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Title: Dozens of Americans being murdered in Mexico - WHAT WILL IT TAKE??
Source: Town Crier
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Published: Oct 13, 2010
Author: AuntB
Post Date: 2010-10-13 12:49:48 by HAPPY2BME-4UM
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Views: 296
Comments: 20

Dozens of Americans being murdered in Mexico - WHAT WILL IT TAKE??

We can only estimate the thousands of deaths of US citizens by illegal aliens on our own soil. The media fails to report them, the government ignores them. The murder of
David Hartley, on Falcon Lake in Texas and the subsequent beheading by those same cartels of the lead investigator in retaliation have thrown some attention on the threat to us all by the failed state of Mexico.

The Arizona Daily Star gives us some facts.

Forty-eight Americans were murdered in Mexico during the first six months of 2010
The tally doesn't include two Texans reported killed Sept. 30 in separate incidents in isolated areas of Tamaulipas,

A college freshman from Brownsville, Jonathon William Torres Cazares, was shot and killed after authorities say his public bus got hijacked on a highway in Tamaulipas.

State Department data shows at least three other Americans were slain this year in Tamaulipas. But no details were available. In much of Tamaulipas, the news media are no longer reporting on crime because of threats and violence against journalists carried out by drug traffickers.

Last year, 80 homicides of U.S. citizens were reported in Mexico, compared to 57 in 2008 and 35 in 2007.

At least 13 Americans have been slain in Ciudad Juarez in 2010, including an employee of the U.S. Consulate, Lesley Enriquez, 35, and her husband, Arthur Redelfs, 34.

State Department homicide statistics tell only part of the story: Many killings abroad never get reported.

Three U.S. citizens , all from New Mexico - were reported by Mexican authorities to have been abducted during a May wedding at a Catholic Church in Juarez. Their bodies were later found dumped in a pickup truck, but those three homicides do not appear to be included in the registry.

The State Department refuses to reveal the names of the victims, though consular officials are required to monitor investigations abroad that involve U.S. citizen victims and communicate with families. A State Department warning said four U.S. citizens had been murdered in Gomez Palacio in 2009-2010.Many more killings of Americans have been reported in Chihuahua state, which includes Ciudad Juarez and borders El Paso. Sixteen U.S. citizens have beenLink reported slain there so far in 2010 - 13 died in Juarez .


But here is where the double standard of Mexico, and too many of our elected officials really gets ironic. While Mexico and Obamanation turn a blind eye to the dangers and deaths of US Citizens by Mexicans, Mexico is in New York demanding (and getting it!) protection for their border jumping citizens here against harassment! None of them died! Mexico refuses to let us investigate the murder of David Hartley in Mexico and chops the heads off any Mexican investigator who tries! This has gone on so long, that now Mexicans are beheading people in our cities.

[snip]Police are investigating another assault on a Hispanic man in Staten Island as a possible hate crime — and the Mexican government is now getting involved as well.

“We will act decisively in order to protect our citizens and will actively promote that those guilty of these vicious attacks are brought to justice expeditiously. We are working hand-in-hand with local authorities on all levels,” said Consul General of Mexico in New York, Ruben Beltran in an email to the Staten Island Advance.

Beltran has asked the NYPD to “conduct a thorough investigation” of the alleged hate-crime cases. Beltran has offered “extensive cooperation and all the necessary support to ensure that justice is served.”

This latest incident has promoted the Mexican Consulate to post personnel in Staten Island until further notice. This move is an effort to safeguard the rights of individuals and effectively assist and provide information to the Mexican residents of this area.

Mexican officials have also created an information line that for immigrants to contact if they are afraid to contact authorities directly.

Immigration Enforcement ‘Surge’ Nets Thousands of Gang Members (image)More than 11,000 gang members and their associates have been arrested over a three-year period.

And what is the cost to us for Mexico exporting its own criminals to our cities?

CNS news reports: U.S. taxpayers are spending at least $18.6 million per day to house an estimated 300,000 to 450,000 illegal immigrants who are incarcerated and eligible for deportation from the United States, according to data from the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and the Department of Justice (DOJ).

The cost per day for these prisoners is based on Justice Dept. incarceration cost estimates from 2001 and on the lower-end figure of 300,000 incarcerated deportable aliens, which means the actual expense today could be substantially higher than $18.6 million per day.

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Mike Cutler, former INS agent and TV commentator has a message.

I am forced to once again ask, "What will it take?"

What will it take for our government to finally secure our nation's borders, especially the border that is supposed to separate the United States from Mexico?
I was angered, as I suspect many others were, when at first the news reports appeared shortly after the story broke that an American citizens had been killed on the Mexican side of Falcon Lake that indicated that Mexico was not willing to participate in the investigation, even calling into question the truthfulness of Tiffany Hartley, David Hartley's distraught wife.
Mexican officials also also refused to permit American law enforcement officials to enter the Mexican side of the lake in order to search for Michael Hartley's body.

However, when 6 citizens of Mexico were allegedly assaulted in New York City- Mexican officials took to the streets of Staten Island, New York to patrol New York City streets to protect their citizens and were not blocked from doing so by the local government.
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#1. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)

What will it take for our government to finally secure our nation's borders, especially the border that is supposed to separate the United States from Mexico?

Too late, don't worry about. There are already enough darkies here to make it a neocon paradise.

And it's not the border of our nation.

The Mexicans have it right: Where there is a Mexican, there is Mexico.

The noblest man will marry the lowest daughter of a base family, if only she brings in money. And a lady will share her bed with a foul rich man, preferring gold to pedigree. Money is all. Good breeds with bad and race is lost. -- Theognis

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2010-10-13   13:14:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)

We're at war with the wrong country. We should send in bombers, launch Tomahawk missiles, and invade the bastards with tanks.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-10-13   16:18:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: FormerLurker, 4 (#2)

Other than israel, no country presents a greater danger to US than does mx.

Lod  posted on  2010-10-13   16:24:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Lod (#3)

Other than israel, no country presents a greater danger to US than does mx.

The CIA's Panetta says that there are maybe 50-100 Al Qaeda in Afghanistan.

You could round them up, put them on a couple of school buses, and drive them off a cliff. We'd still have our problems with the Afghans that arise purely from the fact of our being there, and which would vanish the minute we packed up and left.

Israel and Mexico are problems that we just can't shake. These twin woes are woven into our history, and we won't be quit of either of them until we wake up one day and take a more critical view of what we think we know about the last couple of centuries.

I would like to direct this to the distinguished members of the panel: You lousy cork-soakers. You have violated my farging rights. Dis somanumbatching country was founded so that the liberties of common patriotic citizens like me could not be taken away by a bunch of fargin iceholes... like yourselves. Thank you. - Roman Moroni

randge  posted on  2010-10-13   17:12:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)

The hearts of 535 congresscritters and Pharoah Obama are hardened against the cries of their people. No amound of dead Americans will change that, only an armed rebellion that casts out the blasphemers in D.C. will end the nightmare.

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"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?"

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2010-10-13   17:54:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: randge, 4 (#4)

We'd still have our problems with the Afghans that arise purely from the fact of our being there, and which would vanish the minute we packed up and left.

Israel and Mexico are problems that we just can't shake. These twin woes are woven into our history, and we won't be quit of either of them until we wake up one day and take a more critical view of what we think we know about the last couple of centuries.

Ron Paul, and a few others, are capable of critical, dispassionate, thinking in deecee.

The rest are beyond disgust.

It's all a racket to them.

Lod  posted on  2010-10-13   18:24:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: X-15 (#5)


The hearts of 535 congresscritters and Pharoah Obama are hardened against the cries of their people.

======================================

From your mouth to God's Righteous Ears ..

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2010-10-13   18:45:37 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)

i've been to mexico four times this year and the boogeyman still hasn't got me.. thank goodness!

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2010-10-14   20:28:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Artisan (#8)

The odds are not in your favor. 24,000 murdered in the past two years.

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2010-10-14   21:23:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#9)

what do you think should be done about it?

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2010-10-14   22:22:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Artisan (#10)

what do you think should be done about it?

========================================

You may have a vested or emotional attachment to Mexico, unlike me.

If the laws we already have on the books were enforced, thousands of Americans would have to alter their lifestyles and even jobs and where they live. This is why many don't want real enforcement of the border or deportation of the millions here illegally.

In short: ENFORCE THE LAW and SECURE THE BORDER.

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2010-10-15   1:53:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#1)

A friend's brother was murdered in Mexico a few years ago while he was on vacation. While the family was down there dealing with the horror and the bureaucratic BS, my friend, the murdered man's sister, saw one of the cops wearing her dead brother's watch.His car was also being used by the cops. They paid to get his stuff back.

Central Mexico isn't bad for gringos. Northern Mexico is a death trap.

bluegrass  posted on  2010-10-15   2:03:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#11)

dspite what you may think, i have no problems with enforcing the laws and sovereignty, but im wondering how specifically would that prevent the... 24,000 (!?) murders of american tourists in mexico?

and where did you get that number? thanks

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2010-10-15   9:02:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Artisan (#13)

dspite what you may think, i have no problems with enforcing the laws and sovereignty, but im wondering how specifically would that prevent the... 24,000 (!?) murders of american tourists in mexico?

and where did you get that number? thanks

=====================================

Dear Sir,

Your ability to intermingle with the locals in Mexico in no way makes it any safer for the average American to do the same. The tens of thousands murdered down there in the past two years (NOT tourists - LOCALS) simply can't be brushed under the LaRaza carpet.

H2

Michelle Obama Declares it Safe to Travel to Mexico

Here is video of First Lady Michelle Obama in an interview from Mexico City, where she declared it to be safe to travel to Mexico. She said she would encourage Americans to come to Mexico.

This despite the fact that 23,000 people have been killed in drug violence in Mexico in the last three years.

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2010-10-15   11:03:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#14)

there's the story of the american 'elected official' killed in Mexico last Christmastime. this story is oft touted by everyone. well i happen to be here at the time so i took an interest in it. he wasnt killed in mexico city, i think it was juarez. he was a schoolteacher from L.A. and an elected school board member (hence the headlines screaming 'first elected official ever killed in mexico!) well according to the article itself, which was several pages long, the guy was killed execution style along with 4 or 5 of his friends . his wife was fromm mexico, but she was not there when it happened. according to the article he was in some seedy bar known for prostitution and dope dealings.

so, you have to take that into consideration. That is not anything near what i do when i am in mexico. you do have to be careful in mx,. not stupid. i wouldnt be hanging out in a doper seedy hooker bar in the usa, either, in the middle of the night, because thats not what i'm into.

what was the 'teacher' really doing in a place like that? who knows, but it seemed shady to me. we dont really know what happened there. that is just one example.

I am not saying it is a completelyy safe place. of course it's not. im simply saying that every american is not going to get beheaded as soon as they step into the border.

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2010-10-15   23:56:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#14)

Michelle Obama Declares it Safe

that is the first time i have seen michelle obama speak. her response sounded sort of phony, lol., although she did say what i said. be smart, when travelling. not stupid.

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2010-10-16   0:06:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Artisan (#16)

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13

=================================

After John 3:16, this is perhaps the most powerful Truth in the New Testament

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2010-10-16   18:46:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#17)

After John 3:16, this is perhaps the most powerful Truth in the New Testament

The verse reminds me to be nice and lovely when posting, particularly since it will be printed below every one of my replies. a way to keep me in line so to speak., lol.

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2010-10-17   15:08:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Artisan (#18)

In these last days, there are so many walking dead whose conscience has been completely seared with sin and unforgiveness.

You are blessed yours' isn't.

;>)

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2010-10-17   21:06:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Artisan (#18)

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2010-10-18   6:37:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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