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Title: Why Oath Keepers are Under Attack
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Published: Oct 16, 2010
Author: Stewart Rhodes
Post Date: 2010-10-16 15:19:32 by wakeup
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Views: 2891
Comments: 53

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#2. To: wakeup, Artisan, Original_Intent, wudidiz, Lod, christine (#0)

The more I hear from Rhodes, the more I think people should consider joining the Oath Keepers, or to at least accept the fact they are for real.

We need more people like this guy.

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-10-16   16:02:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: FormerLurker (#2)

Since I'm prolly on every list that they have, why not add OathKeepers to the indictment?

Lod  posted on  2010-10-16   16:08:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Lod (#4)

"I don't want to be on any list but, I will watch your DVD."

When I get this feedback, I reply:
There is only one list and we are all on it.

wakeup  posted on  2010-10-16   17:34:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: wakeup (#6)

Why does Stewart have that flag with the "Gold Fringe" on it?

Itistoolate  posted on  2010-10-16   17:41:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Itistoolate (#8)

Why does Stewart have that flag with the "Gold Fringe" on it?

For God's sake IATL, do you see an ulterior motive behind everything? There are certainly enough conspiracies that ARE in fact true, we don't need to see something sinister in things that aren't.

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-10-16   18:14:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: FormerLurker (#9)

www.apfn.org/apfn/flag.htm

Itistoolate  posted on  2010-10-16   18:37:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Itistoolate (#10)

www.apfn.org/apfn/flag.htm

There's no legitimate evidence which indicates the claims that the fringe means anything special are true.

Besides wild claims, do you personally know of any real evidence which proves those claims are in fact true?

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-10-16   19:49:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: FormerLurker (#13) (Edited)

There's no legitimate evidence which indicates the claims that the fringe means anything special are true.

We all live our lives based on falsehoods, myths and misunderstandings.
Who knows the truth anyway about anything?

My latest wakeup call was a Larken Rose video clip about the Constitution.
It was like being slapped while asleep and I am near 60.
What have I been thinking all this time?
Where exactly is the human refresh button?
'Want to see what I mean?

http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=ngpsJKQR_ZE&feature=player_embedded

wakeup  posted on  2010-10-16   21:18:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: wakeup, FormerLurker (#16)

As fine of a dramatic exercise in futility that Larken Rose presents in the video you posted, it stinks to high heaven.

Larken makes the claim of "moral right to steal" between the basis of the US Constitution and himself granting the same to himself as a function of a piece of paper or script. If he had chosen "immoral right" Larken would have been closer to the truth but he didn't; in fact, he avoids the term altogether, yet "immoral right" is the underscore of his presentation.

The fact is, the US Constitution grants POWER to Congress to levy AND collect taxes ... the concept of morality is moot to any issues regarding POWER much less considering nonsensical considerations of moral equivalency; government has no conscience; government is power.

Nice try but no cigar.

buckeroo  posted on  2010-10-16   21:46:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: buckeroo (#19) (Edited)

The fact is, the US Constitution grants POWER to Congress to levy AND collect taxes

It's a fact?
Oh really?
How so?

wakeup  posted on  2010-10-16   21:52:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: wakeup (#23)

Because Congress has been performing the same for 200 years; and not one tear is shed about "morality."

buckeroo  posted on  2010-10-16   21:54:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: buckeroo (#24) (Edited)

The fact is, the US Constitution grants POWER to Congress to levy AND collect taxes

I was not addressing morality when I questioned your statement. How is it a "fact" that the Constitution grants power? What makes the grant of power, a fact?

wakeup  posted on  2010-10-16   21:58:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: wakeup (#25)

What makes the grant of power, a fact?

Inherently government is nothing but POWER. The founders laid out the framework to limit the same; but, as we all know, those limitations have been trampled.

buckeroo  posted on  2010-10-16   22:07:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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