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Title: Our Masters, Not Muslims, Are the Enemy
Source: The New American
URL Source: [None]
Published: Oct 22, 2010
Author: Becky Akers
Post Date: 2010-10-22 11:06:50 by ghostdogtxn
Keywords: None
Views: 1838
Comments: 96

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#17. To: ghostdogtxn, christine, HighLairEon, Lod, wudidiz, TwentyTwelve, James Deffenbach, CadetD, abraxas, farmfriend, Jethro Tull, all (#0)

And again, I’m puzzled. Why does the threat of Islamic tyranny rile so many Americans? These are folks who shrug each time the Feds decree they’ll eavesdrop on more of our communications, who queue up at airport checkpoints despite the Transportation Security Administration’s strip-search X-ray machines, who condemn Social Security not for its communism but because its “benefits” aren’t munificent enough, who cheered as the government incinerated whole families at Waco and shot a mother holding her baby, a boy, and his dog at Ruby Ridge, who applaud the Warriors on Drug Users as they ruin life after life over a few joints or a gram of cocaine. Really, can Sharia law be any more dictatorial, merciless, or absurd?

I might also understand the abhorrence for Muslims were it directed against those who persecute our Christian brothers and sisters. But it isn’t: these emails never mention the Church militant; the authors seem neither to know nor to care that Christians under Islamic governments suffer horrendously. They are instead solely concerned for the neoconservative agenda — even if they have can’t get the story straight as to whether it’s Paris or New York that Moslem prayers endanger.

This is not rocket science but it does require shedding a few illusions, and there are actually two causes although one is used to play on the other.

1. Xenophobia i.e., an irrational fear of others who do not belong to one's group, race, religion, or locale. It has been given some interesting justifications, all false, throughout history.

A lot of terms have been invented simply to describe other people in terms of their "otherness". There is everything from the simple "them", "those people", or actual regional terms such as the Germanic "auslander" (outlander).

2. This is the created fear or irrational hatred which is brought about by government manipulation or by psychotics trying to get others to join them in a "good hate".

All governments that seek to control individual behavior both directly and indirectly have always found it "useful" to have someone other than themselves to have for people to focus on and attribute a threat to etc., ....

The current "bogeyman" is the Muslim. One can see the constant drumbeat of scare stories, fear mongering, intolerance, and open hatred echoing throughout the major media. If you begin watching for it you'll notice it cropping up everywhere in the major media. It is disguised and hidden as to what it is by terms such as "analysis", reports, etc., ..., but the common thread between all of them is that they encourage the emotion of fear. I would argue in fact that it is virtually impossible to hate someone unless you fear them. That fear does not require any basis in fact but simply the perception of fear, the sensation of fear.

So, we get the constant drumbeat of scare stories to inspire fear and then the subtle encouragements to hate - to focus on "the enemy". You know, "them", "those people", the "auslanders".

Annoyance and irritation over the invasion of one culture by another is not necessarily hate. It is the recognition that the "auslander" is simply different, possibly disruptive of the common culture, and may in fact have a different culture, language, and set of reactions to events in the environment, but it is not necessarily "hate". It is simply the recognition of a disruptive difference.

The current wave of hatred directed at Muslims is best viewed as Propaganda, a Psychological Manipulation, to focus group and individual attention to a perceived "threat" thus inspiring fear, and hence hatred. It is a created scenario and it its intent would seem clear - to justify actions taken by the government which would otherwise be opposed by large numbers of people.

Useful to know here is the "Third Party Law": "For a conflict to exist between two groups, or individuals", there must be a third party unknown to both who is agitating, encouraging, and creating the conflict."

The other point here to the manipulation is to direct attention away from real enemies to "perceived enemies" and giving cover to those creating the conflict from covert reasoning i.e., a hidden agenda.

At that point I think I'll pause the analysis rather than going in any depth as to what the agenda is, and whose it is, other than to say that it is a control agenda i.e., a means of exercising control and thus power over American Society.

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-10-22   15:23:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Original_Intent (#17)

The current wave of hatred directed at Muslims is best viewed as Propaganda, a Psychological Manipulation, to focus group and individual attention to a perceived "threat" thus inspiring fear, and hence hatred.

Oh sure. You are the kind of flippant demon possessed Internet poster, that begged for Juan Williams to be fired from his otherwise extortionists.

You don't understand social/cultural shifts do you, OBIE-WAN? Man you have a lot to learn in life, pal.

buckeroo  posted on  2010-10-22   15:49:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Original_Intent, buckeroo, *ban buckeroo* (#19)

Man you have a lot to learn in life, pal.

Hypocrisy ping

wudidiz  posted on  2010-10-22   15:53:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: wudidiz (#21)

Between space aliens, chemtrails, FEMA caskets and the belief that 9/11 was caused by "dancing Jews", beyond the Rothchild's directing the BP Gul oil disaster ... you need to get a life, too.

buckeroo  posted on  2010-10-22   16:00:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: buckeroo (#22)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-10-22   16:08:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Eric Stratton (#25)

.. everyone thinking that there are any threats at all from our own Government

The "root cause" of problems you address are about the people that vote for governance. In effect, you address the symptoms as opposed to the causes.

buckeroo  posted on  2010-10-22   16:13:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: buckeroo (#26)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-10-22   16:30:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Eric Stratton (#33)

Well, this just in, but the FedGov seems to have taken advantage of the situation and bunkered itself in and given itself overwhelming superiority in terms of weaponry, at the citizens' expense, to be able to overcome a 2A armed citizenry now, hasn't it.

WELL, HELLO!

And so do you think there shall be any "change?" Even a blood-curdling death-bath on the streets with hangings from the highest oak tree won't affect this apathetic nation. They will just watch the news and thank their respective gods that they weren't included in the lynchings ... and then off to work they go to pay their taxes... and vote the same old shit.

buckeroo  posted on  2010-10-22   16:38:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: buckeroo (#38)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-10-22   18:56:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Eric Stratton (#51)

for some unknown reason why precisely that won't happen.

So, since you want to play some sort of mesmeric soothsayer or prognosticator .. what will happen?

buckeroo  posted on  2010-10-22   19:01:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-10-22   19:19:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Eric Stratton (#55)

You miss my point, I have no idea

And that is a serious problem. You don't possess substance or character to answer much less show principle of conviction.

Just holding out hope for the possibility.

Have you ever thought of joining a religious/political chit-chat channel? I think AKA Stone would welcome you under his cloak and associated mischief.

buckeroo  posted on  2010-10-22   19:28:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-10-22   19:34:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Eric Stratton (#59)

And BTW, I guess my biggest hope, apart from any control that we have however, which is why I didn't mention it, is a collapsing economy that buries the FedGov before the FedGov buries us.

I find your perspective curious at best. If the federal government collapses what makes you think that society (as a whole) can survive?

buckeroo  posted on  2010-10-22   19:56:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: buckeroo (#62)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-10-22   22:27:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Eric Stratton (#78)

What, you're saying we need the FedGov to survive?

Some sort of governmental structure shall always occur whether you like it or not, particularly when the population base is so large (~320,000,000) in America.

My bet is that if some sort of revolution occurs in America, the military shall assume vigorous assumption of POWER because of preexisting C4IR (Command, Control, Communications, Computers, Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance), all nicely payed for by the taxpayer and ready to serve us.

buckeroo  posted on  2010-10-23   13:11:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: buckeroo (#81)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-10-23   13:18:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: Eric Stratton (#82)

Well, but my position is one of that decentralization is our best option(s).

You won't see it in your lifetime; I assume that is decades to come.

One of the main reasons is that Congress enjoys creating jobs through military programs. These expansionist programs of the government is one of the principle reasons why you don't see Congress cutting back programs after budgeting unless those same programs are a political hotbed, somehow. Pork spending is a necessary evil in the budgetary process and what better way for a local Congressman/woman to boast of creating jobs locally through defense programs. It is considered a "WIN-WIN-WIN" situation for local employers, employees and the defense over-all even if the program(s) are silly or trivial.

With that attitude being very pronounced in Washington DC (controlled by both major parties) you can't see a systematic method to reduce spending particularly since the lion's share of campaign contributions come from lobbyists which keep the candidates in position.

Most people vote their political party line; they don't even contribute to a campaign much less read the background of any of the candidates running. Most voters read their election ballots the night before elections and for issues, they just read the summaries anyway.

So, with an indifferent populace casting their ballots without any serious research; with politicians taking the majority of the campaign funds from single/multiple issue lobbyists; with federal budgets being approved based upon pork spending and presidents that must go along their party line how can Washington DC become decentralized?

buckeroo  posted on  2010-10-23   14:44:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: buckeroo (#83)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-10-23   14:48:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Eric Stratton (#84)

Thing is, we're far from "under normal circumstances."

That is a matter of perspective. But, it doesn't alter the fact that the cultural climate in Washington DC must be changed; and no one knows how to do it. So, back to the original point, if the government continues it's own uncontrolled record of spending and creation of massive government programs there is only one way to avoid it; a people's revolt, whether violent or otherwise somehow; and if that were to happen, the US military would assume control of ALL government POWERS and create martial law eliminating many of the freedoms and liberties most folks cherish.

buckeroo  posted on  2010-10-23   14:56:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-10-23   15:11:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Eric Stratton (#86)

It's not a matter of perspective.

Yes it is. Congress/GAO/all federal bureaucratic budget offices (by the thousands) reference the federal budget to overall GNP. Minor incremental expenses are often just shrugged off year after year after year and rationalized for national security purposes.

And of course, the commander-in-chief signs those matters into law.

buckeroo  posted on  2010-10-23   15:19:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-10-23   16:14:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Eric Stratton (#88)

Alright then, what's your solution? (post#58, this thread)

A few new amendments to the US Constitution, fully enforced:

1) Voter qualification test and screening required of all candidates running for office and the respective voting publick, thereof.
1a) Fluency test, for reading/writing in English with a passing score;
1b) Verifiable US citizenship requirement for a minimum of 10 years;
1c) Personal income and financial solvency; may not receive government
funding for subsistence purposes;
1d) Must not be an employee of the US government; must not possess dual-citizenship; must not be employed by foreign governments in any way.
That should eliminate the varmints, vermin and the rif-raf from playing irresponsibly with the nation.

I can think of others but that is a good start.

Well, OK, we'll disagree there on different principles of factuals, but I don't want to get into all that right now.

?

buckeroo  posted on  2010-10-23   16:49:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: buckeroo (#89)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-10-23   20:35:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Eric Stratton (#90)

I see mass chaos before I see that occurring.

Of course.

That is the excuse that the US military shall use to take full POWER of government operations. Good observation on your part.

For any uprising, Americans already paid for professional soldiers to do their part.... after-all, they sworn to uphold the US Constitution, didn't they? Moreover, professional soldiers have a duty, correct? And they are paid, pampered and well-armed.

buckeroo  posted on  2010-10-23   20:58:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-10-23   21:17:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#93. To: Eric Stratton (#92)

HEY! Don't you know the President is under HOT-PRESSURE to perform signing everything under the Sun? I doubt if he cares for you or me, much less his obligation to America. He can conveniently fade into the sunset.. never taking responsibility for what he did.

buckeroo  posted on  2010-10-23 21:47:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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