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Title: The Stormberger Prophecies (Very intriguing!)
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Published: Oct 10, 2010
Author: James Donahue
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He Saw The Future

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The Stormberger Prophecies

By James Donahue

(Reprinted From First Edition of Psiomni Magazine)

It was on or about 1830 that Matthias Stormberger, a lowly cow herder at Rabenstein, Germany, recorded some remarkable visions of the future.

This man from out of common stock gave such specific descriptions of a future world, three world wars, the Great Depression, a falling away of the Christian church, and finally the end of times. His prophetic visions are startling.

Whether told in his own words, interpreted from German, or written by others who heard Stormberger57;s prophetic visions, is not clear. What we know is that the prophecies are brief, but loaded with accurate and vivid images of events that occurred long after Stormberger told of them.

His prophecy:

"Iron rods will be built and iron monsters will bark through the wilderness." This is clearly a description of a railroad. James Watt of Scotland built the first steam engine in 1774 and early designs of steam powered engines that pulled cars on iron rail were already appearing in Europe and areas of the United States by 1830. Whether Stormberger saw these engines operating is unclear, but his description of "iron monsters" barking through the wilderness is almost poetic for anyone old enough to remember the actual sound of trains pulled by steam engines.

"Cars without horses and shaft will come . ." It was a German, Karl Fredrick Benz, who designed the first automobile powered by a gasoline engine. He patented his car in 1879, nearly 50 years after Stormberger perceived it. Yet the concept of a four-wheeled vehicle powered by a motor was much older. French designer Nicholas Joseph Cugnot built a steam-powered machine to haul artillery for the French military in 1725. The famed Leonardo da Vinci designed the concept of both an automobile and the airplane during the 1400s. Stormberger57;s vision, however, identified "cars." He saw many of them "without horses and shaft." In the days of horse-drawn wagons, there was a long wooden shaft on the front of the wagon on which a team of horses was attached.

"And man will fly through the air like birds." Leonardo da Vinci studied flight in the 1480s. He left over 100 drawings illustrating his theories on flight. But his flying machine, which was, in effect, a helicopter was never built. Brothers Joseph and Jacques Montgolfier invented the first successful hot air balloon, and the first manned flight occurred in 1783, long before Stormberger made his prediction. It was not until the Wright brothers made their famous flight with a motorized craft in 1900 that aviation became a reality. And men do, indeed, fly through the air today like birds. The skies are filled with aircraft of every description.

Here is where Stormberger57;s visions start getting interesting. His next sentence states that "The Catholic faith will almost completely disappear, the religiousness will be quite badly respected, they will not earn any respect due to their way of living." We are today witnessing the decline of the power of the Roman Catholic Church, largely following the revelations of the massive cover-up of pedophilia between priests and young boys that has been secretly occurring in churches all over the world. That cover-up went all the way into the Vatican. Donahue foresees the end of the Catholic Church. He says there will be one final Pope after Benedict XVI.

"There won57;t be many good Christians among the people, the Commandments of God are no longer respected by the aristocracy as well as by the smallest worker." Again we are witnessing the decline of the Christian faith in spite of the fact that the church appears today to have a grip on governments and the media. While older people are clinging to their faith, the youth are turning away from organized religion. The Iraq war, which is basically a battle between Christians and Moslems, is waking a lot of people up to the fallacies of religiosity. There is a quest for a new spiritual path, one that is best perceived in the world move toward a socialist concept of government. The outmoded and archaic religions of the world are being phased out to make way for a spiritual and mental evolution of the human race.

"One will not think the greatest unfairness to be a sin. When the faith disappears also the love of the next one will completely lose itself. One will not estimate the justice, often the poor one will not be given right and he will be less respected than a dog." And here we have a perfect description of our contemporary society. In spite of laws declaring the rights of individuals, the concept of justice is limited only to those with the means to purchase it. The courts are in league with big business and religious conservatives as they strip away laws that protect the Earth and the dignity of the poor. We are seeing a failure by most people to love so wickedness abounds.

"After this a mischief will arise that has to be regretted, there will be no order among the people." Indeed, something is about to happen that Stormberger perceives as "a mischief" that will be regretted once it begins. And because of it, chaos will prevail. What did he see? Perhaps it is release of biological or chemical agents by terrorists that sicken and kill the masses? Is it the Iraq war? A world war? That it is "mischief" suggests that it is not brought about by accidental action, but is a deliberate deed. This "mischief" apparently disrupts social order. Thus it suggests that authority is so stricken governments can no longer be effective.

"When in the outskirts of the forest the iron road will be finished, and there the iron horse will be seen, a war will begin, to last twice two years. It would be fought with iron fortresses that move without horses." This was an almost uncanny vision of World War I from a very personal perspective, even though Stromberger was not alive to witness it. He lived in the Bavarian forests bordering Czechoslovakia. On the day hostilities broke out, Aug. 1, 1914, a new railroad line between Kalteneck and Deggendorg, along the edge of the forest where Stormberger lived, was opened. The First World War lasted exactly four years. The iron fortresses that moved without horses was obviously a reference to the iron tanks used in this war.

"Two or three decades after the first war it will come one a Second War still larger. Almost all the nations of the world will be involved. Millions of men will die, without being soldiers. The fire will fall from the sky and many great cities will be destroyed." Exactly 20 years, two decades, after the conclusion of the first war, Hitler57;s troops attacked Poland and launched the first phase of World War II. Three years later, Japan attacked the United States at Pearl Harbor. There were, in effect, two wars raging on the planet, although because Germany and Japan were considered "axis powers" we considered it a single war. The fighting concluded after the United States dropped two atomic bombs on Japan. Millions died without being soldiers and fire fell from the sky with entire cities being destroyed.

And this is where Stormberger57;s visions start to get scary. He said: "And after the end of the Second Great War, a third universal conflagration will come, so that it will determine everything." Notice that he refers to the third war as a "universal conflagration." The word conflagration means "fire" or "inferno." From what we know about contemporary weaponry this appears to be a description of a nuclear conflict. Notice what else the prophet has to say about this conflict.

"There will be weapons totally new. In one day, more men will die than in all the previous wars. The battles will be accomplished with artificial weapons." Indeed, we have weaponry today that are so secret that we have only had hints of their power. Experimentation with space weaponry, mind control, low-frequency sound and a multitude of other devices that will stop entire armies cold in the field before a shot can be fired has been going on for years. China, Russia and the United States have been developing missiles that can deliver multiple nuclear warheads halfway around the world. What Stormberger perceived as "artificial weapons" were devices that fight battles from far away and at the push of the button. To the operator it might seem like a computer game. To hundreds of thousands of people on the receiving end of these weapons, it will not be a game.

"Gigantic catastrophes will happen. With the open eyes, the nations of the planet will go through these catastrophes. They won57;t know what is happening, and those that know and tell, will be silenced." This is beginning to occur. We have already witnessed the worst natural disasters ever recorded in human history. Hundreds of thousands of people are dying in massive earthquakes, mud slides, hurricanes, typhoons, bands of super tornados, and forest fires. As the world heats from greenhouse gas emissions, biting insects and super diseases are appearing.

"Everything will be different from before, and in many places the Earth will be a great cemetery. The third war will be the end of many nations." This is the very warning Donahue has been issuing. If the world cannot avoid a global nuclear war, our fate is devistating. He says he perceives China winning this war by completely destroying the United States, but in the process, is left almost destroyed from within from counter-attacks. Other nations may also be involved since this may start with a conflict in the Middle East over oil. Thus Stromberger perceives many places where the Earth will be a great cemetery. Only a remnant of humanity will be left.

Stormberger even has a timeline for this final event that puts us all right in the middle of it. He said: "You, my children, won57;t experience the largest mischief, you my grandchildren, won57;t also experience it, but the third stock, that will easily experience it."

In his final verses, Stormberger appears to be seeing a catastrophic event that is beyond his ability to explain or even properly describe. He notes that the sky and earth both burn and that people fall ill because it is the end of the world. Yet a few who manage to hide themselves under iron and stone are spared. Is it a nuclear war, a great flare from the sun, or something else?

His vision: "Over night it will take place 51; in a pub in Zwiesel (a German city known for its glass) many people will be together, and outside the soldiers will ride over the bridge. The people will run out of the forest. Those who hide themselves at the Fuchsenriegel or at the Falkenstein (a stone castle) remain spared. Who survives must have an iron heading.

"The people become ill, and nobody can help them . . ." a possible reference to radioactive poisoning or perhaps a plague? "However it will continue, and what follows then, is the end of the world. Sky and earth burn, because it is the time when everything comes to an end. And this time will be, when the wild hunt with fire and sulphur roars over the country."

After this, he said, "no humans will know anymore where Zwiesel and where Rabenstein (German towns) have been. Of all frights this will be the last. When the people fall off the bank like the flies off the wall, the last time begins. It will be horrible."

He says there may be a few survivors who bridge a journey from this dying world into another universe. The bodies will not go, however, only the cellular memory. Thus to an outside observer from the past, like Stromberger, he would see people dropping "like flies off the wall."

Amazingly, Stormberger looks even beyond this final event to a time in the distant future when he sees a pastoral scene: "But when however, someone at the whole Danube stream finds still another cow, then she is worth it to be attached with a silver bell by the owner.

"After these events it will be a miracle, if one still sees two or three rulers going together, after these events the clarity will be anew, and those who survived, will face a good time for hope."

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#60. To: Turdle, Cynicom, all (#58)

Hi Turdle - here to poison the thread I see.

After all we can't have people starting to think outside the approved box eh?

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-10-10   14:25:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: farmfriend (#25)

I doubt seriously that the coming WWIII would involve global nuclear conflagration.

I guess its just limited to nuclear winter, then.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-10-10   14:32:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: irishthatcherite (#59)

It would be an understatement if I said my curiosity is piqued. lol

At one time I was involved with the possible scenario of dropping A-bombs on Russia/China.

Since that time it has escalated to many countries having A weapons which man is all too willing to use.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-10-10   14:41:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Original_Intent, turtle (#60)

Hi Turdle - here to poison the thread I see.

Turtle has always lost out with the gurls so he bugs us in resentment.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-10-10   14:42:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Cynicom, Turdle (#63)

I bet it makes his boyfriends happy though.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-10-10   14:45:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Cynicom (#63)

Turtle has always lost out with the gurls so he bugs us in resentment.

OI is just jealous of me.

And he has no sense of humor, taking insignificant molehills and magnifying them into mountains that exist only in his mind.

"If ever this vast country is brought under a single government, it will be one of the most extensive corruption, indifferent and incapable of a wholesome care over so wide a spread of surface. This will not be borne, and you will have to choose between reform and revolution. If I know the spirit of this country, the one or the other is inevitable." - Thomas Jefferson

Turtle  posted on  2010-10-10   14:50:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Original_Intent (#64)

I bet it makes his boyfriends happy though.

Good heavens.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-10-10   14:51:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Cynicom (#66)

I bet it makes his boyfriends happy though.

Good heavens.

Usually, those who accuse others of homosexuality are closet homosexuals themselves.

"If ever this vast country is brought under a single government, it will be one of the most extensive corruption, indifferent and incapable of a wholesome care over so wide a spread of surface. This will not be borne, and you will have to choose between reform and revolution. If I know the spirit of this country, the one or the other is inevitable." - Thomas Jefferson

Turtle  posted on  2010-10-10   14:53:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Turtle, Original_Intent (#67)

Usually, those who accuse others of homosexuality are closet homosexuals themselves.

My sexual orientation was determined very early on as I allowed only gurls to play in my sandbox. The other boys I chased away. Kept them all to myself.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-10-10   14:57:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: buckeroo (#61)

I guess its just limited to nuclear winter, then.

A less than worthy response.


"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.
Senator Jacob Howard, Co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.

farmfriend  posted on  2010-10-10   15:24:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: farmfriend (#69)

You talked about global nuclear conflagration, has though it is limited to fire.

All I presented was the obvious ramification countering your post. Oh yeah, its coming. You can't duck or hide.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-10-10   15:59:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: buckeroo, All (#70)

Speaking of fire, I found this nugget noodling around in sites about "Stormberger" (which may have been a pseudonym.)

Drei Städte seh ich untergehen, die eine im
Süden versinkt im Schlamm, die andere im Norden
geht im Wasser unter, die dritte ist über
dem Wasser. Die Stadt mit dem eisernen Turm
geht im Feuer unter, aber nicht durch den
Krieg. Die eigenen Leute zünden an, Revolution
wird sein.

Three cities I see falling, one in the south
sinks into the mire, another in the north
sinks into the water, and the third is across
water. The city with the iron steeple goes
down in flames. Its own people will set it
afire. There will be revolution.

www.archive.org/stream/Ad...5551Doppels.Scan_djvu.txt

What great city "across the water" from the shepherd prophet has an iron steeple or dome?? Heh-heh.

I would like to direct this to the distinguished members of the panel: You lousy cork-soakers. You have violated my farging rights. Dis somanumbatching country was founded so that the liberties of common patriotic citizens like me could not be taken away by a bunch of fargin iceholes... like yourselves. Thank you. - Roman Moroni

randge  posted on  2010-10-10   18:24:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: buckeroo (#70)

You talked about global nuclear conflagration, has though it is limited to fire.

It was the term used in the article. I was dealing with that specific.


"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.
Senator Jacob Howard, Co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.

farmfriend  posted on  2010-10-10   19:00:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: randge (#71)

I haven't a clue. Perhaps you can suggest your own interpretation.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-10-10   19:37:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: farmfriend (#72)

Nuclear war is imminent despite the interpretation of apparent ramifications.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-10-10   19:39:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: randge (#71)

Hitler had most of his writings destroyed and I have been unable to find anything about his predictions and the rise of Hitler?????

Cynicom  posted on  2010-10-10   20:04:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Cynicom (#75)

Seems that these writing were vouchsafed in Latin by a monk at the time. Our prophet was illiterate

They were destroyed some time after 1933.

I would like to direct this to the distinguished members of the panel: You lousy cork-soakers. You have violated my farging rights. Dis somanumbatching country was founded so that the liberties of common patriotic citizens like me could not be taken away by a bunch of fargin iceholes... like yourselves. Thank you. - Roman Moroni

randge  posted on  2010-10-10   22:47:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Cynicom (#68)

Usually, those who accuse others of homosexuality are closet homosexuals themselves.

My sexual orientation was determined very early on as I allowed only gurls to play in my sandbox. The other boys I chased away. Kept them all to myself.

I am not now nor have I ever been a Republican.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-10-11   0:02:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Cynicom (#62)

At one time I was involved with the possible scenario of dropping A-bombs on Russia/China.

Since that time it has escalated to many countries having A weapons which man is all too willing to use.

Sounds a bit like War Games. lol

From Blank Cheque Ireland... to Bounced Cheque Ireland.

irishthatcherite  posted on  2010-10-11   0:22:58 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: farmfriend, Original_Intent, christine, abraxas (#25)

The problem with prophecy like these and Nostradamus is that they can be interpreted to mean anything, by those with hindsight.
Note that sci-fi writers are able to predict future technology and social-economic conditions with much more clarity, and no claim of prophecy.
The prophecy is interesting, and may be true for all I know, but it's too vague and subject to interpretation.

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"Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known."
-Carl Sagan.

Armadillo  posted on  2010-10-11   1:12:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Original_Intent (#77)

I am not now nor have I ever been a Republican.

LOL


"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.
Senator Jacob Howard, Co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.

farmfriend  posted on  2010-10-11   1:22:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: irishthatcherite (#78)

Sounds a bit like War Games. lol

Well, it was a one way ticket. We took it very seriously.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-10-11   3:19:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Armadillo (#79)

The problem with prophecy like these and Nostradamus is that they can be interpreted to mean anything,

Not totally accurate.

Nostradamus thru fear encrypted his work. That leads to interpretation.

Stromberger encrypted nothing, he could neither read nor write, and his time tables are specific and proved very accurate.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-10-11   3:24:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: Cynicom (#82)

Stromberger encrypted nothing, he could neither read nor write

Oh sure, that's why the BS lingers.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-10-11   4:39:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Cynicom (#81)

Well, it was a one way ticket. We took it very seriously.

I can imagine, quite a burden on one's shoulders.

From Blank Cheque Ireland... to Bounced Cheque Ireland.

irishthatcherite  posted on  2010-10-11   8:54:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: irishthatcherite (#84)

I can imagine, quite a burden on one's shoulders.

Alcohol was ones only friend.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-10-11   8:59:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: Cynicom (#85)

Alcohol was ones only friend.

I do hope there where no red buttons nearby.. lol

From Blank Cheque Ireland... to Bounced Cheque Ireland.

irishthatcherite  posted on  2010-10-11   9:44:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: irishthatcherite (#86)

I do hope there where no red buttons nearby.. lol

Not in those early days, no red buttons.

The mail was to be delivered, first class, post paid by aircraft. The olde fashioned way. These days, humans are not involved, except with the red buttons, and they hide in underground bunkers, the cowards. hehehehehe

Cynicom  posted on  2010-10-11   9:51:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: Cynicom (#87)

Not in those early days, no red buttons.

The mail was to be delivered, first class, post paid by aircraft. The olde fashioned way. These days, humans are not involved, except with the red buttons, and they hide in underground bunkers, the cowards. hehehehehe

A dangerous scenario actually.. we see on the Internet how people can be a lot braver than they are in real life, same thing really with a red button in a bunker..

From Blank Cheque Ireland... to Bounced Cheque Ireland.

irishthatcherite  posted on  2010-10-11   9:54:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Armadillo, farmfriend, christine, abraxas (#79)

The problem with prophecy like these and Nostradamus is that they can be interpreted to mean anything, by those with hindsight. Note that sci-fi writers are able to predict future technology and social-economic conditions with much more clarity, and no claim of prophecy. The prophecy is interesting, and may be true for all I know, but it's too vague and subject to interpretation.

As much as I love Science Fiction, and have been hooked on it since age 7, the key difference is specificity of specific events, not just trends. While I would agree that much of what Michel de Nostradame wrote of becomes clear only after the fact he was nevertheless writing 400 hundred years ago when some of the stuff he mentions was not even conceived of in the most radical theory of the time, and some of the people mentioned were not even born until more than 300 years into the future. He championed the Copernican theory a good 100 years before Galileo's trial for heresy in doing the same.

However, it is not my wish so much to be his champion but simply to point out that the critics, and skepdicks, use much the same line of reasoning to dismiss that which their feeble intellects do not understand. Not that I am placing you in their same category as I do not. It is simply a matter of the non-physical sciences being derided by a materialist steeped culture causes us to think along the conditioned lines and thus I am seeking to run a contrary course.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-10-11   13:23:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Original_Intent, Christine, farmfriend, abraxas (#89)

It is simply a matter of the non-physical sciences being derided by a materialist steeped culture causes us to think along the conditioned lines and thus I am seeking to run a contrary course.

In researching Stormberger and others, I found several academic efforts that delved into the possibility/probability that there just may well be something here that we do not understand...namely that there is an effort to enlighten man as to his future...

I did not have time to read deeply but it seems there is much we do not understand.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-10-11   13:38:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Cynicom (#90)

I did not have time to read deeply but it seems there is much we do not understand.

With that you will get no argument. I think it is the conceit of man in every age that he/she perceives themselves atop the apex of achievement. And while there is nothing wrong with that per se, the problem is when people actually believe such that they also conceive that they already know everything worth knowing, and yet do not. Hence the closure of the Patent Office in the late 1800's because everything that could be invented had been.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-10-11   13:43:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Original_Intent (#19)

Nicolai Nostradamus

Who was Nicolai? I always thought his name was Michel de Nostradame (he was French, you know).

All that aside, it has seemed to me in recent years that he is/was nothing more than a tool for the warmongers and rapture monkeys.

Democrats don't mind war as long as they can have big government. Republicans don't mind big government as long as they can have war.

PnbC  posted on  2010-10-11   14:16:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: Cynicom, Original_Intent, Christine, abraxas (#90)

In researching Stormberger and others, I found several academic efforts that delved into the possibility/probability that there just may well be something here that we do not understand...namely that there is an effort to enlighten man as to his future...

I did not have time to read deeply but it seems there is much we do not understand.

Also there is that new prophesy thing were things are foretold based on what people are talking about on the computer or something like that. Very interesting.


"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.
Senator Jacob Howard, Co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.

farmfriend  posted on  2010-10-11   16:18:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: farmfriend, Original_Intent (#93)

Also there is that new prophesy thing were things are foretold based on what people are talking about on the computer or something like that. Very interesting.

I've heard about that on "Coast to Coast AM".
They look for keywords on the internet and base predictions on them. The idea being peoples choice of certain words gives insight into the collective unconscious. Not really a prophesy, more like a pseudoscience.
The predictions are pretty interesting.

Isnt there anyone prophesying anything good? It's always doom.
When Bush was still President, lots of psychics were predicting Bush would declair martial law or other things.
They were wrong, but got lots of people worked up for no reason.

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"Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known."
-Carl Sagan.

Armadillo  posted on  2010-10-11   20:04:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: Armadillo, Original_Intent, abraxas (#94)

Isnt there anyone prophesying anything good?

Saw a head line here the other day about the eminent demise of the Fed. Sounds like a good prophecy to me.


"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.
Senator Jacob Howard, Co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.

farmfriend  posted on  2010-10-11   20:56:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: farmfriend (#95) (Edited)

Saw a head line here the other day about the eminent demise of the Fed. Sounds like a good prophecy to me.

I dont know about "eminent", but it's a safe bet the Fed will be gone eventually.
Maybe after an audit, finding massive corruption, desolving the Fed in an orderly fashion.
Or after a revolution, where it simply ceases to exist.

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"Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known."
-Carl Sagan.

Armadillo  posted on  2010-10-11   22:22:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: farmfriend (#93)

that's Clif High's Webbot.

christine  posted on  2010-10-11   22:29:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: PnbC (#92)

Nicolai Nostradamus

Who was Nicolai? I always thought his name was Michel de Nostradame (he was French, you know).

All that aside, it has seemed to me in recent years that he is/was nothing more than a tool for the warmongers and rapture monkeys.

You are right I was wrong. I don't know where the Nicolai came from, but I corrected myself elsewhere.

I've been interested in his predictions since I was a teenager (which has been at least a couple of years). My mother was interested in it and got me interested in it. Her precocious oldest was her sounding board so I learned a lot from her explorations.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-10-12   0:59:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: christine (#97)

that's Clif High's Webbot.

It is an intriguing concept.


"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.
Senator Jacob Howard, Co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.

farmfriend  posted on  2010-10-12   2:44:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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