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Title: Ex-Jew reveals the evil within Jewry
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Published: Oct 29, 2010
Author: Br Kapner
Post Date: 2010-10-29 11:48:00 by Itistoolate
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Comments: 142

Ex-Jew reveals the evil within Jewry

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#1. To: Itistoolate (#0)

It's quite obvious to everyone here that you hate Jews.

Aren't Christians supposed to preach love and peace, not hatred of others?

As I mentioned on a different thread, I find it absolutely hypocritical that those who claim to follow the Jewish Messiah not only hate the Jewish Messiah's religion, but the very people who follow that religion.

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-10-29   11:59:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: FormerLurker (#1)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-10-29   12:14:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Eric Stratton (#5)

And who wrote all those words you just posted?

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-10-29   12:19:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: FormerLurker (#8)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-10-29   12:20:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Eric Stratton (#10)

You tell me?

Writers who lived at least a century after his death. Roman writers, under authority of the emperor.

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-10-29   12:21:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: FormerLurker (#13)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-10-29   12:24:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Eric Stratton (#15)

So you're claiming that the disciples did not write it?

There is an abundance of evidence that they did not. In fact, many scholarly theological works themselves indicate that the names of the Gospel authors may not refer to the actual apostles, but pen names used by some later authors. Remember it was the Romans who created the book known as the New Testament, it didn't exist till at least 400 years after the death of Jesus as defined by those writing the book.

Allow me to ask, do you see what the Jews are doing today, namely those that claim to be jews, as "good" as Christ would define it? Or not? And I'm talking on a global scale here, not in minutae at the civil level here and there, which is irrelevant.

I see misery and suffering caused by BOTH the Jewish and Christian religions, as well as that caused by the Islamic religion.

I'd say the Christians have on a whole caused more suffering than the Jews have, when you consider the various Inquisitions, witch trials, Crusades, and other such matters.

Not many Christians are close to being "good" as described by their own religion.

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-10-29   16:16:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: FormerLurker (#44)

I see misery and suffering caused by BOTH the Jewish and Christian religions, as well as that caused by the Islamic religion.

I'd say the Christians have on a whole caused more suffering than the Jews have, when you consider the various Inquisitions, witch trials, Crusades, and other such matters.

Show me the math.

GreyLmist  posted on  2010-11-02   17:34:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: GreyLmist (#121)

Show me the math.

Well for an example, how many Christians don't wholeheartedly support the killing going on over there in Iraq and Afghanistan?

But not even including that, how many people were hidiously tortured to death by the Church itself in the first 1000 years of its history?

How many were killed by the various Crusades?

I don't recall reading about any religious persecution perpetrated by the Jews back then. In fact, they were among the ones being persecuted.

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-11-02   18:24:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: FormerLurker (#123)

How many were killed by the various Crusades?

On the subject of the Crusades, it seems that you then want to disassociate Christianity from Jewish scriptures but there is evidence that a big motive of the Crusades was to re-enthrone a Davidic bloodline in the Holy Land. Do you agree or disagree?

I'd also like to hear what you think of Br. Kapner's assessment that if you put two Jews in a room for a week, by the end of the week they'll have formed 25 groups -- all of them Jewish oriented. I thought it was funny but probably not a big exaggeration. How about you?

GreyLmist  posted on  2010-11-02   21:49:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#133. To: GreyLmist (#131)

On the subject of the Crusades, it seems that you then want to disassociate Christianity from Jewish scriptures but there is evidence that a big motive of the Crusades was to re-enthrone a Davidic bloodline in the Holy Land. Do you agree or disagree?

Whatever the motive, how does this fit in with a religion formulated to worship and follow a "Prince of Peace"?

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-11-03 10:21:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: GreyLmist (#131)

BTW, what sort of peaceful and holy people would inflict the sick sadistic forms of torture imposed upon those who refused to believe the state mandated religion of christianty, or were even just accused of an infraction against it?

The Inquisitions victims included men, women, children, and even babies.

10 Most Frightening Torture Techniques from the Middle Ages

From INQUISITION

In 1320 the inquisition added witchcraft to its list of heresies. Many styles of torture had been invented during the inquisition so as to inflict the most horrific pain on the poor victim without killing them. The worst of these were turned upon those accused of witchcraft.

With pope innocent v111 issuance of his papal bull against witches in 1484, the torture of people accused of being a witch reached fanatical proportions. The worst tortures of the inquisition occured in Germany and France.

Millions of innocent people were tortured and murdered during the inquisition. The inquisitors followed procedures set forth by the dominican monks of pope innocent v111. At first the poor accused were told to confess. They were then stripped naked, shaved, pricked with needles for insensitive spots and then examined for marks of the devil.

Before the torture started, the victim was told what was about to happen and in many cases this forced the accused to commit to whatever the inquisitors wanted.

It was noted that a person who refused to talk even under torture was being aided by the devil. While the poor victim was being tortured a clerk recorded what was said. In many cases the clerk recorded things that were not even said.

Each subsequent round of torture was much worse than the one before. The torturer was paid out of seized funds belonging to the victim. If the victim had no money then the relatives were made to pay.

While the poor victims screamed with pain the childish tortures carried on like sadistic maniacs. They sprayed there instruments with so called holy water, wore amulets, herbs and crossed themselves. The exact method of torture varied from place to place. The rack was well used in France during the inquisition.

Some victims were horsewhipped. A sharp iron fork was used to mangle breasts. Red hot pincers were used to tear off flesh. Red hot irons were inserted up vaginas and rectums. A device named the turcas was used to tear out fingernails.

After the nails were ripped out needles were shoved into the quicks. Boots called bootikens were used to lacerate flesh and crush bone. Thumbscrews were used to crush the fingers and toes. Acid was poured on victims and hands were immersed into pots of boiling oil and water.

Eyes were gouged out by irons. Alcohol was poured on the head of the poor victim and set alight. Water was poured down the victims throat with a notted cloth. The cloth was then jerked out tearing up the victims bowels.

There was no limit to the types and cruelty of the tortures. The inquisition meant anything was allowed. The inquisitors were sadistic and mentally disturbered.

Even after the poor victims confessed to things they never did more torture was to follow. On the way to the stake or gallows victims were flogged, burned, branded and had their hands and tongues hacked off. By the 17th century as the catholic church began to loose power the inquisition began to collapse. Millions had died as a result of the inquisition, including men, women, children and babys.

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-11-03 10:39:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: GreyLmist (#131)

A Heretic's Final Journey

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