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Title: Plead guilty to avoid sinning?
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Published: Oct 6, 2010
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Post Date: 2010-10-06 15:46:26 by Artisan
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my neice recently got a nearly $150 dollar ticket for 'not wearing her seat belt'. she had been concerned about coming up with that money-being a student working part time that's not easy. i told her dont pay them jack shít! so she got several months of extensions & we scheduled an initial arraignment in december. by the time the trial (by mail) comes around next year the revenue pig wont even remember who she is. her boyfriend then got a ticket, & i asked her if he wants to fight it. i'd spoken to him about such things before. he s a good guy, knows a bit about corrupt government, 9/11, etc. but then my neice tells me that he just paid it, because he was speeding, & he did not want to 'lie', which would be a sin. Wow! and i thought i was scrupulous? he is a religious man with good morals. but come on. pleading not guilty in court is not lying, its holding this corrupt govt accountable & making them prove their case. the fines are obscene anyway. what would you tell such a person?

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#1. To: Artisan (#0)

I would ask him if he actually hurt anyone or did any property damage. If the answer is no then he did not commit any crime. And it is no sin to say not guilty to an unjust law. Ask if he believes the speed he was driving was excessive for the traffic and road conditions. If he doesn't think so and never hurt anyone or did any property damage then the state has no case.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-10-06   15:52:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

very good points & very interesting because one of californias statutes is 'basic speed law', which states that the motorist must have been endangering persons & property to violate the law. merely exceeding the 'limit' does not violate it. appeals courts have upheld this. so your idea is right on. its a shame most people dont even read the actual statute they are accused of violating.

Artisan  posted on  2010-10-06   16:11:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#3. To: Artisan (#2)

Glad to be of help when I can. One mistake a lot of people make is when the cop asks them, "Do you know how fast you were going?" And they say "no." Wrong answer. If you say that he is at liberty to give you the shaft royally and probably will. A better answer would be to say something like "My speed seemed reasonable under the existing road, weather and traffic conditions." Shows you are aware of conditions and that your state of mind is such that you don't believe you have done anything wrong.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-10-06 19:01:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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