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Title: Work Till 70? Yes, if Boehner and Republicans Have Their Way
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Published: Oct 30, 2010
Author: http://blog.aflcio.org/2010/10/26/work-t
Post Date: 2010-10-30 09:40:47 by tom007
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Comments: 61

Work Till 70? Yes, if Boehner and Republicans Have Their Way

by Mike Hall, Oct 26, 2010 Bookmark and Share 426Share

If Republicans take over Congress, House Republican Minority Leader John Boehner says he will move to raise the Social Security retirement age to 70. That might not seem to be a big deal to someone who has spent his life in cushy offices with fancy perks, luxury cars, good health care and not much heavy lifting.

But for millions of seniors in physically demanding jobs, it’s a big, big deal. A new TV ad from Protecting America’s Retirees, an independent project of the Alliance for Retired Americans, takes a light-hearted look at the very serious subject of forcing seniors to stay on the job until age 70.

The ad will air in five closely contested House races in Arizona, Iowa, Ohio and Pennsylvania and in the Pennsylvania Senate race between Rep. Joe Sestak (D), who has vowed to strengthen Social Security, and Rep. Pat Toomey, who wants to raise the retirement age and privatize Social Security.

The ad reaches out to seniors who may be voting for Republicans because they want change.

You’re hoping things will change?

Hope you’re also planning to stay on the job.

Because at least one change means seniors will have to work. And work. And keep right on working.

Yes—that’s right. The Republican leadership wants to raise your retirement age to 70.

The ad shows, among others, a firefighter, construction worker, delivery person and lifeguard struggling on the job in their later years.

Alliance Executive Director Edward F. Coyle asks:

Can you imagine working until 70? In physically demanding jobs like manufacturing, construction, and the service sector, I just don’t see how you can.

In September, The New York Times took an in-depth look at the toll physically demanding jobs take on older workers. Click here.

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Tags: Alliance for Retired Americans, Joe Sestak, John Boehner, labor, Labor 2010, Pat Toomey, Protecting America’s Retirees, Social Security, union, union blogs, unions, Working Families Vote

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#3. To: tom007 (#0)

Sorry, Tom, but this ain't France.

When the longevity of Americans has increased by at least 10 years since the retirement age was established, some adjustment has to be made.

Essentially, you need to return to a system like the original SS where at least half the citizens die before collecting SS. SS was to avert abject elderly poverty. It was never meant to be a retirement plan for the masses. If that's what you want, invest wisely.

TooConservative  posted on  2010-10-30   10:26:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Sorry, Tom, but this ain't France.

No the is apathetic and extremely conditioned Americans roll over for the governement on a daily basis. Frenchies have some nads to stand up for what they have been promised and what they have paid into. Not here.

You will be promoting people working into their 90's and making lame justifications for this while ignoring the government stealing every dime over what is paid out in the "tust fund" for wars and governement largess that the lot of us don't want or need. Any person in the US who is 40 or younger with an iota of a brain cell knows there will be no SS for them and those who don't know this are sheep. Yet, you go on and promote this BS raising the age again and again and again and you will be expecting the younger workers to support your SS when it comes time to collect. Oh, but they should work longer than you and for much less.

This nation is impotent compared to the Frenchies.

abraxas  posted on  2010-10-31   13:39:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

You will be promoting people working into their 90's and making lame justifications for this while ignoring the government stealing every dime over what is paid out in the "tust fund" for wars and governement largess that the lot of us don't want or need. Any person in the US who is 40 or younger with an iota of a brain cell knows there will be no SS for them and those who don't know this are sheep. Yet, you go on and promote this BS raising the age again and again and again and you will be expecting the younger workers to support your SS when it comes time to collect. Oh, but they should work longer than you and for much less.

I advocate nothing of the sort.

As for the total innocence of the young people, it is true that they didn't vote for their forbears' debt but they did benefit from it. And it is obvious they aren't much smarter in the wake of electing Obongo, no?

Then you have the unionized cops and firefighters, taking pensions after twenty years and getting other jobs after "retiring" so they can get SS as well as a fat union pension. And you have people like railroaders who like to start little side businesses while they're working so they can get both railroad retirement pension and SS.

I oppose and reject all of it. Bunch of greedy bastards.

TooConservative  posted on  2010-10-31   16:35:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

but they did benefit from

Oh please, do tell how.......how will all future generations benefit from stealing all the "trust fund" monies to waste on today's balony spending?

The pensions and the rest are beyond the scope of the discussion, TC. We are talking about SS and Medicare which will go broke even sooner.

My point in the discussion wasn't today's generation of retirees who will actually see some of what they put into it........my point is the 40 and younger who won't see the benefit and who are expected to keep on paying until they are in their 70's anyway.

Boner had no problem skimming a trillion off the excess to war in Iraq and on terror.....that doesn't help any future generations of Americans one iota, in fact they will be less free and have less liberty and have no stinking retirement from all the SS extortion they have had to pay for decades.

abraxas  posted on  2010-10-31   17:19:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Boner had no problem skimming a trillion off the excess to war in Iraq and on terror...

As if these wars have no effect on our economy, but nobody can mention it in polite company - the social brainwashing has been very effective.

tom007  posted on  2010-10-31   17:26:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Sheesh, for 15 out out the past 24 months the government has borrowed just to pay out SS benefits promised current retirees. Truth be told, Boner and the rest of the idiots in DC have benrupted the "trust fund" and continue to get away with no accountability for the sorry shape it's in today.

abraxas  posted on  2010-10-31   17:49:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#33. To: abraxas (#32)

and continue to get away with no accountability for the sorry shape it's in today.

Yes the no accountable position is just breath taking considering what the Dems have done, but seems to me that the, easily, the bigger culprit are the Repubs.

tom007  posted on  2010-10-31 18:43:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

And far as I can tell, the wars have attracted very little debate during this election cycle.

Amazing - and depressing.

tom007  posted on  2010-10-31 18:44:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Sheesh, for 15 out out the past 24 months the government has borrowed just to pay out SS benefits promised current retirees. Truth be told, Boner and the rest of the idiots in DC have benrupted the "trust fund" and continue to get away with no accountability for the sorry shape it's in today.

You act as though this situation has been unknown until recently.

In the later part of the Reagan years, maybe 1987, they insisted that SS was in trouble and that they needed to raise taxes to save it. You may recall that Senator Moynihan was kind of the leader. He held all these meetings and the Congress finally became a little more familiar with computers because they used spreadsheets (the old Microsoft Multiplan, not Lotus 1-2-3). So they raised the SS taxes, assuring us that SS would be safe up through 2050. Then they started just borrowing all the huge piles of money that came pouring in and spending it like general funds, "loaning" themselves the SS fund to spend however they wanted. It was the secret cookie jar that both parties would plunder. And many of the pols who stole the SS fund and spent it wildly are now safely dead or retired though some of these idiots are still in Congress.

Moynihan was betrayed because his objective was to actually save SS, not loot it. So he introduced legislation to repeal the SS tax increases, saying he wasn't going to let them steal it and spend it.

He failed. And this has been the pattern since.

Even Ross Perot, with his bar charts and big ears and wailing over some giant sucking sound, made it pretty clear that this day would come. 2050, 2030, 2017, the date of bankruptcy has steadily advanced.

It's both parties but the Dims have been worse. And now they spent all the money and have to pay off the IOUs that they wrote to the SS trust fund. That's all it is, just an accounting journal of IOUs at a dusty obscure SS office in rural Virginia. I've seen video of the ledger they keep. It's like evidence in the shabbiest theft in human history.

Yeah, these are our leaders. Makes you feel real good about voting.

TooConservative  posted on  2010-10-31 20:20:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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