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Title: Vatican: Bible doesn’t promise Palestine to Jews
Source: rehmat1.wordpress.com
URL Source: http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2010/1 ... snt-promise-palestine-to-jews/
Published: Oct 24, 2010
Author: rehmat1
Post Date: 2010-10-24 23:52:31 by Max
Keywords: Vatican: Bible doesn’t promise
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Comments: 15

Vatican: Bible doesn’t promise Palestine to Jews Posted on October 25, 2010 by rehmat1| Leave a comment The statement issued at the conclusion of the two-week Synod of Bishops conference on Middle East at the Vatican this month – called for the end to the Jewish occupation of Palestine.

It also said that the biblical concept of the “Promised Land nor the Chosen People” justify the building of new illegal Jewish settlements nor the occupation of the Holy Land.

“We thought carefully about the status of Jerusalem is holy. We are concerned about unilateral initiatives that threaten to change the composition and risk population balance,” the statement said.

“There is no longer a ‘chosen people’,” the statement has claimed. When Greek-Melchite Archbishop Cyrille Salim Bustros was asked to explain the claim in a news conference, he replied: ““We Christians cannot speak about the promised land for the Jewish people. There is no longer a chosen people. All men and women of all countries have become the chosen people. The concept of the promised land cannot be used as a base for the justification of the return of Jews to Israel and the displacement of Palestinians. The justification of Israel’s occupation of the land of Palestine cannot be based on sacred scriptures.”

Pope Benedict XVI declared that peace in the Middle East is possible and urgently needed – and the best remedy for the exodus of Christians from the region. According to the Arab Christian sources, Christians made 15% of the pre-1948 Palestine population. Now they’re close to 5% of the population under Jewish rule, which known for abusive treatment of its Christian minority. The largest Palestinian Christian community lives in Chile (500,000) outside Occupied Palestine.

The statement agreed with the two-state solution. But in reality it’s a pipe dream because Benji Netanyahu have never agrred with it. The cunning Zionist know that if an independent Palestinian state did materialize – it will be the end of Zionazi vultures’ use of United States as the ‘Golden hen’ which has been giving US$6-14 billion each year to Israel for over four decades.

Early this month, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad sent a message to Pope Benedict XVI, calling for cooperation by ‘dive religions’ against secularism.

Holy Qur’an compares Jesus (as) with other great biblical prophets, i.e., Moses, David and Solomon. Holy Qur’an also put Jesus’ mother Mary among the four most praised righteous women.

“‘Behold’! the Angel said; ‘O’ Marriam, Allah hath chosen thee and purified thee, and chosen thee above women of all nations,” Holy Qur’an (3:42).

Furthemore, Holy Qur’an has an entire Surah Marriam (Chapter) dedicated to Jesus’ mother and the Virgin birth of Jesus. An honor which even the Christian Bible (New Testament) has not bestowed upon her. (Watch a trailer of Iranian movie ‘Saint Mary’ below.

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"Chosen" doesn't mean they are special, they are His favorites, they are more special or anything along those line. What He meant by "chosen" is/was "You are chosen to tell others that the gods they worship are false gods. He also warned them that this responsibility carries a heavy burden and that they were/are expected to follow all His Laws/Commandments and whomever fails to do so has broken the Covenant. That is all it means, nothing more.

Unfortunately Theodor Herzl decided that it would benefit Jews if they could convince non-Jews that that were God's Special people, that they are above others and that to not virtually worship them is wrong. That is where the idea of anti-semitism comes from.

Leviticus 26:

1 Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the LORD your God.

2 Ye shall keep my sabbaths, and reverence my sanctuary: I am the LORD.

3 If ye walk in my statutes, and keep my commandments, and do them;

4 Then I will give you rain in due season, and the land shall yield her increase, and the trees of the field shall yield their fruit.

5 And your threshing shall reach unto the vintage, and the vintage shall reach unto the sowing time: and ye shall eat your bread to the full, and dwell in your land safely.

6 And I will give peace in the land, and ye shall lie down, and none shall make you afraid: and I will rid evil beasts out of the land, neither shall the sword go through your land.

7 And ye shall chase your enemies, and they shall fall before you by the sword.

8 And five of you shall chase an hundred, and an hundred of you shall put ten thousand to flight: and your enemies shall fall before you by the sword.

9 For I will have respect unto you, and make you fruitful, and multiply you, and establish my covenant with you.

10 And ye shall eat old store, and bring forth the old because of the new.

11 And I set my tabernacle among you: and my soul shall not abhor you.

12 And I will walk among you, and will be your God, and ye shall be my people.

13 I am the LORD your God, which brought you forth out of the land of Egypt, that ye should not be their bondmen; and I have broken the bands of your yoke, and made you go upright.

14 But if ye will not hearken unto me, and will not do all these commandments;

15 And if ye shall despise my statutes, or if your soul abhor my judgments, so that ye will not do all my commandments, but that ye break my covenant:

16 I also will do this unto you; I will even appoint over you terror, consumption, and the burning ague, that shall consume the eyes, and cause sorrow of heart: and ye shall sow your seed in vain, for your enemies shall eat it.

17 And I will set my face against you, and ye shall be slain before your enemies: they that hate you shall reign over you; and ye shall flee when none pursueth you.

18 And if ye will not yet for all this hearken unto me, then I will punish you seven times more for your sins.

19 And I will break the pride of your power; and I will make your heaven as iron, and your earth as brass:

20 And your strength shall be spent in vain: for your land shall not yield her increase, neither shall the trees of the land yield their fruits.

21 And if ye walk contrary unto me, and will not hearken unto me; I will bring seven times more plagues upon you according to your sins.

22 I will also send wild beasts among you, which shall rob you of your children, and destroy your cattle, and make you few in number; and your high ways shall be desolate.

23 And if ye will not be reformed by me by these things, but will walk contrary unto me;

24 Then will I also walk contrary unto you, and will punish you yet seven times for your sins.

25 And I will bring a sword upon you, that shall avenge the quarrel of my covenant: and when ye are gathered together within your cities, I will send the pestilence among you; and ye shall be delivered into the hand of the enemy.

26 And when I have broken the staff of your bread, ten women shall bake your bread in one oven, and they shall deliver you your bread again by weight: and ye shall eat, and not be satisfied.

27 And if ye will not for all this hearken unto me, but walk contrary unto me;

28 Then I will walk contrary unto you also in fury; and I, even I, will chastise you seven times for your sins.

29 And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat.

30 And I will destroy your high places, and cut down your images, and cast your carcases upon the carcases of your idols, and my soul shall abhor you.

31 And I will make your cities waste, and bring your sanctuaries unto desolation, and I will not smell the savour of your sweet odours.

32 And I will bring the land into desolation: and your enemies which dwell therein shall be astonished at it.

33 And I will scatter you among the heathen, and will draw out a sword after you: and your land shall be desolate, and your cities waste.

34 Then shall the land enjoy her sabbaths, as long as it lieth desolate, and ye be in your enemies' land; even then shall the land rest, and enjoy her sabbaths.

35 As long as it lieth desolate it shall rest; because it did not rest in your sabbaths, when ye dwelt upon it.

36 And upon them that are left alive of you I will send a faintness into their hearts in the lands of their enemies; and the sound of a shaken leaf shall chase them; and they shall flee, as fleeing from a sword; and they shall fall when none pursueth.

37 And they shall fall one upon another, as it were before a sword, when none pursueth: and ye shall have no power to stand before your enemies.

38 And ye shall perish among the heathen, and the land of your enemies shall eat you up.

39 And they that are left of you shall pine away in their iniquity in your enemies' lands; and also in the iniquities of their fathers shall they pine away with them.

40 If they shall confess their iniquity, and the iniquity of their fathers, with their trespass which they trespassed against me, and that also they have walked contrary unto me;

41 And that I also have walked contrary unto them, and have brought them into the land of their enemies; if then their uncircumcised hearts be humbled, and they then accept of the punishment of their iniquity:

42 Then will I remember my covenant with Jacob, and also my covenant with Isaac, and also my covenant with Abraham will I remember; and I will remember the land.

43 The land also shall be left of them, and shall enjoy her sabbaths, while she lieth desolate without them: and they shall accept of the punishment of their iniquity: because, even because they despised my judgments, and because their soul abhorred my statutes.

44 And yet for all that, when they be in the land of their enemies, I will not cast them away, neither will I abhor them, to destroy them utterly, and to break my covenant with them: for I am the LORD their God.

45 But I will for their sakes remember the covenant of their ancestors, whom I brought forth out of the land of Egypt in the sight of the heathen, that I might be their God: I am the LORD.

46 These are the statutes and judgments and laws, which the LORD made between him and the children of Israel in mount Sinai by the hand of Moses.

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#5. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#2)

Unfortunately Theodor Herzl decided that it would benefit Jews if they could convince non-Jews that that were God's Special people, that they are above others and that to not virtually worship them is wrong. That is where the idea of anti-semitism comes from.

Their “faith” is based upon hatred, revenge, mayhem, theft, and GREED

This encompass immorality with all its meanings, It is an insult to all other religion to call this cultish crap a religion. No other "sect" is as venomous Could this be the reason why these “chosen” carpet baggers were expelled from every country/state/town of every continent in the past millenniums?

Through bribery, fascism, assassinations, sexual blackmail and the mass propaganda lies against anyone who dare to tell the truth about them.

Max  posted on  2010-10-25 03:10:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#2)

"Chosen" doesn't mean they are special, they are His favorites, they are more special or anything along those line. What He meant by "chosen" is/was "You are chosen to tell others that the gods they worship are false gods. He also warned them that this responsibility carries a heavy burden and that they were/are expected to follow all His Laws/Commandments and whomever fails to do so has broken the Covenant. That is all it means, nothing more.

Isaiah 65:15 [You will leave your name for a curse to my chosen...] followed up by John 15:15-16

Matthew 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

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Exodus 19:6 [to the Israelites] you will be for me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation ... bible.cc/exodus/19-6.htm

replaced by

1 Peter 2:9 [to the Christians] But ye [are] a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light [ King James Bible]

Bible in Basic English

But you are a special people, a holy nation, priests and kings, a people given up completely to God, so that you may make clear the virtues of him who took you out of the dark into the light of heaven.

bible.cc/1_peter/2-9.htm

and Revelation 5:9-10:

9And they sang a new song, saying, “Worthy are You to take the book and to break its seals; for You were slain, and purchased for God with Your blood men from every tribe and tongue and people and nation. 10“You have made them to be a kingdom and priests to our God; and they will [or, do] reign upon the earth.”

because the Kingdom has come:

Matthew 12:28 But if I drive out demons by the Spirit of God, then ... the kingdom of God is come unto you: bible.cc/matthew/12-28.htm

To re-cap, the "chosen" are Christians of every nation, tribe, and tongue, chosen to spread the gospel of the kingdom, and ONLY Christians, and sorry to the "infallible" pope, but....according to the Bible, they live and reign on the earth now!

[i know that you knew all that]

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-10-25 17:30:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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