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Title: HUGE Media Blackout Regarding Earth And Moon Orbital Changes?
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://beforeitsnews.com/story/229/227/
Published: Oct 23, 2010
Author: n
Post Date: 2010-10-23 10:07:42 by gengis gandhi
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Views: 285
Comments: 22

HUGE Media Blackout Regarding Earth And Moon Orbital Changes?

Huge earth changes are taking place at this time. L.A. had a record cool summer and a few days after summer is over, they shoot up to a record high 113 degrees. Parts of Brazil and Bolivia shattered record cold temps and were colder than Antarctica for much of July, killing millions of fish, and many alligators and fresh water dolphins! Weather is going crazy around the world and all the mainstream media talks about is "climate change" "global warming"...etc. But they won't touch upon the True Cause, because for them it is too alarming.

An increasing number of people around the world have witnessed amazing changes in the location of Sun rise and set in summer and winter. Apparently this is being caused by the earth moving below the old ecliptic plane in summer and above it in winter! The moon is also playing rodeo all over the sky....and the media says nothing. I have read of reports (as yet unsubstantiated) that a "gag order" is in place and professionals dealing with the subject have had to sign non-disclosure agreements regarding these facts. The Inuit peoples of the high arctic have published several stories regarding the changes in sun position at their locations and were told by a meteorologist that it is an "optical phenomenon unique to the extremely high horizon". Yet these changes are visible all over the world. Ordinary citizens from all over the world are reporting their observations regarding the sun and moon changing their positions in the sky. And we're not just talking inches here. The changes are amazing to say the least! The furthest north the sun traditionally appeared for thousands of years, was the tropic of cancer which passes through central mexico, yet now, at the beginning of summer, it can be witnessed to rise in the direction of maine and set in the direction of seattle.

And according to the universities, the highest latitude that the moon reaches, is 28.5 degrees, yet for the last couple years at least, it has transgressed that number by a significant margin! One can watch the moon rise low in the south east and set in the southwest, at least from my position at 41 degrees north in the midwest U.S. and then, within two weeks time, it will rise high in the northeast and set in the northwest!

According to WIRED magazine and others, scientists are perplexed at the mysterious high tides, and reports of "giant rogue waves" coming out of the clear blue, and Tsunami are on the increase, as are earthquakes in populated areas around the world. Changes in the sun are being documented at a dizzying pace these days as well, and on the same day that a large asteroid hit jupiter this summer, something impacted Venus. These were observed on the same day!

One can easily observe the sun rising too far north in summer and too far south in winter and these changes are, themselves, in a state of change.

I have assembled a long list of reputable sources of information in support of my observations and those of others, that these events are indeed taking place.

Please Google - "Late Harvest Moon BHM" and wade through 5 pages of prolific evidence of these events now taking place.

As a fan of 'Before it's news', I just thought that those among your readers that are interested, should have the opportunity to research these things for themselves.

TS


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big woo.

I cant say if the sun and moon are where they normally are.

They are in the sky. Thats where they normally are, so thats good enough for me.

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#1. To: gengis gandhi (#0)

these object normally shift their orbits, that's why we have precession. However they are not going to shift the way suggested without an outside force acting upon them. Even out solar system drifts up and down in the galactic plane.


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farmfriend  posted on  2010-10-23   11:27:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: farmfriend (#1)

the weird thing is i got up at like 4am and saw the moon. i thought, gee, that seems low in the sky.

people were freaking out on stuff like this a few years ago i remember.

planet x and all that jazz.

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gengis gandhi  posted on  2010-10-23   12:14:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: gengis gandhi (#2)

planet x and all that jazz.

Well nothing is really stable in space. The Earth's orbit does change. Precession tells us this. The moon is receding, slipping away from the Earth's grasp. The farther away it gets, the more unstable the Earth's wobble becomes. The barycenter of the sun changes and can even be outside the sun. The sun spins and wobbles because of the orbiting planets. It has even been suggested that Jupiter effects not only the sun but Earth's climate by proxy.

One possible explanation for the cyclicity in the Sun.

Sunspots: The Gleissberg cycle.


Tough women come from New York, sweet women from Texas, prissy women from Southern California, but we NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood. We can ride 4-wheelers, be a princess, throw a left hook, pack heat, hunt with the men, bake a cake, love with passion, and if we have an opinion, you know you're going to hear it!!

farmfriend  posted on  2010-10-23   13:45:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: gengis gandhi, farmfriend, Original_Intent (#2) (Edited)

people were freaking out on stuff like this a few years ago i remember.

planet x and all that jazz.

Something is definitely going on, and it could well be orbital changes due to an outside influence. Planet X may not be an imaginary planet, but the planet Nibiru mentioned in the ancient Sumerian legends.

Here's a stunning video of the Oct. 13th incident over Manhatten, which includes some footage that I've never seen before...


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-10-23   13:55:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: FormerLurker, gengis gandhi, Original_Intent (#4)

It shows an article with quotes from the book. All credibility is lost when they mention CO2 reaching critical mass.


Tough women come from New York, sweet women from Texas, prissy women from Southern California, but we NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood. We can ride 4-wheelers, be a princess, throw a left hook, pack heat, hunt with the men, bake a cake, love with passion, and if we have an opinion, you know you're going to hear it!!

farmfriend  posted on  2010-10-23   14:49:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: farmfriend, anyone (#5)

Who started the CO2 lie?

We learned the truth back in junior high school.

Lod  posted on  2010-10-23   14:55:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: farmfriend (#5)

All credibility is lost when they mention CO2 reaching critical mass.

Perhaps they know more about it than you FF. I mean, do you think someone faked those UFO's over New York, El Paso, Brazil, China, and elsewhere?

Do you think the CBS cameras were taking pictures of balloons?

For the incident to have occured as predicted, the person doing the predicting obviously was in touch with those onboard those craft, or at least aware of their plans.

Take it for what it is, but myself and a family member both saw something in the sky around the time of the NY incident, where it appeared to be an opaque white balloon at first. It didn't climb, bob, or stand still, it moved in a straight line across the sky, accelerating faster and faster, then shot off on an angle.

You have preconcieved notions about all this global warming stuff, and use it as a yardstick to measure everything you see or hear.

Perhaps that yardstick is a bit off.

Oh yeah, and here's a clip of what was seen over El Paso, TX...


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-10-23   15:00:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: farmfriend, gengis gandhi, christine, wudidiz, Lod, abraxas, TwentyTwelve, all (#3)

Perhaps this is, at least in part, something that was foreseen and thus the Glowbull Warming/Glowbull Clymutt Change is intended to divert from this?

Just speculating of course.

It is interesting though in light of the late Professor Charles Hapgood's Path of The Pole and the approach of 2012.

Proof That The Earth's Poles Have Shifted - Viewzone Article

Magnetic Poles Shifting

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-10-23   15:07:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: FormerLurker (#4)

Here's a stunning video of the Oct. 13th incident over Manhatten, which includes some footage that I've never seen before...

You do realize that this was later discovered to be a cluster of balloons, right?

During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

Bill D Berger  posted on  2010-10-23   20:40:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: farmfriend (#3)

The moon is receding, slipping away from the Earth's grasp.

I think it's like 2 inches a year, which is meaningless as to the effect it will have on our lives during our stay on Earth, but it sounds shocking enough to spook the rubes. We should try to get rich selling them anti-slobber bibs or something. We could prolly double our money by getting Paul Simon to write us a theme song.

"Fear of death is form of stasis horrors. The dead weight of time." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2010-10-23   21:20:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Dakmar, Original_Intent (#10)

I think it's like 2 inches a year, which is meaningless as to the effect it will have on our lives during our stay on Earth, but it sounds shocking enough to spook the rubes.

Well I had some of it wrong I guess. I double checked my stuff with a satelite guy. He said as the moon moves away the Earths rotation slows. Currently the moon is tidal locked with the Earth showing the same face all the time. Eventually the Earth will lock with the moon also showing the same face to the moon. But before this happens our sun will turn into a red giant. A few billion years I guess.


Tough women come from New York, sweet women from Texas, prissy women from Southern California, but we NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood. We can ride 4-wheelers, be a princess, throw a left hook, pack heat, hunt with the men, bake a cake, love with passion, and if we have an opinion, you know you're going to hear it!!

farmfriend  posted on  2010-10-23   22:58:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Bill D Berger (#9) (Edited)

You do realize that this was later discovered to be a cluster of balloons, right?

Have proof of that? Do balloons typically hold a certain altitude and arrange themselves in formations, while hovering over the same spot for an hour or more?

Were the lights over El Paso balloons as well?

What about the ones over Brazil? Swamp gas?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-10-24   0:31:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: gengis gandhi, All (#0)

HUGE Media Blackout Regarding Earth And Moon Orbital Changes?

I think this story about the Earth's orbit shifting is just BS. I checked with a compass where the Sun set this evening, checked the azimuth chart for this month, and it set where it was supposed to. Checked the chart for Oct. 1990, it was basically the same azimuth as today's.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-10-24   0:36:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Bill D Berger (#9)

UFOs over Japan this year...

Balloons ya think?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-10-24   0:55:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: gengis gandhi, farmfriend (#0)

I cant say if the sun and moon are where they normally are. They are in the sky. Thats where they normally are, so thats good enough for me.

The movement path of the sun and moon are caused by the Earths axial tilt, which also causes our seasons. The apparent path the sun and moon follow changes with the seasons.
As an amateur photographer (and amateur astronomer), lighting and the position of the sun and moon matter to me. I have noticed no unusual variation in the location of the sun or moon.
My wrist watch calculates the rise and set times for the sun, it is still correct. Today I went to a park to photograph the full moon rising over a local bridge. It rose at the proper calculated time in the correct location.
The sun and moon position also vary over thousands of years because the Earth wobbles. You would not notice this.


Armadillo  posted on  2010-10-24   2:02:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: FormerLurker (#12) (Edited)

Have proof of that? Do balloons typically hold a certain altitude and arrange themselves in formations, while hovering over the same spot for an hour or more?

The New York City UFO Balloons: The Truth Can Easily Get Lost in the Hype

The managed corporate media is full of mistakes. Many of these supposed mistakes are intentional misleads and misinformation. They pump propaganda to the gullible public. The public eagerly eats the garbage up with a big fat appetite for bullsh--.

You can bet that if these had been authentic craft in New York City, that the managed media would not have reported much on it.

But for those of us in the alternative press. We should be held to a higher standard. We are expected to try to pick from the mountains of crap to see if we can get a glimpse of some truth. That is what I try to do.

But as the UFO balloon hysteria clearly shows, the truth can easily get lost in the hype.

New Yorkers Mistake Balloons For UFOs?

During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

Bill D Berger  posted on  2010-10-24   2:03:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Bill D Berger (#16) (Edited)

Bullshit.

Who the F is Grant Lawrence, and how is he an expert on what really happened?

And BTW, where are those prank balloons, where's the equipment, who are the hoaxsters?

What did you THINK the media would say once incontravertable proof was there?

Oh yes BTW, we've been lying to you for the past 60 years, these things really DO exist?

How were they able to make them to change formation, and spin around one another?

C'mon now, I want PROOF that these were balloons, not some wild assed story from the "media" with no proof or evidence.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-10-24   2:49:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Bill D Berger (#16)

Balloons Bill?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-10-24   3:00:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Armadillo, gengis gandhi, Original_Intent (#15)

I have a friend with a PhD in orbital mechanics. He says the article is bunk. The man is a brain, I trust him.


Tough women come from New York, sweet women from Texas, prissy women from Southern California, but we NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood. We can ride 4-wheelers, be a princess, throw a left hook, pack heat, hunt with the men, bake a cake, love with passion, and if we have an opinion, you know you're going to hear it!!

farmfriend  posted on  2010-10-24   3:06:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: farmfriend, Armadillo, gengis gandhi, Original_Intent (#19)

I have a friend with a PhD in orbital mechanics. He says the article is bunk. The man is a brain, I trust him.

I verified it myself with a compass and azimuth chart today, and you're right, it is bunk. The sun is setting right where it's supposed to.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-10-24   3:33:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: gengis gandhi (#0)

Angular momemtum is conserved. Therefore, as the rotation of the earth slows down as the result of the kenetic energy lost due primarily to tides, the moon gets further away. However, you will not notice it. The rotation of the earth is slowing down by about 1 second every 50,000 years.

As a result the moon is moving away from the earth at the rate of one mile every 40,000 years. That is, the distance from the earth increases by 1/240,000th every 40,000 years.

Also, to a much lesser extent, the Earth is moving very very slowly away from the Sun. This happens for two reasons. The first is that the Sun is constantly losing mass because of the solar wind. As the mass of the Sun decreases its pull on the Earth decreases and so the Earth moves slightly further away. The second reason has to do with tidal forces. In exactly the same way that the Moon is slowly moving away from the Earth, the Earth is very slowly moving away from the Sun.

DWornock  posted on  2010-10-24   8:45:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: farmfriend (#19)

Thanks.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-10-24   11:09:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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