Title: Allen West - Too Extreme Source:
[None] URL Source:[None] Published:Oct 21, 2010 Author:Ron Klein Post Date:2010-10-21 09:13:57 by Flintlock Keywords:None Views:3079 Comments:175
You seem to have difficulty in determining how the final nails will be put into the coffin of your liberties.
Eric, not to be argumentative here, but some of us have been kicking around these issues long before you have. I won't bore you with my personal story, but let me say this; you haven't a monopoly on understanding the issues nor their critical nature. We disagree on how to step back off the edge of the cliff, and for me at least, I'm no longer going to walk around like Marley's ghost covered with chains. I have a life to live and if and when the perfect candidate appears on the scene, perhaps we can both work for h/she.
Klein may be a Zionist too, but I don't see the expenses for the wars being pushed nearly as hard from the left.
Yeah, lets bag this since nothing either of us will say is going to change minds or opinion regarding this election cycle. I will say this about wars. christine once posted a great flow chart regarding them, and under which administration - a D or an R - the war(s) began. maybe she can find it. Also, my first presidential vote was for Nixon who ran as a "end the war with honor" candidate. Vietnam was JFKs & JBJs baby.
Here’s a little insight to those that love to paint Republicans as war mongers. Anyone remember that unpopular little war in Southeast Asia called Vietnam? According to wikipedia, John F. Kennedy (D) escalated our involvement in the Vietnam conflict by committing our armed forces to duty for a war in which we were never attacked. Sounds like some familiar talking points huh? By the time the Vietnam War ended, over 8 million servicemen and women had served. EIGHT MILLION. Over 58,000 were killed and nearly 2,000 missing.
Let’s step back a few years to 1917 when Woodrow Wilson (D) declared war on Germany and marked our entrance into World War I. The USA suffered nearly 117,000 casualties. The US homeland was never attacked, but rather some US merchant ships had been attacked in international waters by Germany. Supposedly that was enough for Wilson to declare war after running a no-war policy to get elected.
Onward to World War II. In 1941, Franklin D. Roosevelt (D) declared war on Japan (and rightly so) after Japan bombed Pearl Harbor. So why did we attack Germany, after all – they hadn’t attacked us? The US suffered nearly 417,000 casualties in World War II.
In 1950, Harry S. Truman (D) led the United States into a proxy war against Communist ideals (Soviet Union) via North Korea. The United Nations authorized force under US commanders. Once again, the United States was never attacked and how coincidental that the UN authorized such a measure. The USA lost approximately 390,000 service members in the Korean conflict.
William Jefferson Clinton (D) appointed use of the US military to stop the bloodshed in Yugoslavia which was brokered by NATO. Supposedly there was genocide taking place in Yugoslavia, which was found to be untrue after the war had ended. The USA was never attacked and none of its interests were in jeopardy. Many saw this as a diversion from the Monica Lewinsky scandal to dominate the news cycle. I’d also like to throw in this tidbit for our beloved Human Shield, Sean Penn of Hollywood. President Clinton, “Together we must also confront the new hazards of chemical and biological weapons, and the outlaw states, terrorists and organized criminals seeking to acquire them. Saddam Hussein has spent the better part of this decade, and much of his nation’s wealth, not on providing for the Iraqi people, but on developing nuclear, chemical and biological weapons and the missiles to deliver them. The United Nations weapons inspectors have done a truly remarkable job, finding and destroying more of Iraq’s arsenal than was destroyed during the entire gulf war. Now, Saddam Hussein wants to stop them from completing their mission. I know I speak for everyone in this chamber, Republicans and Democrats, when I say to Saddam Hussein, “You cannot defy the will of the world,” and when I say to him, “You have used weapons of mass destruction before; we are determined to deny you the capacity to use them again.” Even Al Gore (D) as Senator ridiculed George H. W. Bush for not taking out Saddam in Operation Desert Storm. Yes, that’s the same guy that called us going into Iraq a miscalculated blunder by George Bush.
The President’s job above all else is to protect the American people, but I guess that’s only true if you’re a Democrat President? High ranking US Senators and Representatives all saw the same intelligence that the President saw and the majority of them voted for the war. Saddam Hussein broke one UN resolution after another with no penalty from the UN and committed PROVEN genocide among his people where he DID have WMDs where he gassed his own people. Where’s the outrage from bleeding heart compassionate liberals? Where’s the outrage when Saddam’s sons both marveled at TORTURING (yes the same torture that almost every liberal on Capitol Hill is against) members of Iraq’s Olympic Team when they failed to medal.
Ok let’s play politics. What if George W. Bush never sent us into the Iraq that Bill Clinton touted as a rogue nation? What if everyone followed Barack Obama’s lead? Let’s say that Saddam Hussein did have WMDs and handed them off to terrorists to use in the form of a suitcase nuke in NYC and scores were killed. What then? Who would be blamed? Not Obama. Don’t be so quick to jump on the Beat-up Bush Bandwagon until you have walked in his shoes.
Operation Iraqi Freedom resulted in just over 4,000 US casualties vs nearly 1 MILLION that were killed in all the other wars combined. Wow, I think I can stop now.
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this isn't the list i had posted before. i couldn't find it and this was written by a Bush acolyte. still, the point is that D politicians are as responsible for the involvement in this country's wars as Rs, if not moreso.
The people of America no longer enjoy "any" benefit by having a FEDERAL Government. As a matter of fact they've only become addicted to the FEDS because of the continuous beatings and abuses the FEDS serve up.
Whoever said that we are born to be the FEDS butt babies ?
When you sit down and really analyze it, you quickly realize that there is no way that the U.S. government can be extricated from the U.S. economy now. Instead of the free enterprise system that we once had in this country, today we have a situation where the U.S. government has become the very core of the economy. It is the hub around which everything else in the economy revolves.
America is headed for an unprecedented economic collapse, and the U.S. government is leading the way. If you can get financially independent, now is the time to try to do that, but the reality is that we will all feel massive economic pain when this thing comes crashing down.