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Title: Ex-Jew reveals the evil within Jewry
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Published: Oct 29, 2010
Author: Br Kapner
Post Date: 2010-10-29 11:48:00 by Itistoolate
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Ex-Jew reveals the evil within Jewry

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#1. To: Itistoolate (#0)

It's quite obvious to everyone here that you hate Jews.

Aren't Christians supposed to preach love and peace, not hatred of others?

As I mentioned on a different thread, I find it absolutely hypocritical that those who claim to follow the Jewish Messiah not only hate the Jewish Messiah's religion, but the very people who follow that religion.

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-10-29   11:59:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: FormerLurker (#1)

All your observations are predicate on falsehoods. Christ wasn't a Jew. He was an Israelite. Jews hate Christ. The religion practiced by today's Jews isn't from the Old Testament. Christ warned us against the Jews.

Brian D  posted on  2010-10-29   12:07:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Brian D (#2)

Christ warned us against the Jews.

A) You have no idea what Jesus said because what he may or may not have said certainly wasn't recorded by those who killed him, ie. the Romans.

B) Jesus was a Jew. An Essene Jew, not a Pharisee, but a Jew nonetheless.

You see, Judaism is the religion of the Old Testament (Tanakh). The Protestant Church didn't write the Old Testament, the Hebrews did, and they called their religion Judaism.

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-10-29   12:13:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: FormerLurker (#4)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-10-29   12:16:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Eric Stratton (#7)

As well FL, Christ spoke of spiritual things. Eph. 6:12 was part of that.

I think there's actual historical evidence, whether it be circumstantial or literal, that Jesus was an Essene whose teachings were far different than those formulated by the Roman Catholic Church and the "apostle" Paul.

If you're interested, here's some info on that...

ESSENE CHRISTIANITY VERSUS PAULIANITY

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-10-29   12:34:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: FormerLurker (#17)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-10-30   20:07:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Eric Stratton (#74)

The Roman Catholic Church's teachings are so far off what those of Christ are and the reality of the situation that it's folly for me to even consider that premise.

The Roman Catholic Church defined Christianity. They wrote the New Testament.

However, there is historical fact which disputes what they wrote.

What do you think you know of Paul? Short story is, he had Jesus' followers rounded up and executed. Claiming to be an apostle, he wrote his version of the events, or someone writing under his name did.

Those same authors or others, under supervision and authority of Rome, authored the OTHER Gospels as well.

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-10-31   1:32:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: FormerLurker (#82)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-10-31   8:50:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#90. To: Eric Stratton (#85)

Paul did round up christians and kill them, before becoming a believer himself. Or have you got some other relatively concrete evidence to the contrary.

Who do you think wiped out the Essenes?

BTW, what makes you think Paul was a "believer"?

From ESSENE CHRISTIANITY VERSUS PAULIANITY

In The Story of Christian Origins, Martin Larson writes:

"Paul declares that... the Elect may even eat meat sacrificed to idols.... Whereas Jesus honored women and found in them His most devoted followers, Paul never tires of proclaiming their inferiority. He declares that, man is the head of the woman and she must always submit to his will.... Whereas the Essenes proclaimed equality among the Brethren [the Essenes were the first people on earth to condemn and forbid the practice of slavery], Paul repeatedly declares that Christian slaves must be obedient to their Christian masters."

In one of the best books on early Christianity, Those Incredible Christians, Dr. Hugh Schonfield reports:

"For the Apostolic Church much that Paul taught was grievous error not at all in accord with the mind and message of the Messiah. The original Apostles could urge that the truth was known by them. But Paul had never companied with Jesus or heard what he said day after day [remember: Paul had never even met Jesus], and Paul's visions were the delusions of this own misguided mind....

"It was not only the teaching and activities of Paul which made him obnoxious to the Christian leaders: but their awareness that he set his revelations above their authority and claimed an intimacy with the mind of Jesus, greater than that of those who had companied with him on earth and had been chosen by him.... It was an abomination, especially as his ideas were so contrary to what they knew of Jesus, that he should pose as the embodiment of the Messiah's will.... Paul was seen as the demon-driven enemy of the Messiah.... For the legitimate Church, Paul was a dangerous and disruptive influence, bent on enlisting a large following among the Gentiles in order to provide himself with a numerical superiority with the support of which he could set at defiance the Elders at Jerusalem. Paul had been the enemy from the beginning, and because he failed in his former open hostility he had craftily insinuated himself into the fold to destroy it from within."

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