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Published: Oct 29, 2010
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#30. To: FormerLurker (#29)
No one that treats the subject seriously calls the Hebrews Jews. As you know, this word refers to the tribe of Judah who constitute but one of the Twelve Tribes. The term Jew is properly applied to the people of largely Hebrew extraction who returned to Palestine after the Captivity. Judaism refers to the religion that emerged from the time of the Captivity and which had incorporated a number of Babylonian elements.
I would like to direct this to the distinguished members of the panel: You lousy cork-soakers. You have violated my farging rights. Dis somanumbatching country was founded so that the liberties of common patriotic citizens like me could not be taken away by a bunch of fargin iceholes... like yourselves. Thank you. - Roman Moroni
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
Exposing the cult of Judaism is not hate, it is proclaiming the truth. If you think exposing the truth of Judaism is equal to hate then you should feel welcome with those that practice Judaism today, they think the same thing.
God is always good!
Very well put.
Do you know that Israel is a religious state? Without the cult of Judaism Israel wouldn't exist today.
God is always good!
Hear, hear! The truth is not hate.
Great comment also.
Well I'm sorry I'm not so picky in my definition. Anyone who follows the Torah and who follows the faith defined by the Tanakh is following Judaism in not just my own opinion, but that of most people. If you wish to speak of the time 200 years after the birth of Jesus (as defined by the Romans), then yes, they picked up the Babylonian Talmud as well as the Palestinian Talmud. You can't even think of a word which defines the religion of the Old Testament can you. Go ahead and tell me what it is if it's not Judaism.
So by inference, that means without Christianity there would be no Rome? Zionism is not defined in the Old Testament, and those who practice Judaism are not necessarily Zionists. Do you think all Christians look forward to a "rapture", and are trying to bring it about, just because SOME of them are? There IS no rapture in the original religion, that's something some TV evangelists tacked on for their own benefit, sort of like how some Rabbis dreamed up the Talmud.
Apparently you have no clue as to what Judaism is about. Have you ever heard of the Old Testament? It was written by those of the Jewish faith, as THAT is their religion. Thing is, most Christians can't conceive of a God that isn't in human form, so anything other than the concept of a man dying on a cross is satanic to them.
I think people who get caught up in words written by men as if they were written by the Creator of this Universe are not all there, especially when they apply those notions to breed hatred against those with similar beliefs, but use a different name for the same subset of books they each identify with.
BTW, not all Hebrews followed Judaism, just as not all Romans followed Christianity, at least not back then (those who didn't agree to the new Roman state religion were put to death BTW). Again, it's the difference between the name of a group of people by region or race, as opposed to which religion they followed. Hebrew is not a religion, it's a language and a group of people named for their origins and race, not their religion.
That's old school "liberal" Christianity man! Today's "real" Christians know that Jesus was a God of War and that Christians have a duty to kill Muslim's and wipe them off of the face of the Earth while making the world safe for Democracy! Jesus was a Republican. And a Democrat. He can do that because he is God! Love and peace are nothing more than Marxist code words for slavery man! Get with the program. No one who's anyone believes that rot-gut anymore. If God wanted us to love them he would have made them Jew's or Americans!
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
So you're claiming that the disciples did not write it? There is an abundance of evidence that they did not. In fact, many scholarly theological works themselves indicate that the names of the Gospel authors may not refer to the actual apostles, but pen names used by some later authors. Remember it was the Romans who created the book known as the New Testament, it didn't exist till at least 400 years after the death of Jesus as defined by those writing the book. Allow me to ask, do you see what the Jews are doing today, namely those that claim to be jews, as "good" as Christ would define it? Or not? And I'm talking on a global scale here, not in minutae at the civil level here and there, which is irrelevant. I see misery and suffering caused by BOTH the Jewish and Christian religions, as well as that caused by the Islamic religion. I'd say the Christians have on a whole caused more suffering than the Jews have, when you consider the various Inquisitions, witch trials, Crusades, and other such matters. Not many Christians are close to being "good" as described by their own religion.
didn't you post once that you practice kabbalah?
"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13 I don't recall saying that I did. I said the Essenes (the spiritual sect of the Jewish faith, notably that of Jesus the Navarene if you follow the historical evidence) more than likely did in that it pertains to esoteric spiritual matters. The Kabbalah is said to provide a person with the means of becoming one with God. That should be the goal of any spiritual person, as opposed to a religious person who simply follows the doctrine of that which he is told to believe in.
it sounds now like you're favorable to it, & i had thought you had posted that you had dabbled in it. i point this out because that would indicate your bias & defensiveness regarding the jews. no?
"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13 Hmmmmm... Double Speak? Jesus must have been speaking in code. "Peace" = War.
~~~~~~~ Paul put together a religion about his Mastor Jesus Christ with much of his own derivative of the truth. We should study the religion OF Jesus rather than the religion ABOUT Jesus. Of all human knowledge, that which is of greatest value is to know the religious life of Jesus a how He lived it. ooops
~~~~~~~ Have you been paying attention for the past 10 years or so? I've posted about the "dancing Israelis", the treachery involved in the bombing of the Marine barracks over in Lebanon and how Israel was more than likely behind it, the horror of what is being inflicted on the Palestinian people, along with countless other things. I'm not a Jew, yet I have no inbred hatred of them. I am against what the NATION of Israel does in terms of evil deeds, what ZIONISTS CHRISTIANS have done in support of those deeds, as well as what Israeli Jews have done in carrying out those deeds. Thing is some of you folks feel that it's either "you're with us or against us". If someone has a different point of view in terms of religion, then they must be satanic or some shit, yet so-called Christians have caused more horror on this earth in the name of Christ than most of the world's other religions combined. Sure the Jews and the Muslims have done their share of horrible things, and continue to do so. Thing is, they don't have a monopoly on it. That I've studied spiritual matters derived from the foundations of your own religion should not scare you or cause you to view me differently, if anything, you should try to understand things beyond the veil, and find truth on your own rather than being told to accept whatever is fed to you or you'll "burn in hell". No caring and loving God would do such a thing as damn people to eternal suffering, and that is part of the problem, many of you folks think that he would and help "him" do exactly that using your own methods and forms of punishment. Do you even know ANYTHING at all about the Kabbalah? If anything, it touches upon a fountain of spiritual knowledge that has been known for eons of time, where those who followed it were peaceful people who only wished to co-exist peacefully with Nature and live in harmony with that which exists within and beyond our material world. That it has been twisted and distorted into other things is human nature. Yet any person can find the truth in it if he or she wants to, and by so doing, finds there is more to this Universe than what is written in books.
Do you know the difference between a religion and a country? As to your question, Israel is a "Jewish State" wherein there is no separation between religion and country. Arabs, Christians or any other race/religion are second class citizens at best. You ask if others know the difference between a religion and a country, but within the country we are discussing there is no differnce. It is a "Jewish state" despite pretending to be a democracy.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
"Does not their Talmud say, and do not their rabbis write, that it is no sin to kill if a Jew kills a heathen, but it is a sin if he kills a brother in Israel? It is no sin if he does not keep his oath to a heathen. Therefore, to steal and rob, as they do with their usury, from a heathen is a divine service. For they hold that they cannot be too hard on us nor sin against us, because they are of the noble blood and circumcised saints; we, however, are cursed goyim. And they are the masters of the world, and we are their servants, yea, their cattle... Jewish History, Jewish Religion The Weight of Three Thousand Years by Professor Israel Shahak
"There is no compulsion in religion," – Holy Qur'an ----------- Muhammad (swt) reportedly said: * He, who is a parasite to others, shall be condemned in the eyes of God, the Almighty.--------------------- " It’s immoral and cowardice to ask Muslims not to resist foreign aggression. ---------------- If Muslims leave the Zionist Jews alone - they would destroy Islamic culture as they did with Judaism and Christianity - Henry Makow, PhD. -------------------- Talmud is the most hateful religious literature in the world - professor Israel Shahak
yes it does still formerlurker thinks they are G_d's "chosen people" go figure
Should we be surprised that Jews lie about the racist and anti-Christian statements in the Talmud in lieu of the above Talmud citation? Absolutely not. They are commanded to mislead and lie to Christians when a Christian asks if the Talmud contains anything against them. Zohar (1, 160a): Jews MUST ALWAYS try to deceive Christians. "The heirs of the Pharisees often deny the existence of the Talmud passages here cited, in order to brazenly claim that such passages are the 'fabrications of anti-semites.'" - Michael Hoffman II "Judaism's Strange gods," p.72 "In 1994, Rabbi Tzvi Marx, director of Applied Education at the Shalom Hartman Institute in Jerusalem, made a remarkable admission concerning how Jewish rabbis in the past have issued two sets of texts: the authentic Talmudic texts with which they instruct their own youth in the Talmud schools (yeshiviot) and "censured and amended" versions which they disseminate to gullible non-Jews for public consumption." Michael Hoffman II, "Judaism's Strange gods," pg.71
"There is no compulsion in religion," – Holy Qur'an ----------- Muhammad (swt) reportedly said: * He, who is a parasite to others, shall be condemned in the eyes of God, the Almighty.--------------------- " It’s immoral and cowardice to ask Muslims not to resist foreign aggression. ---------------- If Muslims leave the Zionist Jews alone - they would destroy Islamic culture as they did with Judaism and Christianity - Henry Makow, PhD. -------------------- Talmud is the most hateful religious literature in the world - professor Israel Shahak
And Saudi Arabia and many other Middle Eastern countries are Muslim states, and many European nations are basically Christian states. So? What I find odd is that people who I normally find to be level headed get all hateful towards anything concerning the origins of their own religion, ie. there WOULD be no Christianity without the Old Testament and the prophecy of a Messiah. Yet people link the ancient origins of their own religion to a fairly recently formed country which they don't like, with good reason, but the country does not define the religion, nor does the religion define the country. Zionism may or may not be classified as a religion, but it certainly isn't Judaism, it's political in nature, and not what constitutes the Jewish faith.
Did you get that off a Jew hate board? The Zohar has NOTHING to do with crap like that, and any person who cares about truth would know that. The more I read here, the more sickened I am. Sometimes I wonder if I should just stand back and let everyone fight it out and kill each other, thing is, you folks ALWAYS drag the innocent down with you, just as in Iraq, Afghanistan, and a myraid number of other spots around the world throughout history where the ignorant have led the way to the slaughter of millions of innocent people.
You know what I REALLY think? I think religious zealots such as you are the cause of most of the evil on this earth. The Jews lied, the Christians lied, and the Muslims lied. They are ALL fucking crazy, and prefer death and suffering over life and peace. Go at it, do yourselves in. You most certainly deserve each other. In fact, isn't it your sort of "pastor" who calls the Jews "God's chosen"? Aren't you a Hagee worshipper? Myself, I think we are all children of the Creator, yet most are obviously his bastard children from some failed attempt at creating something special.
but the country does not define the religion, nor does the religion define the country. Zionism may or may not be classified as a religion, but it certainly isn't Judaism, it's political in nature, and not what constitutes the Jewish faith. Yes. The only difference is that these Muslim countries don't pretend to be democracies. They admit and are proud to be Muslim theocracies. Israel, on the other hand, pretends to be a democracy but the Jewish state is yet another ME theocracy. The religion most definitely does define the Jewish State. There is no argument regarding this fact, save for one you are attempting to make that makes no sense. Israel is a JEWISH state, hence defined by the Jewish religion. Zionism is the state of Israel and Israel is a Jewish State. It is the political extention of the Jewish religion. You are making some distinctions that defy logic.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
The Zohar is doesn't state that. However, the Talmud most definitely does teach that.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Show me where in the Old Testament God orders the Israelis to kill Palestinians in order to occupy the land, and torment them mercilessly. Does it say that in your Bible? I can't seem to find it in the versions I've seen. Show me where in the Old Testament it is ordered that an IDF be created, funded by an American state of so-called Christians. However, I CAN find references to "God" ordering "his children" to kill all the men, women, children, even the infants of their enemies. Of course their animals were condemned to die as well. Here's the KJV rendition of the verse (1 Samuel 15:3); More than likely the "Israelites" decided they needed "God" to not only approve of what they intended to do, they decided they wanted God to ORDER them to do it. What a convenient way to get away with genocide. Hence, Christianity is utter crap since the Old Testament IS pure BS, and whatever "New" version that exists is pure BS as well since it was based upon that "Old" which everyone thinks is satanic anyways by their own admission.
Let us go down after the Philistines by night and spoil them until the mornigh light, and let us not leave a man of them. Samuel, xiv, 36. The remnant of the Philistines shall perish, saith the Lord God. Amos, i, 8. The day that cometh to spoil ALL the Philistines. Jeremiah, xlvii, 4.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
I've heard many Internet rumors which make that claim, but have not seen any definitive proof that it's true. I'm sure the fact the books are written in Hebrew (or Aramic) doesn't help clarify anything, and at this point it's clear that mainstream religions are false belief systems anyways, so anything is possible.
The remnant of the Philistines shall perish, saith the Lord God. Amos, i, 8. The day that cometh to spoil ALL the Philistines. Jeremiah, xlvii, 4. So then you admit that Judaism and Christianity (and Islam by inference) are false religions?
Research it. You can find accounts written by multiple Christian teachings, from Catholic to Methodist, detailing exactly what is stated in the Talmud. There was a great deal written about the topic at the turn at the Century and during WWI by from numerous sources. The Talmud became a topic of interest as Christians churches were burned by the thousands in Russia while Synagogues were increasing in numbers, also as the 2% Jewish population held 40% of all government jobs as communism was implemented. Where do you think that Rabbi in Israel gets his ideas that the goyim are just slaves for Jews and that they should have a long life, like a donkey, to do the heavy lifting for the Jewish people? Do you think the Rabbi just came up with a new teaching? It's all in the Talmud and to any person who has an iota of knowledge about the Talmud the Rabbi's comments aren't even surprising.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
You asked where the Biblical teachings were and I provided a few answers. I do not make that claim that the Abrahamic faiths are false religions because it is disrespectful to people who hold these beliefs as sacred. I think all relgions offer something of value for people and it is not for me to judge. However, I do note the hypocricy and cherry picking of Biblical verses or Koran quotes to justify despicable behavior. Personally, I think the Christian faith would be lovely if people opted to follow the Sermon on the Mount. Sadly, few do.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
actually, i do. i always encourage dialogue & am one of the most diplomatic peacemaking posters here, if i can say so myself :-) i dont know about kaballah, other than its some sort of jewish mysticism taught in public schools in los angeles. & i knew you were into it, which doesn't mean i was accusing you of being a zionist jew, The broader note - peoples religion here, or lack thereof doesn't really concern me. i understand youre offended when you constantly see 'jew bashing' posts at 4um. you remind that Christians should be loving. That's a good point. However- when you constantly couple that point with your 'Religion is superstitious garbage, Christianity is a controlling farce, the bible is fictional nonsense' rhetoric, your previously valid points will be immediately rejected, as you attack the personal faith of your target audience. not an effective tactic at all.
"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13 I bash those who bash others, and find that there is much hypocrisy going around. At this point I can just shake my head and see why this world will never be peaceful, as most would rather just love to hate and use whatever excuse they can find to focus and target that hate. My first words here on this thread were that I found it " absolutely hypocritical that those who claim to follow the Jewish Messiah not only hate the Jewish Messiah's religion, but the very people who follow that religion. " That people over time corrupted that religion and made it something it was not is besides the point, as not all people of that faith believe in the mainstream faith, and some even believe that Jesus is the Messiah, but in the form of a prophet. Many here hold the false belief that Judaism in general is about hating Christians. There WOULD be no Jesus Christ if it were not for the foundation of Judaism, since Judaism predicates the fact that Jesus is said to be the Son of the Father, and that Father is the God of the Old Testament. Folks can believe whatever they want to believe that they find in books or make up themselves, but the thing is, many then use those beliefs as a basis for their hatred, and actually launch wars and kill people over it. That is where the line is crossed, and where I no longer hold my tongue. The majority of the reason we are killing people in Iraq and Afghanistan isn't because Israel wants it done, but because "Christians" here in THIS country believe it HAS to be done. Must kill those nasty Mooselum sand niggers ya know.
I personally think I should just study Buddism and give up trying to help people who don't want help. What will happen will happen, no matter what.
but the people here who focus on the 'evil jews' are not by any means among the pro war side. that is why i thought your remark above about worshiping Hagee was odd. if the poster doesn't like zionist jews, they certainly dont like hagee, & they arent scared of muslims, etc. They have looked for the man behind the curtain, & found a 'jew scoundrel' behind many of the world's problems.
"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13 in closing i will just reiterate that i acknowledge & concede your point that broadbrushing all jews & constantly obsessing on them is not proper .
"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
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#31. To: FormerLurker (#26)
#32. To: FormerLurker (#1)
Aren't Christians supposed to preach love and peace, not hatred of others?
#33. To: RickyJ (#32)
#34. To: FormerLurker (#3)
Do you know the difference between a religion and a country?
#35. To: RickyJ (#32)
#36. To: Brian D (#2)
#37. To: randge (#30)
No one that treats the subject seriously calls the Hebrews Jews. As you know, this word refers to the tribe of Judah who constitute but one of the Twelve Tribes. The term Jew is properly applied to the people of largely Hebrew extraction who returned to Palestine after the Captivity. Judaism refers to the religion that emerged from the time of the Captivity and which had incorporated a number of Babylonian elements.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#38. To: RickyJ (#34)
Without the cult of Judaism Israel wouldn't exist today.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#39. To: ghostdogtxn (#31)
What makes you think the Jews worship God?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#40. To: RickyJ (#32)
Exposing the cult of Judaism is not hate, it is proclaiming the truth. If you think exposing the truth of Judaism is equal to hate then you should feel welcome with those that practice Judaism today, they think the same thing.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#41. To: randge (#30)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#42. To: FormerLurker (#1)
Aren't Christians supposed to preach love and peace, not hatred of others?
#43. To: FormerLurker (#39)
#44. To: Eric Stratton (#15)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#45. To: FormerLurker (#1)
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#46. To: Artisan (#45)
didn't you post once that you practice kabbalah?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#47. To: FormerLurker (#46)
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#48. To: Eric Stratton (#14)
Funny though, I don't recall Christ sponsoring such things, even in his most distant indirect references. I do recall him calling for peace.
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#49. To: FormerLurker (#17)
(Edited)
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...teachings were far different than those formulated by the Roman Catholic Church and the "apostle" Paul. Of all human knowledge, that which is of greatest value is to know the religious life of Jesus and how He lived it.
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#50. To: Artisan (#47)
it sounds now like you're favorable to it, & i had thought you had posted that you had dabbled in it. i point this out because that would indicate your bias & defensiveness regarding the jews. no?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#51. To: FormerLurker (#23)
#52. To: Itistoolate (#0)
#53. To: Max (#52)
#54. To: Itistoolate (#0)
#55. To: abraxas (#51)
You ask if others know the difference between a religion and a country, but within the country we are discussing there is no differnce. It is a "Jewish state" despite pretending to be a democracy.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#56. To: Max (#54)
Zohar (1, 160a): Jews MUST ALWAYS try to deceive Christians.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#57. To: Itistoolate, Max (#53)
still formerlurker thinks they are G_d's "chosen people"
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#58. To: FormerLurker (#55)
And Saudi Arabia and many other Middle Eastern countries are Muslim states
#59. To: FormerLurker (#56)
The Zohar has NOTHING to do with crap like that
#60. To: abraxas (#58)
The religion most definitely does define the Jewish State. There is no argument regarding this fact, save for one you are attempting to make that makes no sense. Israel is a JEWISH state, hence defined by the Jewish religion.
Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.
If anything, the more I read of the Old Testament the more I realize what utter crap it is, where NO loving God would do what is cited.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#61. To: FormerLurker (#60)
Show me where in the Old Testament God orders the Israelis to kill Palestinians in order to occupy the land, and torment them mercilessly.
#62. To: abraxas (#59)
However, the Talmud most definitely does teach that.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#63. To: abraxas (#61)
Let us go down after the Philistines by night and spoil them until the mornigh light, and let us not leave a man of them. Samuel, xiv, 36.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#64. To: FormerLurker (#62)
I've heard many Internet rumors which make that claim, but have not seen any definitive proof that it's true.
#65. To: FormerLurker (#63)
So then you admit that Judaism and Christianity (and Islam by inference) are false religions?
#66. To: FormerLurker (#50)
you should try to understand things
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#67. To: Artisan (#66)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#68. To: abraxas (#65)
Personally, I think the Christian faith would be lovely if people opted to follow the Sermon on the Mount. Sadly, few do.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#69. To: FormerLurker (#67)
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#70. To: FormerLurker (#67)
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
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