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Title: Our Masters, Not Muslims, Are the Enemy
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The New American
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Published: Oct 22, 2010
Author: Becky Akers
Post Date: 2010-10-22 11:06:50 by ghostdogtxn
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#46. To: Turtle, Turdle, X-15, all (#43)
The Indians were vicious savages who smashed out the brains of other tribe's babies on rocks and horribly tortured their enemies to death. That's why the Founding Fathers referred to them as "merciless Indian savages." Like all generalizations that is true for SOME, but not ALL. If you are speaking of the Algonquin Confederation, which had a strong central government, they were merciless in war and in conquering other tribes. However, the NW tribes were largely peaceful fishermen who lived in semi-permanent villages and traded with other tribes. The Apache were well known as fearless warriors, but the Crow had a code of chivalry which required that feuds be settled one on one. The Lakotah (Sioux), and Nakotah (Assiniboine) were somewhere in between and the Lakotah in particular were nomadic snowbirds who headed south in the winter. The problem with a lot of the history is that it was written by, and from the viewpoint of, the victors. And in the hands of a bigot seeking to justify genocide it becomes strangely distorted from the reality. Wouldn't you agree Turdle old buddy.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Sorry, mutts are disqualified for grandfather status. You'll have leave with the other Indian abusers.
Turtle, I'd like your take on the Aztec civilization. My knowledge base is limited to some limited reading and Mel Gibson's Apocalypto, which painted them as blood thirsty savages. I tend to agree w/Gibson's take as the PC crowd takes an opposite position.
No thanks.
Stone-age tribes wandering the woods and plains and continually feuding amongst themselves had to give it up. I believe they call it 'manifest destiny'. Stone age is a type of technology and is not a measure of culture or social development. The tribes were nomadic because they had no reason to settle. There were, depending upon whose estimates you use, somewhere between 3 and 8 million people on the entire continent at the time the first European Settlers arrived. Contrary to popular myth, and Hollywood Westerns where most people mis-learn history, a good many of the tribes were formed into sophisticated governmental organizations e.g., The Algonquin Confederation, and the Cherokee Nation (which was not "1" tribe but many). With the population so sparse the easy life of the hunter-gatherer was a comfortable and easy life. Food was readily available, and there were no Monarchs going to war to steal each others lands and people. Yes, some adjoining tribes engaged in intertribal warfare, but it was not as widespread as the Hollywood movies from which you get your history would suggest. The technology in use was adequate to meet survival needs and thus there was no survival need to develop anything else. Most tribes were monotheistic and contrary to popular myth trade was widespread. The Cahokia mounds, which are actually giant earthen Pyramids (the largest standing about 100 feet and having a base covering 14 acres), appears to have been a major trading center for a large part of the midwest and down into Mexico. So, contrary to Hollywood Epic, and stilted histories, the Native Tribes were not quite the "primitives" they are often misrepresented to have been. European experience in warfare and advanced weapons is not a recommendation for their culture. Music, Art, and other advancements are. However, development of cultures over time occurs largely by survival imperatives.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
So, since you want to play some sort of mesmeric soothsayer or prognosticator .. what will happen?
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
Sorry, mutts are disqualified for grandfather status. You'll have leave with the other Indian abusers. Drat! Of course you know that was not my point, but to simply underscore that most of the "natives" on this continent are not - natives that is, and that includes the Indian Tribes as much as they want to avoid admitting it. Kennewick Man and other finds suggest that there were caucasians on this continent at least as far back as ten thousand years ago and very likely earlier. The Mandan Tribe, before they were wiped out, had natural Redheads. Roman Coins and Nordic Runes are found as far west as Kansas and Oklahoma. As well is the mystery of the Great Lakes Open Pit Copper Mines on Isle Royal which is a mystery that the lamestream archaeologists are still trying to explain away. The problem they face is that while some tribes used copper they used chunks and whatnot that required no mining or smelting to speak of. The mine at Isle Royal is a sophisticated Open Pit Copper Mine that was in operation at least as far back as 2,000 B.C.. There is even a report, since suppressed, of a find of sophisticated Egyptian style artifacts in a cave in the Grand Canyon in the 1880's. Apparently the Smithsonian mounted an expedition and sent a Boxcar or two of relics back east where ala Indiana Jones they were buried and suppressed in the bowels of the Smithsonian. And the mysterious Olmec Heads of Central America have distinctively Negroid features - although lamestream archaeology tries to explain the similarities away. There are as well even more interesting rumors of finds of ancient advanced technology which the government has closed off to the public. I might note that the area of the Grand Canyon where the Egyptian find is located is closed off to both the general public AND National Park Service personnel to this day.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
Thanks. "One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
And that is a serious problem. You don't possess substance or character to answer much less show principle of conviction. Have you ever thought of joining a religious/political chit-chat channel? I think AKA Stone would welcome you under his cloak and associated mischief.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
Kennewick Man and other finds suggest that there were caucasians on this continent at least as far back as ten thousand years ago and very likely earlier. Solutrean theory suggests you're correct.
Where's Don Cornelius "Fear of death is form of stasis horrors. The dead weight of time." - William S Burroughs
I find your perspective curious at best. If the federal government collapses what makes you think that society (as a whole) can survive?
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
Mr Don still be in the process of evolvin'
You, me, all of us emerged from The Great Shutdown of '95 unscathed, didn't we?
"Fear of death is form of stasis horrors. The dead weight of time." - William S Burroughs
Not me. I am here in 2010 celebrating life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. "we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
Ask anyone, that's what I meant by unscathed.
"Fear of death is form of stasis horrors. The dead weight of time." - William S Burroughs
What is so important about 1995 and why should I ask anyone about your perspective?
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
1473 = ? Think about it, write down an answer before the robots come back!
"Fear of death is form of stasis horrors. The dead weight of time." - William S Burroughs
I just consulted my numerology professor whom also owns the Black Ball code of prediction. He sez: "we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
We all like caricatures of the president, but I have to tell you, that one is stretching the premise pretty thin.
"Fear of death is form of stasis horrors. The dead weight of time." - William S Burroughs
You don't seem to understand the conceptual basis of a PhD, accredited with ensuring your continuing capabilities within government understanding and the now obscure (minor) private sector markets in America. What happened to you along the way? Don't you see the light?
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
"Fear of death is form of stasis horrors. The dead weight of time." - William S Burroughs
I see you every day, more and more, becoming like an A K A Stone or a Goldi-Locks, you have succumbed to the slippery slope, for sure.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
That's easily the most insane thing you've said in several days. I was starting to worry.
"Fear of death is form of stasis horrors. The dead weight of time." - William S Burroughs
You have become a "yukon" in your own mind. Then again, there is a far greater and scarier side of you: you are the recreation of TLBSHOW.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
I was riding a bicycle one time and tried to do a wheelie but the chain came off and I hit the pavement head first and when I woke up I thought I was Jimi Hendrix.
"Fear of death is form of stasis horrors. The dead weight of time." - William S Burroughs
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
Sneaky bastard.
Space: The final frontier of egalitarianism; darkie has no sense of wonder.
One of the reasons the Spainish so easily overthrew the Aztecs is because the dozen tribes the Aztecs used as human sacrifices helped the Spanish. Gibson does myth not history but he was accurate about cutting hearts out. One of the reason those Aztec pyraminds had all those steps is to roll bodies down them after their hears were cut out. No one know exactly how many people were sacrificed but historians believe it was hundreds of thousands of people.
"If ever this vast country is brought under a single government, it will be one of the most extensive corruption, indifferent and incapable of a wholesome care over so wide a spread of surface. This will not be borne, and you will have to choose between reform and revolution. If I know the spirit of this country, the one or the other is inevitable." - Thomas Jefferson
Some sort of governmental structure shall always occur whether you like it or not, particularly when the population base is so large (~320,000,000) in America. My bet is that if some sort of revolution occurs in America, the military shall assume vigorous assumption of POWER because of preexisting C4IR (Command, Control, Communications, Computers, Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance), all nicely payed for by the taxpayer and ready to serve us.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
You won't see it in your lifetime; I assume that is decades to come. One of the main reasons is that Congress enjoys creating jobs through military programs. These expansionist programs of the government is one of the principle reasons why you don't see Congress cutting back programs after budgeting unless those same programs are a political hotbed, somehow. Pork spending is a necessary evil in the budgetary process and what better way for a local Congressman/woman to boast of creating jobs locally through defense programs. It is considered a "WIN-WIN-WIN" situation for local employers, employees and the defense over-all even if the program(s) are silly or trivial. With that attitude being very pronounced in Washington DC (controlled by both major parties) you can't see a systematic method to reduce spending particularly since the lion's share of campaign contributions come from lobbyists which keep the candidates in position. Most people vote their political party line; they don't even contribute to a campaign much less read the background of any of the candidates running. Most voters read their election ballots the night before elections and for issues, they just read the summaries anyway. So, with an indifferent populace casting their ballots without any serious research; with politicians taking the majority of the campaign funds from single/multiple issue lobbyists; with federal budgets being approved based upon pork spending and presidents that must go along their party line how can Washington DC become decentralized?
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
That is a matter of perspective. But, it doesn't alter the fact that the cultural climate in Washington DC must be changed; and no one knows how to do it. So, back to the original point, if the government continues it's own uncontrolled record of spending and creation of massive government programs there is only one way to avoid it; a people's revolt, whether violent or otherwise somehow; and if that were to happen, the US military would assume control of ALL government POWERS and create martial law eliminating many of the freedoms and liberties most folks cherish.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestStone-age tribes wandering the woods and plains and continually feuding amongst themselves had to give it up. I believe they call it 'manifest destiny'.
#47. To: Original_Intent (#45)
Depends upon which ones you look at. My Welsh ancestors, my last name is Norman-Welsh, arrived in 1626 - 1630 (the records are contradictory - some say one, some the other) from, most likely, Dorset, England. However, my Indian ancestors have been here a little longer. My Scots-Irish ancestors I'm not sure of, but I know they were here before the Potato Famine. My German ancestors were here long enough to have one Great Great Uncle in Lincoln's Secret Service (although most of my ancestors on the patronymic side were Southerners at the time of the Civil War).
#48. To: Turtle, X-15, 4 (#43)
#49. To: X-15 (#31)
The day this
is considered normal in America,
this must also. 
#50. To: X-15 (#41)
Yeah, and ditto for those European Invaders who refuse to adopt the culture and live peacefully with their Indian neighbors - ship'em back to Europe.
#51. To: buckeroo (#38)
#52. To: Eric Stratton (#51)
for some unknown reason why precisely that won't happen.
#53. To: Jethro Tull (#47)
(Edited)
Depends upon which ones you look at. My Welsh ancestors, my last name is Norman-Welsh, arrived in 1626 - 1630 (the records are contradictory - some say one, some the other) from, most likely, Dorset, England. However, my Indian ancestors have been here a little longer. My Scots-Irish ancestors I'm not sure of, but I know they were here before the Potato Famine. My German ancestors were here long enough to have one Great Great Uncle in Lincoln's Secret Service (although most of my ancestors on the patronymic side were Southerners at the time of the Civil War).
#54. To: Original_Intent (#42)
#55. To: buckeroo (#52)
#56. To: Eric Stratton (#54)
#57. To: Eric Stratton (#55)
You miss my point, I have no idea
Just holding out hope for the possibility.
#58. To: buckeroo (#57)
#59. To: buckeroo (#57)
#60. To: Original_Intent, 4 (#53)
HERE
#61. To: Jethro Tull (#60)
Solutrean theory suggests you're correct.
now that we need him?
#62. To: Eric Stratton (#59)
And BTW, I guess my biggest hope, apart from any control that we have however, which is why I didn't mention it, is a collapsing economy that buries the FedGov before the FedGov buries us.
#63. To: Dakmar (#61)
Don Cornelius
#64. To: buckeroo (#62)
If the federal government collapses what makes you think that society (as a whole) can survive?
#65. To: Dakmar (#64)
You, me, all of us emerged from The Great Shutdown of '95 unscathed, didn't we?
#66. To: buckeroo (#65)
Not me. I am here in 2010 celebrating life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
#67. To: Dakmar (#66)
#68. To: buckeroo (#67)
#69. To: Dakmar (#68)
#70. To: buckeroo (#69)
#71. To: Dakmar (#70)
#72. To: buckeroo (#71)
#73. To: Dakmar (#72)
#74. To: buckeroo (#73)
I see you every day, more and more, becoming like an A K A Stone or a Goldi-Locks, you have succumbed to the slippery slope, for sure.
#75. To: Dakmar (#74)
#76. To: buckeroo (#75)
#77. To: Dakmar (#76)
#78. To: buckeroo (#62)
#79. To: Jethro Tull (#29)
Yes they are, and for those Muslims who refuse to make an effort to adopt to America and our culture, I suggest we boot their hooded heads back to Mecca.
#80. To: Jethro Tull (#48)
Turtle, I'd like your take on the Aztec civilization. My knowledge base is limited to some limited reading and Mel Gibson's Apocalypto, which painted them as blood thirsty savages. I tend to agree w/Gibson's take as the PC crowd takes an opposite position.
#81. To: Eric Stratton (#78)
What, you're saying we need the FedGov to survive?
#82. To: buckeroo (#81)
#83. To: Eric Stratton (#82)
Well, but my position is one of that decentralization is our best option(s).
#84. To: buckeroo (#83)
#85. To: Eric Stratton (#84)
Thing is, we're far from "under normal circumstances."
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