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Title: Our Masters, Not Muslims, Are the Enemy
Source: The New American
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Published: Oct 22, 2010
Author: Becky Akers
Post Date: 2010-10-22 11:06:50 by ghostdogtxn
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#57. To: Eric Stratton (#55)

You miss my point, I have no idea

And that is a serious problem. You don't possess substance or character to answer much less show principle of conviction.

Just holding out hope for the possibility.

Have you ever thought of joining a religious/political chit-chat channel? I think AKA Stone would welcome you under his cloak and associated mischief.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-10-22   19:28:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: buckeroo (#57)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-10-22   19:33:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: buckeroo (#57)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-10-22   19:34:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Original_Intent, 4 (#53)

HERE

Kennewick Man and other finds suggest that there were caucasians on this continent at least as far back as ten thousand years ago and very likely earlier.

Solutrean theory suggests you're correct.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-10-22   19:46:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Jethro Tull (#60)

Solutrean theory suggests you're correct.

Where's Don Cornelius
now that we need him?

"Fear of death is form of stasis horrors. The dead weight of time." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2010-10-22   19:52:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Eric Stratton (#59)

And BTW, I guess my biggest hope, apart from any control that we have however, which is why I didn't mention it, is a collapsing economy that buries the FedGov before the FedGov buries us.

I find your perspective curious at best. If the federal government collapses what makes you think that society (as a whole) can survive?

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-10-22   19:56:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Dakmar (#61)

Don Cornelius

Mr Don still be in the process of evolvin'

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-10-22   19:57:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: buckeroo (#62)

If the federal government collapses what makes you think that society (as a whole) can survive?

You, me, all of us emerged from The Great Shutdown of '95 unscathed, didn't we?

"Fear of death is form of stasis horrors. The dead weight of time." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2010-10-22   20:01:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Dakmar (#64)

You, me, all of us emerged from The Great Shutdown of '95 unscathed, didn't we?

Not me. I am here in 2010 celebrating life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-10-22   20:11:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: buckeroo (#65)

Not me. I am here in 2010 celebrating life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Ask anyone, that's what I meant by unscathed.

"Fear of death is form of stasis horrors. The dead weight of time." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2010-10-22   20:16:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Dakmar (#66)

What is so important about 1995 and why should I ask anyone about your perspective?

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-10-22   20:24:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: buckeroo (#67)

1473 = ?

Think about it, write down an answer before the robots come back!

"Fear of death is form of stasis horrors. The dead weight of time." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2010-10-22   20:28:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Dakmar (#68)

I just consulted my numerology professor whom also owns the Black Ball code of prediction. He sez:

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-10-22   20:34:59 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: buckeroo (#69)

We all like caricatures of the president, but I have to tell you, that one is stretching the premise pretty thin.

"Fear of death is form of stasis horrors. The dead weight of time." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2010-10-22   20:39:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Dakmar (#70)

You don't seem to understand the conceptual basis of a PhD, accredited with ensuring your continuing capabilities within government understanding and the now obscure (minor) private sector markets in America.

What happened to you along the way? Don't you see the light?

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-10-22   20:53:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: buckeroo (#71)

"Fear of death is form of stasis horrors. The dead weight of time." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2010-10-22   20:56:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Dakmar (#72)

I see you every day, more and more, becoming like an A K A Stone or a Goldi-Locks, you have succumbed to the slippery slope, for sure.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-10-22   21:10:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: buckeroo (#73)

I see you every day, more and more, becoming like an A K A Stone or a Goldi-Locks, you have succumbed to the slippery slope, for sure.

That's easily the most insane thing you've said in several days. I was starting to worry.

"Fear of death is form of stasis horrors. The dead weight of time." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2010-10-22   21:18:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Dakmar (#74)

You have become a "yukon" in your own mind. Then again, there is a far greater and scarier side of you: you are the recreation of TLBSHOW.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-10-22   21:25:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: buckeroo (#75)

I was riding a bicycle one time and tried to do a wheelie but the chain came off and I hit the pavement head first and when I woke up I thought I was Jimi Hendrix.

"Fear of death is form of stasis horrors. The dead weight of time." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2010-10-22   21:32:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Dakmar (#76)

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-10-22   21:38:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: buckeroo (#62)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-10-22   22:27:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Jethro Tull (#29)

Yes they are, and for those Muslims who refuse to make an effort to adopt to America and our culture, I suggest we boot their hooded heads back to Mecca.

Sneaky bastard.

Space: The final frontier of egalitarianism; darkie has no sense of wonder.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2010-10-22   23:13:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Jethro Tull (#48)

Turtle, I'd like your take on the Aztec civilization. My knowledge base is limited to some limited reading and Mel Gibson's Apocalypto, which painted them as blood thirsty savages. I tend to agree w/Gibson's take as the PC crowd takes an opposite position.

One of the reasons the Spainish so easily overthrew the Aztecs is because the dozen tribes the Aztecs used as human sacrifices helped the Spanish.

Gibson does myth not history but he was accurate about cutting hearts out. One of the reason those Aztec pyraminds had all those steps is to roll bodies down them after their hears were cut out.

No one know exactly how many people were sacrificed but historians believe it was hundreds of thousands of people.

"If ever this vast country is brought under a single government, it will be one of the most extensive corruption, indifferent and incapable of a wholesome care over so wide a spread of surface. This will not be borne, and you will have to choose between reform and revolution. If I know the spirit of this country, the one or the other is inevitable." - Thomas Jefferson

Turtle  posted on  2010-10-23   11:20:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Eric Stratton (#78)

What, you're saying we need the FedGov to survive?

Some sort of governmental structure shall always occur whether you like it or not, particularly when the population base is so large (~320,000,000) in America.

My bet is that if some sort of revolution occurs in America, the military shall assume vigorous assumption of POWER because of preexisting C4IR (Command, Control, Communications, Computers, Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance), all nicely payed for by the taxpayer and ready to serve us.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-10-23   13:11:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: buckeroo (#81)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-10-23   13:18:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: Eric Stratton (#82)

Well, but my position is one of that decentralization is our best option(s).

You won't see it in your lifetime; I assume that is decades to come.

One of the main reasons is that Congress enjoys creating jobs through military programs. These expansionist programs of the government is one of the principle reasons why you don't see Congress cutting back programs after budgeting unless those same programs are a political hotbed, somehow. Pork spending is a necessary evil in the budgetary process and what better way for a local Congressman/woman to boast of creating jobs locally through defense programs. It is considered a "WIN-WIN-WIN" situation for local employers, employees and the defense over-all even if the program(s) are silly or trivial.

With that attitude being very pronounced in Washington DC (controlled by both major parties) you can't see a systematic method to reduce spending particularly since the lion's share of campaign contributions come from lobbyists which keep the candidates in position.

Most people vote their political party line; they don't even contribute to a campaign much less read the background of any of the candidates running. Most voters read their election ballots the night before elections and for issues, they just read the summaries anyway.

So, with an indifferent populace casting their ballots without any serious research; with politicians taking the majority of the campaign funds from single/multiple issue lobbyists; with federal budgets being approved based upon pork spending and presidents that must go along their party line how can Washington DC become decentralized?

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-10-23   14:44:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: buckeroo (#83)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-10-23   14:48:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Eric Stratton (#84)

Thing is, we're far from "under normal circumstances."

That is a matter of perspective. But, it doesn't alter the fact that the cultural climate in Washington DC must be changed; and no one knows how to do it. So, back to the original point, if the government continues it's own uncontrolled record of spending and creation of massive government programs there is only one way to avoid it; a people's revolt, whether violent or otherwise somehow; and if that were to happen, the US military would assume control of ALL government POWERS and create martial law eliminating many of the freedoms and liberties most folks cherish.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-10-23   14:56:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: buckeroo (#85)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-10-23   15:11:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Eric Stratton (#86)

It's not a matter of perspective.

Yes it is. Congress/GAO/all federal bureaucratic budget offices (by the thousands) reference the federal budget to overall GNP. Minor incremental expenses are often just shrugged off year after year after year and rationalized for national security purposes.

And of course, the commander-in-chief signs those matters into law.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-10-23   15:19:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: buckeroo (#87)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-10-23   16:14:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Eric Stratton (#88)

Alright then, what's your solution? (post#58, this thread)

A few new amendments to the US Constitution, fully enforced:

1) Voter qualification test and screening required of all candidates running for office and the respective voting publick, thereof.
1a) Fluency test, for reading/writing in English with a passing score;
1b) Verifiable US citizenship requirement for a minimum of 10 years;
1c) Personal income and financial solvency; may not receive government
funding for subsistence purposes;
1d) Must not be an employee of the US government; must not possess dual-citizenship; must not be employed by foreign governments in any way.
That should eliminate the varmints, vermin and the rif-raf from playing irresponsibly with the nation.

I can think of others but that is a good start.

Well, OK, we'll disagree there on different principles of factuals, but I don't want to get into all that right now.

?

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-10-23   16:49:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: buckeroo (#89)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-10-23   20:35:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Eric Stratton (#90)

I see mass chaos before I see that occurring.

Of course.

That is the excuse that the US military shall use to take full POWER of government operations. Good observation on your part.

For any uprising, Americans already paid for professional soldiers to do their part.... after-all, they sworn to uphold the US Constitution, didn't they? Moreover, professional soldiers have a duty, correct? And they are paid, pampered and well-armed.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-10-23   20:58:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: buckeroo (#91)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-10-23   21:17:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: Eric Stratton (#92)

HEY! Don't you know the President is under HOT-PRESSURE to perform signing everything under the Sun? I doubt if he cares for you or me, much less his obligation to America. He can conveniently fade into the sunset.. never taking responsibility for what he did.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-10-23   21:47:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: buckeroo (#93)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-10-23   22:02:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: Eric Stratton (#94)

So, what's new?

Welcome to America that even at the highest levels of management has no responsibility for the future.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-10-23   22:08:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: buckeroo (#95)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-10-23   22:36:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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