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Title: WHAT RADICAL MAN HATING FEMINISTS WANT
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Published: Oct 11, 2010
Author: Alan Stang
Post Date: 2010-10-11 12:07:29 by Turtle
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In the last chapter of this series about the Womanoid Movement, we saw that in general it says the same thing as the Communist Manifesto. It wants chaos and Communism. But we need to nail that conclusion down, to make sure we are not just talking about something lifelong parasite and abuser of women Karl Marx said more than 150 years ago; we need to see what today’s womanoids believe. If they believe something different, it doesn’t matter what the lifelong parasite who impregnated the family maid said. For instance, there is Simone de Beauvoir, the French woman whose husband was Existentialist philosopher Jean-Paul Sartre. His chef d’oeuvre was Being and Nothingness, which is all you really need to know about it because existentialists were “Gnostic atheists,” a phrase I am inventing here, so you don’t need to look it up. They weren’t absolutely certain they existed, and, sure enough, by now they have disappeared, which probably proves they didn’t. In The Second Sex (New York, Alfred A. Knopf, 1993), Simone de Beauvoir wrote as follows: “A world where men and women would be equal is easy to visualize, for that precisely is what the Soviet Revolution promised . . .” (p. 760) And that was what she wanted. We have already dispatched at length the preposterous notion that the sexes could be equal. Simone de Beauvoir told Saturday Review this (June 14, 1974, p. 18): "No woman should be authorized to stay at home to raise her children. Society should be totally different. Women should not have that choice, precisely because if there is such a choice, too many women will make that one." Let that sink in, ladies. Simone de Beauvoir, whom today’s womanoids everywhere worship, says women should not be allowed to stay home. She says they should be driven out by force. They shouldn’t be allowed to choose, because, she knows, they would choose home. Freedom of choice is not an option. She doesn’t believe in freedom because she is a Marxist. So we’re not talking about “liberating” women; we’re not talking about enlarging opportunities for women, about shattering the “glass ceiling.” We’re talking about the opposite, about Marx’s “community of women,” in which women would be community property, denied privacy and choice. If women are forced out of their homes, by the government – which alone could do so – that is what you would have. Gloria Steinem, Editor of Ms. magazine, a prominent American womanoid, is the author of the dazzlingly clever remark, “A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle.” Later, she got married, and the big surprise was – to a man. Gloria also said, “Overthrowing capitalism is too small for us. We must overthrow the whole F*#@+*g patriarchy!” (Detroit Free Press, April 15, 1974) In 1977, in Houston, Gloria Steinem said, “For the sake of those who wish to live in equal partnership, we have to abolish and reform the institution of legal marriage.” How do you reform something after you abolish it? Gloria did not explain. Finally, Gloria Steinem said this: "When I was in college it was the McCarthy era and that made me a Marxist. Nothing was more clear than if Joseph McCarthy was against Marxists then I should be a Marxist. . . ." (Susan Mitchell, Icons, Saints and Divas, Sydney, HarperCollins, 1997, p. 130), Later, Gloria joined the Democratic Socialists of America. And did you know that Gloria has probably worked for CIA most of her life, a fact she has desperately tried to conceal – even threatening lawsuits – which gives her activities an even more sinister character. The conspiracy for world government – including traitors at the top like Jorge W. Boosh – has been using weapons like feminism to dismantle our civilization so it can be more easily merged, first with Mexico and Canada, then with the rest of the world. CIA recruited her in 1958. For nine years, Assistant Attorney General J. Stanley Pottinger was her paramour, and she dated Heinz Albrecht “Henry” Kissinger, a Soviet agent. Both these people may be bicycles (see above), but at least they are male bicycles. Apparently they had no problem with Gloria Steinem’s stated goal of total revolution that would turn our country upside down and neither did the top U.S. corporations that advertised in Ms. Did they advertise there because CIA told them to? Certainly one of the best known womanoids was Betty Friedan. Betty was as Communist as you can get with or without a Party card. She spent a few weeks at the Highlander Folk School, a revolutionary facility frequented by Party dignitaries like Abner W. Berry of the Central Committee of the Communist Party. "The most profound thing that happened to Betty at Smith was her radicalization. She became committed to Marxist philosophy . . . ." So says Judith Hennessee, her biographer, in Betty Friedan: Her Life (Harmondsworth: Penguin, 1999, p. 26). She contributed to the Daily Worker, the official newspaper of the Communist Party. At Berkeley, Betty consorted with Communist Party members like physicist David Bohm. Indeed, one of her lovers was J. Robert Oppenheimer, a regular contributor to the Communist Party who belonged to many Red outfits. For years, Betty Friedan was a staff reporter for UE News, published by the United Electrical, Radio and Machine Workers of America, a Communist union. In 1939, Stalin and Hitler became allies and many Party members quit in disgust. Not Betty. So Communist was she that she stayed with Stalin, Hitler’s ally. Need I add that the Prostitute National Press reported none of this? They presented her as a frustrated housewife suffering the feminine mystique, while she wrote her book in a mansion on the Hudson. Remember, we have room to cite only a few examples. Here’s another. In the SCUM Manifesto (Society for Cutting Up Men), Valerie Solana writes, "Life in this society being, at best, an utter bore and no aspect of society being at all relevant to women, there remains to civic-minded, responsible, thrill-seeking females only to overthrow the government, eliminate the money system, institute complete automation, and destroy the male sex." You are probably chuckling that this woman is obviously insane, an aberration, institutionalized for her own protection. So, let’s look at one of feminism’s leading theoreticians. That would be Catharine A. MacKinnon, professor of law. Let’s browse through her Toward a Feminist Theory of the State (Cambridge, Harvard University Press, 1989). On page 3, she quotes Heidi Hartmann and Amy Bridges, who say, “Marxism and feminism are one and that one is Marxism.” On page 63, Miss MacKinnon quotes someone named Nancy Hartsock: “I want to suggest that the women’s movement can provide the basis for building a new and authentic American socialism.” Here is an example of Miss MacKinnon’s thinking (p. 125): “. . . men say all women are whores . . . . Men see rape as intercourse . . . . Men say women desire to be degraded . . . .” Do you know any men who say that all women are whores, that sexual intercourse is rape and that women want to be degraded? I don’t. I’m sure such nutbags exist, but that is not what our professor is saying. She is saying that this is what all men think. Of course, rap music says all these things. Have the womanoids complained? Here comes my favorite. On page 127, Miss Mac says that 92.2% of women in the United States are “sexually assaulted or harassed in their lifetimes.” Needless to say, when I read this I was horrified. Such a percentage, more than nine out of ten, would mean in effect, that every woman in this country has been or will be sexually assaulted or harassed. I yelled for the Love Priestess to start packing, planning to move my women to someplace relatively safe, like Baghdad. But just in case – just in case – I consulted the footnote on page 279. There, Miss Cathy explains, “This figure was calculated at my request by Diana E.H. Russell on the random-sample data base of 930 San Francisco households . . . .” Uh, oh! San Francisco! Indeed, Miss Mac says: “The figure includes all the forms of rape or other sexual abuse or harassment surveyed, noncontact as well as contact, from gang rape by strangers and marital rape to obscene phone calls, unwanted sexual advances on the street, unwelcome requests to pose for pornography, and subjection to peeping toms and sexual exhibitionists (flashers).” So, according to our law professor (?) an obscene phone call, a request to pose for pornography and a flasher is the same thing as gang rape. Needless to say, I told the Love Priestess to stand down. It gets worse. On page 138, Miss Catharine drops a bomb: “. . . Pornography permits men to have whatever they want sexually. It is their ‘truth about sex.’ . . . From the testimony of the pornography, what men want is: women bound, women battered, women tortured, women humiliated, women degraded and defiled, women killed. . . .” You are probably thinking I have made this up. You have read it a few times, but it still says what you thought it does. By now you are probably wondering whether this woman is insane. Can she really believe that men want women tortured, even killed? Is she herself living in a Nazi porn movie? All I know is what it says here. Remember, she is allegedly a professor of law, so the ipso facto prima facie mirabile dictu presumption is that she knows what she is saying. And she’s not finished. On page 140, she quotes someone named Andrea Dworkin, who says pornography “reveals that male pleasure is inextricably tied to victimizing, hurting, exploiting.” Indeed, says Catharine MacKinnon, “death is the ultimate sexual act.” Yes, that is what she says. Should I repeat it? “Death is the ultimate sexual act.” So this is clearly someone as crazy as Valerie Solana. Andrea Dworkin herself spoke at M.I.T. on September 26, 1975. She said, “The cultural institutions which embody and enforce those interlocked aberrations – for instance, law, art, religion, nation-states, the family, tribe, or commune based on father-right – these institutions are real and they must be destroyed.” Quoted in Our Blood: Prophecies and Discourses on Sexual Politics, Chapter 9, “The Root Cause.” Dworkin was of course a militant dyke. Then there is Mary Jo Bane, another Harvard professor. She was Assistant Secretary for Children and Families in HHS during the Clinton Administration. Could you believe there is such a thing? There is. So you should not be surprised that, according to Dr. Bane, “We really don’t know how to raise children. If we want to talk about equality of opportunity for children, then the fact that children are raised in families means there’s no equality. . . . In order to raise children with equality, we must take them away from families and communally raise them.” The amazing fact is that Dr. Bane apparently is not a dyke, but I don’t know whether she has children of her own. Raising children “communally” is a polite way of saying the government should raise them, and Hillaroid agrees (It Takes a Village). Isn’t that what the Communists and Nazis tried to do? Why should we think we could get a different result here? Isn’t two plus two four everywhere? Along these lines, there is Professing Feminism: Cautionary Tales from the Strange World of Women’s Studies (Daphne Patai and Noretta Koertge, New York, Basic Books, 1994), where we find the following characterization of modern feminism: “. . . Our culture, including all that we are taught in schools and universities, is so infused with patriarchal thinking that it must be torn up root and branch if genuine change is to occur. Everything must go – even the allegedly universal disciplines of logic, mathematics, and science, and the intellectual values of objectivity, clarity, and precision on which the former depend.” (P. 116) It is important to understand that the above remarks are not aberrations. They are not at all departures from the womanoid mainstream. On the contrary, they are typical of what today’s womanoids believe. We have been feasting at the womanoid breast, however sour the milk. What have we found? The womanoid “movement” is profoundly insane. It is as alien to normal women as it is to normal men. It is conducted by crazy women who hate everyone, including themselves, crazy women who want to destroy our civilization and country completely and erect a totalitarian dictatorship on the wreckage. That is why the conspiracy for world government (run by men) has been advancing it. They need to destroy those things in order to submerge us, first in a regional government including Canada and Mexico, then in a world government. Right now, they are using the womanoids – and the sodomites – for that purpose. What these crazy women don’t know is that, if the conspirators win, they will put the womanoids in their place, where they will reminisce about how good it is now.
Poster Comment: I have noticed many women have been driven into the workplace. I have also noticed a lot of hateful unmarried women. The two are related.
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#1. To: Turtle (#0)
Really stylish vibrators?
None of this affects me, or anyone else not plugged into their system. All of this is like water off a ducks back. They can have whatever movements they want. And if they get pissed off because no man wants them because of their bullshit, then let them have cats! Lots and lots of cats. I sleep well. Women are not equal to men, when it comes to abilities. They are equal to men, when it comes to value. Unless, of course, they devalue themselves by deluding themselves into thinking that they are equal to us in abilities. . .
Title: WHAT RADICAL MAN HATING FEMINISTS WANT
#2. To: Turtle (#0)
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files
The second dumbest creature on the face of the earth is the one who cannot recognize its enemies. The most stupid of all is the one who will defend and collaborate with the very enemies that are destroying it and its own kind. -Ben Klassen
#3. To: PSUSA (#2)
I have found more than one cat -- and sometimes even just one -- is a red flag for a single women, especially when they are middle-aged.
Lots and lots of cats.
"If ever this vast country is brought under a single government, it will be one of the most extensive corruption, indifferent and incapable of a wholesome care over so wide a spread of surface. This will not be borne, and you will have to choose between reform and revolution. If I know the spirit of this country, the one or the other is inevitable." - Thomas Jefferson
#4. To: Turtle (#0) (Edited)
Kudos, Turd old buddy. All joking and ribbing aside a masterful essay thanks for bringing it to the table. The only thing I don't think Mr. Stang spent enough time with is the CIA angle. As that traces back to the Nazi Psychiatrists working in the CIA mind control programs. Feminism, while the quotes and instances given are very illuminating, is not so much a Marxist creation, although that element is very prominent in feminist dogma, but that the entire movement was created as an overlay on the the women's equality movement, and the two are not the same. Contrast the following two quotes: Notice the timeline. Which came first? The Psychiatric war against the family or the feminists? Feminism was a movement begun in the 60's, almost 20 years after the first quote.
"The family is now one of the major obstacles to improved mental health, and hence should be weakened, if possible, so as to free individuals and especially children from the coercion of family life."
~ International Congress on Mental Health, London, 1948 "The nuclear family must be destroyed... Whatever its ultimate meaning, the break-up of families now is an objectively revolutionary process."
-- Linda Gordon
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#5. To: TooConservative (#1)
Really stylish vibrators? LOL! Harrad's in London sells some in the $2,000 dollar range. Does that answer your question?
Title: WHAT RADICAL MAN HATING FEMINISTS WANT
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#6. To: TooConservative (#1)
BOB = Battery Operated Boyfriend. Oh, and dominion over a Beta Boy, they wanna be Alphas. I had a date with a woman recently. We got to talking about dogs, she has two. I have trained many a dog, for dog sledding and just to walk around the block. I prefer The Monks of New Skeet training method. She proceeded to tell me that she 'walked' her dogs with two leashes for each dog and a training muzzle for each, and then stated; "Yep, I'm the Alpha". I nearly choked from laughter. An Alpha my dear doesn't need four leashes and a muzzle, he just whistles. My 'dog' story sums it up, wimminoids aren't Alpha, think they are, try to do it,look ridiculous doing it, and do rather poorly. In other words they aren't, and never will be men, so just quit, it ain't happening. Ladies, be women, we like you better that way.
WHAT RADICAL MAN HATING FEMINISTS WANT
#7. To: christine, farmfriend, abraxas, CadetD, ratcat, Phant2000, Octavia, all women (#5)
I, a lowly man, beseech and implore the Grand Goddesses of the Forum to enlighten us with your Mistressful views Ping.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#8. To: Lysander_Spooner (#6)
What about the Alpha Dykes who wannabe Hell's Angels?
My 'dog' story sums it up, wimminoids aren't Alpha
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#9. To: Original_Intent (#4)
That is just one article. He has written extensively on the CIA influence in America, and specifically with Betty Friedan. This is just one article, a short overview. He wrote a book calles "Why Women Are So Crazy", which is more in the same vein. I think he hits more on Betty Friedan in the book, but he definitely does in other article. You will have to look for them.
The only thing I don't think Mr. Stang spent enough time with is the CIA angle.
#10. To: Lysander_Spooner (#6)
I walk down the street with my pug, without a leash, and he trots next to me. Women stop, amazed. "How do you do that?" I tell them, it's because he thinks I'm the pack leader...and it has nothing to do with "dominating" the dog. Or people, too.
"If ever this vast country is brought under a single government, it will be one of the most extensive corruption, indifferent and incapable of a wholesome care over so wide a spread of surface. This will not be borne, and you will have to choose between reform and revolution. If I know the spirit of this country, the one or the other is inevitable." - Thomas Jefferson
#11. To: echo5sierra (#9)
Thanks. I've heard him on the radio and do admire his intellectual acumen.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#12. To: Original_Intent (#8)
Carpet munchers aren't Alpha brah' Just last week one of them Harley Dykes got squished by a pickup round here.
What about the Alpha Dykes who wannabe Hell's Angels?
#13. To: Original_Intent (#11)
He's not around any more, though. If you go to Stangmemorialwall.blogspot.com you can get a lot of his archives.
#14. To: Turtle (#10)
I tell them, it's because he thinks I'm the pack leader...and it has nothing to do with "dominating" the dog. Or people, too. As nature intended it. It is called Natural Law.
To: Lysander_Spooner I walk down the street with my pug, without a leash, and he trots next to me. Women stop, amazed. "How do you do that?"
#15. To: Lysander_Spooner (#6)
lol....I often foster mom for needy greyhounds. My female greyhound always feels the need to demonstrate her alphaness with male dogs. I had one big male in the house and she would try to mount him to show him who was boss, he was very tolerant of her shinanigans. I found the entire business hysterical.
think they are, try to do it,look ridiculous doing it, and do rather poorly.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
#16. To: Lysander_Spooner (#12)
Carpet munchers aren't Alpha brah' Just last week one of them Harley Dykes got squished by a pickup round here. I remember the first time I saw "Dykes on Bikes" - I was walking out of the San Diego Art Museum with my girlfriend and I just about cracked up. My girlfriend had a couple of choice comments as well. The word that always comes to mind is caricature. Raging Bull Dykes are inevitably a dramatization of a shallow immature low class man. A bad one at that as they ape all of the male characteristics which feminists claim to deplore. Another word that comes to mind as an appropriate description: Crass.
What about the Alpha Dykes who wannabe Hell's Angels?
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#17. To: TooConservative (#1)
lol....
Title: WHAT RADICAL MAN HATING FEMINISTS WANT Really stylish vibrators?
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
#18. To: Turtle (#0) (Edited)
Most average, everyday womanoids don't have any idea who this is Turtle.
Simone de Beauvoir, whom today’s womanoids everywhere worship
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
#19. To: echo5sierra (#13)
Thanks. Yes I recall when he passed away. Good to know about the archive as I will have to give it a visit.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#20. To: Original_Intent, christine, abraxas, CadetD, ratcat, Phant2000, Octavia (#7)
Wow, I'm just honored to be on the list! Now where is my chocolate?
I, a lowly man, beseech and implore the Grand Goddesses of the Forum to enlighten us with your Mistressful views Ping.
"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.
Senator Jacob Howard, Co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.
#21. To: Turtle (#0)
A good riding! That'll fix'em! lol
WHAT RADICAL MAN HATING FEMINISTS WANT
From Blank Cheque Ireland... to Bounced Cheque Ireland.
#22. To: abraxas, Turtle (#18)
Most average, everyday womanoids don't have any idea who this is Turtle. True, but the activist leaders of the movement do. Whether the rank and file are aware of "dear" Simone they are aware of the writings and speech of the more active American Alphas.
Simone de Beauvoir, whom today’s womanoids everywhere worship
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#23. To: Original_Intent (#7)
men are some of my favorite people ;)
#24. To: Original_Intent, Turtle (#22)
The entire movement persists on ignorance. The rank and file are young women who are looking for a cause, any cause, but they never look too deep. The movement really hasn't ever gained any ground for this reason. The number of women who are actually seriously committed is extremely small. Most women who think this is important as a college freshman grow out of it quickly. Turtle thinks this is a big scary group to muster concern about, but it's not that significant.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
#25. To: christine (#23)
I assure that I am of the opposite polarity and thus a kindred view. {Alright so I swallowed dictionary as a child. So, sue me. ;-) It's all my mother's fault.}
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#26. To: Lysander_Spooner (#6)
A young man or woman can learn the Hard Way, by years of observation, experience and reading books. Or he / she can do it the Easy Way and take your quote to heart. Unfortunately, the Wisdom Of Youth blinds them. .
wimminoids aren't Alpha, think they are, try to do it,look ridiculous doing it, and do rather poorly. In other words they aren't, and never will be men, so just quit, it ain't happening. Ladies, be women, we like you better that way.
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files
The second dumbest creature on the face of the earth is the one who cannot recognize its enemies. The most stupid of all is the one who will defend and collaborate with the very enemies that are destroying it and its own kind. -Ben Klassen
#27. To: Turtle (#0) (Edited)
*Scratching head* I suppose they are actually now that you mention it. Though.. it could well be I am in concurrence here because I happen to believe that Existentialism is a load of shit and that Gnosticism is also a load of shite. lol They weren’t absolutely certain they existed, and, sure enough, by now they have disappeared, which probably proves they didn’t. Then that paragraph was all for nothing! lol
because existentialists were “Gnostic atheists,”
From Blank Cheque Ireland... to Bounced Cheque Ireland.
#28. To: Original_Intent (#8)
"Dykes On Bikes" if I recall. There is an old joke about gay men who want to be like them but riding horses: "Fags On Nags".
What about the Alpha Dykes who wannabe Hell's Angels?
Democrats don't mind war as long as they can have big government. Republicans don't mind big government as long as they can have war.
#29. To: abraxas, Turtle (#24)
Oooooh! Kind of like the Tea Party and anti-truth. LOL! Thankfully. However, it does, and has had a lasting effect on the culture. You may not always see the "serial numbers" but you can see the affect on the decline of the nuclear family and the increase in single motherhood. Not that I am critical of single mothers, or fathers, sometimes there is no good alternative, but looked at dispassionately as a societal trend. And it is not even that I don't think women had valid beef's (of course I'm biased as my mother was a feminist - although of the less virulent variety - and raised 4 children mostly on her own). As well accompanying the rise of the feminist movement, and the accompanying resentment resulting in a decline in male civility and chivalry, has been a coarsening of the culture. Which I don't blame on women but upon the social manipulations of which the feminist movement is only 1 part. True, but then I think Turtle is frightened by strong women whereas I adore them.
The entire movement persists on ignorance. The rank and file are young women who are looking for a cause, any cause, but they never look too deep.
The movement really hasn't ever gained any ground for this reason. The number of women who are actually seriously committed is extremely small. Most women who think this is important as a college freshman grow out of it quickly.
Turtle thinks this is a big scary group to muster concern about, but it's not that significant.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#30. To: PnbC (#28)
LOL!
There is an old joke about gay men who want to be like them but riding horses: "Fags On Nags".
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#31. To: Original_Intent (#29)
It has been used to this end, but the movement itself doesn't deserve the credit. What you have is useful tools, OI. Eddie Bernays, for instance, didn't give a shit about women's rights when he set out to liberate them with a cig between their fingers in public places. It was all about the money......and it still is. Feminism was born to get the other half to pay income taxes. The useful dupes were covered in the press and the taxes get paid. Cui Bono? Not women. I always say, "Follow the money."
However, it does, and has had a lasting effect on the culture.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
#32. To: abraxas (#31)
I would agree that, that is true, but I don't think it is all of the story. The other is the aim at establishing a controlled culture with the state filling the maternal/paternal role.
It was all about the money......and it still is. Feminism was born to get the other half to pay income taxes.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#33. To: abraxas (#15)
I used to race dogsleds in New England, a few of the dogs had greyhound and wolf, but mostly Siberian mixes. Wolves were the most dominant, and were difficult to separate if they got in a fight, but Alpha is Alpha.
#34. To: abraxas (#24)
They're not a big scary group, but their ideas have percolated down to many women, who know see these things as now "normal." Then they wonder why so many things in their lives don't work out.
Turtle thinks this is a big scary group to muster concern about, but it's not that significant.
"If ever this vast country is brought under a single government, it will be one of the most extensive corruption, indifferent and incapable of a wholesome care over so wide a spread of surface. This will not be borne, and you will have to choose between reform and revolution. If I know the spirit of this country, the one or the other is inevitable." - Thomas Jefferson
#35. To: abraxas (#18)
Her ideas have permeated society.
Most average, everyday womanoids don't have any idea who this is Turtle.
"If ever this vast country is brought under a single government, it will be one of the most extensive corruption, indifferent and incapable of a wholesome care over so wide a spread of surface. This will not be borne, and you will have to choose between reform and revolution. If I know the spirit of this country, the one or the other is inevitable." - Thomas Jefferson
#36. To: Lysander_Spooner (#33)
Reminds me of The Call of the Wild. : )
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
#37. To: Turtle (#35)
Not so much Turtle. Only where her ideas mesh with an elite agenda and get some coverage on the MSM.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
#38. To: farmfriend (#20)
Wow, I'm just honored to be on the list! Now where is my chocolate? LOL! *****Engaging in Self Censorship*****
I, a lowly man, beseech and implore the Grand Goddesses of the Forum to enlighten us with your Mistressful views Ping.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#39. To: Original_Intent (#38)
LOL I'll bet. *blushing smiles*
LOL! *****Engaging in Self Censorship*****
"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.
Senator Jacob Howard, Co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.
#40. To: farmfriend (#39)
You? Blush? I dont believe it.*blushing smiles*
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"Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known."
-Carl Sagan.
#41. To: Armadillo (#40)
The man knows me too well. It is always out of pleasure, never embarrassment.
"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.
Senator Jacob Howard, Co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.
#42. To: farmfriend (#41)
Well, now I'm jealous. I want to make you blush. It is always out of pleasure, never embarrassment.
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"Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known."
-Carl Sagan.
#43. To: Turtle (#0)
definitely related.
The two are related.
Psalms 137:1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.
#44. To: Armadillo (#42)
Oooo baby.
Well, now I'm jealous. I want to make you blush.
"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.
Senator Jacob Howard, Co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.
#45. To: abraxas (#37)
I see these ideas not in the lives of"average" women, but in the lives of the college-educated.
Not so much Turtle. Only where her ideas mesh with an elite agenda and get some coverage on the MSM.
"If ever this vast country is brought under a single government, it will be one of the most extensive corruption, indifferent and incapable of a wholesome care over so wide a spread of surface. This will not be borne, and you will have to choose between reform and revolution. If I know the spirit of this country, the one or the other is inevitable." - Thomas Jefferson
#46. To: farmfriend (#44)
With the right photo, I bet I could make you blush... "down there".Oooo baby.
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"Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known."
-Carl Sagan.
#47. To: Armadillo, farmfriend (#46)
Right, a pimp's love is very different from that of a square.
With the right photo, I bet I could make you blush... "down there".
"Fear of death is form of stasis horrors. The dead weight of time." - William S Burroughs
#48. To: Armadillo (#46)
Mmm I'll bet you could.
With the right photo, I bet I could make you blush... "down there".
"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.
Senator Jacob Howard, Co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.
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