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Title: Ex-Jew reveals the evil within Jewry
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Published: Oct 29, 2010
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Post Date: 2010-10-29 11:48:00 by Itistoolate
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Ex-Jew reveals the evil within Jewry

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#1. To: Itistoolate (#0)

It's quite obvious to everyone here that you hate Jews.

Aren't Christians supposed to preach love and peace, not hatred of others?

As I mentioned on a different thread, I find it absolutely hypocritical that those who claim to follow the Jewish Messiah not only hate the Jewish Messiah's religion, but the very people who follow that religion.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-10-29   11:59:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: FormerLurker (#1)

All your observations are predicate on falsehoods. Christ wasn't a Jew. He was an Israelite. Jews hate Christ. The religion practiced by today's Jews isn't from the Old Testament. Christ warned us against the Jews.

Brian D  posted on  2010-10-29   12:07:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Brian D (#2)

Christ wasn't a Jew. He was an Israelite

Oh, so now the nation of Israel is the religion, not the nation, eh?

Do you know the difference between a religion and a country?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-10-29   12:10:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Brian D (#2)

Christ warned us against the Jews.

A) You have no idea what Jesus said because what he may or may not have said certainly wasn't recorded by those who killed him, ie. the Romans.

B) Jesus was a Jew. An Essene Jew, not a Pharisee, but a Jew nonetheless.

You see, Judaism is the religion of the Old Testament (Tanakh). The Protestant Church didn't write the Old Testament, the Hebrews did, and they called their religion Judaism.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-10-29   12:13:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: FormerLurker (#1)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-10-29   12:14:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: FormerLurker (#4)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-10-29   12:15:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: FormerLurker (#4)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-10-29   12:16:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Eric Stratton (#5)

And who wrote all those words you just posted?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-10-29   12:19:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: FormerLurker (#4)

Jesus was a Jew. An Essene Jew, not a Pharisee, but a Jew nonetheless

According ot the bible, Jesus was born jewish, but became an apostate and a heretic.

For Jesus apostasy and heresy, he was killed by the Romans, at the request of the pharisees.

Googolplex  posted on  2010-10-29   12:20:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: FormerLurker (#8)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-10-29   12:20:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Eric Stratton (#5)

Christians need to consider what's truthful!

I haven't found too many who are willing to do that.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-10-29   12:20:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: FormerLurker (#8)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-10-29   12:21:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Eric Stratton (#10)

You tell me?

Writers who lived at least a century after his death. Roman writers, under authority of the emperor.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-10-29   12:21:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: FormerLurker (#11)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-10-29   12:22:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: FormerLurker (#13)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-10-29   12:24:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: FormerLurker (#13)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-10-29   12:24:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Eric Stratton (#7)

As well FL, Christ spoke of spiritual things. Eph. 6:12 was part of that.

I think there's actual historical evidence, whether it be circumstantial or literal, that Jesus was an Essene whose teachings were far different than those formulated by the Roman Catholic Church and the "apostle" Paul.

If you're interested, here's some info on that...

ESSENE CHRISTIANITY VERSUS PAULIANITY


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-10-29   12:34:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Googolplex (#9)

Jesus was not a Jew. There were no "Jews" in that day. The evidence is that he was a Pharisee.

"If ever this vast country is brought under a single government, it will be one of the most extensive corruption, indifferent and incapable of a wholesome care over so wide a spread of surface. This will not be borne, and you will have to choose between reform and revolution. If I know the spirit of this country, the one or the other is inevitable." - Thomas Jefferson

Turtle  posted on  2010-10-29   12:47:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: FormerLurker (#3)

Do you know the difference between a religion and a country?

In a theocracy, such as the "Jewish State" of Israel pretending to be a democracy, there is no difference.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-10-29   12:47:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: FormerLurker (#4)

and they called their religion Judaism.

You realize of course that "Judaism" is a latinate English word.

I would be pleased to know both the ancient and contemporary words for that term in Hebrew.

I would like to direct this to the distinguished members of the panel: You lousy cork-soakers. You have violated my farging rights. Dis somanumbatching country was founded so that the liberties of common patriotic citizens like me could not be taken away by a bunch of fargin iceholes... like yourselves. Thank you. - Roman Moroni

randge  posted on  2010-10-29   13:15:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Turtle (#18) (Edited)

Jesus was not a Jew. There were no "Jews" in that day. The evidence is that he was a Pharisee.

Pharisees were Jews. But evidence indicates he was NOT a Pharisee, he was a Nazarene, or Essene Jew.

Look up the word Pharisee if you don't believe me, I'm not making this up.

Saying that he was not a Jew, he was a Pharisee, is like saying a particular person is not a Christian, he's a Protestant.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-10-29   13:35:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: randge (#20)

You realize of course that "Judaism" is a latinate English word.

Yes of course it's an English word, but it means the religion of the Old Testament.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-10-29   13:36:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: abraxas (#19)

In a theocracy, such as the "Jewish State" of Israel pretending to be a democracy, there is no difference.

Not all Jews are Israeli however, and not all Jews are Zionists. Many are against it in fact.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-10-29   13:38:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: FormerLurker (#1)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2010-10-29   13:39:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: FormerLurker (#22)

You realize of course that "Judaism" is a latinate English word.
Yes of course it's an English word, but it means the religion of the Old Testament.

Yes, but that's not what I asked you.

In the times of which we speak, there was no Old Testament either as it constituted today.

What are the contemporary and ancient words for "Judaism" in Hebrew?

I would like to direct this to the distinguished members of the panel: You lousy cork-soakers. You have violated my farging rights. Dis somanumbatching country was founded so that the liberties of common patriotic citizens like me could not be taken away by a bunch of fargin iceholes... like yourselves. Thank you. - Roman Moroni

randge  posted on  2010-10-29   13:43:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: ghostdogtxn (#24)

Our messiah accurately termed his "religion" the synagogue of satan.

So the God who gave Moses those 10 Commandments was Satan?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-10-29   13:49:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: randge (#25)

In the times of which we speak, there was no Old Testament either as it constituted today.

The Tanakh is what Christians call the Old Testament, the first 5 books of which are called the Torah.

What are the contemporary and ancient words for "Judaism" in Hebrew?

Well here's the exact answser...

From Origin of the Word "Judaism"

Question

Why is the religion called "Judaism" as opposed to "Jewism" since we are called Jews (compared to Hindus and Hinduism or Christians and Christianity)?

Answer

The words Jews and Judaism are English words derived from the Hebrew words, respectively of "Yehudim" and "Yahadut." Yehudim (Jews) practice Yahadut (Judaism), which refers to the body of Jewish religious thought, customs, symbols, rituals and laws.

In the early 1st millennium BCE, Judaism got its name from "Judah", the land of the Hebrews. We find the term “Judaism” used in the first century CE by Greek- speaking Jews. References include the Second Book of Maccabees 2:21 and 8:1. “Yahadut” or “dat Yahadut” is used infrequently in medieval commentaries, e.g. Ibn Ezra, but it is used extensively in modern Jewish history.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-10-29   13:59:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: FormerLurker (#27)

In the early 1st millennium BCE, Judaism got its name from "Judah", the land of the Hebrews. We find the term “Judaism” used in the first century CE by Greek- speaking Jews. References include the Second Book of Maccabees 2:21 and 8:1. “Yahadut” or “dat Yahadut” is used infrequently in medieval commentaries, e.g. Ibn Ezra, but it is used extensively in modern Jewish history.

Thank you for the reference.

23 Now as he left off speaking these words, there came a certain Jew in the sight of all to sacrifice to the idols upon the altar in the city of Modin, according to the king's commandment.

Well, that takes us back to the 2nd Century BC, I guess. That well postdates the time of the Hebrews who I don't believe you can document to have ever called themselves Jews or to have called their religion Judaism.

I would like to direct this to the distinguished members of the panel: You lousy cork-soakers. You have violated my farging rights. Dis somanumbatching country was founded so that the liberties of common patriotic citizens like me could not be taken away by a bunch of fargin iceholes... like yourselves. Thank you. - Roman Moroni

randge  posted on  2010-10-29   14:27:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: randge (#28)

That well postdates the time of the Hebrews who I don't believe you can document to have ever called themselves Jews or to have called their religion Judaism.

Uh, who do you suppose lived in Israel back then?

Were they Muslim in your opinion? Perhaps Jesus prayed to Allah?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-10-29   14:35:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: FormerLurker (#29)

No one that treats the subject seriously calls the Hebrews Jews. As you know, this word refers to the tribe of Judah who constitute but one of the Twelve Tribes. The term Jew is properly applied to the people of largely Hebrew extraction who returned to Palestine after the Captivity. Judaism refers to the religion that emerged from the time of the Captivity and which had incorporated a number of Babylonian elements.

I would like to direct this to the distinguished members of the panel: You lousy cork-soakers. You have violated my farging rights. Dis somanumbatching country was founded so that the liberties of common patriotic citizens like me could not be taken away by a bunch of fargin iceholes... like yourselves. Thank you. - Roman Moroni

randge  posted on  2010-10-29   14:44:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: FormerLurker (#26)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2010-10-29   15:04:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: FormerLurker (#1)

Aren't Christians supposed to preach love and peace, not hatred of others?

Exposing the cult of Judaism is not hate, it is proclaiming the truth. If you think exposing the truth of Judaism is equal to hate then you should feel welcome with those that practice Judaism today, they think the same thing.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2010-10-29   15:19:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: RickyJ (#32)

Very well put.

Itistoolate  posted on  2010-10-29   15:21:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: FormerLurker (#3)

Do you know the difference between a religion and a country?

Do you know that Israel is a religious state?

Without the cult of Judaism Israel wouldn't exist today.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2010-10-29   15:23:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: RickyJ (#32)

Hear, hear! The truth is not hate.

Brian D  posted on  2010-10-29   15:23:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Brian D (#2)

Great comment also.

Itistoolate  posted on  2010-10-29   15:31:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: randge (#30)

No one that treats the subject seriously calls the Hebrews Jews. As you know, this word refers to the tribe of Judah who constitute but one of the Twelve Tribes. The term Jew is properly applied to the people of largely Hebrew extraction who returned to Palestine after the Captivity. Judaism refers to the religion that emerged from the time of the Captivity and which had incorporated a number of Babylonian elements.

Well I'm sorry I'm not so picky in my definition. Anyone who follows the Torah and who follows the faith defined by the Tanakh is following Judaism in not just my own opinion, but that of most people.

If you wish to speak of the time 200 years after the birth of Jesus (as defined by the Romans), then yes, they picked up the Babylonian Talmud as well as the Palestinian Talmud.

You can't even think of a word which defines the religion of the Old Testament can you. Go ahead and tell me what it is if it's not Judaism.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-10-29   15:38:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: RickyJ (#34)

Without the cult of Judaism Israel wouldn't exist today.

So by inference, that means without Christianity there would be no Rome?

Zionism is not defined in the Old Testament, and those who practice Judaism are not necessarily Zionists.

Do you think all Christians look forward to a "rapture", and are trying to bring it about, just because SOME of them are?

There IS no rapture in the original religion, that's something some TV evangelists tacked on for their own benefit, sort of like how some Rabbis dreamed up the Talmud.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-10-29   15:41:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: ghostdogtxn (#31)

What makes you think the Jews worship God?

Apparently you have no clue as to what Judaism is about. Have you ever heard of the Old Testament? It was written by those of the Jewish faith, as THAT is their religion.

Thing is, most Christians can't conceive of a God that isn't in human form, so anything other than the concept of a man dying on a cross is satanic to them.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-10-29   15:45:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: RickyJ (#32)

Exposing the cult of Judaism is not hate, it is proclaiming the truth. If you think exposing the truth of Judaism is equal to hate then you should feel welcome with those that practice Judaism today, they think the same thing.

I think people who get caught up in words written by men as if they were written by the Creator of this Universe are not all there, especially when they apply those notions to breed hatred against those with similar beliefs, but use a different name for the same subset of books they each identify with.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-10-29   15:49:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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