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Title: LTC Allen West - The Revolution / American Freedom Tour
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Published: Oct 19, 2010
Author: Allen West
Post Date: 2010-10-19 19:45:49 by Flintlock
Keywords: Allen West, Fix Bayonets!
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Poster Comment: Fix Bayonets! No Prisoners!!! You gotta love this guy.
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#24. To: Eric Stratton (#23)
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Sending a good man to Congress is never irrelevant.
WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
He's no fan of the UN Another completely irrelevant issue post-9/11. Today, in 2010, our own US FedGov is far more dangerous to our life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness than the UN ever was or could possibly be if we had a sovereign nation not run by Zionists! This truly is not a difficult concept, yet so many here seem to struggle with it. If this/these wars are not terminated, the costs thereby reduced drastically, and our "homeland" not restored to a pre-9/11 condition, sorry, but we're simply fucked. There's no use in sugar-coating it. It'll be Orwell's 1984 coming alive. I'VE NEVER SEEN SUCH A DISPLAY OF IGNORANCE COMING FROM YOU! 1. The United Nations has its own Constitution. Any member "STATE" must abide by that Constitution. The U.S. Supreme Court has repeatedly upheld that any Treaty made by the U.S. with an outside entity supercedes the U.S. Constitution. The UN, which has its headquarters in New York, the land and building being donated by the Rockefellers, (or was it the Rothschilds? doesn't matter- no difference)is slated to be the military seat of the New World Order. In fact the NNPT is just a weapons confiscations program to arm the UN. The Zionists do not have a seat on the Security Council of the UN. They have signed no Treaties with them. Make of that what you can! 2. True we are a ZOG and have been fighting endless wars for Israel, but to restore our COUNTRY to pre 9/11 conditions is the pipe dream of a complete fool. We need to go back to 1913 to restore this country to pre-Federal Reserve status or we're simply fucked. Re: the Zionists - as Ahmedinejad has said - the Zionist Regime must be ended. That may mean more war, this time with a well armed nuclear state. We signed the NNPT, as did many other nations. Our armed forces are exhausted and depleted. This truly is not a difficult concept, yet so many here seem to struggle with it.
I want either less corruption or more opportunity to participate in it. Ashleigh Brilliant
Semi-articulate black man wants to surf the prevailing political waves into office using empty slogans. Where have I seen this before?
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
Not true, West ran in 08. It's not his first time at bat. Barry Soetoro and his cronies love guys like you.
WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
Really? Will Ron Klein do a better job of protecting what little freedom we have left? Klein never saw a gun law, tax increase, or intrusion on our liberties he didn't like and vote for. So keep on bashing West, you might as well write a check to the DNC.
WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
Which rulings, globalist? And what were those rulings about? A treaty does not supersede the U.S. Constitution. If it did, the president would have used a treaty years ago to abolish the U.S. supreme court.
I could go on, but for those not getting it now, they never will! Nuts and bolts: In a pre-9/11 America the FedGov would have gotten its ass handed to it by "We The People" AND most in the military and LE. In post-9/11 America most of that military an LE have been converted to sociopaths at best, psychotics even worse, and downright psychotics hell bent on killing anyone as long as they have permissions, as all simply await such permission!!! Weaponry has been created while simultaneously breaking the bank and sending us down the river financially, that is and will continue to be used against us as weapons of mass control and frankly, even death as we will one day, likely somewhat soon, see! And ALL OF IT was made possible ONLY due to the existence of some FAIRY TALE designed to do EXACTLY THAT!!! Once again, this truly is not a difficult concept, yet so many here seem to struggle with it. And I'll say it again, the ONLY way for things to continue w/o some kind of epochal societal chaos, can only result in Orwell's 1984 coming to pass! Yup. Yup, Yup. We're in the crosshairs. If we are provoked into riots, and Yahoo mobs led by Zionist provocateurs - we're fucked. If we do nothing - we're fucked. The War on Terrorism Hoax was pulled off without a hitch. It is designed to last a hundred years for the benefit of the Zionist Regime aka International Bankers. Most likely it will result in WW3, which will accomplish both indecent profits for the IMF and mass decimation of the population. Either way, they will accomplish their goal..A New World Order. Notice the ramping up of their agenda...continuing the Global Warming Hoax, pushing the Peak Oil Scare, the Unsustainability Issues make Genocide and Euthanasia look like attractive alternatives. The continuous suspicious reports of shootings on campuses and now the Pentagon, will feed the gun control issue until we are totally disarmed. Yup. Yup, Yup. We're fucked! So, what can be done?
I want either less corruption or more opportunity to participate in it. Ashleigh Brilliant
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
I'm not going to debate your "purity litmus test", life rarely gives you what you want. Why don't you dig up the dirt on Klein's website? Unless, of course you support a Democrat controlled Congress? Do you? If you don't see West as a significant improvement over Klein, you're blind
WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)
Gun and ammo sales are at record high. And the campus shootings actually backfire on the fascists, making more people support gun ownership rights. That is two for two that you are caught being wrong.
You seem to struggle with political reality You've admitted so much that you're a DemonRAT supporter, why not fly over to the nest and be with your fellow comrades? We need to break the stranglehold Obama & Pelosi have on this country, yet you obstruct, why is that?
WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)
I believe you are mistaken on this. I believe that Reid v. Covert answered this question - at least for now. Since our rule of law/justice system is completely arbitrary, that can easily change if it fits the needs of the government.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi
Well then you should feel quite at ease since you are wrong just about every time you open your mouth.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi
Refer to Article Six of the U.S. Constitution: This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding. Also refer to the Charter of the United Nations - Chapter 2, Article 3: The original Members of the United Nations shall be the states which, having participated in the United Nations Conference on International Organization at San Francisco, or having previously signed the Declaration by United Nations of 1 January 1942, sign the present Charter and ratify it in accordance with Article 110. Refer to Article 110: 1. The present Charter shall be ratified by the signatory states in accordance with their respective constitutional processes. 2. The ratifications shall be deposited with the Government of the United States of America, which shall notify all the signatory states of each deposit as well as the Secretary-General of the Organization when he has been appointed. 3. The present Charter shall come into force upon the deposit of ratifications by the Republic of China, France, the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and the United States of America, and by a majority of the other signatory states. A protocol of the ratifications deposited shall thereupon be drawn up by the Government of the United States of America which shall communicate copies thereof to all the signatory states. 4. The states signatory to the present Charter which ratify it after it has come into force will become original Members of the United Nations on the date of the deposit of their respective ratifications. This means the Treaty with the United Nations according to Article six of the U.S. Constitution is now a part of the Supreme Law of the Land, the Constitution notwithstanding. Also it has been fully ratified according to the Articles 3 and 110 of the Charter of the United Nations. We're Fucked! Get over it. P.S. AngK -3 PaulCJ - 0
I want either less corruption or more opportunity to participate in it. Ashleigh Brilliant
With all due respect, the Reid vs Covert case was in regard to an executive agreement- Not a treaty! A sole-executive agreement can only be negotiated and entered into through the president's authority (1) in foreign policy, (2) as commander-in-chief of the armed forces, (3) from a prior act of Congress, or (4) from a prior treaty.[1] Agreements beyond these competencies must have the approval of Congress (for congressional-executive agreements) or the Senate (for treaties) In this case the litigant was the wife of a military officer. Furthermore, the case IN NO WAY set a precedent for the status of Treaties that have been ratified by the two-thirds of the Senate.
I want either less corruption or more opportunity to participate in it. Ashleigh Brilliant
That is two for two that you are caught being wrong Paul, an opinion is never wrong. It is just an opinion!
I want either less corruption or more opportunity to participate in it. Ashleigh Brilliant
"Notwithstanding": in spite of; without being opposed or prevented by: dictionary.reference.com/browse/notwithstanding "To the Contrary notwithstanding" means that federal law and those protections stated in U.S. constitution overrules treaties. A treaty cannot overrule the U.S. constitution. If a treaty could then we would have an absolute dictatorship overnight by a simple two-thirds vote in the U.S. senate. The founding father understood this, that is why they included "To the Contrary notwithstanding".
If not, then no, we don't have to love this guy, he's part of the problem, not a part of the solution. Sliced through to the nut.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" Paul, Are you Dim? Let me translate for you, using your dictionary definition of notwithstanding in a sentence that you can understand. This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, without being opposed or prevented by any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary. Do I need to clarify further?
I want either less corruption or more opportunity to participate in it. Ashleigh Brilliant
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
Do I need to clarify further? The only 'dim' person here is you. You are the only who needs to point to be further clarified. I quoted the key phrase of words; "to the Contrary notwithstanding". A lot of the U.S. Constitution has little loopholes to prevent the tyranny of what you argue for. You don't not understand what you are talking about. You are arguing for tyranny, whereas I am arguing for freedom. Even if you win you still lose, because all you would have done is shackled yourself to chains. You are willing to foolishly enough to condemn everyone just to proof you are 'right'. Such stupidity on your part is one of the major problems in this world. Now admit I am right, because the alternative, which is 'tyranny', cannot be allowed to be defended.
No bones were thrown his way. There's only so many and the poochies need their food.
Now admit I am right, because the alternative, which is 'tyranny', cannot be allowed to be defended. This is the last time I will respone to your inane comments. I am not trying to proof, or even prove, that I am right. I am trying to educate you, so you can comprehend the dire situation in which we find ourselves. I am certainly not defending tyranny. Tyranny is already a fact of life, which is what I am showing you. Just because you wish it were not so, does not make you right. Don't you understand that? IF YOU CAN'T STAND THE HEAT,GET OUT OF THE KITCHEN! You are like a poor little boy who wishes he was rich so he goes out and buys a car, just to proof-prove he can afford it. How sad!
I want either less corruption or more opportunity to participate in it. Ashleigh Brilliant
Key point, thanks - Agreements beyond these competencies must have the approval of Congress (for congressional-executive agreements) or the Senate (for treaties) Don't forget ratification by the Senate!
Doh. I guess that approval and ratification are the same... Next.
Bump for good dialog and understanding.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
The Constitution supersedes all treaties ratified by the United States Senate. The military may not try the civilian wife of a soldier under military jurisdiction. http://www.constitution.org/ussc/354-001a.htm From the decision itself, written by Justice Black, Chief Justice Douglas, and Justice Brennan ..."II. At the time of Mrs. Covert's alleged offense, an executive agreement was in effect between the United States and Great Britain which permitted United States' military courts to exercise exclusive jurisdiction over offenses committed in Great Britain by American servicemen or their dependents. 29 For its part, the United States agreed that these military courts would be willing and able to try and to punish all offenses against the laws of Great Britain by such persons. In all material respects, the same situation existed in Japan when Mrs. Smith [354 U.S. 1, 16] killed her husband. 30 Even though a court-martial does not give an accused trial by jury and other Bill of Rights protections, the Government contends that Art. 2 (11) of the UCMJ, insofar as it provides for the military trial of dependents accompanying the armed forces in Great Britain and Japan, can be sustained as legislation which is necessary and proper to carry out the United States' obligations under the international agreements made with those countries. The obvious and decisive answer to this, of course, is that no agreement with a foreign nation can confer power on the Congress, or on any other branch of Government, which is free from the restraints of the Constitution. Article VI, the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution, declares: "This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land;... ." There is nothing in this language which intimates that treaties and laws enacted pursuant to them do not have to comply with the provisions of the Constitution. Nor is there anything in the debates which accompanied the drafting and ratification of the Constitution which even suggests such a result. These debates as well as the history that surrounds the adoption of the treaty provision in Article VI make it clear that the reason treaties were not limited to those made in "pursuance" of the Constitution was so that agreements made by the United States under the Articles of Confederation, including the important peace treaties which concluded the Revolutionary [354 U.S. 1, 17] War, would remain in effect. 31 It would be manifestly contrary to the objectives of those who created the Constitution, as well as those who were responsible for the Bill of Rights — let alone alien to our entire constitutional history and tradition — to construe Article VI as permitting the United States to exercise power under an international agreement without observing constitutional prohibitions. 32 There is nothing new or unique about what we say here. This Court has regularly and uniformly recognized the supremacy of the Constitution over a treaty. 33 For example, in Geofroy v. Riggs, 133 U.S. 258, 267 , it declared: "The treaty power, as expressed in the Constitution, is in terms unlimited except by those restraints which are found in that instrument against the action of the government or of its departments, and those arising from the nature of the government itself and of that of the States. It would not be contended that it extends so far as to authorize what the Constitution forbids, or a change in the character of the [354 U.S. 1, 18] government or in that of one of the States, or a cession of any portion of the territory of the latter, without its consent." This Court has also repeatedly taken the position that an Act of Congress, which must comply with the Constitution, is on a full parity with a treaty, and that when a statute which is subsequent in time is inconsistent with a treaty, the statute to the extent of conflict renders the treaty null. 34 It would be completely anomalous to say that a treaty need not comply with the Constitution when such an agreement can be overridden by a statute that must conform to that instrument. There is nothing in Missouri v. Holland, 252 U.S. 416 , which is contrary to the position taken here. There the Court carefully noted that the treaty involved was not inconsistent with any specific provision of the Constitution. The Court was concerned with the Tenth Amendment which reserves to the States or the people all power not delegated to the National Government. To the extent that the United States can validly make treaties, the people and the States have delegated their power to the National Government and the Tenth Amendment is no barrier. 35
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi
No, it's not. You have just convinced yourself it is. And you will argue that it is to try to justify how much you limit yourself. You are the sad one here. You don't know what tyranny is. And you are on a path of self-destruction.
Paul, tyranny is a fact of life in America everyday Congress is in session. You see the same practiced every day in America and not just on the federal level but ALL levels of government. Even dog catchers on the local level are caught asleep ignoring their own responsibilities and mushrooming to the federal level is the same but magnified by BILLIONS of times ... just look at the illegal alien issue which includes 9/11.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
Collapse yes, tyranny no. That because you are to rapped up to see what is going on.
Why do you not see the tyranny in front of you, everyday, year after year after year? I wager you vote, too. You will vote for either a republican or democrat party member to represent you, again and again and again.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
You don't even know what tyranny is. Tyranny is where government controls every aspect of a person's life. What to eat, where to live, where to work, whom to talk to, what to wear, what to believe. There are no elections in a tyranny. There is no private ownership of guns in a tyranny. And if you speak you mind you will likely be sent to an labor camp, gulag, or torture dungeon somewhere. This nation is a toss up right now. To many factors to figure which way this nation is heading.
Lets see now, the USgovernments on all levels throughout my existence in America have practiced tyranny. After WW2 to today, there has been a battlecry by all levels of government to hoodink, swindle and create the greatest manifestation of fraud to anyone checking out the outcome of responsible government actions from time to time. I wager I can cite examples here in the land of the free and liberty. No it isn't. You are blind. Tyranny is about the lack of fulfillment of an agreed upon oath by anyone; in effect they are liars to not just themselves but everyone around themselves. Sure there are. You simply rubber-stamp those selected to run for office. So what? Get off your WW2 Russian, German high-horse. REALLY? How come over the past 50 years America has consistently gone downhill?
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
You are the blind one.
You talk about "tyranny" as though it is a reserved word for past governance around the world beyond your control. You suggest WW2 Germany and Russia. Are you daft? Tyranny is right here in America. Where do you see a popular MSM discussion about individual rights, liberties or freedoms; where do you see ANY elected leader discussing the same? America is all fucked-upped and the main reason is because you are blind.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
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#25. To: Flintlock, All (#24)
#26. To: Eric Stratton (#23)
#27. To: Flintlock (#0)
#28. To: angK (#26)
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#29. To: Brutus (#27)
#30. To: Brutus (#27)
Semi-articulate black man wants to surf the prevailing political waves
#31. To: Eric Stratton (#14)
#32. To: ghostdogtxn (#31)
Excellent.
#33. To: Flintlock (#32)
#34. To: angK (#26)
U.S. Supreme Court has repeatedly upheld that any Treaty made by the U.S. with an outside entity supercedes the U.S. Constitution.
#35. To: Eric Stratton (#28)
Come on, give it a good college try guess! Yeah, a "state of emergency" would be declared, a good "old fashioned" can of whupass using modern weaponry only seen in the ME Wars to date would be used to quell ANY insurrection, uprising, riots, dissensions, ... whatever you wish to call them, all under the guise that "the FedGov was under attack by 'TERRORIST' actions!"
#36. To: Flintlock (#32)
#37. To: angK (#35)
#38. To: ghostdogtxn (#33)
if he's gung-ho for the wars, he's automatically standing against freedom.
#39. To: angK (#35)
The continuous suspicious reports of shootings on campuses and now the Pentagon, will feed the gun control issue until we are totally disarmed. Yup. Yup, Yup. We're fucked!
#40. To: Eric Stratton (#28)
yet so many here seem to struggle with it.
#41. To: angK (#26)
The U.S. Supreme Court has repeatedly upheld that any Treaty made by the U.S. with an outside entity supercedes the U.S. Constitution.
#42. To: PaulCJ (#39)
That is two for two that you are caught being wrong.
#43. To: PaulCJ (#34)
#44. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#41)
#45. To: PaulCJ (#39)
Gun and ammo sales are at record high. And the campus shootings actually backfire on the fascists, making more people support gun ownership rights.
#46. To: angK (#43)
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This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.
#47. To: Eric Stratton (#1)
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Is there a part in there where he calls for an immediate end to the ZOG's wars and the financial/economic misery that they've caused and continue to cause, ... not to mention the terminal erosion of our civil liberties???
#48. To: PaulCJ (#46)
To the Contrary notwithstanding" means that federal law and those protections stated in U.S. constitution overrules treaties.
#49. To: angK (#48)
#50. To: angK (#48)
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Paul, Are you Dim? Let me translate for you, using your dictionary definition of notwithstanding in a sentence that you can understand.
#51. To: Eric Stratton, 4 (#17)
#52. To: PaulCJ (#50)
You are willing to foolishly enough to condemn everyone just to proof you are 'right'. Such stupidity on your part is one of the major problems in this world.
#53. To: angK, 4 (#44)
#54. To: lod (#53)
#55. To: angK, GreyLmist (#48)
#56. To: angK (#44)
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With all due respect, the Reid vs Covert case was in regard to an executive agreement- Not a treaty!
#57. To: angK (#52)
Tyranny is already a fact of life,
#58. To: PaulCJ (#57)
#59. To: buckeroo (#58)
Paul, tyranny is a fact of life in America everyday Congress is in session. You see the same practiced every day in America and not just on the federal level but ALL levels of government.
#60. To: PaulCJ (#59)
#61. To: buckeroo (#60)
Why do you not see the tyranny in front of you, everyday, year after year after year?
#62. To: PaulCJ (#61)
You don't even know what tyranny is.
Tyranny is where government controls every aspect of a person's life. What to eat, where to live, where to work, whom to talk to, what to wear, what to believe.
There are no elections in a tyranny.
There is no private ownership of guns in a tyranny.
And if you speak you mind you will likely be sent to an labor camp, gulag, or torture dungeon somewhere.
This nation is a toss up right now. To many factors to figure which way this nation is heading.
#63. To: buckeroo (#62)
I wager I can cite examples here in the land of the free and liberty. No it isn't. You are blind.
#64. To: PaulCJ (#63)
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