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#62. To: abraxas (#59)
I've heard many Internet rumors which make that claim, but have not seen any definitive proof that it's true. I'm sure the fact the books are written in Hebrew (or Aramic) doesn't help clarify anything, and at this point it's clear that mainstream religions are false belief systems anyways, so anything is possible.
The remnant of the Philistines shall perish, saith the Lord God. Amos, i, 8. The day that cometh to spoil ALL the Philistines. Jeremiah, xlvii, 4. So then you admit that Judaism and Christianity (and Islam by inference) are false religions?
Research it. You can find accounts written by multiple Christian teachings, from Catholic to Methodist, detailing exactly what is stated in the Talmud. There was a great deal written about the topic at the turn at the Century and during WWI by from numerous sources. The Talmud became a topic of interest as Christians churches were burned by the thousands in Russia while Synagogues were increasing in numbers, also as the 2% Jewish population held 40% of all government jobs as communism was implemented. Where do you think that Rabbi in Israel gets his ideas that the goyim are just slaves for Jews and that they should have a long life, like a donkey, to do the heavy lifting for the Jewish people? Do you think the Rabbi just came up with a new teaching? It's all in the Talmud and to any person who has an iota of knowledge about the Talmud the Rabbi's comments aren't even surprising.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
You asked where the Biblical teachings were and I provided a few answers. I do not make that claim that the Abrahamic faiths are false religions because it is disrespectful to people who hold these beliefs as sacred. I think all relgions offer something of value for people and it is not for me to judge. However, I do note the hypocricy and cherry picking of Biblical verses or Koran quotes to justify despicable behavior. Personally, I think the Christian faith would be lovely if people opted to follow the Sermon on the Mount. Sadly, few do.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
actually, i do. i always encourage dialogue & am one of the most diplomatic peacemaking posters here, if i can say so myself :-) i dont know about kaballah, other than its some sort of jewish mysticism taught in public schools in los angeles. & i knew you were into it, which doesn't mean i was accusing you of being a zionist jew, The broader note - peoples religion here, or lack thereof doesn't really concern me. i understand youre offended when you constantly see 'jew bashing' posts at 4um. you remind that Christians should be loving. That's a good point. However- when you constantly couple that point with your 'Religion is superstitious garbage, Christianity is a controlling farce, the bible is fictional nonsense' rhetoric, your previously valid points will be immediately rejected, as you attack the personal faith of your target audience. not an effective tactic at all.
"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13 I bash those who bash others, and find that there is much hypocrisy going around. At this point I can just shake my head and see why this world will never be peaceful, as most would rather just love to hate and use whatever excuse they can find to focus and target that hate. My first words here on this thread were that I found it " absolutely hypocritical that those who claim to follow the Jewish Messiah not only hate the Jewish Messiah's religion, but the very people who follow that religion. " That people over time corrupted that religion and made it something it was not is besides the point, as not all people of that faith believe in the mainstream faith, and some even believe that Jesus is the Messiah, but in the form of a prophet. Many here hold the false belief that Judaism in general is about hating Christians. There WOULD be no Jesus Christ if it were not for the foundation of Judaism, since Judaism predicates the fact that Jesus is said to be the Son of the Father, and that Father is the God of the Old Testament. Folks can believe whatever they want to believe that they find in books or make up themselves, but the thing is, many then use those beliefs as a basis for their hatred, and actually launch wars and kill people over it. That is where the line is crossed, and where I no longer hold my tongue. The majority of the reason we are killing people in Iraq and Afghanistan isn't because Israel wants it done, but because "Christians" here in THIS country believe it HAS to be done. Must kill those nasty Mooselum sand niggers ya know.
I personally think I should just study Buddism and give up trying to help people who don't want help. What will happen will happen, no matter what.
but the people here who focus on the 'evil jews' are not by any means among the pro war side. that is why i thought your remark above about worshiping Hagee was odd. if the poster doesn't like zionist jews, they certainly dont like hagee, & they arent scared of muslims, etc. They have looked for the man behind the curtain, & found a 'jew scoundrel' behind many of the world's problems.
"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13 in closing i will just reiterate that i acknowledge & concede your point that broadbrushing all jews & constantly obsessing on them is not proper .
"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13 Jesus himself proclaimed the Pharisees to be "of their father, the devil" ... was Jesus using rhetoric and hyperbole ? [Today's Rabbis claim to be the result of an unbroken chain that can be traced back to these Pharisees.] Try this. Look to the Bible for the Promises God made to Abraham (or google it) where the notion of a chosen people occurred. If God makes a promise and doesn't keep it is he still God ? Or, is it possible that God made a promise and kept it but most aren't perceptive enough to see past the dogma or doctrine that like most propaganda has a way of obscuring the truth. (Which, by the way, God describes Himself as "The Truth"). If you research the many promises made to Abraham regarding his descendants THROUGH ISAAC, JACOB (AKA - ISRAEL) you'll find that those calling themselves Jews today cannot demonstrate having received EVEN ONE of the promises. God made numerous promises that have been fulfilled but not by those calling themselves Jews. I propose that the proof is in the pudding. It's also relevant to keep in mind several factors. There were 12 Tribes receiving these promises, not just the tribe of Judah. One promise was that the heirs of the promise would become many nations. Another was that they'd be so numerous you couldn't count them. (We've been counting every single Jew on earth for 100 plus years). They were promised to be a blessing to all nations on earth. What we call Jews today have been expelled from every country they have been allowed into for criminal acts of oppression. These are just a few things to look at. If you want to see those that have fulfilled the promises made to Abraham's descendants ... look at the International Quality of Life Index for the Top 12 Countries with the highest quality of life.
"Politics and Religion are the building blocks of slavery and oppression. Greed is the mortar that bonds them" and bankers are the masons with trowels in hand !
All jews in good standing are political victim cultists. Victim cultism is the philosophical infrastructure of zionism, along with bible myths.
Buddhism is a wonderful study. I highly recommend it. Compassion is central, which includes helping even those who don't want help. : ) However, Buddhism will help you offer a greater depth into what it means to "help" which may be contrary to prior considerations. This comes through the practice of mindfulness. I am especially fond of the koans becasue they are mental puzzles to ponder on for an extended period of time. The Dhammapada begins: We are what we think. All that we are arises with our thoughts. With our thoughts we make the world. PS Buddhism is more of a philosophy and way of life than a religion.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
Judaism is founded on the Talmud. Ask any Jew, they will tell you the Talmud is their most holy book. So you see, you don't have a clue what you are talking about, but that doesn't stop you does it? Seen any UFOs lately? LOL!
God is always good!
So what is the Torah Ricky? Is it the satanic bible? Guess what. The Torah is the 1st five books of the Old Testament. You see, the Old Testament is a Jew thing, and since Jesus was the Messiah of the religion of the Old Testament, well, guess where that leaves you and what you believe.
Do you think Jesus was a Southern Baptist?
Got any YouTube videos of Jesus walking on water? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
One last thing Ricky. When the SHTF, and there ARE lights in the sky and you don't know what they are, just cling to your Bible and ask Jesus for help. I'm sure that'll do you a bunch of good.
MODERN Zionist Jews and those who are not that bright might say the Talmud is the most Holy Book. Any TRUE religious Jew would say the TORAH is THE HOLIEST of BOOKS, since it is the word of Moses, who is the prophet who brought the people out of Egypt and received the 10 Commandments. Or, at least that's how the story goes. Embedded within the Hebrew of the Torah are entire bodies of knowledge using numerical codes, and those codes open the doors to the ORIGINAL TORAH, which was hidden from those who would misuse the knowledge contained therein.
The Roman Catholic Church defined Christianity. They wrote the New Testament. However, there is historical fact which disputes what they wrote. What do you think you know of Paul? Short story is, he had Jesus' followers rounded up and executed. Claiming to be an apostle, he wrote his version of the events, or someone writing under his name did. Those same authors or others, under supervision and authority of Rome, authored the OTHER Gospels as well.
LOL!! The infamous "when TSHTF" scenario is the always refereed to and eagerly looked for doomsday by the hysterics of both sides of the ideological aisle. You are right on only one thing, though. At the end of the age Christ will preserve His remnant. Guaranteed. Regardless of your 'TSHTF' bogyman.
Just keep believing that.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
The Talmud ("instruction, learning", from a root "teach, study") is a central text of mainstream Judaism, in the form of a record of rabbinic discussions pertaining to Jewish law, ethics, philosophy, customs and history.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
In order for there to be true peace, which I define as a lack of a threat and not as a mere absence of conflict, then people need to have their right to be left alone honored and respected. That is what is keeping peace from being achieved. The abrahamic "faiths" do not respect or honor that right to be left alone. They're always butting in where they are not welcome. Their being butt-in-skis is a doctrinal imperative. This is why I have become a Satanist, or rather I always was one and didn't know it until recently. Satanism is (ideally) a religion of individualism. We go our own way. But as a grouping even that has its problems. Too many want to be a big fish in a very small pond. .
However, the Talmud most definitely does teach that.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#63. To: abraxas (#61)
Let us go down after the Philistines by night and spoil them until the mornigh light, and let us not leave a man of them. Samuel, xiv, 36.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#64. To: FormerLurker (#62)
I've heard many Internet rumors which make that claim, but have not seen any definitive proof that it's true.
#65. To: FormerLurker (#63)
So then you admit that Judaism and Christianity (and Islam by inference) are false religions?
#66. To: FormerLurker (#50)
you should try to understand things
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#67. To: Artisan (#66)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#68. To: abraxas (#65)
Personally, I think the Christian faith would be lovely if people opted to follow the Sermon on the Mount. Sadly, few do.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#69. To: FormerLurker (#67)
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#70. To: FormerLurker (#67)
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#71. To: FormerLurker (#67)
(Edited)
Many here hold the false belief that Judaism in general is about hating Christians. There WOULD be no Jesus Christ if it were not for the foundation of Judaism, since Judaism predicates the fact that Jesus is said to be the Son of the Father, and that Father is the God of the Old Testament.
#72. To: FormerLurker (#23)
and not all Jews are Zionists
#73. To: FormerLurker (#68)
(Edited)
I personally think I should just study Buddhism and give up trying to help people who don't want help.
#74. To: FormerLurker (#17)
#75. To: FormerLurker (#44)
#76. To: FormerLurker (#4)
(Edited)
You see, Judaism is the religion of the Old Testament
#77. To: RickyJ (#76)
So you see, you don't have a clue what you are talking about, but that doesn't stop you does it? Seen any UFOs lately? LOL!
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#78. To: RickyJ (#76)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#79. To: RickyJ (#76)
Seen any UFOs lately? LOL!
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#80. To: RickyJ (#76)
(Edited)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#81. To: RickyJ (#76)
Judaism is founded on the Talmud. Ask any Jew, they will tell you the Talmud is their most holy book.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#82. To: Eric Stratton (#74)
The Roman Catholic Church's teachings are so far off what those of Christ are and the reality of the situation that it's folly for me to even consider that premise.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#83. To: FormerLurker (#80)
#84. To: Brian D (#83)
You are right on only one thing, though. At the end of the age Christ will preserve His remnant. Guaranteed. Regardless of your 'TSHTF' bogyman.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#85. To: FormerLurker (#82)
#86. To: FormerLurker (#81)
Any TRUE religious Jew would say the TORAH is THE HOLIEST of BOOKS, since it is the word of Moses, who is the prophet who brought the people out of Egypt and received the 10 Commandments.
#87. To: FormerLurker, abraxas, artisan, all (#67)
(Edited)
At this point I can just shake my head and see why this world will never be peaceful, as most would rather just love to hate and use whatever excuse they can find to focus and target that hate.
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#88. To: randge (#25)
I don't know, but Hebrew is related to Arabic for Whadi, or gully or drainage probably relating to the region of southern Yemen where the tribe appears to have originated. According to Arabic tradition, this tribe was the one to domesticate the camel, 2000 bc or so.
in Hebrew?
"Satan / Cheney in "08" 
#89. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#42)
Thanks for clearing that up. I was wondering.
That's old school "liberal" Christianity man! Today's "real" Christians know that Jesus was a God of War and that Christians have a duty to kill Muslim's and wipe them off of the face of the Earth while making the world safe for Democracy! Jesus was a Republican.
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
#90. To: Eric Stratton (#85)
Who do you think wiped out the Essenes? BTW, what makes you think Paul was a "believer"? From ESSENE CHRISTIANITY VERSUS PAULIANITY In The Story of Christian Origins, Martin Larson writes: "Paul declares that... the Elect may even eat meat sacrificed to idols.... Whereas Jesus honored women and found in them His most devoted followers, Paul never tires of proclaiming their inferiority. He declares that, man is the head of the woman and she must always submit to his will.... Whereas the Essenes proclaimed equality among the Brethren [the Essenes were the first people on earth to condemn and forbid the practice of slavery], Paul repeatedly declares that Christian slaves must be obedient to their Christian masters." In one of the best books on early Christianity, Those Incredible Christians, Dr. Hugh Schonfield reports: "For the Apostolic Church much that Paul taught was grievous error not at all in accord with the mind and message of the Messiah. The original Apostles could urge that the truth was known by them. But Paul had never companied with Jesus or heard what he said day after day [remember: Paul had never even met Jesus], and Paul's visions were the delusions of this own misguided mind.... "It was not only the teaching and activities of Paul which made him obnoxious to the Christian leaders: but their awareness that he set his revelations above their authority and claimed an intimacy with the mind of Jesus, greater than that of those who had companied with him on earth and had been chosen by him.... It was an abomination, especially as his ideas were so contrary to what they knew of Jesus, that he should pose as the embodiment of the Messiah's will.... Paul was seen as the demon-driven enemy of the Messiah.... For the legitimate Church, Paul was a dangerous and disruptive influence, bent on enlisting a large following among the Gentiles in order to provide himself with a numerical superiority with the support of which he could set at defiance the Elders at Jerusalem. Paul had been the enemy from the beginning, and because he failed in his former open hostility he had craftily insinuated himself into the fold to destroy it from within." Paul did round up christians and kill them, before becoming a believer himself. Or have you got some other relatively concrete evidence to the contrary.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#91. To: abraxas (#86)
A Jew who wishes to claim he is religious might simply listen to a rabbi wail about the Talmud. Spiritual Jews know that the Torah is the path to true awareness of God, and Kabbalah is the map for that path. Remember, the Talmud is just the words of rabbis from 1800 years ago or so, with more being added over time. The words of rabbis certainly don't carry more weight than the proclaimed words of the Prophets.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#92. To: FormerLurker (#90)
Schonfield was a Jew who termed himself a "Nazarene", meaning that he believed, as a Jew, that the Messiah, as predicted in Judaism's Hebrew Bible, had come in the person of Jesus. Schonfield wrote The Passover Plot, a book whose thesis is that the Crucifixion was part of a larger, conscious attempt by Jesus to fulfill the Messianic expectations rampant in his time, and that the plan went unexpectedly wrong. Schonfield not only read between the lines, but between the lines was the only place he did read. He did not even know the lines were there. His description of Christ and the New Testament is as old as Jewish opposition to the faith in Jesus as the Messiah and God's Son. It goes back as far as the first proclamation of the hope of Israel to the Greek world. He claims thinks that Jesus did not rise from the dead, but that the grief-stricken followers only imagined that they had seen and spoken with someone whom they later assumed to be the Master. His idea was to make the followers of Jesus merely another sect within the Jewish fold, where sectarianism was not looked upon with disfavor at all. Those who wished to recognize Jesus as the Messiah could become proselytes by being circumcised and promising allegiance to the Torah. The fact is that Paul labored constantly and tirelessly to avoid a division between Jewish and non-Jewish believers. He declared that the gospel he proclaimed was "the power of God unto salvation," to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. He affirmed that in Christ Jesus there is neither Jew nor Greek, but all are one in Christ. What heretics like Schonfield brand as fanaticism results because they will not accept Jesus as the true Messiah. His bias against the resurrection of Christ shapes his thinking. It is he who must make unjustifiable deductions to sustain a theory that would be laughed out of court, if it were not for its serious consequences in the hearts and lives of carnal and uninformed readers. The day will come, and it is not too far distant, when books by Schonfield will not be remembered or recognized. One day you will search for it in vain in the bookstores of our land. It will go out of print and disappear with its author, leaving no permanent mark upon the earth. The "shocker" of today will shock no one tomorrow. But the writings of the one-time Jewish rabbinical student who met Jesus on the Damascus road will live on. His poignant statement made after this momentous event, "He which persecuted us...now preacheth the faith which once he destroyed" (Galatians 1:23) will give courage to the hearts of millions yet to come, if Jesus does not return first. W. Carl Ketcherside
#93. To: FormerLurker (#91)
Actually, for Talmudic Jews, the Talmud is more important than the Torah. Most of the Israeli settlers are Talmudic Jews. All Rabbis are schooled in Talmud, so it does carry a lot of weight because the belief is that one cannot understand the Torah without the Talmud teachings. The Kabbalah has a mixed acceptance within the Jewish Faith. This is because there was a Kabbalist who was deemed to be the long awaited Messiah. However, he was captured by the Sultan and offered his life or conversion to Muslim Islam. He and five of his followers converted and many Jewish folks blamed Kabbalah. Shortly after this the Kabbalah was, once again, only taught to the select few. Only recently has it come to be "Kabbalah for all" and even that isn't the entire teaching. Many Rabbis aren't happy about this new Kabbalah resurgence.
The words of rabbis certainly don't carry more weight than the proclaimed words of the Prophets.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
#94. To: FormerLurker (#17)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
#95. To: Eric Stratton (#94) (Edited)
The New Testament is the teachings of Paul, not Jesus. You'd have to dig up Essene teachings in order to find out what Jesus would have taught. Basically, their teachings promote non-violence, prohibit the consumption of animal flesh, and involve spiritual work and meditation. Google should help you find what you're looking for.
So answer me, where do those lines break?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#96. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#92)
If you look, there is an abundance of evidence that the New Testament was not written by the original apostles, and/or rewritten using some of the original documents as a guide. Have you ever heard of the Council of Nicea? It occured in 325 AD, quite some time after Jesus died. That is where the NT texts were actually written. As far as Paul, his teachings differ from what Jesus would have taught, and the rest of the NT follow HIS teachings not that of the historical Jesus, since Jesus would have taught Nazarene doctrine, which were in many ways opposite that taught by Paul who had never even met Jesus.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#97. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#92)
Here's something you might want to check out...
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#98. To: FormerLurker (#95)
You don't have a clue. Lie after lie is all you know because you follow your father the devil. That's why you defend the devil worshiping Jews.
The New Testament is the teachings of Paul, not Jesus.
God is always good!
#99. To: RickyJ (#98)
If you want to know who's lying here Ricky, just follow the link to how the New Testament came about. I'm sure it's not the story your pastor will give you, if he even talks about it all. The article I linked is based upon mountains of historical evidence, indisputable evidence in fact. Did you know that the earliest known form of the New Testament, the Sinai Bible, is drastically different from later editions? You base your life on lies, then have the audacity to call someone who is trying to steer people away from pure hatred a liar. If anything, it is your own belief system that is of the devil.
You don't have a clue. Lie after lie is all you know because you follow your father the devil. That's why you defend the devil worshiping Jews.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#100. To: RickyJ (#98)
And oh yeah, supposedly your man god called that Jewish god his father.
That's why you defend the devil worshiping Jews.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#101. To: RickyJ (#98) (Edited)
What it comes down to is that most religions on earth have been responsible for the suffering and misery that have plagued Mankind since the dawn of civilization. It is has been a tool for the elite to control the masses of people over the eons of time, and serves its purpose to this day quite well. No proof of anything is needed, just a guy with a pedestal to preach from and a stack of paper and ink in his hands written by authors who were told to create what they created by the king, emperor, or pope. It most certainly wasn't "God" who influenced them. Hell, some have even made stuff up themselves out of thin air to suit whatever purpose matched their own personal agendas.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
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