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Title: Too Big to Allow: Some Unmentioned Ramifications of 911 Truth
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Published: Jun 3, 2009
Author: Michael Everyman
Post Date: 2010-10-10 14:19:53 by GreyLmist
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Does anyone ever think about a world where the unofficial story of 911 actually turns out to be true? What would happen if an alternative 911 theory was proven as fact? Well, maybe people have thought about it, but seems like nobody ever says anything. Why? Sadly, it is for the very reason of the resulting disturbing scenario that any 911 truth may never be told, as it involves a wrench thrown into the system beyond anything most anyone would ever want to imagine.. For several years I have followed the 911 Truth Movement. I read, watched, and learned more than my share, heard opinions and counter-opinions, and like many, have sorrowfully concluded that there was definitely some sort of official deception involved in those September 2001 events, be it a large scale cover-up or a diabolical inside job. Debatable though my 911 opinion may be, it is not the purpose of this article. What I would like to consider is the still hypothetical scenario of what would happen next if it actually was undeniably illustrated that the US government was involved at some level in the events of 911. I mean, let’s suppose a truly independent commission concluded it, or some juicy factoid or video leaked, or a major whistle-blower stepped forward. And bang, there you go, its accepted that 911 truthers were correct with their alternate theory, people agree the US government was in on it, puzzle solved. The world moves forward a day. So now what? Unfortunately, such a concept has gained no attention, and though I have searched and waited for the topic to come up, with all the discussion out there I have yet to hear much of this entirely plausible “what’s next” situation. Probably since within this silence lies some quite unsettling thoughts. It was actually one of the first things which shot through my mind about 3 years ago when I first had the bitter twist in my stomach right after I ‘woke up’ and conceded that something rotten had really gone on. “This is real, so what’s gonna happen after its exposed,” I thought. I can't be alone in thinking like this, but I have yet to see or hear anything to this tune, and though the truth cause has been gaining steam, “truthers” continue to be harassed and ignored by everyone visible, from John McCain to Bill Maher, from Naom Chomsky to even Penn and Teller. Why is that, you may wonder. Oh, well, they are all just ignorant fools, you may even say. Or haven’t you considered the ramifications? Take a moment, consider the possible future, and you may also conclude it is most definitely something on the minds of more than just any political perpetrators, and that it would result in people conspiring for silence in media, business, academia, and entertainment, both foreign and domestic, conservative and liberal –just about anyone. It gives the real reasons why it will be forever unlikely that the truth will ever emerge and the Untruth Movement may inevitably triumph. It’s called ‘survival instinct’. (please bear with me to the end, I will try to be serious and intelligent, but any hypothetical scenario can always seem a little overboard…) Firstly, if the truth be told, many people all over the world would be in utter shock, while many others would feel vindicated. Still others would fill with rage, and eventually everyone (as the hours and days ticked by) would simply panic, for various reasons. Now maybe we could imagine a bunch of neo-con cronies getting arrested while they try to flee. That’d be nice, but it is a mere tid-bit. Do you think they'll go down quietly, or alone? The muck will indeed be flying, my friends. Think about it, who in the US government would be clean from this then? Obama? Biden? Hillary? Any serving senator or congressman for that matter? They all had access; security clearances, classified eyes, and most likely key knowledge that something was wrong, but they have chosen to hide and/or ignore it (as we’ve seen…). Remember, no elected federal official has openly challenged the approved story, and there hasn’t been any known Deep Throat. They have obviously been colluding to keep us in the dark. Essentially, their credibility is already shot. Even though only a few no longer serving individuals may have originally been involved, it seems everyone currently in authority is at the very least distrustfully complicit. (one may say Ron Paul is an exception, but he's not banging down the doors of 911 truth, rather more like taking the tactical line of not agreeing but not disagreeing either, and he's not going out of his way to bring this up. Someone has to put their bare balls on the table regarding this for them to gain my trust and respect.) Would you trust the generals in control of the military? Nope, ditto. The supreme court? The CIA? The FBI? Guess who appointed all of them. (UPDATE: Obama's June 4, 09 Cairo Speech again underlining the above mentioned denial machine) (UPDATE II: Ron Paul's Aug 12 reference to "19 individuals with razor blades", again supporting the official theory, at about 1:15 in this video We the people would not be able to honestly trust anybody in office (scary to think who we would be left with for a viable president?), yet it'd be a fair estimate that these bastards will release their power only after repeated public-degenerative tantrums similar to taking a cookie away from a kindergartner (..if ya can't beat 'em, litigate 'em!). But you know how gullible the population is. People would be disillusioned and lost, clinging on to whatever snake-oil salesman that comes along (ie. whoever gets the most air-time). People will want to get beyond this pile of poop quick, but it will linger in every corner they run to. So it may be that the resulting government will not be any better. I shudder to think how this will play out in party politics... So very quickly, amongst by far the biggest scandal in its history, the US government as we know it would be in the critical stages of either an imploding collapse, or an unending, deteriorating witch hunt full of ridiculous legal hurdles, or even extreme martial law due to an understandably unruly populace and predictably flippant ACLU. Everyone could be conceivably accused of something, and the trials would take years, decades. Most government functions would most likely shut down in the form of an understandably imposed National Emergency. (it is no wonder to me that GW Bush quietly installed the Continuity of Government plan during the six months immediately following 911, I’m sure to deal with just such a scenario to keep the boat afloat just in case part of the cover slipped during that most volatile time while the story and “evidence” were being fixed and any would-be whistle-blowers, such as the media or guys like Tom Dashle, were convinced to toe the line. Remember all that anthrax?) At that point, who would be in charge?? Whoa, looks bad when you think about who’d be left in command of our nukes, huh? (maybe we’ll give the button to Jesse Ventura. I'd be cool with that.) Well, the political storm would at best take a few days to really get going (and years to overcome), though some people would be taking to the streets almost immediately, al a Rodney King. But what would happen more quickly would be the panic driven financial meltdown. This depression/recession we are experiencing right now would be a trivial blip compared to just the initial hours of post-judgment. Even if Wall Street was suspended, the US currency and all foreign Federal investments would rapidly become scorching hot potatoes, and no line of Federal assurance would alter this. There would be a run on the banks in a scramble for liquidity. Amongst the impending US leadership question-mark, investors worldwide would quickly dump anything to do with the dollar (I would), then anything to do with US government contracts, and eventually anything to do with any company that has any business linking itself with America via export, service, or supply in any way, which is just about every listed institution of commerce on this planet. Essentially, since nearly everything is somehow linked to US markets and confidence in an AAA-rated government to back it, then everything has the potential to contract big-time if the government has its entire leadership ability undermined, thereby making practically everything an unsound investment. “America’s sinking, no end in sight, jump ship!” Every remaining Euro and Yen (because dollars would become worthless without backing) would probably go into certain existing commodities, yet they would probably at one point run out too. As the dollar slid beyond imagination, things like gold would possibly become immeasurable in dollar terms. But eventually all currencies and commodities may also crash as nobody would have any money left or a job to buy things with. Admittingly I’m no economist, but such a case is vastly beyond any historic precedent, so who knows what would happen after crossing this Rubicon, except that people would panic and it’d really suck for capitalism as we know it. (Just the domestic civil lawsuits alone would be enough to bankrupt the nation). Now you think the American people would be annoyed with being duped by this whole mess? What about the Afgans and Iraqis? Woops. I bet they’d be justifiably ticked-off to say the least. If the US had any troops still over in those countries, (currently two hundred thousand-plus with all the contractors) they could possibly be left out to dry since the potentially non-functioning US government may not be able to remove all of these now unlawful enemy combatants. Would the US military actually bow down and walk away gently, and if so, would those we violated conceivably accept that? Now things could really get bizarre. What would be the state of our worldwide military operations in a couple dozen other countries, or our hundreds of international bases, and their several hundred thousand occupants? Would airspace be closed to our planes, or waters closed to our boats? Would there be a freeze on US passports? Would someone (Iran? Pakistan? Russia? France? the entire UN?) stand up for those the US had wrongfully attacked and then challenge us? Seek compensation? Retaliation? How on earth would the inevitable war crimes tribunal operate? After WWII the US occupied both Germany and Japan for several years during those trials. Would somebody then have to occupy the US? Seriously, try to imagine all this. It is utterly beyond realistic comprehension (Hey, it'd make a cool movie, but I'm not sure if I would actually want to live through it.) And how many more governments had their thumbs in this pie? (rest assure, if you and I can conclude an alternative 911 truth through available public documentation, then just about any foreign government with a basic intelligence service has as well, and it’s obvious that they too have chosen silence and complicity, -exception Hugo Chavez and Ahmadinejad.). How about the potential disruption it would cause with the governments and their constituents in other countries? Those feisty Europeans will be quickly removing those favorable governments we worked so hard to install. The world, who all remember so vividly our American hubris and resulting crimes against humanity, would probably present one big collective middle finger to us, and understandably so. Imagine the boycotts! And in a bizarre twist of fate, most developed countries would be legally bound by their own constitutions to curtail their exchanges with us since the US would be considered a state sponsor of terrorism. This wouldn’t just mean enforced diplomatic restrictions, but also military, academic, cultural, and economic constraints as well, which would be an even further reason for the world financial community to dump US investments. Eventually Saudi Arabia would lose its best customer, Israel would lose its best supporter, South Korea (and Taiwan) its biggest protector, Africa its biggest donor, Mexico its largest employer, and the Chinese would no longer have our Wal-Marts to unload their crap into. The turmoil would be global. Ouch. (at least Canadians will be happy to have something more to moan at us about...) Back home, (predictions may get really weird here..) how on earth would the government credibly and conceivably govern? It would be a legal and economic mess vastly beyond our wildest fantasies. Here’s one: as the dollar dissolved and the US consumer market vanished, companies would go bankrupt, an unparalleled depression would engulf the world, inflation would be astronomical, people would freak-out, and pandemonium would erupt throughout cities. Ooof. A police state would be the only way to keep order (yet who’d pay the cops, and with what?), but many people would be so outrageously pissed that they would probably be unwilling to submit anymore as they see the American dream of liberty amongst unlimited consumerism crumble around them. (Annie, get yer gun...) Who knows, if supply lines break, food stores would run out within a few weeks, people would starve and riot, basic infrastructure would deteriorate (like a nationwide Katrina..), the States would very likely break-up as the Federal government would be a basket-case of finger-pointing, indictments, and distrust, and if we were lucky, some people would pull together and keep the electric on while at the same time preventing dams from bursting and nuclear power plants from melting down. This is why we have the COG. Ironically, we may very much look like the modern day Iraq of our own making. (And who says Mad Max was fiction…) (Some New World Order theorists claim there are currently massive internment camps being set up nationwide for some dreadful future use. Hmmm… such absurdity seems almost plausible now, huh? And some hardcore NWO pundits might further suggest that this blunderous backfire may have even been originally planned by the men behind the scenes when they created 911, in order to first amass as much wealth as possible, then by eventually exposing 911 truth, create the very widespread panic/collapse necessary to destroy independent businesses, consolidate their ownership, and reduce global population, so to re-build with a completely totalitarian world “government” and weakened human spirit. Paradoxically, that’d mean the 911 truthers are actually helping install the NWO… don’t ya love those conspiracies!) Now, this may sound farfetched (ahh, I love a good ramble of the imagination), but alas, one must at least conclude that it would be a fairly catastrophic day if it was unquestionably determined that the US government conspired to kill thousands of its own citizens so that war profiteers could benefit from the destruction and deaths of what would have obviously been innocent foreign lives (imagine, not even a single Taliban/ al Qaeda could be regarded as a terrorist anymore –would they actually become freedom fighters!?). The legal implications, both foreign and domestic, would be a disaster. There’d be no back-stepping, no believable spin. How many hundreds of thousands have died so far? How many more would die if an inside 911 plot became exposed? The potential disruption is so enormous that it is frighteningly inconceivable. The US government would be gutted, even with the new administration. No clean-up of this would be manageable as it is a case beyond imagination. It would take years to overcome. But be sure that life as you now know it would never be the same again because the US government (and military, and media, and business) would lose any remaining credibility, become insolvent, and the economy and status of authority would most definitely alter and suffer beyond any calculable anticipation. Your summer vacation plans? Your favorite burger joint? Happy hour drinks with your co-workers? American Idol? This web page? Imagine them gone…. So now, when you scratch your head or rant or scream whenever you see another political nitwit skirt a 911 issue; when FEMA or NIST release another “investigation”; when the media, be they left or right, calls you a tin-foil-hat conspiracy theorist; when people seem block-headed and refuse to listen… ...well, do you think they may have already thought of this scenario, whether wittingly or subconsciously? Guess what? Yeah, they probably already decided to keep their mouths shut and look the other way for this very reason, even work actively to discredit 911 “troofers”, because they are just trying to save their own status quo and maintain the fabric of this current society for themselves and everyone else (now that’s what you call a deal with the devil!). Basic risk management would indeed calculate just such a response. Think about it, for one to do otherwise could actually be seen as promoting their and everyone’s own demise, which oddly, could be construed as unethical in some warped way. And such a perverse viewpoint could even put the 911 truthers in some bizarre position as lackeys for the very same societal collapse and potential oppression which they were originally working against in the first place. Suddenly Orwell was right, and the widespread mantra has indeed become two plus two equals five! Like it or not, 911 truth presents a major moral dilemma: -should one press for justice with a belief in a better, liberated future, and in turn gamble with all the havoc it may create worldwide; expose evil yet set off into uncharted and turbulent waters, potentially ruining your own and everyone else’s current way of life? -or should one remain silent, accepting that evil will always exist while merely hoping that no further nastiness comes from it; get the best slice of pie possible, try to build a better reality from the existing foundation, aim not to allow it to be repeated, and go on with life the best you can? Which would be best for your family? Which should we strive for as a nation? Which would be better for mankind? It’s a conflict of instinct and judgment, solace and integrity, and it’s a decision I am truly afraid to make. I have to give credit to the 911 perpetrators for coming up with the ultimate tool to get away with it: they are simply black-mailing us with life as we know it. (Personally, after countless hours of consideration, I’ve decided that whichever is the result, it will shape the destiny of our social evolution for generations, and so, as bitter the medicine may be, and as challenging and dire as it may come to pass, one should not let others sell the soul of humanity for momentary material comforts, nor allow the virtues on which the US was built to be destroyed by complicit greed. Though you may not have been involved in the attack, compliance through silence is still guilt. It is always better for us to seek the truth, no matter what the cost, as that is the only way towards a more positive, progressive, and enduring future. Only the truth will set you free, and whether enough influential others will ultimately agree in order to make a difference, only time will tell...) PS: With these suggestions I have no intention to be seen as a harbinger for doomsday. I'm sure a more skilled would-be Nostradamus (probably you) could make some more accurate predictions. Either way, any prophet will agree that a post-911 future would suck big-time. (And if you honestly think it will be all daisies and giggles, you can go back to hiding here.) Rather, in highlighting this seldom mentioned but strikingly obvious facet of 911 truth, I only wish to point out that with the way things are currently arranged, the after effects of 911 truth will for many, many people be very, very bad. So bad that it would seriously undermine people’s judgment, and would understandably result in the current situation of collective denial, especially in government, business, and media. If truthers honestly want to establish a better world, they should begin openly considering and discussing some form of post-Truth contingency plan now, as not doing so would be reckless, irresponsible, uninviting, and (as we’ve seen) downright scary. *** Source: If you want to link this or reprint My shit elsewhere, like with Bill O'Reily, a 911 truth site, or even Obama's Blackberry, go ahead. Just let Me know if you do. to contact ME http://thingsbyme.weebly.com/ramificationsof911.html Posted by [Redacted] at 3:42 PM
Poster Comment: At the Comments section: Ness said... From the Netherlands: On the impact this would have on European countries: here also, leaders, politicians, talking heads and press would be held responsible for the conspiracy of silence. To know and not act is almost as bad as to perpetrate the crime. We would be too busy hanging them from the highest trees to point the finger at the American people. EU would certainly break apart, the euro would be considered poison like the dollar. Chaos would rule until the cleansed remnants of national and municipal governments take over. The collective feelings of shame and relief would be shared with the American people rather than be transformed into *rightious anger*. There wouldn't be any boycotts or other acts of retribution. Actually i think there would be a lot of support for you all, even worldwide. Already, those here that understand what really happened point never blame *the Americans*. We have all been had! October 9, 2010 12:26 AM
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
An interesting line. I have to wonder if it is a planted PsyOp piece. The name Michael Everyman is suggestive of that. Would 911 blowing up be chaotic? Likely yes - but only for a time, and likely a relatively short one. Blowing open 911 does reveal a lot about how our society is governed from the shadows, but does that make shining a light into the shadows only to find all sorts of vermin mean that would be a bad thing? You do not clean out the muck by not looking. The people who conducted 911 are quite capable of doing it again and on a much larger scale. And don't kid yourself anyone vile enough to do 911 is vile enough to do it again (I suspect the Gulf disaster was a covert 911 event and in the long run it will kill a hundred times more people - just not as quickly or spectacularly, but slowly through disease and drastically shortened lifespans). So, scare you into silence scenarios aside, the likely consequences would be a big blow-up that would be chaotic but short lived. Exposing the truth, and operating on the truth, allows for correct answers. Someone operating on a falsehood will draw false conclusions. It is the old computer programmer's maxim: "Garbage In = Garbage Out" or "GIGO" for short. A blow up removes mostly from power those operating on a covert agenda to the detriment of all. It is the necessary Step Zero in reconstructing and strengthening "A Government of The People, By the People, and For the People" not a government run by elite psychotics who given their sway will kill a majority of the world's population. So remaining in thrall to the lie is a false alternative as it actually leads to a worse situation not an improved one.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Amazing. Thanks for this all too real scenario.
may have even been originally planned by the men behind the scenes when they created 911, in order to first amass as much wealth as possible, then by eventually exposing 911 truth, create the very widespread panic/collapse necessary to destroy independent businesses, consolidate their ownership, and reduce global population, so to re-build with a completely totalitarian world “government” and weakened human spirit. the ultimate tool to get away with it: they are simply black-mailing us with life as we know it. If truthers honestly want to establish a better world, they should begin openly considering and discussing some form of post-Truth contingency plan now, as not doing so would be reckless, irresponsible, uninviting, and (as we’ve seen) downright scary. http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=A7JgXjRmYG4 Liberty Preparedness Projects proposal: Expedition Wild – Project Kodiak
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Let's start building a better future now so that people can move to Truth and Liberty without being devastated, adrift, and impoverished.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
For lack of knowledge, the people perish. People have to snap out of their somnambulism. Wake Up!
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
Knock it off, professor. Us'n Hoosier Hicks don't take kindly to big city slickers tryin' to edjumicate us.
Thank God for Firefox' spell check.
The answer is "It isn't what the article said, it's what it didn't say." There were more than enough disturbing possibilities raised to alarm social security recipients, and that was the purpose without ever addressing that special interest group. You and O_I nailed it-it's psy-op. Once these terrifying scenarios are in play you'd never even get a grand jury to indict because those jurors on the dole would fear the loss of their checks. Given the choice between justice for the murdered 3,000 (not to mention over a million Iraqi lives wasted in a phony PNAC war) and even a temporary disruption in transfer payments, well, what do you think would be the outcome? "I mean, there's justice and then there's justice, you know? After all, the 9/11 survivors were offered munny by the gummint so why should we suffer since those who wanted it have already been compensated? Sure, the govt does some evil stuff sometimes, but it's so good to so many millions of people that....well, you don't throw the baby out with the bath water!"
"I have to give credit to the 911 perpetrators for coming up with the ultimate tool to get away with it: they are simply black-mailing us with life as we know it." -- From the Article. That's it in a Nutshell.
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what would happen if sarah palin & mitt romney danced the jig with reptilian elves on a cheese paved moon on the way to pennsylvania avenue in 2016!!? oh me oh my. the dramatic potential is ENDLESS!
"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13 While the impact can be handled, and the mess cleaned up we still get back to step Zero which is the recognition of the true state of affairs. 911 was an inside job. We live in what is now arguably the most manipulated culture in human history. It is coming at us from all fronts - television, print, radio, and yes the Internet. A majority of the population is effectively sleep walking. Oh, if you poke them they'll mumble and move and pull their string and you get a few canned, programmed, cliches. However, the numbers of us willing to confront the truth represent a minority in our society. Your average sonambulist lives in a haze where the truth melds into lies and the lies become the dominant view - simply by sheer repetition and other more sophisticated manipulations (anyone who thinks a television broadcast is not a carrier for other "information" is woefully naive and ill informed as to the technologies in use). Anyone who thinks that the government subsidized all of those converter boxes for digital television out of the goodness of their cold evil hearts is living in a fantasy land where "Alice Through The Looking Glass" is reality. It is useful here to explain the concept of heterodyning. Heterodyning, to give a simplified explanation for those not trained in radio and electronics, means essentially to imprint one signal upon another. This is how radio and television signals are transmitted. You have one powerful broadcast signal called the carrier and then the information to be transmitted is piggybacked onto the powerful carrier which is then transmitted via antenna tower or cable. This allows for a cleaner and clearer picture or sound. It is easier to show than to explain, but think of a smooth alternating curve (called a Sine Wave) of constant size and wavelength (the distance between two peaks of the wave is how that is measured) which is continuously moving from peak to valley over and over and over again. This is the curve you see if you look at an alternating current of an electric power line's signal. Radio and TV are much the same but simply done at a much higher rate of oscillation (the frequency of oscillation or just frequency for short). The piggybacked signal can be anything you want it to be from a television picture and sound to mood control frequencies that can affect how you feel - everything from happiness to depression. As well it becomes child's play to implant subliminal images which operate below the normal level of awareness but have a subconscious affect upon the viewer. The subconscious image has to be rather simple but by repetition it has an effect. For example the subliminal transmission of someone dressed a certain way killing someone - say an Arab killing a baby. So, the heterodyned information affects people without their normal analytical awareness cutting in and saying "this is not real". The same can be (and likely is) done with other frequencies that affect mood and even awareness. Ever notice how some tones in recordings, particularly in New Age Music, put you into a changed mental state - they make you feel good or appear to create a heightened awareness - it is usually a mild trance or euphoria (thus the "New Age" genre of "Trance Music"). Alex Jones has actually spoken of his visit to the lab at the University of Texas where he saw some of the researchers, under government grants of course, studying and experimenting with this type of technology. Very useful stuff if your aim is to control the reactions and behavior of a large population. Television access is now essentially universal and it is a rare household without at least 1 TV and most have more than 1. Thus we can see why the digital converter boxes were so important. The greater bandwidth of digital transmission allows splitting frequencies and including more information, both the seen and unseen. For example with the advent of digital transmission my local National Public Bilgecasting station now offers several alternate transmissions (channels) all carried on the same carrier frequency. The tuner just just does the job of tuning out all of the signals you don't want and just letting through the one you do want. So, if they can split one channel into several with digital transmission that means they can also include all sorts of "other stuff", on that greatly increased band width, at the same time e.g., mood control frequencies and subliminal images. So, it also becomes clear why the digital changeover could not allow the continued broadcast of the older style signal and why the government dictated the design of the converter (thus it lets through the frequencies they want as well). And that kiddies is WHY we have digital TV. By the way the same thing can be done with the electrical signal to your home being used as the carrier wave and thus transmitting signals which are unseen and not directly perceived but nevertheless present. Oh, and by the way, there is really no need for a separate cable for cable TV as it could all be transmitted over the power lines - phone too - just by using the power signal as the carrier. My guess that the only reason that is not already done is to keep people unaware of just how far the technology has advanced. That way signals you are completely unaware of can be transmitted over the power lines affecting people's behavior whether they have a TV on or not. Now a good engineer could build a filter to remove all of this, but you have to first be aware it is there before that thought even occurs. The other way to reduce, but not entirely eliminate, the powerline radiation is by shielding it, and you can currently by products that do, do that. However, again you have to be aware first before it makes sense. Of course it makes sense to shield the lines anyway as being bathed in the signal alone appears to have adverse affects. We just don't notice it because we are used to it, but remove it, such as in a power outage, and you notice the "quiet". So, returning to final short point: We live in a society that is under constant manipulation from damn near every angle. What makes it so insidious, and effective, is that most people are completely unaware of it or even that the potential exists.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
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That's it in a Nutshell. From the Article: "Personally, after countless hours of consideration, I’ve decided that whichever is the result, it will shape the destiny of our social evolution for generations, and so, as bitter the medicine may be, and as challenging and dire as it may come to pass, one should not let others sell the soul of humanity for momentary material comforts, nor allow the virtues on which the US was built to be destroyed by complicit greed. Though you may not have been involved in the attack, compliance through silence is still guilt. It is always better for us to seek the truth" It's not going to get us anywhere constructive to shoot at that messenger like they're PsyOps. A Gingerbread Man is what they call themself at their site. Ignoring the issues mentioned won't make them go away. They've always been there and probably were part of the 9/11 scheme from the get go. Don't expose the Truth and they win. Expose the Truth and they plan to win bigger by demolishing America and maybe the rest of the world too. Surely we've all read through the years, especially since 9/11, that America's system of government is so corrupt that we should get a new one. But America's government is the Constitution and not the rogues in it who have wreaked such havoc. That is what we and the world need to keep in mind to minimize the impact on economies and societal functioning.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
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moral and educated bump
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
Either way, James Madison I believe is the one that said that our Constitution was made for a moral people and that it was unsuitable for any other. Our morality has faded like the twilight and continues to dim begging the questioning of whether it can even be adequately resurrected. As well, and what many people miss, is that the Constitution is not some sort of magical document, it merely iterates the notion that men were born free and should live free and provides a societal framework for that to occur. What percentage of honest to goodness Americans would be willing to live under a constitution with no transfer payments for school loans, SS and Medicare, free methadone, research and frivolous art grants, national parks and wildlife refuges, federally funded labor protectionism, or tax deductible "tithes" to religious corporations and for resettling Russian Jews in Israel, The Tennessee Valley Authority, Rural Electrification and Telephone Acts, federal intervention in the allocation of school districts funds for blacks, etc.,.? We may find that the few Americans who truly understand what living within the boundaries of the constitution would mean and who would still want that could be isolated and confined by one AZ sheriff in his tent city, and the rest of the "democratic majority" could continue to ignore the constitution and the "fanatics" who want to kill their golden geese. Again I write, "Our best hope is total collapse because if put to a vote we'll end up posting to each other on Lew Rockwell's site until these precious words and the noble concepts they represent fall into disuse and are forgotten".
Lyndon's Great Society has really sucked for most in this country. Many of us are sick to death of having to fund it, and all the other insanities of fed.gov. People are tired of the bullshiite.
I doubt that less than 1/10 of 1/100 of people have. Most people are totally unaware even that such stuff is possible let alone well developed.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
That would mean an some kind of overthrow the government and the prosecution of those involved. But, if Israel was the primary nation involved in 9/11, that would mean all out war between the US and Israel. So it is not hard to understand why Alex Jones, and many others are not pointing the finger of blame at Israel but rather the vague elite in the USA. Israel is putting out propaganda that it was a US inside job to cover-up their major role in 9/11. Alex Jones is putting out propaganda for the ones who did 9/11. This article itself is more propaganda for those that did 9/11.
God is always good!
@ 15:00 mins. cable box cameras mentioned: What is a Fusion Center? Information Sharing? & Why do They Threaten Freedom? http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=I_ttfMb_hMg
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
But, if Israel was the primary nation involved in 9/11, that would mean all out war between the US and Israel. So it is not hard to understand why Alex Jones, and many others are not pointing the finger of blame at Israel but rather the vague elite in the USA. Israel is putting out propaganda that it was a US inside job to cover-up their major role in 9/11. The elites are relatively easy to name even if we cannot, at this time, pin the crime on them. They have names like Rothschild, Rockefeller, Warburg, Brown, Harriman, Hapsburg, and the Dutch Royal House. It would have been impossible for Israel to do this alone. There were too many activities that took place that could only have been done with U.S. complicity. I don't know how many times I have to point that out, but every time you come back and provide an escape hatch for the Americans who took part. The Patriot Act alone is a dead giveaway. You do not write a complex 342 page bill in one week. It was setting on the shelf and ready to go. Certainly the Israelis were involved and aware. That is how the elites were able to carry out some of the dirty grunt work without having a bunch of leaks - use Israeli nationals with no loyalty to the U.S.. However, Israel's involvement was likely not as the prime mover but as a support role. Further there had to be involvement within the Pentagram to insure the people they wanted snuffed were chosen and placed at the impact point for the Pentagon Plane (or whatever it was). There are too many elements not within Israel's control for them to have done it alone, and it had to be done with complicity at the highest levels of the U.S. Power Structure. I repeat Israel did not do it alone they were not even the main element. I repeat Israel did not do it alone they were not even the main element. I repeat Israel did not do it alone they were not even the main element. I repeat Israel did not do it alone they were not even the main element. I repeat Israel did not do it alone they were not even the main element. I repeat Israel did not do it alone they were not even the main element. Kapisch?
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
You can repeat something to hell freezes and it still doesn't make it true. Really! Israel was the ONLY nation that benefited from 9/11. THE ONLY DAMN ONE! Israeli apologists make me sick.
God is always good!
Whatever. I can see you have fixation and facts will not matter. If you cannot follow the chain of evidence well ... And given the amount of time I have spent exposing Israeli crimes calling me an Israeli apologist is kind of like calling Rush Limbaugh a Democrat apologist. Have a nice day duuuuuuuuuuuuude.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
RickyJ: That would mean an some kind of overthrow the government and the prosecution of those involved. But, if Israel was the primary nation involved in 9/11, that would mean all out war between the US and Israel. So it is not hard to understand why Alex Jones, and many others are not pointing the finger of blame at Israel but rather the vague elite in the USA. Israel is putting out propaganda that it was a US inside job to cover-up their major role in 9/11. Alex Jones is putting out propaganda for the ones who did 9/11. This article itself is more propaganda for those that did 9/11. The article was posted at whatreallyhappened.com Oct 08 12:50 via a copy of it at the [redacted] news site. Whatever anyone thinks of the author and their motives, the issues are hazardous and the guy even stopped short of ramifications to Military morale, as well as public reactions here and worldwide to their being misused. Many people might not care about that or might be glad if most of the world turned against them, as long as they don't personally need any Military back-up themselves, but Israel's corner would probably be more than happy to posture like it's their only ally. Dual-citizen Israelis comprise so much of our so-called "elite" population and governmental positions that Alex Jones or whoever pointing to 9/11 as an Inside Job surely doesn't exclude Israel and it's affiliates from suspected complicity. If one of the objectives of 9/11 was, as I suspect, to agitate and prod Americans into overthrowing our Constitutional Republic as a dismal failure irreparably infested with the corrupt and insidious, Israel's affiliates might prefer we just have a "civil" war here amongst ourselves and achieve that objective for them but expect that they could win with massive devastation here to their benefit if it was expanded to a war against Israel too for its involvement in 9/11. The point is, we should be building "lifeboats" and "bridges", of a sort, anyway to help people transition to our rightful system of Constitutional government and a viable economy. What do people here who stand with the Constitution think we should do along those lines, if anything, and what do those opposed to the Constitution have in mind? Everybody can't afford to invest in gold and silver and that's in short supply even if we all could so that won't do as a realistic suggestion.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
I think what many people miss is that it's not intended to provide a societal framework for its enemies. Of course they don't want to abide by it and and don't want us to live free and we don't have to accomodate them here or count them among us as Americans.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Many of us are sick to death of having to fund it, and all the other insanities of fed.gov. People are tired of the bullshiite. We shouldn't have to fund anything UnConstitutional. Ron Paul's district is the only place in America where Constitutionalists aren't being taxed without representation. His district is being wrongfully taxed too because no Constitutionalists are supposed to have to compete votewise with enemy invaders of our system. The people who can understand that and agree are the ones we can work with to build our own society free from those divisions. Others might see the light eventually but no need to wait for them to wake up. They can try to apply for qualified membership later if they ever get properly educated about our Republic.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
The Constitution isn't some optional thing that needs their approval at all. Legitimacy isn't about who has the most numbers. If they outnumbered us a million or more to one, they would still have zero legitimacy here. America is entirely our property, not their's to do with as they want. Deeds don't change the fact that it remains American land under the jurisdiction of American government and their form of government is an illegal alien.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
My experiences are that very few people are truly independent thinkers. The first clue when discussing with people is how open/receptive one is to ideas of others upon first hearing them. That's the problem with politics and political "teams," the sheople first assess which "side" someone is on and then plan their counterattack leaving no middle ground/room for compromise or notion that perhaps they need to rethink things. Imagine a system where the truly excellent and gifted are paid well to teach, and truly gifted students are recognized and elevated to student teaching/research positions instead of being stuffed into molds where mediocrity is the presumed norm. Under our system gifted students are often bored or oppressed until they become disciplinary problems because they simply do not fit a program intended to guarantee predictable results from genetic underachievers, victims of fetal alcohol syndrome or some other low common denominator. And for added safety the system manages to cram 2 hrs of education into 7 hours of classroom sitting in case a majority would otherwise be inclined to accidentally excel. Of course under my dream system many of the established truths we're taught would soon be challenged and disproven and the power would switch from those with the juice to those with the gifts. No more thimerosal, fluoride, DU, aspartame, chemtrails, flammable tap water, Morgellon's patients being told their ailments are psychosomatic, "plutonium chloride aka FD&C muave No. 69" or Chinese toxic waste in teething rings, etc.,. And Royal Rife, Harry Hoxsey, Nikola Tesla, Stanley Allen Meyer and others would be our heroes instead of intentionally excised and forgotten threats to sociopathic, corporate dominant kinkos.
You're absolutely right of course. And as long as you (and I) harmlessly hold that minority view and don't threaten the system by effectively disseminating it you (and I) will be fine. I've known two people personally who starting having an impact (Armen Condo and Irwin Schiff) and the God-cursed govt arranged long prison terms for both. Schiff refused to buckle so they actually banned individuals (at least those under the court's jurisdiction) from selling his books and instituted a blatant "political prisoner policy" just to accommodate him. Based on my empirical observations for 26 years it is my belief that the enemy will have to be beaten into full retreat before these truths can or will be widely taught and discussed. As long as the evil govt has the power we will continue to see one car accidents, plane crashes and suicides (by those who made points of telling all that they would never kill themselves) to keep that evil in power. You'll never hear the enemy say, "Conscience won't allow me to move to the next level of unthinkable crimes to keep the people **ignorant of my treason." (**actually so cowardly Americans, 'Tories' who really know the truth have plausible deniability) If govt types will lie to you then they will kill you to cover up their lies, and this is the case with those who simply want to protect their jobs. You can expect added zeal from those who would be facing execution if exposed. So, I'm sorry to say that it's not just a point of clarification but is in fact a big part of the problem; the truth is no longer apparent or even welcome in many areas of polite society and it's not without risk that we effectively speak or write it. Fortunately, the govt seems to regard this and other sites as political playpens where we continue to harmlessly thrash about for the moment, at least until the night raids begin and/or the internet is seized for "crimes against the Jewish people and the ruling Israeli junta."
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#2. To: GreyLmist (#0)
#3. To: GreyLmist (#0)
#4. To: All (#0)
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#5. To: Lod, Original_Intent, Eric Stratton, all (#3)
#6. To: GreyLmist (#0)
#7. To: Original_Intent (#2)
#8. To: GreyLmist, 4 (#5)
Let's start building a better future now so that people can move to Truth and Liberty without being devastated, adrift, and impoverished.
#9. To: Lod, All (#3)
#10. To: GreyLmist (#5)
#11. To: Lod (#8)
#12. To: Lod (#8)
somnambulism
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#13. To: Esso, 4 (#12)
somnambulism
#14. To: Eric Stratton, GreyLmist, Original_Intent (#6)
How long can a society/civilization live in a charade environment where fantasy continues to trump reality? That should be the question!
#15. To: Eric Stratton (#11)
"It's almost as if people actually prefer to live w/o knowledge of the truth." ]
#16. To: ndcorup (#15)
#17. To: GreyLmist (#0)
What would happen if an alternative 911 theory was proven as fact?
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#18. To: GreyLmist, Lod, ratcat, christine, wudidiz, Eric Stratton, Twenty Twelve, farmfriend, abraxas, Scrapper2, Lod, CadetD, Kamala, James Deffenbach, HighLairEon, Jethro Tull, all (#5)
Let's start building a better future now so that people can move to Truth and Liberty without being devastated, adrift, and impoverished.
#19. To: Original_Intent (#18)
#20. To: ndcorup, Eric Stratton, Original_Intent, Lod, Esso, HOUNDDAWG, Artisan, all (#15)
"I have to give credit to the 911 perpetrators for coming up with the ultimate tool to get away with it: they are simply black-mailing us with life as we know it." -- From the Article.
#21. To: GreyLmist (#20)
#22. To: All (#20)
#23. To: Eric Stratton (#22)
#24. To: Lod (#23)
#25. To: Eric Stratton (#21)
The size and influence of the FedGov is what needs to be demolished/abolished.
#26. To: Eric Stratton (#24)
#27. To: Eric Stratton (#19)
I'd never given a second thought to the bandwidth/subliminal thing.
#28. To: HOUNDDAWG (#25)
#29. To: Lod (#26)
#30. To: Original_Intent (#27)
#31. To: GreyLmist (#0)
if it actually was undeniably illustrated that the US government was involved at some level in the events of 911
#32. To: Original_Intent (#18)
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#33. To: RickyJ (#31)
That would mean an some kind of overthrow the government and the prosecution of those involved.
I repeat Israel did not do it alone they were not even the main element.
I repeat Israel did not do it alone they were not even the main element.
I repeat Israel did not do it alone they were not even the main element.
I repeat Israel did not do it alone they were not even the main element.
I repeat Israel did not do it alone they were not even the main element.
I repeat Israel did not do it alone they were not even the main element.
I repeat Israel did not do it alone they were not even the main element.
I repeat Israel did not do it alone they were not even the main element.
I repeat Israel did not do it alone they were not even the main element.
I repeat Israel did not do it alone they were not even the main element.
I repeat Israel did not do it alone they were not even the main element.
I repeat Israel did not do it alone they were not even the main element.
I repeat Israel did not do it alone they were not even the main element.
I repeat Israel did not do it alone they were not even the main element.
I repeat Israel did not do it alone they were not even the main element.
I repeat Israel did not do it alone they were not even the main element.
I repeat Israel did not do it alone they were not even the main element.
I repeat Israel did not do it alone they were not even the main element.
I repeat Israel did not do it alone they were not even the main element.
I repeat Israel did not do it alone they were not even the main element.
I repeat Israel did not do it alone they were not even the main element.
I repeat Israel did not do it alone they were not even the main element.
I repeat Israel did not do it alone they were not even the main element.
#34. To: Original_Intent (#33)
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I repeat Israel did not do it alone they were not even the main element.
#35. To: RickyJ (#34)
#36. To: RickyJ, all (#31)
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Article: if it actually was undeniably illustrated that the US government was involved at some level in the events of 911
#37. To: Eric Stratton (#22)
As well, and what many people miss, is that the Constitution is not some sort of magical document, it merely iterates the notion that men were born free and should live free and provides a societal framework for that to occur.
#38. To: Lod (#26)
Lyndon's Great Society has really sucked for most in this country.
#39. To: HOUNDDAWG (#25)
We may find that the few Americans who truly understand what living within the boundaries of the constitution would mean and who would still want that could be isolated and confined by one AZ sheriff in his tent city, and the rest of the "democratic majority" could continue to ignore the constitution and the "fanatics" who want to kill their golden geese.
#40. To: GreyLmist (#37)
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#41. To: Eric Stratton (#28)
The moral undermining of the U.S. has been most successful ad the edumacation campaign that starts in the K-12 pubic school system, continues in college, again, at the expense of the sheople, and then becomes ingrained via owned entertainment and media systems.
#42. To: GreyLmist (#39)
The Constitution isn't some optional thing that needs their approval at all. Legitimacy isn't about who has the most numbers. If they outnumbered us a million or more to one, they would still have zero legitimacy here. America is entirely our property, not theirs to do with as they want. Deeds don't change the fact that it remains American land under the jurisdiction of American government and their form of government is an illegal alien.
#43. To: HOUNDDAWG (#41)
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