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Title: Allen West - Too Extreme
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Published: Oct 21, 2010
Author: Ron Klein
Post Date: 2010-10-21 09:13:57 by Flintlock
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#98. To: noone222, christine (#97)

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wudidiz  posted on  2010-10-21   13:33:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: wudidiz (#98)

No such Article number: ""

Go to Christine's post at #93 ... I viewed it by clicking on the url there.

"Politics and Religion are the building blocks of slavery and oppression. Greed is the mortar that bonds them" and bankers are the masons with trowels in hand !

noone222  posted on  2010-10-21   13:39:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Jethro Tull, All (#87)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-10-21   13:53:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Jethro Tull (#87)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-10-21   13:53:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Cynicom (#90)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-10-21   13:54:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: christine, All (#91)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-10-21   13:55:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: Eric Stratton (#100) (Edited)

the democrat politicians are every bit the warmongers and every bit in the pocket of Israel as are the republicans. War is the Health of the State. that's the principle they govern by. and, take into consideration this fact.

When you sit down and really analyze it, you quickly realize that there is no way that the U.S. government can be extricated from the U.S. economy now. Instead of the free enterprise system that we once had in this country, today we have a situation where the U.S. government has become the very core of the economy. It is the hub around which everything else in the economy revolves.

none of this is going to change short term, so it simply comes down to some degree of gridlock on issues of lesser importance for this election. i admit that for some, maybe even myself, it might just be a desire to get rid of personalities that are the most despicable to us. and it's never good when either Rs or Ds have control of all branches of government.

christine  posted on  2010-10-21   14:34:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: Eric Stratton (#100)

Did you ever stop to think that the reason why our FedGov has in essence given up on the 2A rights agenda, or perhaps rather the evidence of it, is this militarized domestic police state buildup???

What good is a handgun or shotgun, or even a rifle, if the people armed against you have a hundred times the firepower and infinitely more license to use them?!

Honestly, please answer that, then reconsider your position here!

Eric, it's possible for one, very motivated man to take down an entire precinct in a major city. Not that I know anyone that would, I'm just saying.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-10-21   14:34:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: Jethro Tull (#105)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-10-21   14:41:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: Jethro Tull (#105)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-10-21   14:42:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: christine (#104)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-10-21   14:45:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: Eric Stratton, 4, *Obama Reality Check* (#106)

Sure, and when you sober up, take off the Spiderman leotards, and take a gander through the annuls of history sometime.

LOL

You're rolling off the rails, kiddo. Why don't you stop worrying about ZoG, FoG and SmoG and smell the roses (or in your case the cages THEY are constructing for us :))

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-10-21   14:47:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: Eric Stratton (#102)

Nor will one emerge in this system.

The one with a slight chance of survival was Traficant, he has gone mute and faded into the woodwork.

No way is the system going to allow itself to be taken down, within or without.

The rule of the gun will come first.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-10-21   15:03:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: Jethro Tull (#109)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-10-21   15:46:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: Eric Stratton (#108)

But they never installed A, the military on our soil, B, created the DHS/HOSE, C, revoked Posse Comitatus and Habeus Corpus, D, drafted the Patriot Act, etc., etc., et al., and etc.

you think that republicans did this all on their own? wasn't the PA drafted when clinton was in office? it had been prepared in advance of 9/11 which was a planned event for how long? also, can you elaborate on A?

christine  posted on  2010-10-21   15:48:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: christine (#112)

The chimperor started the ball rolling with his' it's just a gd piece of paper; this regime has picked up said ball and is running with it very nicely indeed.

The gutless/complicit/corrupt congress goes along with it.

Lod  posted on  2010-10-21   15:54:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: Cynicom, All (#110)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-10-21   15:55:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: Eric Stratton (#114)

What I find is funny is JT, Flintlock, and christine's arguments in favor of voting for a clown like West while simultaneously telling me out of the other side that it's all the same as the FedGov acts as one when that's been my primary point forever and a day here.

We all have to do as our conscience dictates.

I did my civic duty for untold years, to no avail.

What is right, the best, or moral becomes meaningless, when the candidates are preselected for you, by the same people.

I use to think the 80 million that did not vote were shirking their duties, however, for whatever reason, the fact they do NOT vote speaks volumes.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-10-21   16:04:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: Eric Stratton (#100)

And BTW, I'd like to see you go ask West, and please do, whether he favors the public purchasing the same caliber and magnitude of weaponry that our FedGov has for use against "civil unrest?" Go ahead, ask him and see what he says!

I think the people who support West should ask him if he believes that American citizens have the right to any weapon that any soldier can carry in the field. Of course he will say no (at least I think he will) and that will prove that he is no fan of the second amendment.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-10-21   16:09:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: Eric Stratton, 4 (#111)

Otherwise, seriously, while I don't give a s**t about myself, I am worried about my kids and the future that they'll have, perhaps without me. That's definitely worth considering

Yes, and consider where we'd all be if we lose the right to communicate freely? As ridiculous as that once sounded to me, the PC code has never been more powerful, and our 1st Amendment right never more endangered.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-10-21   16:13:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: christine (#112) (Edited)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-10-21   16:35:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: Cynicom (#115)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-10-21   16:38:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: Jethro Tull (#117)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-10-21   16:44:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: Eric Stratton (#118)

i have to get going here. i'll read your link when i get back.

i was thinking. am i correct when i conclude that you think the Ds are the lesser of the two evils and that your opinion is that we're better off with Ds in control of the house and the presidency?

christine  posted on  2010-10-21   16:46:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: Eric Stratton (#120)

I have to tell you I feel like banging my head against a commode.

Relax comrade. #1, the Ds could still pull it out. #2, if we get gridlock, Obama the commie coon just might be slowed down, and #3, should the Rs take the House, whites will be vilified as racists which always delights me because each time the insult is hurled, it becomes less potent thus causing more dopey whites to wake up. I simply don't get why you give a flying fig about how I'm planning to spend 5 minutes of my time on 11/2. It's my business, just as what you do is your business. If I'm right, you lose nothing since your Doom & Gloom flag is waving on high. If I'm wrong, it does nothing to halt the progress of those wicked imps I'm suppose to fear from the dreaded FedGov. As I said previously, f**k 'em and the Black suburban they rode in on.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-10-21   16:56:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: Eric Stratton (#118) (Edited)

It had to be sold to the American People christine

another quick response...Obama - the Nobel Peace Prize recipient. look at the conflicts he's escalating - the good little puppet boy..so we have all the same shit as we had with bush plus lots more of leftist shit including multiculturalism and political correctness gone wild along with it.

christine  posted on  2010-10-21   17:00:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: christine (#123) (Edited)

Yeah, Obama is worse than Bush. I used to think that whatever president we had been saddled with that it couldn't get any worse. The next (s)election just about invariably proved me wrong, they get worse every time. While I thought we had surely hit the bottom of the barrel with Bush it seems that Obama knocked the bottom out of the barrel and Congress threw him a shovel and he started digging. Only actual work he's done in his life is destroying America.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-10-21   17:05:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: James Deffenbach, Christine (#124)

The next (s)election just about invariably proved me wrong, they get worse every time.

To my recall, Bush Jr. presided over more laws being enacted to enchain American citizens than any other of my time. All in the name of "security" of course and Americans accepted them without a whimper.

I do NOT recall in my time a President that actually sought a smaller government. As for the most inept President, the laurels go to Obama, a man totally in over his head, made president solely because he is black.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-10-21   17:50:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: TooConservative (#15)

Part of the Dems' strategy of painting GOP candidates as "too extreme".


Anything other than UNIVERSAL DOOM is too extreme.

Democrats don't mind war as long as they can have big government. Republicans don't mind big government as long as they can have war.
If you believe in small government, then you shouldn't be in the White House.

PnbC  posted on  2010-10-21   18:10:45 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: Eric Stratton, Jethro Tull (#100)

What good is a handgun or shotgun, or even a rifle, if the people armed against you have a hundred times the firepower and infinitely more license to use them?!

It's fun and challenging to beat the JBT's at their own game, especially when they are over-confident. Jethro Tull is right, one man can do a LOT of damage and get away to do some more.

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"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?"

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2010-10-21   19:27:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: christine (#121)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-10-21   19:49:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: Jethro Tull (#122)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-10-21   19:51:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: Eric Stratton, 4 (#129)

I am somewhat disturbed when I see people putting money (tax cuts) ahead of liberty however.

It's OUR money and you actually lose liberty faster when it's gobbled up by big government. Hope that helps.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-10-21   19:58:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: christine (#123)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-10-21   20:00:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: Jethro Tull (#130)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-10-21   20:01:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: X-15, 4 (#127)

one man can do a LOT of damage and get away to do some more.

Bingo, X-15. Men will always act like men, each in his individual way. Others, not so much.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-10-21   20:05:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: Eric Stratton (#132)

OK, it's quite obvious that you don't understand anything that I said.

Oh, I understand it. I simply disagree.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-10-21   20:07:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: Jethro Tull (#134)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-10-21   20:08:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: Eric Stratton (#131)

Frankly, I'm not sure it makes a huge difference since there will always be more than enough rah-rah gung-ho Rambo types like West, Tits, and McCucaracha to keep the horror scenario looming.

You forgot to mention "pills_boy_Limbaugh" ... another faux conservative.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-10-21   20:12:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: Eric Stratton, 4 (#135)

No, your post clearly implies that you don't.

The tax post? It's elementary. The LESS money central government confiscates, the SMALLER it becomes. The SMALLER it becomes, the more your liberty will grow.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-10-21   20:18:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: buckeroo (#136)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-10-21   20:21:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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