should be applauded however, they have to be cautious and conservative as the AMA/Big Pharma/FDA Medical Gestapo are ever in search of heretics to burn before the Altar of their Profit.

Amen to your first line.

What are you stupid? You know full welll that we are a free country and have no fear of the stooges running and ruining our lives. wink,wink

LACUMO  posted on  2010-10-06   14:39:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: LACUMO (#37)

What are you stupid? You know full welll that we are a free country and have no fear of the stooges running and ruining our lives. wink,wink

Got it. I'm afraid I am kicking too many sacred cows for the comfort of some.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-10-06   14:42:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Jethro Tull (#22)

To: octavia

A+

I do believe it has just been discovered. Is it possible it hasn't reached the establishments glossary of medicines, either because it is really new, or delibertly? Naw, that couldn't happen!

LACUMO  posted on  2010-10-06   14:49:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: LACUMO (#39)

I hope it works as advertised for you LACUMO. I take two different natural supplements 2 x per day myself, so I have a foot in both camps. I'm lucky myself as far as my health, but as Octavia puts it so succinctly, other factors are involved. My parents lived well into their 90s, I don't smoke, drink (once in a blue moon) and exercise 5x a week. I'm 6'0", weigh 200 pounds (which probably should be 190) and the last time my resting heart rate was taken (January) it was in the mid to high 50s. My BP has always been within the normal range. Not bad for an AARP member x 11 years. In my case my state of health appears to genetics, diet, exercise & and life style choices.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-10-06   15:00:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Jethro Tull, Lacumo, christine, all (#40)

Good genetics doesn't hurt, but attitude has a lot of weight as well. I have had much occasion to speak to older people as part of medical studies and the one thing that invariably stands out, my own observation and nothing formal, is that the health of older people is inversely proportional to the number of Big Pharma products they use.

I like my Granfather's fine example. Drink plenty of Whiskey, and quit smoking at 85. Must have worked because he passed on from a minor, non-age related, Kidney infection ten days short of his 100th birthday.

Of course there is always the fine example of the late "oldest man in America" who at 113 still enjoyed his daily Cigar, drank Whiskey (in moderation), and loved greasy food. My kinda' guy. :-)

Of course the late "oldest woman" in the world, French, who passed on at 124, enjoyed cheap red wine (Vin Rouge), and an occasional corrosive French Cigarette (when she could evade the health Nazis).

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-10-06   15:12:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: octavia, christine (#28)

I was referring just to those who seem to dislike all doctors

You might appreciate our antagonism toward establishment allopathy as many us come away from experiences with the medical profession with negative impressions.

Our daughter was misdiagnosed when she fell victim to a gall bladder infection. Our erstwhile physician showed up days after seeing her in the hallway of the emergency center. She was obliged to lay in that hallway for ten hours on a stretcher attended only by her husband in pain and nausea while they figured out what was wrong with her.

Her doc noticed that her husband had a blemish on his nose. He is a dermatologist as well as a GP. He told our son-in-law, "I can remove that for you." This is the last thing that you want to hear from a doctor when your wife is sick and barely conscious and you've been hanging around in a hallway for hours on end. He still has the blemish, BTW. Doesn't bother him or anyone else apparently.

A friend of mine went in to see this guy for his annual checkup. It was the first time in years that he'd condescended to see this patient himself instead of his assistant or the nurse practitioner. He walks into the examining room and announces, "PREDIABETIC!" although it turns out my friend has no problem with his glucose metabolism.

I could tell you more stories, but I'm getting too browned off recounting this stuff.

I would like to direct this to the distinguished members of the panel: You lousy cork-soakers. You have violated my farging rights. Dis somanumbatching country was founded so that the liberties of common patriotic citizens like me could not be taken away by a bunch of fargin iceholes... like yourselves. Thank you. - Roman Moroni

randge  posted on  2010-10-06   15:22:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: LACUMO (#36)

Jenny Thompsons biography is on the Health Science Institute website she "manages". She has a degree in Journalism and is NOT the ex-Olympic swimmer who received a degree in Medicine in 2006.

Go to the website and when you are at it, visit the Products tab. The website does a fair job of pushing pills for profit.

octavia  posted on  2010-10-06   15:59:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: christine (#0)

I'll admit all this info sounds way too good to be true. Seems very strange to mention Alzheimers cures without mentioning the best of them all, NIACIN! Unfortunately it appears she is just out to make a buck however she can. Hope I am wrong, but leaving Niacin out of the cures for Alzhiemers and to help with heart disease is very suspicious.

Here is the text for those that don't want to listen to this long audio.

LIE #1
'Chemo and radiation are your best hope.'

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2010-10-06   17:23:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: octavia (#43)

Go to the website and when you are at it, visit the Products tab. The website does a fair job of pushing pills for profit.

I know they try and push pills. But are they natural pills, pills made of natural substances or are they big pharma's poison pills?

That only scratches the surface and nearly all, if not all of my concerns have been ignored. I wish I knew where your "practice" is because I'd go there unannounced just to see if you truly push pills. I don't hear anything from you that would give me hope you would cure any of my ailments or any thing that you have done to cure any of your patients. Therein lies the problem with big pharma and their poison. That of couse keeps the greenbacks flowing outta the wallets and into the hands of greedy doctors and greedy big pharma.

You were awful quick to point out this was an infomercial. What do you call those big pharma adds on tv? Wouldn't they be one in the same then? I noticed two things that got me really thinking. These medicines are natural and they claim there are no side effects. The other thing is that they didn't tell us we would have to have our liver tested, or not to be taken by anyone who is pregnant or who is going to getpregnant just to name a few. At the very least that was very comforting. Is it possible when someone gets very ill, even terminally ill from these poisons, because they asked their doctor about taking these drugs, it gets the doctor and big pharma off the hook in a court of law? Makes me wonder!

I'm old enough to remeber when there was a time there was a few businesses that were honest, were proud of their products and services and sold and provided their customers with a good product at a price that was reasonable. As I said, used to be that way. Not any more! When a doctor is more concerned about the greenback rather than a patients malady or injury, something is very wrong. I went to an eye doctor who insisted on me paying my co-payment up front even though I had Blue Cross and Blue Shield insurance. That is discusting and very greedy. I wouldn't mind paying the co-payment after seeing the doctor and before I left the office. But hey he had to have the money to pay for the Mercedes. That would be like paying for your meal in advance, tipping the waitress and then being served a lousy meal with poor waitressing to boot.

Personally I don't give two hoots about a doctors background providing he/she give proper care. They could be a graduate of bum f egypt university. I have asked more than one doctor about cures for different ailments and have mentioned natural medicines and they nearly all go on the defensive and bad mouth whatever it was I asked about. We have politicans who call real true patriots and those who question what happened on 9-11, terrorists. That is the impression I got of your first reply on this thread. You chose to take it out on the messenger.

LACUMO  posted on  2010-10-06   17:25:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: LACUMO (#39)

Naw, that couldn't happen

my wife is octavia, lacumo,and as she has posted,there seems to be two jenny thompsons being discussed,give my wife a chance, i will say this,as anyone can/should understand that nothing in our world is absolute,and nothing can be forgiven,or discovered without knowledge.

paddlefeet  posted on  2010-10-06   18:21:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: LACUMO (#45)

Personally I don't give two hoots about a doctors background providing he/she give proper care

great point,spot on. proper care is what anyone should expect from a professional.in my wifes former practise she was partnered with 7 doctors,and one of which,was the doctor that you have seen.the guy was/is a p.o.s. but you cannot judge all doctors from your personal experience,i find that extremely lame.

paddlefeet  posted on  2010-10-06   18:30:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: christine (#6)

if you have time to listen, i'd like to get your opinion of this...

Sales pitch for a book. I got to "Lie" #4. I'm 'sure' 5-7 are teh trooothh.

What I did get out of it: They are advocating some formula of 'AGS(a soy derivitive)' and/or 'HGH'=human growth hormone,available thru an 'Oregon Formula (HGH)' There are some references, but didn't check them. You may want to search it, I've given you some leads. Not sure if it checks out, sorry, hard science guy here ;)

Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2010-10-19   22:40:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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