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Title: Ex-Jew reveals the evil within Jewry
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Published: Oct 29, 2010
Author: Br Kapner
Post Date: 2010-10-29 11:48:00 by Itistoolate
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Ex-Jew reveals the evil within Jewry

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#1. To: Itistoolate (#0)

It's quite obvious to everyone here that you hate Jews.

Aren't Christians supposed to preach love and peace, not hatred of others?

As I mentioned on a different thread, I find it absolutely hypocritical that those who claim to follow the Jewish Messiah not only hate the Jewish Messiah's religion, but the very people who follow that religion.

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-10-29   11:59:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: FormerLurker (#1)

All your observations are predicate on falsehoods. Christ wasn't a Jew. He was an Israelite. Jews hate Christ. The religion practiced by today's Jews isn't from the Old Testament. Christ warned us against the Jews.

Brian D  posted on  2010-10-29   12:07:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Brian D (#2)

Christ warned us against the Jews.

A) You have no idea what Jesus said because what he may or may not have said certainly wasn't recorded by those who killed him, ie. the Romans.

B) Jesus was a Jew. An Essene Jew, not a Pharisee, but a Jew nonetheless.

You see, Judaism is the religion of the Old Testament (Tanakh). The Protestant Church didn't write the Old Testament, the Hebrews did, and they called their religion Judaism.

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-10-29   12:13:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: FormerLurker (#4)

and they called their religion Judaism.

You realize of course that "Judaism" is a latinate English word.

I would be pleased to know both the ancient and contemporary words for that term in Hebrew.

randge  posted on  2010-10-29   13:15:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: randge (#20)

You realize of course that "Judaism" is a latinate English word.

Yes of course it's an English word, but it means the religion of the Old Testament.

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-10-29   13:36:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: FormerLurker (#22)

You realize of course that "Judaism" is a latinate English word.
Yes of course it's an English word, but it means the religion of the Old Testament.

Yes, but that's not what I asked you.

In the times of which we speak, there was no Old Testament either as it constituted today.

What are the contemporary and ancient words for "Judaism" in Hebrew?

randge  posted on  2010-10-29   13:43:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: randge (#25)

In the times of which we speak, there was no Old Testament either as it constituted today.

The Tanakh is what Christians call the Old Testament, the first 5 books of which are called the Torah.

What are the contemporary and ancient words for "Judaism" in Hebrew?

Well here's the exact answser...

From Origin of the Word "Judaism"

Question

Why is the religion called "Judaism" as opposed to "Jewism" since we are called Jews (compared to Hindus and Hinduism or Christians and Christianity)?

Answer

The words Jews and Judaism are English words derived from the Hebrew words, respectively of "Yehudim" and "Yahadut." Yehudim (Jews) practice Yahadut (Judaism), which refers to the body of Jewish religious thought, customs, symbols, rituals and laws.

In the early 1st millennium BCE, Judaism got its name from "Judah", the land of the Hebrews. We find the term “Judaism” used in the first century CE by Greek- speaking Jews. References include the Second Book of Maccabees 2:21 and 8:1. “Yahadut” or “dat Yahadut” is used infrequently in medieval commentaries, e.g. Ibn Ezra, but it is used extensively in modern Jewish history.

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-10-29   13:59:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: FormerLurker (#27)

In the early 1st millennium BCE, Judaism got its name from "Judah", the land of the Hebrews. We find the term “Judaism” used in the first century CE by Greek- speaking Jews. References include the Second Book of Maccabees 2:21 and 8:1. “Yahadut” or “dat Yahadut” is used infrequently in medieval commentaries, e.g. Ibn Ezra, but it is used extensively in modern Jewish history.

Thank you for the reference.

23 Now as he left off speaking these words, there came a certain Jew in the sight of all to sacrifice to the idols upon the altar in the city of Modin, according to the king's commandment.

Well, that takes us back to the 2nd Century BC, I guess. That well postdates the time of the Hebrews who I don't believe you can document to have ever called themselves Jews or to have called their religion Judaism.

randge  posted on  2010-10-29   14:27:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: randge (#28)

That well postdates the time of the Hebrews who I don't believe you can document to have ever called themselves Jews or to have called their religion Judaism.

Uh, who do you suppose lived in Israel back then?

Were they Muslim in your opinion? Perhaps Jesus prayed to Allah?

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-10-29   14:35:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#30. To: FormerLurker (#29)

No one that treats the subject seriously calls the Hebrews Jews. As you know, this word refers to the tribe of Judah who constitute but one of the Twelve Tribes. The term Jew is properly applied to the people of largely Hebrew extraction who returned to Palestine after the Captivity. Judaism refers to the religion that emerged from the time of the Captivity and which had incorporated a number of Babylonian elements.

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