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Title: Baby Cheyenne returned to parents after Rochester hearing: Parents can't comment, but dad happy after hearing protested by Oath Keepers
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URL Source: http://www.fosters.com/apps/pbcs.dl ... GJNEWS_01/710159937/-1/fosnews
Published: Oct 15, 2010
Author: Aaron Sanborn
Post Date: 2010-10-15 19:19:09 by christine
Keywords: None
Views: 452
Comments: 33

DOVER — Exiting Rochester Family Court into the midst of roughly 100 protesters on Thursday, Johnathan Irish clearly had something to smile about.

The court had just held a hearing on the future of Cheyenne, the infant daughter of Irish and Stephanie Taylor, who was taken into the custody of the New Hampshire Division of Children, Youth and Families shortly after her birth on Thursday, Oct. 7.

Neither would comment about the hearing's outcome, citing state confidentiality laws.

"I would love to comment, but we can't," Taylor said.

However, Irish used a smile to indicate the hearing's outcome.

"A picture's worth a thousand words. What's a smile worth?" he asked.

Prior to Thursday's hearing, Irish denied DCYF claims that Cheyenne could be in danger.

The Epsom couple's case has made national headlines in the last few days because of the Oath Keepers connection that was referenced in affidavit.

About 100 people gathered in front of the Strafford County Superior Court on Thursday to protest a reference that was made to the Oath Keepers organization in an affidavit related to the local child custody case.

The Oath Keepers, are a group that pledges to defend the Constitution and to oppose government tyranny.

They group was referenced in a DCYF affidavit as a political affiliation of Irish.

Those who attended Thursday's protest were outraged that an affiliation with the Oath Keepers would be mentioned in an affidavit related to a child custody case.

The affidavit for the case is sealed and Oath Keepers only provided the excerpt of the affidavit that referenced them. That excerpt allegedly states, "The Division (DCYF) became aware and confirmed that Mr. Irish associated with a militia known as the, "Oath Keepers," and had purchased several different types of weapons, including a rifle, handgun and Taser."

"This is not just a child custody case, it's about the First Amendment," said Oath Keepers founder and President Stewart Rhodes.

Rhodes and the Oath Keepers issued a demand letter to DCYF on Thursday asking for the removal of Oath Keepers from the affidavit.

"We wouldn't be here and this wouldn't be a national issue if our name wasn't in there," he said.

Maggie Bishop, the director of DCYF, has gone on record saying that allegations that the state seized the newborn girl over her father's political affiliations don't reflect the division's policies.

Bishop has declined to discuss the specifics of the case because of confidentiality requirements.

The newborn, Cheyenne, was taken by DCYF officials hours after her birth last Thursday at Concord Hospital.

It has been reported that the DCYF affidavit stated there was a lengthy history of domestic violence between Irish and the baby's mother.

Rhodes said he wasn't concerning himself with the child custody case; his concern is strictly about his group being associated with the case. He fears that people will be hesitant to join the group after hearing about this case.

Rhodes said he would file a lawsuit if the organization's name isn't removed from the affidavit.

"This is a very important case," he said. "We can't have a precedent set that allows them to list people's affiliations whenever CPS (child protective services) comes to your doorstep."

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#3. To: christine (#0)

Johnathon Irish, Stephanie and Cheyenne- Reunited

GreyLmist  posted on  2010-10-15   21:16:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: GreyLmist (#3)

Johnathon Irish, Stephanie and Cheyenne- Reunited

Ahh .... Isn't that cute?

One thing you forgot to bring up is how Stephanie gave up two earlier children because of her own neglect. And Johnny? In the past he has a long string of known violence about him and has refused therapy.

What makes you think Cheyenne has a chance in HELL to survive?

buckeroo  posted on  2010-10-15   21:30:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: buckeroo (#4)

One thing you forgot to bring up is how Stephanie gave up two earlier children because of her own neglect. And Johnny? In the past he has a long string of known violence about him and has refused therapy.

I counted four times in this thread where you said "citation required" or words to that effect. Do you think you shouldn't be required to source your claims, buck, or don't you have anything but gossip? You do realize, don't you, that false accusers have been known to sic CPS and the police on people just to make their lives a misery, swing divorce rulings in their favor, etc.?

What makes you think Cheyenne has a chance in HELL to survive?

Do you believe they'd let her go home to parents they think unfit just to get the Oathkeepers out of the way?

GreyLmist  posted on  2010-10-16   3:20:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: GreyLmist (#7)

Do you believe they'd let her [Cheyenne] go home to parents they think unfit just to get the Oathkeepers out of the way?

As Rhodes said, it is a court of publick opinion.... so yes.

buckeroo  posted on  2010-10-16   14:22:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: buckeroo (#10) (Edited)

Me: Do you believe they'd let her [Cheyenne] go home to parents they think unfit just to get the Oathkeepers out of the way?

You: As Rhodes said, it is a court of publick opinion.... so yes.

What you are essentially saying, then, is that the agency itself is unfit in that it puts its own business interests above the chilldren that it uses to stay funded and in business -- and it is a big business. Isn't that child abuse? Yes, it is and it's also a form of child slavery. What police charges have been filed against these parents to remove 3 children from their home? None that I know of so that amounts to Kidnapping. It's also a violation of the Constitution on several counts, not the least of which is Cruel and Unusual Punishment and without so much as a criminal indictment required. "CPS" denies the accused the right to confront witnesses against them in order to defend themselves. The privacy of accusers is protected by anonymity but some parents aren't even told what they've been accused of, just that they're under investigation by "CPS". There is no due process, no recognition of Parental Rights even to refuse the drugging of their children with Ritilin, etc. Apparently, you condone all of that and you've corroborated none of the claims you've made. All you've done is post a video that shows the only person convicted of violence in this case is the father of Jonathan Irish. Even his anti-2nd Amendment accusations against his son indicates that his son isn't a felon because there are no charges that he's broken any law to acquire guns. It sounds to me like his father is the one who called "CPS" and implicated the Oathkeepers in it. For all you know, he could be trying to ruin them as "payback" for being rejected by Cheyenne's mother. It's possible. The record points to him as an abusive father and so does his loathesome testimonials. He's definitely not the only side to this story:

"Oath Keeper Baby" parents answer critics

GreyLmist  posted on  2010-10-18   6:09:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#27. To: GreyLmist (#26)

It sounds to me like his father is the one who called "CPS" and implicated the Oathkeepers in it.

I hadn't thought of that, but it certainly is possible. In fact, it's more than likely what happened.

Right or wrong, a decent father would not go up to a journalist and spill his guts on how bad a father his own son is, and tell all sorts of lurid stories that will smear his son in the media.

Nope, judging from his words, the man has some issues.

For all you know, he could be trying to ruin them as "payback" for being rejected by Cheyenne's mother. It's possible. The record points to him as an abusive father and so does his loathesome testimonials. He's definitely not the only side to this story:

I didn't know about the abuse from Irish's father. Do you have any info on that?

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-10-18 06:51:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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"Oath Keeper Baby" fam shows controversial document (New Hampshire)

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