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Title: How Religion Is Killing Our Most Vulnerable Youth
Source: Huffington Post
URL Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bisho ... ing-o_b_764568.html?view=print
Published: Oct 15, 2010
Author: Gene Robinson
Post Date: 2010-10-16 11:18:21 by Red Jones
Keywords: None
Views: 289
Comments: 13

How Religion Is Killing Our Most Vulnerable Youth

An increasingly popular bumper sticker reads, "Guns Don't Kill People -- RELIGION Kills People!" In light of recent events I would add religion kills young people: gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender young people.

Perhaps not directly, though. And religion is certainly not the only source of anti-gay sentiment in the culture. But it's hard to deny that religious voices denouncing LGBT people contribute to the atmosphere in which violence against LGBT people and bullying of LGBT youth can flourish.

The news is filled with the tragedies of teenaged boys who were gay and decided to end their living hell by committing suicide. Maybe they weren't even gay, but merely perceived to be by their peers, who harassed, taunted, and threatened them unmercifully.

These were real kids with real names. Asher Brown, an eighth grader in Texas, shot himself in the head after endless bullying by classmates and despite attempts by his parents to get school authorities to take his harassment seriously. Seth Walsh hung himself from a tree in his California backyard after relentless bullying by classmates. Asher and Seth were 13-years-old.

Billy Lucas, a 15-year-old high school freshman from Indiana, was only perceived to be gay. But the unrelenting bullying ended with him taking his own life. Seven students in one Minnesota school district have taken their own lives, including three teens.

With the exception of Brown in Texas these suicides are not happening in Bible Belt regions of the country, where we might predict a greater-than-usual regard for religious thought. Instead, they are occurring in states perceived to be more liberal on LGBT issues: California, Minnesota, New Jersey, and Rhode Island.

The case of Tyler Clementi is especially instructive about how far we have to go in accepting our gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender children. Clementi was an 18-year-old freshman at Rutgers University whose roommate secretly filmed a sexual encounter he had with another male student and then posted it on the internet.

Think about it. If Tyler had been heterosexual and instead filmed having sex with his girlfriend, it would still be an inappropriate invasion of his privacy and tasteless to post the video online. And it certainly would have been embarrassing for Tyler and the girl. But chances are he would have been the recipient of some congratulatory remarks from friends about what a stud he was. And if he was straight he likely wouldn't have contemplated -- not to mention successfully accomplished -- his own suicide by jumping off the George Washington Bridge.

No, Tyler was a victim -- not of an inner disturbance of depression or mental illness--but of an external and in part religiously inspired disdain and hatred of gay people.

Despite the progress we're making on achieving equality under the law and acceptance in society for gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender people, why this rash of bullying, paired with self-loathing, ending in suicide? With humility and heartfelt repentance I assert that religion -- and its general rejection of homosexuality -- plays a crucial role in this crisis.

On the one hand, Religious Right hatemongers and crazies are spewing all sorts of venom and condemnation, all in the name of a loving God. The second-highest-ranking Mormon leader, Boyd K. Packer, recently called same-sex attraction "impure and unnatural" in an act of unspeakable insensitivity at the height of this rash of teen suicides. He declared that it can be cured, and that same-sex unions are morally repugnant and "against God's law and nature."

Just as many gay kids grow up in these conservative denominations as any other. They are told day in and day out that they are an abomination before God. Just consider the sheer numbers of LGBT kids growing up right now in Roman Catholic, Mormon, and other conservative religious households. The pain and self-loathing caused by such a distortion of God's will is undeniable and tragic, causing scars and indescribable self-alienation in these young victims.

You don't have to grow up in a religious household, though, to absorb these religious messages. Not long ago I had a conversation with six gay teens, not one of whom had ever had any formal religious training or influence. Every one of them knew the word "abomination," and every one of them thought that was what God thought of them. They couldn't have located the Book of Leviticus in the Bible if their lives depended on it yet they had absorbed this message from the antigay air they breathe every day.

Add to that the Minnesota Family Council's Tom Prichard recently saying that the real cause of the suicides is "homosexual indoctrination," not antigay bullying, and that the students died because they adopted an "unhealthy lifestyle."

Susan Russell from All Saints Episcopal Church in Pasadena, California, points out how ludicrous these statements are in her "An Inch at a Time" blog:

Thirteen and fifteen year olds are not 'adopting a lifestyle,' they're trying to have a life! They're trying to figure out who they are, who God created them to be and what on earth to do with this confusing bunch of sexual feelings that they're trying to get a handle on. They need role models for healthy relationships -- not judgment and the message that they're condemned to a life of loneliness, isolation and despair.

On the other hand, what's the role of more mainline, more progressive denominations such as mainstream Christianity, Judaism, and Islam in these recent tragedies? Mostly silence. And just like in the days of the AIDS organization Act Up, "silence equals death."

It is not enough for good people -- religious or otherwise -- to simply be feeling more positive toward gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender people. Tolerance and a live-and-let-live attitude beats discrimination and abuse by a mile. But it's not enough. Tolerant people, especially tolerant religious people, need to get over their squeamishness about being vocal advocates and unapologetic supporters of LGBT people. It really is a matter of life and death, as we've seen.

I learned this in my dealing with racism. It's not enough to be tolerant of other races. I benefit from a racist society just by being white. I don't ever have to use the "n" word, treat any person of color with discourtesy, or even think ill of anyone. But as long as I am not working to dismantle the systemic racism that benefits me, a white man, at the expense of people of color, I am a racist. And my faith calls me to become an anti-racist -- pro-active, vocal, and committed.

Some progressive religious groups -- the United Church of Christ, Unitarians, Metropolitan Community Church -- have long been advocates for LGBT people. The Evangelical Lutheran Church of America has recently made great strides in welcoming gay clergy. And my own Episcopal Church has put itself at great risk on behalf of full inclusion of LGBT people in electing two openly gay priests to be bishops.

Still, even in these progressive churches, there is much to be done.

Cody J. Sanders, a Baptist minister and Ph.D. student in pastoral theology and counseling at Brite Divinity School in Fort Worth, Texas, recently wrote on the Religion Dispatches website about how important it is for churches to act:

Ministers who remain in comfortable silence on sexuality must speak out. Churches that have silently embraced gay and lesbian members for years must publicly hang the welcome banner. How long will we continue to limit and qualify our messages of acceptance, inclusion and embrace for the most vulnerable in order to maintain the comfort of those in our communities of faith who are well served by the status quo? In the current climate, equivocating messages of affirmation are overpowered by the religious rhetoric of hatred. Silence only serves to support the toleration of bullying, violence and exclusion. In the face of what has already become the common occurrence of LGBT teen suicide, how long can we wait to respond?

As good Christians and Jews we must work to change the religious thinking, rhetoric, and practice that communicates to our LGBT children that they are despised by their Creator. We must learn to object to anti-gay jokes the way we learned to tell our friends that we would not tolerate racist jokes. We must demand that our schools not only have antibullying policies, but that they follow through on stopping the practice of bullying. We need to lobby our congressional representatives for the Student Non-Discrimination Act (SNDA, H.R. 4530, S. 3390). And we must proclaim openly, loudly, and often that we love our children unconditionally in the way that God does -- always wanting the best and most healthy lives for them.

These bullying behaviors would not exist without the undergirding and the patina of respect provided by religious fervor against LGBT people. It's time for "tolerant" religious people to acknowledge the straight line between the official anti-gay theologies of their denominations and the deaths of these young people. Nothing short of changing our theology of human sexuality will save these young and precious lives.

The Rt. Rev. V. Gene Robinson is the Ninth Episcopal Bishop of New Hampshire and a visiting Senior Fellow at the Center for American Progress, Washington, D.C.


Poster Comment:

I think that the atmosphere of bullying that some 'gay' young people face is caused by 1-the tendency of the public schools to indoctrinate children in an extremely pro-gay manner, 2-the way that some young people pursue this gay lifestyle and personal identification from a young age. Many young people see the pro-gay mentality as not just being wrong, but a threat to our society. and they also have contempt for the gay lifestyle. so they ridicule.

I think that Gene Robinson himself the writer of this piece is a gay fellow. Religious people have a lot of trouble in our society today simply teaching that homosexuality is wrong. Though many people likely a majority feel that it is wrong we do not have leaders who feel comfortable saying so.

our society is going downhill.

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#1. To: Red Jones (#0)

gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender young people.

Religion is responsible for the problems of .00005% of the population?

"If ever this vast country is brought under a single government, it will be one of the most extensive corruption, indifferent and incapable of a wholesome care over so wide a spread of surface. This will not be borne, and you will have to choose between reform and revolution. If I know the spirit of this country, the one or the other is inevitable." - Thomas Jefferson

Turtle  posted on  2010-10-16   11:28:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Red Jones (#0)

these suicides are not happening in Bible Belt regions of the country, where we might predict a greater-than-usual regard for religious thought. Instead, they are occurring in states perceived to be more liberal on LGBT issues: California, Minnesota, New Jersey, and Rhode Island.

These suicides are occuring in bastions of lefties.......somehow I am NOT surprised.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-10-16   11:34:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: abraxas (#2)

These suicides are occuring in bastions of lefties.......somehow I am NOT surprised.

yes, and the young people doing the bullying are doing it (IMHO anyway) as a reaction against the extreme pro-gay indoctrination they get from authority figures in their lives presented to them in the schools. It is not conservative churches indoctrinating these people to do bullying.

as a society we're descending into a moral cesspool. the young people should know to respect others, but they don't. and likewise, they should know that homosexuality is wrong, but they don't. and likewise, they should be modest in sexual matters, but they don't know this either.

our prominent institutions including schools and those who produce the entertainment media are leading our young people directly into the ground.

Psalms 137:1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-10-16   11:45:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Red Jones, all (#0)

I dont know what the Big Deal is. Homosexuality gets a death sentence in the holey bobble. And gawd says that he doesn't change, right? And jebus didnt come to annul da law, right? Something about "jots" and "tittles" if I remember correctly, and I'm sure I remember correctly.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-10-16   11:50:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Red Jones (#3)

our prominent institutions including schools and those who produce the entertainment media are leading our young people directly into the ground.

Well, Red, schools and MSM have always been very poor substitutes for parents.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-10-16   12:03:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Red Jones (#0)

One might ask this question.

Prior to "gays" coming out were there as many suicides etc?????

NO.

We had queers, no more no less than now. They accepted what they were and did NOT get in anyones face. Even in the military, they kept their designs to themselves and there were no problems.

Then they came out of the closet and jumping from bridges became a way out for those that could not handle it.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-10-16   12:14:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Red Jones (#3)

It is not conservative churches indoctrinating these people to do bullying.

Why do you say that? It's conservative churches indoctrinating people into believing that Jesus is a God of war. It's those churches indoctrinating people into believing that it is our Manifest Destiny to eradicate Islam from the face of the Earth and to "make the world safe for Democracy" via death and destruction. It's conservative churches indoctrinating people into believing that in order to be free we must install a police state.

It doesn't seem too far fetched to believe that they are also indoctrinating people into believing that to be a good Christian you must bully faggots and other perverts.

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F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-10-16   13:36:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Red Jones (#0)

Let's Pick this apart:

Bishop V Gene Robinson is a gay bishop, which is amazing that his church allows him to serve as a practicing homosexual. What about the family he abandoned to be gay? Oh well, never mind about them, being gay and open is much more important.

Anyways,

Tyler Clementi's roommate was an Indian guy, pretty sure he wouldn't be warming a seat at Lakewood Church or any other big church.

All these boys' deaths are completely the fault of the parents. I guarantee these parents pleaded helplessly to the school to do their job for them. "Please, sir, stop my son from being bullied. Please, sir. I can't be a man and teach my son how to defend himself, so you do it for me."

Hey dumbass, ever hear of MMA or boxing? Bullying seems to stop abruptly when noses get broken and forearms are applied to the trachea. But, no violence never solves anything. Hey, dad, quit being such a faggot, and teach your kid how to stick up for himself!

echo5sierra  posted on  2010-10-16   14:17:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#7)

It doesn't seem too far fetched to believe that they are also indoctrinating people into believing that to be a good Christian you must bully faggots and other perverts.

I doubt it. These big churches are on the verge of affirming gay relationships themselves. Look at Saddleback and Lakewood Church. Mars Hill probably fits in there too somehow.

echo5sierra  posted on  2010-10-16   14:19:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: echo5sierra (#9)

I doubt it. These big churches are on the verge of affirming gay relationships themselves. Look at Saddleback and Lakewood Church. Mars Hill probably fits in there too somehow.

I do not believe that these large urban Mega-Churches represent the beliefs of small evangelical churches in small town America throughout the Midwest and South.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-10-16   14:26:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Red Jones (#0)

Asher Brown, an eighth grader in Texas, shot himself in the head after endless bullying by classmates and despite attempts by his parents to get school authorities to take his harassment seriously.

Schools appear to deliberately turn a blind eye to bullying.

It's not enough to be tolerant of other races. I benefit from a racist society just by being white. I don't ever have to use the "n" word, treat any person of color with discourtesy, or even think ill of anyone. But as long as I am not working to dismantle the systemic racism that benefits me, a white man, at the expense of people of color, I am a racist.

Ah.. so THAT'S how liberals rationalise the racism thing. lol

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irishthatcherite  posted on  2010-10-16   14:48:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#10)

maybe not Saddleback, but Lakewood has a lot of people who also attend and run the Livestock show and Rodeo. Same people as out in the country.

echo5sierra  posted on  2010-10-16   18:19:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: echo5sierra (#12)

maybe not Saddleback, but Lakewood has a lot of people who also attend and run the Livestock show and Rodeo. Same people as out in the country.

We'll have to agree to disagree. IMO, you'll not find a more bloodthirsty group than evangelicals, be they Southern Baptists, Assemblies of God, Pentecostal or nondenominational. If they had the same power today as the Catholic Church did during the inquisition, the theocracy they would create would make Saudi Arabia look like a Club Med for swingers.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-10-16   18:43:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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