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Title: CBS Report On 9/11: Ground Level Explosion Caused WTC To Collapse
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URL Source: http://www.prisonplanet.com/cbs-rep ... on-caused-wtc-to-collapse.html
Published: Oct 15, 2010
Author: Paul Joseph Watson
Post Date: 2010-10-15 12:38:41 by Horse
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Views: 478
Comments: 51
Yet another 9/11 video that NIST tried to block from being released has emerged discussing bombs in the World Trade Center that led to the collapse of the twin towers, indicating once more that the organization attempted to preside over a cover-up to hide evidence of secondary explosives. Every single video that we have been able to study following a lawsuit brought by the International Center for 9/11 Studies, which forced the National Institute of Standards and Technology to release 3 terabytes of material, has contained either direct or eyewitness evidence of controlled demolition, suggesting that NIST’s refusal to release the footage after a FOIA request was a deliberate ploy to try and keep the material out of the public arena. On Wednesday we reported on how footage of WTC 7’s collapse had been edited to try and hide evidence of controlled demolition. The new clip features CBS 2 reporter Marcia Kramer discussing a CNN report about secondary explosions inside the ground level areas of the south tower which caused the building to collapse. “CNN is now reporting that there was a third explosion at the World Trade Center, probably an explosion from the ground that caused World Trade Center 1 to collapse on top of itself,” states reporter Marcia Kramer in the clip. Kramer refers to WTC 1 but is in fact talking about the south tower, which was the first to collapse. The live footage on the clip shows the smoking north tower still standing. “Again there was a third explosion, it is unclear what caused it, whether it was a bomb or whether the first plane that crashed into the tower had somehow been booby trapped with a bomb that was timed to explode later after the crash had occurred. But CNN is reporting that there was a third explosion that caused World Trade Center 1 to collapse within itself,” she adds. Watch the clip. The video dovetails with another clip that NIST attempted to sit on, in which 9/11 firefighters describe secondary explosions in the lobby area of the tower that caused the building to collapse. As we highlighted last week, numerous eyewitnesses, including WTC janitor William Rodriguez, supervisor Anthony Saltalamacchia, and ABM janitorial services employee Kenneth Johannemann, all described explosions in the basement area of the towers before and after they were hit by planes. 15-year WTC worker Marlene Cruz and numerous other WTC basement workers, including Felipe David and Salvatore Giambanco, have all gone public since the attacks to talk about secondary explosions in the lower levels of the towers. The 9/11 Commission completely ignored the hundreds of survivors, professionals, first responders, firefighters and police who reported numerous secondary explosions at all levels of the twin towers. The official story dictates that the collapse of both towers began at the impact point where the planes hit the buildings. Evidence of ground level explosions that contributed to the collapse of the towers would not corroborate with the government’s insistence that the attack was solely the work of 19 hijackers acting on behalf of Osama bin Laden, which is presumably why NIST fought tooth and nail to prevent this and other videos from being released.
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#1. To: Horse (#0)
The people that were placed on this panel "and" those placing them there all belong in prison or hanging from the gallows.
"Politics and Religion are the building blocks of slavery and oppression. Greed is the mortar that bonds them". Doug Scheidt, 10-5-10
I'm pretty sure the second video is fake. It's very much like they're acting. Where's the dust? The first video sounds like part of the audio is fake. The part with the woman reporter talking about the Jewish conference coming up to get support for Israel's plight with the Palestinians. I'm quite sure both of these videos are hoaxes.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rIvm0GDbCQ www.youtube.com/watch?v=IO1ps1mzU8o Read the comments at the bottom of the videos on youtube. Fake. Fake fake fake fake fake fake fake hahahhaha I love it.
Listen to the "Fireman" talk about a "very large black airplane" at about 1:20 (Edited cuz wud got a little over-excited there.)
I know you hate that Alex Jones. Look what he's putting up on his site now. "Newly surfaced, NIST-rejected youtube videos" Surprise, surprise
Please watch these two videos especially the fireman one. There are at least a dozen clues to show their fake. Actors, that is. I don't feel like listing them. If you watch it you should see. Let me know if you don't and I'll type them all out for you.
Watch at about 1:23 "It was so surreal, it was like a movie set." The more I watch it, the more I see how they're acting.
Most recently I enjoyed the Chilian Miner rescue. I had a rare chance to watch good morning america cover it as my local ksat news kept on interrupting to report miner 11 made it out while GMA was still covering miner nine. For fun I checked the live stream on the net which was on miner 13...Not even Ksat had made it to miner 13... So one wonders why this event was considered live on TV when clearly the live stream was truly live and the tv feeds were tape delayed by about 25 minutes or so.. and how they worked their broadcasts around it was neat to. I don't trust much of the news I read these days. and I wonder what really happens beyond my own world because the media has burned my parents,grad parents and me but unlike them before me, I will not trust it again... and so I am left to wonder and lurk.... It is mind blowing what tv can make folks believe.
That is interesting, thank you. I don't watch hardly any tv ever anymore. Jersey Shore is slightly entertaining. Like cotton candy. Do you agree that the "firemen" in the above video are actors?
The more I watch it, the more I see how they're acting. See NEW VIDEO 9-11 Firemen Secondary Explosion Testimony thread, Posts #4 and #5.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Cool. Nice to see I'm not the only one noticing. It can be lonely out here, you know. ;-) Is it not obvious the firemen are actors? Interesting number analysis.
Yep, sure do. Definitely the black plane guy seemed so right away, like he was hired to push the plane meme. Some clues became more noticeable after watching the longer video a few times.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
No matter how many times someone posts their opinions you have to look at the real evidence. These two videos were sealed up for 9 years by NIST. If they were fakes, the government would have eagerly released them. If CBS had not made the first video, they would have denied it. CBS is a Jewish company. Israel did 911.
The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie
"Newly surfaced, NIST-rejected youtube videos" Surprise, surprise What does this have to do with my ol' buddy Alex? It's on one of his sites. So what? And why is it necessary to file FOIA requests to the NIST to release network footage? The top vid is news footage, not NIST footage. The one underneath it doesnt say who owns it. But I didn't watch it all. So, your point is? .
The 9/11 Commission completely ignored the hundreds of survivors, professionals, first responders, firefighters and police who reported numerous secondary explosions at all levels of the twin towers.
#2. To: Horse, noone222, FormerLurker, Artisan, Original_Intent, *9-11* (#0)
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#3. To: All (#2)
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#4. To: GreyLmist, titorite, randge, Eric Stratton, christine, Lod, HOUNDDAWG, All (#3)
(Edited)
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#5. To: PSUSA (#4)
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#6. To: Horse, noone222, FormerLurker, Artisan, Original_Intent, GreyLmist, titorite, randge, Eric Stratton, christine, Lod, HOUNDDAWG, *9-11*All (#2)
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#7. To: GreyLmist, All (#6)
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#8. To: wudidiz (#7)
#9. To: titorite (#8)
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#10. To: titorite (#8)
Most recently I enjoyed the Chilian Miner rescue. I had a rare chance to watch good morning america cover it as my local ksat news kept on interrupting to report miner 11 made it out while GMA was still covering miner nine. For fun I checked the live stream on the net which was on miner 13...Not even Ksat had made it to miner 13... So one wonders why this event was considered live on TV when clearly the live stream was truly live and the tv feeds were tape delayed by about 25 minutes or so..
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#11. To: wudidiz (#7)
"It was so surreal, it was like a movie set."
#12. To: GreyLmist (#11)
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#13. To: wudidiz (#12)
(Edited)
Nice to see I'm not the only one noticing. It can be lonely out here, you know. ;-)
Is it not obvious the firemen are actors?
#14. To: Horse, *9-11* (#0)
#15. To: wudidiz (#5)
I know you hate that Alex Jones. Look what he's putting up on his site now.
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The second dumbest creature on the face of the earth is the one who cannot recognize its enemies. The most stupid of all is the one who will defend and collaborate with the very enemies that are destroying it and its own kind. -Ben Klassen
#16. To: PSUSA (#15)
Excellent question. Not so excellent.
And why is it necessary to file FOIA requests to the NIST to release network footage?
So, your point is?
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#17. To: wudidiz (#16)
You pinged me for a reason. Not that I mind it, but I'm curious as to why you did. I'm just trying to figure out what you're looking for. .
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The second dumbest creature on the face of the earth is the one who cannot recognize its enemies. The most stupid of all is the one who will defend and collaborate with the very enemies that are destroying it and its own kind. -Ben Klassen
#18. To: Horse (#14)
Couldn't have said it better myself. How do you know they were "sealed up for 9 years by NIST"? Believe what you want. The firemen in the second video are actors.
No matter how many times someone posts their opinions you have to look at the real evidence.
These two videos were sealed up for 9 years by NIST. If they were fakes, the government would have eagerly released them.
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#19. To: PSUSA (#17)
Yeah, no problem. After watching the video, realizing the firemen were actors and pinging everyone I thought might be interested, I recalled you had posted many times about your dislike for Alex Jones. Just thought you might be interested to see the video. I could have just included you in the ping list with everyone else. My point is, to answer your question, the firemen in the video are actors. Only drawing your attention to that.
You pinged me for a reason. Not that I mind it, but I'm curious as to why you did. I'm just trying to figure out what you're looking for.
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#20. To: wudidiz (#7)
"It was so surreal, it was like a movie set." The more I watch it, the more I see how they're acting. Is that why you think they were acting? If so, when you see something traumatic, it is surreal and like a movie set. You can't believe what you are seeing. It takes time for it to register. Fighting thru that surreal feeling is not easy. People underestimate it. They do stupid things, or they freeze up and do nothing, if they don't have experience. .
Watch at about 1:23
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The second dumbest creature on the face of the earth is the one who cannot recognize its enemies. The most stupid of all is the one who will defend and collaborate with the very enemies that are destroying it and its own kind. -Ben Klassen
#21. To: PSUSA (#20)
No.
Is that why you think they were acting?
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#22. To: wudidiz (#21)
If you are going to call them actors, it's up to you to prove it. ,
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The second dumbest creature on the face of the earth is the one who cannot recognize its enemies. The most stupid of all is the one who will defend and collaborate with the very enemies that are destroying it and its own kind. -Ben Klassen
#23. To: PSUSA (#22)
Sure.
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#24. To: Horse, wudidiz (#14)
The first comment does not support the second. So, from the stand point of pure logic it is an incomplete argument. However, I didn't respond simply to play logic coach. That Israel knew about or was directly involved in the 911 PsyOp I have no doubt. The purchase of the leases by a very likely Mossad Sayanim, Lucky Larry, set up the situation where Israeli demolitions people dressed as building maintenance could freely, and without question, move in and out of the buildings. However, there were a couple of glaring points that were clearly beyond Israeli control and would have required people at the highest levels of the U.S. Government to be complicit. Most notable, but not the only points, are: The Stand-down of NORAD. And The ensuing cover-up and the year long stonewall of any investigation by Jorge the Bush. OKC was likely the trial run to test in the real world the media suppression techniques and disinformation channels needed to pull off the "main event". That also was beyond Israeli control. And they did learn from OKC - they made sure that all of the alleged perps were safely dead, and unlike McVeigh no ties to U.S. Special Ops - except that there are as several trained at U.S. facilities. However, "dead men tell no tales". Likely the Israeli demolition team was shipped back to Israel, after their job was done, and whacked. People who would cold bloodedly murder 3,000 people for a PsyOp would not hesitate to whack a few low level flunkies to ensure they said nothing - ever. That there was Israeli involvement, even though not the instigator or primary operatives, would be enough to guarantee the blackout by the Zionist controlled American Media, because even peripheral involvement, if it became widely known, would be enough to turn every decent American against Israel. The 911 PsyOp has Tavistock Institute written all over it. I found it supremely ironic that the British 7/7 PsyOp had one of the perps blown up right outside of Tavistock's front door. All of these events are interrelated and tie together when you step back and look at the common elements - which are just too much to go into in a short post. However, the key point about each of them was that the apparent motivation was to bring about a set of emotional reactions in the general public to set up and allow other actions. In the case of the U.S. a couple of invasions and wars along with a commensurate increase in military spending. As well it allowed for the passage of unconstitutional bills infringing upon due process and basic and fundamental liberties. The problem the controllers face is keeping the lid on and preventing blowback from the American public should large numbers become convinced of the fact that 911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB.
CBS is a Jewish company. Israel did 911.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#25. To: wudidiz (#12)
Some were actors and some were real. The best Psyop mixes truth and fiction so that we can not tell the difference of either.
#26. To: titorite (#25)
Thanks for your reply. I think all three firemen being "interviewed" are actors.
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#27. To: wudidiz, Horse, noone222, FormerLurker, Artisan, Original_Intent, christine, Jethro Tull, bluegrass, James_Deffenbach (#2)
What you're talking about is a high dollar production to rent the FDNY Hazardous Materials response vehicle and other apparatus to set up this scene, and who would go to that expense when a simple e mail to the NYC Film Office and/or the FDNY admin could expose any such film as fake? (There is simply no way that this apparatus can be rented "by stealth" or without permits) I'm quite sure that the NYC admin wouldn't participate in the making of a fake film that invites discussion about "cui bono?" or undermines the official fairie tale. And, these firefighters sound identical to, i.e. speaking in the same frank way and making the same charges as those who were interviewed days later in the firehouse-clips that we know are real interviews of real firefighters. And when the camera angle changed to the guy who said "it's like a movie set" there were clouds of dust/smoke blowing down the street behind him.... Last, if it was a "big budget production intended to pass as real" you wouldn't have seen disgusting scum in the corner of the black "actor's" mouth when he spoke. It would bring complaints from minority members of the New York Division of The Screen Actors' Guild, i.e. "How come da nigga gots scum in his mouth? Why not the blond haired Nazi?"
I'm pretty sure the second video is fake. It's very much like they're acting. Where's the dust?
#28. To: HOUNDDAWG (#27)
LOL! "Don't trust them new niggas over there." Uncle Ruckus
It would bring complaints from minority members of the New York Division of The Screen Actors' Guild, i.e. "How come da nigga gots scum in his mouth? Why not the blond haired Nazi?"
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
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#29. To: HOUNDDAWG, wudidiz, Horse, noone222, FormerLurker, Artisan, Original_Intent, Eric Stratton, randge, christine, Jethro Tull, bluegrass, James_Deffenbach, GreyLmist, titorite, all (#27) (Edited)
I think the firetrucks were there already. The three firemen are actors. Everything else is real. Maybe the interviewers are involved. I agree. Actors do that. Yes and you will notice the smoke is travelling toward the same buildings that the fireman motioned toward as the ones that may blow up. That is, toward the WTC. Well....it wasn't a big budget production. The three firemen are paid actors, that's all. I seriously doubt the Screen Actors' Guild will be involved. Funny though. Thank you very much for your reply anyway, HD.
What you're talking about is a high dollar production to rent the FDNY Hazardous Materials response vehicle and other apparatus to set up this scene, and who would go to that expense when a simple e mail to the NYC Film Office and/or the FDNY admin could expose any such film as fake? (There is simply no way that this apparatus can be rented "by stealth" or without permits)
I'm quite sure that the NYC admin wouldn't participate in the making of a fake film that invites discussion about "cui bono?" or undermines the official fairie tale.
And, these firefighters sound identical to, i.e. speaking in the same frank way and making the same charges as those who were interviewed days later in the firehouse-clips that we know are real interviews of real firefighters.
And when the camera angle changed to the guy who said "it's like a movie set" there were clouds of dust/smoke blowing down the street behind him....
Last, if it was a "big budget production intended to pass as real" you wouldn't have seen disgusting scum in the corner of the black "actor's" mouth when he spoke. It would bring complaints from minority members of the New York Division of The Screen Actors' Guild, i.e. "How come da nigga gots scum in his mouth? Why not the blond haired Nazi?"
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#30. To: HOUNDDAWG, wudidiz (#27)
Lets see, They knew it wasn't over and offered foreshadowing of WTC7 yet to come. It was like a movie set one said... Their were so many Freudian slips that day ..at 1:32 in the back round you can hear the sound of another plane...but nothing happens...the audio fuck ups of the scam are legendary. The fucking building fell on them.. but they are OK...just like the passport that fell from the plane ...They are semi dust covered...but their faces have been wiped, no surprise, what is intriguing is how clean their necks are.. Blondees flash light is also totally dust free as is blondees velcro.... that is some nifty dust that avoids velcro...at o:44-0:46 the unidentified channel 7 reporter asks them "So a plane or whatever hit the building" What Blondee says real softly is REALLY interesting...!! Freudian fuck up again. And Fire fighter number 3 speaks lies with his eyes. If you know how to follow the eyes you can see the he was imagining what to say next....Just a bit of light improve to sell the story. And for escaping a large horrible inferno, a building crash, and what looks like a quick hose down these fire fighters look awfully dry... hell, they ain't even breaking a sweat...check out the black fellow. The back of his head still covered in dust. Not one sweat line despite the hot, high stress enviroment and all the running he must of done he does not have one bead of sweat around his ears or back of head. Fake? Come on, what do yall think?
#31. To: titorite (#30)
This world needs more people like you, titorite. Questions: Where are they? Exactly. What are the names of the firemen? Why is there no dust anywhere but on them? Hahahahahha I love the part about the "black, very large plane" that "we" all saw. I could go on you know and I suppose you could too, but all it takes for an intelligent, discerning person to know is to watch it themselves.
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#32. To: GreyLmist, titorite, All (#31)
Please pause this at 0:02 and tell me what you think?
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#33. To: All, *9-11* (#32)
Someone has gone to a lot of trouble to fabricate witness statements:
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#34. To: wudidiz (#32)
Minute 3:16 is questionable in comparison to minute 0:02....Also as I look at the smoke I wonder..."real or CGI?" Do the Shadows line up?... from the angle and limited time I can not be sure one way or the other.... And while I have not seen enough evidence to lead me to believe DEWs were involved..The links to the pics are at the site. Judge the pics not the site. Because in my mind, after you commit a crime like this it is only natural to burn the evidence. http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/DEW/dewpics/010912_WFC_911_1392.jpg The building in the backround. http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/DEW/dewpics/Image165.jpg When in doubt burn all the evidence you can. Their are more strange pics there too...Strange unexplainable things..
Please pause this at 0:02 and tell me what you think?
#35. To: titorite (#34)
Thank you I didn't see that until you told me. What is that at 0:02 supposed to be a picture of? Is that supposed to be the pyroclastic cloud from one of the wtc falling? It sure is sitting there for a long time. Here are the pictures you're talking about: Damage from nuclear devices?
Minute 3:16 is questionable in comparison to minute 0:02....
Also as I look at the smoke I wonder..."real or CGI?" Do the Shadows line up?... from the angle and limited time I can not be sure one way or the other....
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#36. To: wudidiz (#35) (Edited)
Nuclear devices? No. Not likely. The erratic damage of burned up cars was all over the place. One side of the street was fine and the other side had a row of melted cars...very strange. Their are a number of explanations that could explain it and some explanations that do not fit ...as for the elusive correct answer? I don't know. But I do know a nuke even a .3 kiloton micro nuke has consistent damage patterns... The burn paths of cars were anything but consistent. I noticed the cloud...I thought the same thing..that it was just kinda sitting there... But only about 2 seconds are spent on it...the Camera man is careful not to pan in that direction again except at 3:16...I thought the building itself in front(underneath?) of the cloud might be wtc7.... but like I said given the poor shot and limited time...I can't be sure. And I like to be sure. Thanks for uploading those pics for me!
#37. To: titorite (#36)
Like what, please?
Their are a number of explanations that could explain it
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#38. To: wudidiz (#37) (Edited)
You had to ask me... Well their is a possibility it was Direct Energy Weapons. Now I am not a hacker but I do appreciate hacker culture. No where have I ever read of anyone or any government having anything close to capable of emitting the destructive power needed to obliterate metal to dust... and yet... in some frames of the collapse that is exactly what happens... Tesla himself couldn't do this.. but it has been years since Teslas' time.... I can grasp that the concepts of DEWs maybe possible but I have yet to see anyones prototype or theory behind the concept..know what I mean? DEW is very fringe shit. Still..Lacking enough proof I am not sure of this explanation... I also dislike it immensely because of the implications it would mean if true... Can you imagine? Zapping fuckers from space. No rebellion would ever have a chance. But this is just one possibility and by no means is it a certainty. Another explanation could be that the spire that turns to dust on film is CGI like so many other aspects of this hoax fraud. If it was CGI just as a means to throw off investigators then we must account for the melted cars... It could be that everywhere we see some melted cars a "scene" might of gone off in that area. Those involved produce the "scene" and after wards cars,cloths, cameras, whatever ...any linking evidence that needs to be destroyed is, by arson. One could blame the fires on the buildings and then wash their hands of it and here we are 9 years later. Still trying to understand WTF really happened. Another explanation is possible. If it really was thermite then, it is possible that the demo team errored on the side of caution choosing to use too much rather than too little. The buildings go down as planned but some of the thermite flies off in all sorts of directions landing on cars, street , whatever, burning the hell out of what ever it touched after being blasted out of the buildings until it exhausted itself. Last explanation, I am delusional, paranoid, and insane and the government version is right. But I think that is as likely as the gulf of tonkin being legit. I am not 100% on what happened. But I know how to rule out that which is 100% impossible. Sherlocke Holmes logic. Rule out all that can not be and whatever your left with is the freaky fucked up truth.
Like what, please?
#39. To: titorite (#38)
Directed energy weapons seems like the only thing that would cause this: Paranoia and delusion might do it too.
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#40. To: wudidiz (#39)
Seems like.... Being as honest and realistic as I can it could be some kind of thermtic compound... It could be simple destruction of evidence... or DEW. Realistically? Thermite or dew. But I need to see evidence of the reaction. I mean just WTF wave length vibration can make specialized alloys blow apart into grey dust.... what create that kind of energy? High intensity narrow focused microwaves? IDK... But if such a thing is possible it will out itself... knowledge wants to be free.
Directed energy weapons seems like the only thing that would cause this:
#41. To: titorite (#38)
Listening to this with the video off is revealing.
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#42. To: titorite (#40)
Word.
IDK... But if such a thing is possible it will out itself... knowledge wants to be free.
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#43. To: wudidiz (#32)
I haven't seen the movie, "V for Vendetta", but it looks like an image of that character is at the back of the firetruck and morphs as it turns right towards the "black plane" fireman who said, "It was so surreal and like a movie set". So, I did some research on that movie: Inspector Finch's alarm clock begins the morning of November 4 with the song "Long Black Train" by Richard Hawley, which contains the foreshadowing lyrics "Ride the long black train... take me home black train." This is the YouTube video for Richard Hawley's song, "Long Black Train", from a 2001 album called "Late Night Final". There are only 2 comments at the site, one from a month ago by screen name "VEveyHammond" that references the character "V". http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=znurT2NkTWw VEveyHammond So, what did you notice at the 2 second point of the fireman video? Some other things I found odd in comparing the two fireman videos is that the smoke in the distance doesn't seem to move, the shadows seem to be at different angles, and the firetruck in the background shifts right as the camera pans right towards the "black plane" fireman.
Please pause this at 0:02 and tell me what you think?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_for_Vendetta_(film)
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there is repeated reference to the letter “V” and the number five throughout the film (note that letter "V" is number five in Roman numerals).[20] For example, V's introduction to Evey is a monologue containing 48 words beginning with the letter "V", and containing a total of 52 letter "V"s. When Evey tells V her name he repeats it slowly as "E... V". "E" is the fifth letter of the alphabet, and "V" is the fifth letter from the end of the alphabet. Not only that, but, In Latin, Evey's phonetic name means "exit V";nirabalcab | March 18, 2010
from ' Late Night Final ' album (2001)
1 month ago
Oh, V, you are sorely missed! Love you forever!
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
#44. To: GreyLmist (#43)
I didn't see the V. I noticed the firemen's faces blurred and the cloud of dust or smoke above the distant building.
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#45. To: wudidiz, titorite, all (#39)
Doesn't look like there's any debris on it or around it to have crushed it like that. Does look like more evidence pointing to a twisted, inside joke by the perps that they expected almost no one to take seriously if told that the WTC was crushed by DEW that morning.
Directed energy weapons seems like the only thing that would cause this:
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
#46. To: GreyLmist (#45)
They must be laughing now that airline passengers are subject to x-ray machines and strip searches after the shoe bomber and underwear bomber were planted on the planes.
twisted, inside joke by the perps
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#47. To: GreyLmist (#45) (Edited)
But how. ? That is not quite melt damage nor smush damage. And yet... What can do this? I see it is done... Not impossible that the explanation could be photoshop or thermite..... not impossible that it could be DEW. For my unwilling acceptance I only want to see blue prints or a diagram... or at least an outline of an electrical theory that attempts to explain how some kind of space based DEW could possibly maybe function. I know how a coil gun works. Big or small. I understand gunpowder and other combustibles. But if DEW is the culprit..... those freaky fucks mixed some kind of Lrad with H.I.M. with god knows what... Worst of all I can not discount it. If it was a DEW, what kind and ..... You know what? fuck it... I noticed the dust spire before most others. It bugs the shit out of me. I think enough time has passed I might be able to just run that spire disintegration across folks demanding explanations... and I suggest you do to. Because the spire was either CGI fake disinfo...or...the alternative... and as I stated before I dislike the alternative...because it means you reading this as well as I writing this have a death weapon above us waiting to kill either of us at some other pecker cowards whim. I loath that idea. Speaking of Ideas I dislike... the damage was mostly narrow and confined but still inconsistent. Those random cars... You don't know this but I hate microwaves. I hate microwaves because they don't cook things evenly...kinda like the 911 damage that was not even. But unlike my microwave I really have not seen enough DEW evidence to convince me. I hate that DEW theory...especially if it proves to be right. If that was a big ass lab test plus bonus crisis and bonus war...well If their kung fu is that good then what is safe?
#48. To: titorite, GreyLmist (#47)
If the spires disintegrating weren't CGI and it wasn't from nukes and it's not paranoia and/or delusion, that leaves DEW. That is freaky.
No Planes. Think about it. ................. Guaranteed Penetration (no it's not porn)
#49. To: titorite (#47)
not impossible that it could be DEW. For my unwilling acceptance I only want to see blue prints or a diagram... or at least an outline of an electrical theory that attempts to explain how some kind of space based DEW could possibly maybe function. From Israel and US Develop Infrared Beam Weapon by Christopher Bollyn - American Free Press: In 1991, before the Soviet military withdrew from East Germany, the GRU demonstrated for the U.S. Air Force Electronic Security Command (AFESC) the capabilities of its infrared beam weapon by reducing a ceramic plate into dust from a distance of one mile. This display of Soviet weapon technology was meant to impress upon the U.S. Air Force “how a stealth bomber could be turned into dust in the same way,” the physicist said. The physicist placed a slightly warmed plate on the floor of a kitchen in an apartment on the fifth floor, just below the roof. GRU headquarters, where the infrared beam originated was less than one mile away on the other side of the valley and the second transmitter or reflector was 200 meters away, with no obstacles between. An infrared beam weapon requires two sources. The TV and the oven were turned on and the TV’s remote control was put in the refrigerator. The physicist left the room and watched the TV screen, which went black for a few seconds. The physicist left the apartment for a half hour to allow AFESC personnel to examine the results. The plate had been reduced to such tiny pieces that it was difficult to pick them up even with a vacuum cleaner, according to the physicist. “The plate was not destroyed suddenly as if hit by a bullet, rather it disintegrated in a process taking about 15 minutes.” Although such technology is not widely discussed in the West, the Soviet infrared beam weapon is nothing new and was used during a Soviet dispute with China in 1968 to destroy “a wall” at the Ussuri River, which separates Manchuria from Russia’s Far East, according to the physicist. [More about THEL, etc. at the site] If that was a big ass lab test plus bonus crisis and bonus war...well If their kung fu is that good then what is safe? I don't know but if they try to blame it on Al Qaeda spacemen in UFOs, I'm not going to believe it.
What can do this? I see it is done... Not impossible that the explanation could be photoshop or thermite.....
I hate that DEW theory...especially if it proves to be right.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
#50. To: titorite (#30)
Before I argue any more perhaps I'm missing something crucial that you can help clarify. Who (do you believe) would benefit from faking these vids? And, at what point in the collapse scenarios do you believe they were trying to duplicate in their attempt at deception? One thing though. "The guy's flashlight is clean" is a pretty thin reed on which to argue fakery. How dirty should it have been and why? Could he have wiped it (and his mask) in order to illuminate his egress from a dark and dust choked disaster area? Here's a little experiment. Take a large cup full of any kind of fine powder or dust mixture (dry) and throw it against a sealed beam headlight for example, then take pix to show us how much actually sticks to convex, non porous glass. You can do this without walking to shake any off, and you needn't allow for the wind which is moving pretty fast as we saw behind the third man on the right. Just try to make as much as you can stick and show us the results.
#51. To: HOUNDDAWG (#50)
The Bush Cabal. Theirs was a very long plan. What did they Gain? Well, the companies they own are now very well embedded in Iraq and Afghanistan. They now control the majority of the worlds oil so long as their Saudi buddies don't betray them. Funny thing though, Oil is on its way out and newer green techs are on their way in. They may of been able to maintain their strangle hold on the worlds energy resources if they had been successful with the first attempt in 93...but they failed... by the time they were ready to try again in 01 the world had changed too much but they failed to change their plan.
Who (do you believe) would benefit from faking these vids?
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