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Title: Vatican: Bible doesn’t promise Palestine to Jews
Source: rehmat1.wordpress.com
URL Source: http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2010/1 ... snt-promise-palestine-to-jews/
Published: Oct 24, 2010
Author: rehmat1
Post Date: 2010-10-24 23:52:31 by Max
Keywords: Vatican: Bible doesn’t promise
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Vatican: Bible doesn’t promise Palestine to Jews Posted on October 25, 2010 by rehmat1| Leave a comment The statement issued at the conclusion of the two-week Synod of Bishops conference on Middle East at the Vatican this month – called for the end to the Jewish occupation of Palestine.

It also said that the biblical concept of the “Promised Land nor the Chosen People” justify the building of new illegal Jewish settlements nor the occupation of the Holy Land.

“We thought carefully about the status of Jerusalem is holy. We are concerned about unilateral initiatives that threaten to change the composition and risk population balance,” the statement said.

“There is no longer a ‘chosen people’,” the statement has claimed. When Greek-Melchite Archbishop Cyrille Salim Bustros was asked to explain the claim in a news conference, he replied: ““We Christians cannot speak about the promised land for the Jewish people. There is no longer a chosen people. All men and women of all countries have become the chosen people. The concept of the promised land cannot be used as a base for the justification of the return of Jews to Israel and the displacement of Palestinians. The justification of Israel’s occupation of the land of Palestine cannot be based on sacred scriptures.”

Pope Benedict XVI declared that peace in the Middle East is possible and urgently needed – and the best remedy for the exodus of Christians from the region. According to the Arab Christian sources, Christians made 15% of the pre-1948 Palestine population. Now they’re close to 5% of the population under Jewish rule, which known for abusive treatment of its Christian minority. The largest Palestinian Christian community lives in Chile (500,000) outside Occupied Palestine.

The statement agreed with the two-state solution. But in reality it’s a pipe dream because Benji Netanyahu have never agrred with it. The cunning Zionist know that if an independent Palestinian state did materialize – it will be the end of Zionazi vultures’ use of United States as the ‘Golden hen’ which has been giving US$6-14 billion each year to Israel for over four decades.

Early this month, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad sent a message to Pope Benedict XVI, calling for cooperation by ‘dive religions’ against secularism.

Holy Qur’an compares Jesus (as) with other great biblical prophets, i.e., Moses, David and Solomon. Holy Qur’an also put Jesus’ mother Mary among the four most praised righteous women.

“‘Behold’! the Angel said; ‘O’ Marriam, Allah hath chosen thee and purified thee, and chosen thee above women of all nations,” Holy Qur’an (3:42).

Furthemore, Holy Qur’an has an entire Surah Marriam (Chapter) dedicated to Jesus’ mother and the Virgin birth of Jesus. An honor which even the Christian Bible (New Testament) has not bestowed upon her. (Watch a trailer of Iranian movie ‘Saint Mary’ below.

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#1. To: Max (#0)

let's see if the Pope will be labeled an anti-semite now.

christine  posted on  2010-10-25   0:13:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Max (#0)

"Chosen" doesn't mean they are special, they are His favorites, they are more special or anything along those line. What He meant by "chosen" is/was "You are chosen to tell others that the gods they worship are false gods. He also warned them that this responsibility carries a heavy burden and that they were/are expected to follow all His Laws/Commandments and whomever fails to do so has broken the Covenant. That is all it means, nothing more.

Unfortunately Theodor Herzl decided that it would benefit Jews if they could convince non-Jews that that were God's Special people, that they are above others and that to not virtually worship them is wrong. That is where the idea of anti-semitism comes from.

Leviticus 26:

1 Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the LORD your God.

2 Ye shall keep my sabbaths, and reverence my sanctuary: I am the LORD.

3 If ye walk in my statutes, and keep my commandments, and do them;

4 Then I will give you rain in due season, and the land shall yield her increase, and the trees of the field shall yield their fruit.

5 And your threshing shall reach unto the vintage, and the vintage shall reach unto the sowing time: and ye shall eat your bread to the full, and dwell in your land safely.

6 And I will give peace in the land, and ye shall lie down, and none shall make you afraid: and I will rid evil beasts out of the land, neither shall the sword go through your land.

7 And ye shall chase your enemies, and they shall fall before you by the sword.

8 And five of you shall chase an hundred, and an hundred of you shall put ten thousand to flight: and your enemies shall fall before you by the sword.

9 For I will have respect unto you, and make you fruitful, and multiply you, and establish my covenant with you.

10 And ye shall eat old store, and bring forth the old because of the new.

11 And I set my tabernacle among you: and my soul shall not abhor you.

12 And I will walk among you, and will be your God, and ye shall be my people.

13 I am the LORD your God, which brought you forth out of the land of Egypt, that ye should not be their bondmen; and I have broken the bands of your yoke, and made you go upright.

14 But if ye will not hearken unto me, and will not do all these commandments;

15 And if ye shall despise my statutes, or if your soul abhor my judgments, so that ye will not do all my commandments, but that ye break my covenant:

16 I also will do this unto you; I will even appoint over you terror, consumption, and the burning ague, that shall consume the eyes, and cause sorrow of heart: and ye shall sow your seed in vain, for your enemies shall eat it.

17 And I will set my face against you, and ye shall be slain before your enemies: they that hate you shall reign over you; and ye shall flee when none pursueth you.

18 And if ye will not yet for all this hearken unto me, then I will punish you seven times more for your sins.

19 And I will break the pride of your power; and I will make your heaven as iron, and your earth as brass:

20 And your strength shall be spent in vain: for your land shall not yield her increase, neither shall the trees of the land yield their fruits.

21 And if ye walk contrary unto me, and will not hearken unto me; I will bring seven times more plagues upon you according to your sins.

22 I will also send wild beasts among you, which shall rob you of your children, and destroy your cattle, and make you few in number; and your high ways shall be desolate.

23 And if ye will not be reformed by me by these things, but will walk contrary unto me;

24 Then will I also walk contrary unto you, and will punish you yet seven times for your sins.

25 And I will bring a sword upon you, that shall avenge the quarrel of my covenant: and when ye are gathered together within your cities, I will send the pestilence among you; and ye shall be delivered into the hand of the enemy.

26 And when I have broken the staff of your bread, ten women shall bake your bread in one oven, and they shall deliver you your bread again by weight: and ye shall eat, and not be satisfied.

27 And if ye will not for all this hearken unto me, but walk contrary unto me;

28 Then I will walk contrary unto you also in fury; and I, even I, will chastise you seven times for your sins.

29 And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat.

30 And I will destroy your high places, and cut down your images, and cast your carcases upon the carcases of your idols, and my soul shall abhor you.

31 And I will make your cities waste, and bring your sanctuaries unto desolation, and I will not smell the savour of your sweet odours.

32 And I will bring the land into desolation: and your enemies which dwell therein shall be astonished at it.

33 And I will scatter you among the heathen, and will draw out a sword after you: and your land shall be desolate, and your cities waste.

34 Then shall the land enjoy her sabbaths, as long as it lieth desolate, and ye be in your enemies' land; even then shall the land rest, and enjoy her sabbaths.

35 As long as it lieth desolate it shall rest; because it did not rest in your sabbaths, when ye dwelt upon it.

36 And upon them that are left alive of you I will send a faintness into their hearts in the lands of their enemies; and the sound of a shaken leaf shall chase them; and they shall flee, as fleeing from a sword; and they shall fall when none pursueth.

37 And they shall fall one upon another, as it were before a sword, when none pursueth: and ye shall have no power to stand before your enemies.

38 And ye shall perish among the heathen, and the land of your enemies shall eat you up.

39 And they that are left of you shall pine away in their iniquity in your enemies' lands; and also in the iniquities of their fathers shall they pine away with them.

40 If they shall confess their iniquity, and the iniquity of their fathers, with their trespass which they trespassed against me, and that also they have walked contrary unto me;

41 And that I also have walked contrary unto them, and have brought them into the land of their enemies; if then their uncircumcised hearts be humbled, and they then accept of the punishment of their iniquity:

42 Then will I remember my covenant with Jacob, and also my covenant with Isaac, and also my covenant with Abraham will I remember; and I will remember the land.

43 The land also shall be left of them, and shall enjoy her sabbaths, while she lieth desolate without them: and they shall accept of the punishment of their iniquity: because, even because they despised my judgments, and because their soul abhorred my statutes.

44 And yet for all that, when they be in the land of their enemies, I will not cast them away, neither will I abhor them, to destroy them utterly, and to break my covenant with them: for I am the LORD their God.

45 But I will for their sakes remember the covenant of their ancestors, whom I brought forth out of the land of Egypt in the sight of the heathen, that I might be their God: I am the LORD.

46 These are the statutes and judgments and laws, which the LORD made between him and the children of Israel in mount Sinai by the hand of Moses.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2010-10-25   0:59:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: christine (#1)

let's see if the Pope will be labeled an anti-semite now.

Well, he IS German......lol I'm sure it has already been suggested many times.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-10-25   1:15:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Max (#0)

There is no longer a chosen people.

See? i've been telling everyone the Catholics are right all along. In time, all will see the truth. :-)

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2010-10-25   1:25:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#2)

Unfortunately Theodor Herzl decided that it would benefit Jews if they could convince non-Jews that that were God's Special people, that they are above others and that to not virtually worship them is wrong. That is where the idea of anti-semitism comes from.

Their “faith” is based upon hatred, revenge, mayhem, theft, and GREED

This encompass immorality with all its meanings, It is an insult to all other religion to call this cultish crap a religion. No other "sect" is as venomous Could this be the reason why these “chosen” carpet baggers were expelled from every country/state/town of every continent in the past millenniums?

Through bribery, fascism, assassinations, sexual blackmail and the mass propaganda lies against anyone who dare to tell the truth about them.

Max  posted on  2010-10-25   3:10:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Artisan (#4)

See? i've been telling everyone the Catholics are right all along. In time, all will see the truth. :-)

The books of the Christians must not be rescued from fire, but must be burned - The Babylonian Talmud, Judaism’s most holy book, Shabbat 116a

Well - according to Jewish Talmud - A Jew is permitted to lie to a Gentile - but forbidden to lie to a fellow Jews(unless there is money involved). That's is the reason more than 6,000 educated Jews, who happen to criticize Zionazis - are listed in S.H.I.T. list prepared by Israel Lobby groups.

Max  posted on  2010-10-25   3:13:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: christine (#1)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-10-25   9:08:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Artisan, Max (#4)

There is no longer a chosen people. All men and women of all countries have become the chosen people.

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There is no longer a chosen people.

See? i've been telling everyone the Catholics are right all along. In time, all will see the truth. :-)

...then I guess Jesus was wrong:

Matthew 22:14 "For many are invited, but few are chosen."

"....People's New Testament

22:14 For many are called, but few are chosen. The many called embrace all who hear the gospel; the whole Jewish nation, and the Gentiles of every land where the gospel is preached. The chosen are those who choose to accept. [see also

Wesley's Notes

22:14 Many are called; few chosen - Many hear; few believe. Yea, many are members of the visible, but few of the invisible Church. Mt 20:16....."

"....Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary

22:1-14 The provision made for perishing souls in the gospel, is represented by a royal feast made by a king, with eastern liberality, on the marriage of his son. Our merciful God has not only provided food, but a royal feast, for the perishing souls of his rebellious creatures. There is enough and to spare, of every thing that can add to our present comfort and everlasting happiness, in the salvation of his Son Jesus Christ. The guests first invited were the Jews. When the prophets of the Old Testament prevailed not, nor John the Baptist, nor Christ himself, who told them the kingdom of God was at hand, the apostles and ministers of the gospel were sent, after Christ's resurrection, to tell them it was come, and to persuade them to accept the offer. The reason why sinners come not to Christ and salvation by him, is, not because they cannot, but because they will not. Making light of Christ, and of the great salvation wrought out by him, is the damning sin of the world. They were careless. Multitudes perish for ever through mere carelessness, who show no direct aversion, but are careless as to their souls. Also the business and profit of worldly employments hinder many in closing with the Saviour. Both farmers and merchants must be diligent; but whatever we have of the world in our hands, our care must be to keep it out of our hearts, lest it come between us and Christ. The utter ruin coming upon the Jewish church and nation, is here represented. Persecution of Christ's faithful ministers fills up the measure of guilt of any people. The offer of Christ and salvation to the Gentiles was not expected; it was such a surprise as it would be to wayfaring men, to be invited to a royal wedding-feast. The design of the gospel is to gather souls to Christ; all the children of God scattered abroad, Joh 10:16; 11:52. The case of hypocrites is represented by the guest that had not on a wedding-garment. It concerns all to prepare for the scrutiny; and those, and those only, who put on the Lord Jesus, who have a Christian temper of mind, who live by faith in Christ, and to whom he is all in all, have the wedding-garment. The imputed righteousness of Christ, and the sanctification of the Spirit, are both alike necessary. No man has the wedding-garment by nature, or can form it for himself. The day is coming, when hypocrites will be called to account for all their presumptuous intruding into gospel ordinances, and usurpation of gospel privileges. Take him away. Those that walk unworthy of Christianity, forfeit all the happiness they presumptuously claimed. Our Saviour here passes out of the parable into that which it teaches. Hypocrites go by the light of the gospel itself down to utter darkness. Many are called to the wedding-feast, that is, to salvation, but few have the wedding-garment, the righteousness of Christ, the sanctification of the Spirit. Then let us examine ourselves whether we are in the faith, and seek to be approved by the King...."

bible.cc/matthew/22-14.htm

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-10-25   16:09:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#8)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2010-10-25   16:30:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: ghostdogtxn (#9)

I think that "chosen" means "selected" rather than inherently chosen due to race or tribe...

The terms of the New Covenant are pretty clear. The Jews broke the old covenant by killing God, so the new one invites all people (including Gentiles) to become God's children.

i thought that is what i said:

"...People's New Testament

22:14 For many are called, but few are chosen. The many called embrace all who hear the gospel; the whole Jewish nation, and the Gentiles of every land where the gospel is preached. The chosen are those who choose to accept. ..."

Furthermore, God's children are via Isaiah 53:10 "When you make His soul the sacrifice for sin, He shall see His seed...." [see the genealogy of Jesus through Mary: Luke 3:1-38 "....was the son of God."] Christians, and ONLY Christians [of every nation, tribe, and tongue (including both Jew and Gentile): Isaiah 49:6, Rev. 5:9-10] are the children of God.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-10-25   17:26:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#2)

"Chosen" doesn't mean they are special, they are His favorites, they are more special or anything along those line. What He meant by "chosen" is/was "You are chosen to tell others that the gods they worship are false gods. He also warned them that this responsibility carries a heavy burden and that they were/are expected to follow all His Laws/Commandments and whomever fails to do so has broken the Covenant. That is all it means, nothing more.

Isaiah 65:15 [You will leave your name for a curse to my chosen...] followed up by John 15:15-16

Matthew 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

=====================

Exodus 19:6 [to the Israelites] you will be for me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation ... bible.cc/exodus/19-6.htm

replaced by

1 Peter 2:9 [to the Christians] But ye [are] a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light [ King James Bible]

Bible in Basic English

But you are a special people, a holy nation, priests and kings, a people given up completely to God, so that you may make clear the virtues of him who took you out of the dark into the light of heaven.

bible.cc/1_peter/2-9.htm

and Revelation 5:9-10:

9And they sang a new song, saying, “Worthy are You to take the book and to break its seals; for You were slain, and purchased for God with Your blood men from every tribe and tongue and people and nation. 10“You have made them to be a kingdom and priests to our God; and they will [or, do] reign upon the earth.”

because the Kingdom has come:

Matthew 12:28 But if I drive out demons by the Spirit of God, then ... the kingdom of God is come unto you: bible.cc/matthew/12-28.htm

To re-cap, the "chosen" are Christians of every nation, tribe, and tongue, chosen to spread the gospel of the kingdom, and ONLY Christians, and sorry to the "infallible" pope, but....according to the Bible, they live and reign on the earth now!

[i know that you knew all that]

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-10-25   17:30:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#11)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2010-10-25   17:37:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Max (#0)

The Vatican has an agenda.

search "The Vatican covets Jerusalem".

Interesting tidbit from ezine:

"UN Resolution 181: Blueprint of the Beast?

As Hitler clearly outlined his plans in Mein Kampf (and furiously put them into practice his first opportunity), so the United Nations passed an ominous resolution in 1947 concerning the fate of Jerusalem: UN Resolution 181 demands the Holy City submit to the status of an "international city." That's a glorified term for ENEMY OCCUPATION!

The Vatican was behind this vile idea and persuades her puppet politicians to support it. Jesuit-fascists have been laying in wait, patiently working underground, eager to emerge and spring their GRAND DESIGN upon an unsuspecting world: GERMANY'S FOURTH REICH - the revival of the so-called Holy Roman Empire!

Captive Jerusalem - held hostage to foreign ideas and alien restraints - would be subject to remote control by an imposed "GOVERNOR" and his entourage of "INTERNATIONAL OFFICERS." These proposed ministers of Church and State are to be neither citizens of Israel or Palestine. Watch for these seats to be filled with dormant monarchs from Europe (Part III. City of Jerusalem).

The Bible brands this counterfeit "King of kings" as THE BEAST! (Rev.13:18, 17:12). Such a royal European "governor" (promoted by the pope, endorsed by the Vatican, and stamped with the German mark of approval) - an anointed Merovingian Messiah - will wage an unholy war against all opposition! This modern Antiochus Epiphanes ("god in the flesh") will strike the "Time of Jacob's Trouble" and unleash the "Great Tribulation" of WWIII!......."

[that may be THEIR plan now or in the past; God has His own]

The Vatican has the outlines of the Union Jack, flag of the Judeo-British Empire [think The City of London/Rothschild] imprinted over the courtyard. The Queen has cozied up to the Pope and Charles has cozied up to Islam, and now is referred to as "Charles, Defender of the faithS". See also "British Freemasonry Covets Jerusalem (Israel)".

The previous Pope climbed up Mt. Sinai with a Muslim and a Rabbi. See Galatians 4:21-31. Benedict, according to realzionistnews, has "Affirmed the Noahide Laws", which label Christians idolators to be beheaded, which would make this pope just another false prophet, and this whole statement thing, imho, is just another Illuminati psy-op.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-10-25   17:49:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: ghostdogtxn (#12)

And to top it off, "Israel" is a no more holy patch of dirt than any other landfill.

no argument here!

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-10-25   17:50:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Max (#0) (Edited)

Holy Qur’an compares Jesus (as) with other great biblical prophets, i.e., Moses, David and Solomon. Holy Qur’an also put Jesus’ mother Mary among the four most praised righteous women.

“‘Behold’! the Angel said; ‘O’ Marriam, Allah hath chosen thee and purified thee, and chosen thee above women of all nations,” Holy Qur’an (3:42).

Furthemore, Holy Qur’an has an entire Surah Marriam (Chapter) dedicated to Jesus’ mother

I watched the clip best I could...

I knew Islam revered Jesus as a prophet, and Mary as His mother.

I have read that the Blue Beam Project will connect Mary with Fatima, and so bring Muslims over to the Roman Catholic Church. From what I could make of the video clip, they seem to be worshipping Mary as the Catholic Church does.

Search also, "The Vatican Invented Islam"; and also "Mystery Babylon the Great, Catholic or Jewish" [watch.pair.com]

As I said, just more psy-op.

==============

edit: just more ILLUMINATI psy-op

THE POPE IS DECLARED TO BE A "PROPER RECEPTOR TO THE NEW AGE ANTICHRIST... Subtitle: The Director of the House of Theosophy, Bill Lambert, declares that the Roman Catholic Pope is going to be a "proper receptor" to the Antichrist ... www.cuttingedge.org/articles/rc104.htm

ONE-WORLD RELIGION NOW OFFICIALLY BORN!! A SPIRITUAL EQUIVALENT TO ... THE CUTTING EDGE. NEWS BRIEF: "Interfaith Meeting Gives Birth to United Religions", ... www.uniuri.org. "Nearly 200 delegates wrapped up a week- long .... And, since the Pope is a... www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1094.cfm

I think the Pope and the Roman Catholic Church have been deliberately set-up as the "False Prophet", "Whore of Babylon", etc., so he and TRUE Christianity can be killed with the same stone, and "Judeo-British-Israel" set up on our ashes. Jesus laughs [Psalm 2].

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-10-25   17:57:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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