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Title: War for Artifacts?
Source: youtube
URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsrqAnKYNOM&feature=related
Published: Aug 03, 2008
Author: youtube
Post Date: 2010-10-10 22:02:00 by Flintlock
Keywords: None
Views: 334
Comments: 33


Poster Comment:

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Why would we loot the National Museum of Iraq? There was something there they didn't want us to see or know. It was another inside job.

Praise Jeebus!

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#1. To: Flintlock (#0)

Whenever you see Lloyd Pye, stop listening. The man is a complete and utter fraud. I know this for a fact, FIRST HAND.

The man doesn't even have a degree in any kind of history, let alone the bs he writes about in his crappy books.

It is better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not. - Tommy The Mad Artist.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2010-10-11   0:30:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#1)

Whenever you see Lloyd Pye, stop listening.

You've got mail

WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)

Flintlock  posted on  2010-10-11   0:46:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#1)

Whenever you see Lloyd Pye, stop listening. The man is a complete and utter fraud. I know this for a fact, FIRST HAND.

The man doesn't even have a degree in any kind of history, let alone the bs he writes about in his crappy books.

I find the Starchild thing a bit iffy.. but there is truth in a lot of what he says elsewhere.

From Blank Cheque Ireland... to Bounced Cheque Ireland.

irishthatcherite  posted on  2010-10-11   0:51:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Flintlock (#0)

Here's an interesting article from way back concerning how the Sumarian Ziggurat of Ur in Iraq was made off limits and a huge airfield built next to it..

Troops 'vandalise' ancient city of Ur


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-10-11   10:19:09 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Flintlock (#0)

Praise Jeebus!

somebody wanted to steal the artifacts likely for religious reasons. but these are not christian artifacts.

Psalms 137:1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-10-11   10:32:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Flintlock (#2)

So do you.

It is better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not. - Tommy The Mad Artist.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2010-10-11   11:19:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: irishthatcherite (#3)

Only because the truth he's speaking is ripped off from someone else. This genre of study where UFO's are concerned, is pseudo-science, where nothing can be proved, and everything is borrowed from someone else. DO NOT BELIEVE A WORD HE SPEAKS. It's all BS, and more than likely he wrote none of it.

He is a failed SCI-FI writer, nothing else.

It is better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not. - Tommy The Mad Artist.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2010-10-11   11:20:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Red Jones, FormerLurker (#5)

these are not christian artifacts.

They predate Jeebus by 4,000 years and that's the point.

According to the Sumerian Texts as translated by Sitchin, the Human Race was created not by a benevolent "god' but by a race of ETs called the Anunaki who used us as slaves.

I'll be busy most of today and probably all day tomorrow so I won't be able to reply to questions, or debate the topic, but Google up Sitchin and read what he has to say. He's one of the few who is able to read Sumerian and has dedicated his life to study and translation.

IMO, the Iraqi Museum housed new untranslated tablets that contained (among other things) information that would shake and destroy "modern" religions. This info had to be contained at all costs.

Later

WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)

Flintlock  posted on  2010-10-11   11:29:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#7)

Only because the truth he's speaking is ripped off from someone else. This genre of study where UFO's are concerned, is pseudo-science, where nothing can be proved, and everything is borrowed from someone else. DO NOT BELIEVE A WORD HE SPEAKS. It's all BS, and more than likely he wrote none of it.

You really have a thing against the possibility of extraterrestrial (or extradimensional) life, don't you.

Why is that? Something spook you along the way, and you're trying to erase it from your mind?

The fact is, what this person says is absolutely true, where the Sumerian civilization DID in fact write about the Anunnaki, ie. "gods" from the stars, and more specifically, the planet they called Nibiru.

Our history goes MUCH further back than just 6000 years ago, but apparently all written records from that time have been destroyed, or hidden away in some vault.

Yet, there are ancient artifacts such as metal hammers found in rocks that have been dated to be 75 - 100 MILLION years old.

Ancient Metal Hammer


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-10-11   11:29:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#8)

~~ping~~

WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)

Flintlock  posted on  2010-10-11   11:37:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#7) (Edited)

Tommy, would you be able to tell me in which country this statue is located?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-10-11   11:39:32 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Flintlock (#8)

IMO, the Iraqi Museum housed new untranslated tablets that contained (among other things) information that would shake and destroy "modern" religions. This info had to be contained at all costs.

Agreed.

I'd look for them in the vatican secret archives, where they probably keep many other things that would, if known, destroy christianity and probably judaism and islam too, but when known to the insiders it gives them power over us "little people".

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-10-11   11:52:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#7)

Could well be. Personally, I prefer Michael Cremo or Graham Hancock, I don't have any books from either man, but I've read some fascinating stuff from them online.

From Blank Cheque Ireland... to Bounced Cheque Ireland.

irishthatcherite  posted on  2010-10-11   12:45:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: FormerLurker (#9)

Wow! Staring us right in the face! That is a hammer no doubt and that is a piece of rock it's embedded in no doubt! Absolute proof of Extreme Human Antiquity!

I notice, though, the one commenter makes what at first glance appears to be a good point "I was wondering if anyone tried to do carbon-14 tests on the wooden handle? The fact that it was buried so deep could mean that there was a mine underground and that it was left in the mine shaft before it collapsed. So it may not be as old as you think. Just a thought" - except he neglects the fact that the hammer is EMBEDDED in rock, and thus not left by some miner in more recent times.

From Blank Cheque Ireland... to Bounced Cheque Ireland.

irishthatcherite  posted on  2010-10-11   12:51:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: irishthatcherite, TommyTheMadArtist (#13) (Edited)

Who the hell is Tommy talking about, who is this "Lloyd Pie"? This article is simply about a video somebody made which included a radio interview of somebody stating that ancient artifacts have been stolen from the National Museum of Iraq.

The fact is, there ARE some VERY interesting things concerning the Sumerians, such as how or why they were more advanced than many later civilizations. Their stories of the Annunaki are a bit interesting as well...

The Annunaki and the Myth of a 12th Planet

Tommy seems to be quite frightened of such things, and instantly dismisses any talk of advanced civilizations from other worlds as fantasy or "sci-fi".


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-10-11   13:06:39 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: irishthatcherite (#14)

except he neglects the fact that the hammer is EMBEDDED in rock, and thus not left by some miner in more recent times.

Exactly.

Plus, density tests of the hammerhead indicate that the metal casting contains no bubbles, which is difficult or impossible for modern industry to achieve even today.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-10-11   13:11:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: FormerLurker (#15)

I've heard the name here and there over the years, but only gave attention to his views on a thread a couple of weeks ago, here is his website:

www.lloydpye.com/

From Blank Cheque Ireland... to Bounced Cheque Ireland.

irishthatcherite  posted on  2010-10-11   13:27:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Flintlock (#0)

I certainly DO recall reading/hearing about the looting back in 2003. An interesting take on it though I don't think that was the primary objective (which was to destabilize the region). I also vehemently disagree with the note at the end about how we are doing good over there.

The guy must be an Art Bell listener.

Democrats don't mind war as long as they can have big government. Republicans don't mind big government as long as they can have war.

PnbC  posted on  2010-10-11   13:29:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: FormerLurker (#16)

Exactly.

Plus, density tests of the hammerhead indicate that the metal casting contains no bubbles, which is difficult or impossible for modern industry to achieve even today.

Hmmm, it would be interesting to see if there are fewer point/linear/planar defects in it than in modern metal too. If that is that case.. we would be looking at a stronger piece of metal. And very advanced technology too.

From Blank Cheque Ireland... to Bounced Cheque Ireland.

irishthatcherite  posted on  2010-10-11   13:29:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: irishthatcherite, TommyTheMadArtist (#17)

www.lloydpye.com

Thanks, fascinating stuff about the alien DNA found in that skull.

I should also thank Tommy for pointing out the guy's name.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-10-11   13:40:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: PnbC (#18)

I certainly DO recall reading/hearing about the looting back in 2003.

Yep, same here. It's a documented and reported fact that it occured.

Interestingly, it's been reported that the "loot" was found, then lost, then found again...

Who knows what really happened, or if the "found" loot is the original loot.

Artifacts smuggled out of Iraq, recovered and lost again are found in prime minister's storage


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-10-11   13:44:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: FormerLurker (#20)

Thanks, fascinating stuff about the alien DNA found in that skull.

I tend to be more skeptical myself of the ET side of it, but I could be wrong.

From Blank Cheque Ireland... to Bounced Cheque Ireland.

irishthatcherite  posted on  2010-10-11   13:55:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: irishthatcherite (#22)

I tend to be more skeptical myself of the ET side of it, but I could be wrong.

Did you see that picture I posted in post 11? I was waiting for Tommy to answer, but it doesn't look like he's going to.

It is an image taken of Mars.

Here's a YouTube video on it...


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-10-11   14:00:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: FormerLurker (#23) (Edited)

Yes, I've seen it before - on the crop circle thread last week I believe. I substitute "alien" with "demon" when we see such things. As likely these things are of a supernatural origin as an extra terrestrial one.

Edit: With anomolous artifacts, I believe those to be man-made.

From Blank Cheque Ireland... to Bounced Cheque Ireland.

irishthatcherite  posted on  2010-10-11   14:08:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: irishthatcherite (#24)

Here's more info on the statue if you're interested...

EGYPTIAN STATUE

As far as "demons", that implies a sinister and evil being. If these beings were in fact sinister and evil, they would have wiped us out eons ago.

Perhaps there is more than just one civilization coming here, where some could be malevolent. If so, those who have been here for millenia might very well be protecting us, who knows.

However, the very term "demon" implies a supernatural force which comes from somewhere other than here. Just as we would appear to be "gods" or "demons" to a very primitive society, those who are MUCH more advanced than us would appear to be "gods" or "demons" to some.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-10-11   14:21:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: FormerLurker (#25)

However, the very term "demon" implies a supernatural force which comes from somewhere other than here. Just as we would appear to be "gods" or "demons" to a very primitive society, those who are MUCH more advanced than us would appear to be "gods" or "demons" to some.

Maybe, maybe not. I dunno.

Anyway, thanks for the link, it shows that up a lot clearer, I wasn't sure what I was looking at with the other photos, that is very interesting.

From Blank Cheque Ireland... to Bounced Cheque Ireland.

irishthatcherite  posted on  2010-10-11   14:25:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: irishthatcherite (#26)

Anyway, thanks for the link, it shows that up a lot clearer, I wasn't sure what I was looking at with the other photos, that is very interesting.

Here's an even better link, it's the NASA page that contains a link to the full resolution image.

PIA10210: Details of Layers in Victoria Crater's Cape St. Vincent


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-10-11   14:31:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: FormerLurker (#25)

If these beings were in fact sinister and evil, they would have wiped us out eons ago.

They came here to teach. Look up "Enki" that some equate to being "Satan", and the Book of Enoch goes into what they taught when they came here.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enki

They were made into "sinister and evil demons" by kikes, and later, by xtians and probably muslims too.

Just as we would appear to be "gods" or "demons" to a very primitive society, those who are MUCH more advanced than us would appear to be "gods" or "demons" to some.

Exactly.

.


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-10-11   14:35:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: FormerLurker (#27)

ere's an even better link, it's the NASA page that contains a link to the full resolution image.

PIA10210: Details of Layers in Victoria Crater's Cape St. Vincent

When you see "PIA" in the image name, you know there's huge image to be downloaded. lol Thanks for that, very interesting. :)

From Blank Cheque Ireland... to Bounced Cheque Ireland.

irishthatcherite  posted on  2010-10-11   14:46:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: irishthatcherite (#29)

Thanks for that, very interesting. :)

You're welcome.

If you probe around the image (download the TIFF, there's minimal compression artifacts), you might find a few other things that look a bit out of place for the Martian surface.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-10-11   15:01:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: PSUSA (#28)

They were made into "sinister and evil demons" by kikes, and later, by xtians and probably muslims too.

Actually, Arabs believe in a race of beings known as the Jinn


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-10-11   15:03:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: FormerLurker (#30)

You're welcome.

If you probe around the image (download the TIFF, there's minimal compression artifacts), you might find a few other things that look a bit out of place for the Martian surface.

I saw one of those before - what was officially described as an outcrop of rock, but resembling a stand alone statue.

From Blank Cheque Ireland... to Bounced Cheque Ireland.

irishthatcherite  posted on  2010-10-11   15:06:11 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: FormerLurker (#21)

if the "found" loot is the original loot.

prolly not

I'm sure we got the old switch-a-roo

WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)

Flintlock  posted on  2010-10-11   17:50:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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