4um: Illegal Aliens Are Taking The Jobs Americans Won't Do? ( Immigration / Boise / Bozeman / Pocatello )

Title: Illegal Aliens Are Taking The Jobs Americans Won't Do? ( Immigration / Boise / Bozeman / Pocatello )
Source: DeRail Amnesty
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Published: Oct 6, 2010
Author: DerailAmnestydotcom
Post Date: 2010-10-06 10:23:08 by HAPPY2BME-4UM
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Illegal Aliens Are Taking The Jobs Americans Won't Do? ( Immigration / Boise / Bozeman / Pocatello )

We've been told by "comprehensive immigration reform" advocates and and several politicians that illegal aliens take the jobs Americans won't do. Is that true?

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

what people don't seem to understand is that if those meat-packing workers were paid a little bit better, then this would not make a big difference in the end-price that we pay for the meat products at grocery stories. And if those workers had a few extra dollars, then they would spend this in the economy which would be a positive thing for our economy.

Psalms 137:1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

FAIR Reacts: AFL-CIO Says Unionize Illegal Workers and Give Them Amnesty

WASHINGTON, Feb. 17 /U.S. Newswire/ -- Yesterday, the executive council of the AFL-CIO called for an attempt at unionizing the millions of illegal alien workers in this country. It also called for a repeal of employer sanctions and a massive amnesty/reward program that will both fail in its intent, and ultimately send millions more illegal immigrants surging into the country, charged the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR). At a time when numerous studies have shown that, in spite of a booming economy, blue-collar workers are not reaping the rewards, repeal of employer sanctions and another amnesty for illegal aliens would be disastrous for workers who are struggling to maintain a middle class existence.

In industry after industry where large numbers of illegal immigrants are found, American workers and legal immigrants have suffered significant wage losses, declining work conditions, and displacement. Removing whatever minimal protections that the employer sanctions law has provided to American workers will only accelerate the "race to the bottom" for millions of people in this country.

On unionizing illegal workers: The effort to organize illegal workers can never succeed unless the continued flow of cheap labor is cut off. The track record of the United Farm Workers is a case in point: After twenty years of trying unionize farm workers while illegal immigration continued, the Department of Agriculture found that wages still trailed behind inflation, "making it hard for many of them to afford adequate housing and other necessities." Farm wages actually fell between 1977 and 1997. They continue to fall today.

-- In domestic-based industries, such as agriculture, meatpacking, hotel and janitorial service, there has been a steep decline in wages and working conditions, as large numbers of illegal alien have moved into those fields.

-- Conditions in the U.S. labor market, especially in agriculture and meatpacking, have been declining over the past 15 years.

-- Easy access to foreign labor is what has led to displacement and wage stagnation in many formerly unionized industries.

-- Blue-collar workers became the core of the American middle class in the 1950s and 1960s, when immigration was relatively low. With the onset of mass immigration, wage stagnation emerged and union influence ebbed.

On the amnesty and repeal sanctions idea: FAIR suggests Americans wanting to help American workers and taxpayers consider the following:

-- The first amnesty in 1986 cost taxpayers about $78 billion over ten years, according to a study by the Center for Immigration Studies (May 1997).

-- An "amnesty" is actually an "official pardon" for criminal conduct and a "reward" in the form of permanent residence. The best analogy would be to both pardon a bank robber for his crime and give him the money he stole as a reward. No wonder this bonanza fosters more illegal immigration.

-- Amnesty recipients from 1986 appear to vote heavily Democrat. That program was riddled with fraud.

-- When Congress granted an unpopular and fraud-ridden amnesty to some 3 million illegal immigrants in 1986, they pledged to the American public that it would be a one-time-only offer.

"Unless the AFL-CIO can find a way to simultaneously repeal the law of supply and demand, unionization will fail, and they will guarantee stagnant wages for many of their members who stay in these industries," stated Stein of FAIR. "Even if they could be certain that the government would enforce labor laws vigorously, the best that they could hope for would be a work force that is perpetually stuck at or near minimum wage -- creating a negative tax liability that shifts costs onto the community."

"Apart from the fact that Big Labor is no longer protecting the American worker, the big problem is the AFL-CIO's position would leave this country without any effective immigration enforcement potential. If the executive committee has its way, and another legalization program is enacted, America might just as well end the charade and adopt an open borders policy," said Stein. "Wages will plummet, and the end result is a society of few very rich and hundreds of millions of very poor; a society that looks more like Brazil than the America we've come to know and love."

you make a good point that the managers/owners of these businesses make the decisions as to their low pay. However, there are many ordinary American citizens who are cheerleaders for this process of low pay for work and illegal immigrants taking the jobs. I've read comments from people who say food prices would double if the food processers and farmers used legal labor. this is not true, food prices would not double, the amount that they'd increase if legal labor were used I think would be very small.

Psalms 137:1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.

I'd gladly pay another $5 for a plaid shirt in K-Mart if it were made in the USA, by an American citizen. Over time, we'd save money in the long run.

we don't have a meat packing plant here but we have teams of wet backs doing roofing and home construction - the white, Americans who live in this town can not get the American contractors to give em work, but the wet backs are soppin up gravy - can't speak English good enough to even tell ya were the super is, but they can swing a hammer - the rot runs deep - these are our fellow townsfolk hiring the wet backs for jobs white boys can only remember now

No, that is not true: "I've picked tomatoes before moving on to other lines of work. It was called summer work for students in my day and we American youngsters were glad to do it. American adults did that work too. That's back when other jobs weren't even scarce. I've never even heard of a shortage of Americans willing to clean stables around here let alone a shortage of American agricultural workers and maids."

See also: Posts #7 and #9 in that thread, "Our undefended border keeps Mexican unemployment low...while our own rises to Depression levels"

"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

At a Pilgrim's Pride plant here in North Texas it's $8-11 per hour and the plant management is importing busloads of illegals to work in squalid conditions. It's a crime that eats away at the foundation of modern American labor.

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"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?"

The town of Pittsburg in East Texas has put up a statue of that idiot in an outdoor memorial/tribute display.

My brother's trucking company used to haul fish meal and grain for PP back in the day. John said that getting paid usually was a two-month ordeal; the same as with all PP vendors and suppliers.

He finally told Bo and his lame-brain son that he could no longer do business with them.

i remember a gas station in kansas & saw something that really stood out. a white american middle aged woman. pushing around a mop bucket & cart, wiping counters in the lunch area & cleaning the bathrooms. it was very unusual to see that.

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