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Title: (vid) The Temple of Set, and the evil they do. Here's the proof, straight from the source!
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Published: Nov 3, 2010
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Post Date: 2010-11-03 11:40:36 by PSUSA
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#1. To: All (#0)

Aren't they scary???

PSUSA  posted on  2010-11-03   11:41:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: PSUSA (#1)

Aren't they scary???

Well I guess it all depends if you know what they're all about or not...

Satanic subversion of the U.S. Military

The Pedophocracy, Part III: Uncle Sam Wants Your Children

Michael Aquino

MK ULTRA AND MIND CONTROL IN THE WHITE HOUSE

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-11-03   12:33:35 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: FormerLurker (#4)

It would be unwise to condemn as irrational the practice of those savages who tear the heart and liver from an adversary, and devour them while yet warm. In any case it was the theory of {94} the ancient Magicians, that any living being is a storehouse of energy varying in quantity according to the size and health of the animal, and in quality according to its mental and moral character. At the death of the animal this energy is liberated suddenly.

The animal should therefore be killed within the Circle, or the Triangle, as the case may be, so that its energy cannot escape. An animal should be selected whose nature accords with that of the ceremony — thus, by sacrificing a female lamb one would not obtain any appreciate quantity of the fierce energy useful to a Magician who was invoking Mars. In such a case a ram would be more suitable. And this ram should be virgin — the whole potential of its original total energy should not have been diminished in any way. For the highest spiritual working one must accordingly choose that victim which contains the greatest and purest force. A male child of perfect innocence and high intelligence is the most satisfactory and suitable victim. {95} For evocations it would be more convenient to place the blood of the victim in the Triangle — the idea being that the spirit might obtain from the blood this subtle but physical substance which was the quintessence of its life in such a manner as to enable it to take on a visible and tangible shape.

“Magick in Theory and Practice” by Aleister Crowley

raumfahrer.wordpress.com/manson/crowley-on-sacrifice/

randge  posted on  2010-11-03   14:18:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: randge, all (#6)

He never practiced child sacrifice.

Do you understand what "will" means, when he says "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law"? Does that mean that you can do whatever you want to do? No, it doesn't mean that.

Do you know, without looking it up, what evocation and invocation are?

If you want to know what he is writing about, then try going to the source. I told you that Crowley was hard to understand. You insist on reading at the surface level when these things are never written to be understood at the surface level.

oto-usa.org/faq.html#q_thelema

Did Crowley really sacrifice children?
No. Crowley never performed or advocated human sacrifice. His much-quoted allusion to frequent "child-sacrifice" (Magick In Theory & Practice, Chapter XII) was a metaphor for a specific practice of sexual magick that did not involve harm to any individual, but diverted the energies of sexuality from physical reproduction to other purposes. The 'child' or 'Bud-Will' that is sacrificed in such a practice is a particular manifestation of the magician's Will, and not a physical, human child. Human sacrifice in any form would be incompatible with the principles of Thelema, as a violation of the right of every individual to live as he or she wills.

PSUSA  posted on  2010-11-03   14:55:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: PSUSA (#10) (Edited)

He never practiced child sacrifice.

His quote is quite clear, especially when combined with the preceeding words on how he viewed the tearing out of hearts and livers...

For evocations it would be more convenient to place the blood of the victim in the Triangle — the idea being that the spirit might obtain from the blood this subtle but physical substance which was the quintessence of its life in such a manner as to enable it to take on a visible and tangible shape.

In this case, the word "evocation" relates to "bringing forth" a physical manifestation of the desired entity.

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-11-03   15:35:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: FormerLurker (#13)

His quote is quite clear, especially when combined with the preceeding words on how he viewed the tearing out of hearts and livers...

Did he leave the eyeballs and lungs alone then? Or did he grill them and eat them with fava beans and a nice chianti?

Again, you cannot read it at the surface level, because the topics are not at the surface level.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-11-03   15:44:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: PSUSA (#16)

Who knows how he killed his victims. Perhaps you should look over that link I provided which tells of those who DID kill their victims and how they did it.

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-11-03   15:46:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: FormerLurker (#18)

Perhaps you should look over that link I provided which tells of those who DID kill their victims and how they did it.

Did you first watch the video? (lol)

OK then. Let's start from the top, shall we?

**Contrary to the opinions of police depts in the USA, the UK and Belgium, as examples, human sacrifice in a satanic ritual is no myth! Neither is Satanic Ritual Abuse!**

Well then by golly, he said it so it must be true! And the worlds pigstys are all in on it! IT'S A CONSPIRACY!!!!

**Brian's murder bears all the signs of a satanic sacrifice!

Dismembered, mutilated and burnt!

New hunt opens for 'grotesque' child killer Witchcraft not ruled out in killing of boy 30 years ago 05 September 2003

POLICE have not ruled out witchcraft or paedophilia as motives for Northern Ireland's most gruesome child murder, it emerged today.**

Sure sounds definite to me! It's a satanic crime! The proof is right there! he said so!

**Mutilation, dismemberment and burning - all the signs of a satanic sacrifice!**

WOW! He's right! Murderers NEVER mutilate, dismember and burn bodies! Only Satanists do that!

**Irish establishment press mouth-piece -Jim Cussack admits to the reality of Human Sacrifice!i**

An internal link and not worth the bandwidth I expended to see it.

**http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1899609.stm -- I was forced to kill my baby!**

African niggershines, not satanic.

**iafrica.com | news | sa news Muti killers 'drank blood from skull'**

Dead link. Again it happened in Apefreaka. Nothing they ever do surprises me. They even murder albino apefreakins for their spells.

Can you see a trend here? I sure can.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-11-03   15:58:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: PSUSA (#19)

SATANIC MURDER SHOCKS ARGENTINA

BUENOS AIRES (CWNews.com) - The brutal murder of a 50-year-old father at the hand of his two young daughters as part of a satanic rite has shocked Argentine society and raised concern about the proliferation of satanic and other cults in Buenos Aires.

The mutilated body of Juan Carlos Vazquez was found on Monday surrounded by his two daughters, Silvina, 21 and Gabriela 29, who stabbed their father 100 times and ate part of his face.

Yesterday, the police revealed the first details of the strange crime, announcing that the three of them belonged to a cult known as the "Alchemy Center for Transmutation." According to the police, apparently the father and daughters engaged in a ritual that ended with the murder of Juan Carlos Vazquez.

Juan Carlos' body was found not only with 100 knife wounds, but also marked with cuts forming a strange figure.

The killing took place in the living room, after the furniture was moved to one side. In the place were found cups with strange liquids and a book of "alchemy rites." When the police entered the home, the two daughters were screaming in a state of shock, one invoking Satan, the other one saying that Satan had finally left her father's body.

"We can't know yet what happened exactly, because both women are temporarily under tranquilizers at a psychiatric institution," a police source revealed to the Clarin newspaper.

According to Jose Maria Baamonde, a psychologist from Fundacion Spes, a Catholic institution dedicated to studying the growing number of sects and cults, the cult to which the Vazquez' belonged "is the type of organization that is becoming tremendously popular by combining some elements of Gnosticism and strange formulas and rites which they claim have been inherited from the ancient Alchemists."

Baamonde explained that, despite the sect's self-portrayal as an institution devoted to self-knowledge and self-discipline, "some of their rites explicitly invoke the presence and power of the Devil."

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-11-03   16:27:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: FormerLurker (#21)

"We can't know yet what happened exactly, because both women are temporarily under tranquilizers at a psychiatric institution," a police source revealed to the Clarin newspaper.

Did you miss that?

THEY WERE FUCKING NUTS! Lunatics! LMAO!

But because they mentioned Satan, you latched onto that while ignoring the rest.

So, tell me, did you watch the video? I bet not... ;)

According to Jose Maria Baamonde, a psychologist from Fundacion Spes, a Catholic institution dedicated to studying the growing number of sects and cults

A truly unbiased source if ever there was one...

Perhaps they have a catholic institution to study pedophile clergy too? Perhaps there is one that studies the financial irregularities of mother theresa and her order? I rather doubt it.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-11-03   16:57:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: PSUSA (#24)

THEY WERE FUCKING NUTS! Lunatics! LMAO!

Most people would consider what they did to be "fucking nuts" as well. You apparently missed the part of the story where they were dabbling in black magic and "invoking satan".

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-11-03   17:39:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: FormerLurker (#30) (Edited)

dabbling in black magic and "invoking satan".

So it's claimed.

One cannot be a "dabbler" and "invoke" Satan. Not that I ever tried to do that. I'm still a newbie that has done nothing yet. But I do know that it takes concentration and knowledge to do anything related to the occult. Undisciplined fucktards like these do not have that dedication. It's like a punk kid going into a dojo and telling him that he wants to learn how to beat up a bully that's bothering him. He will only be shown the door. To try and teach him is a waste of time.

** You associate with the Temple of Set, whose founder IS a satanist and a pedophile. **

I'm not a member. I simply agree with the videos message. Perhaps you could watch it and hear the message for yourself. Or not. Probably not.

You call him a satanist. You really have no idea what you are talking about. There are for all intents and purposes, an infinite variety of satanists. I bet most of them don't even believe in a real being called by most people "Satan".

You call him a pedophile. Perhaps he got away with it huh? All his satanist buddies in the FBI intentionally dropped the ball, right? And the press, we all know what a hotbed of satanists the press is. A coven in every bullpen, huh? A warlock in every corner office, right? Right.

** Where have I said that Christians are innocent of vile acts? I'm not a Christian (nor Jewish or Muslim), so don't try to use that as a weapon against me. **

I'm not using any "weapons" against you. I'm simply stating facts. This is the argument that xtians use. If you're not a xtian, then it doesn't apply to you.

**BTW, it's quite obvious that you hate Christians, since you use the "Xtian" spelling in order to avoid even typing the word Christ. **

Fuck Christ. Is that better?

** A satanist is just a person who is anti-christian, deciding to do things which can be seen as sacriligeous in order to "act out" their hatred. **

Some are. True enough.

However, in my case it is not really an action against xtianity. Then again, in a way it is.

I used to be one. I know it from the inside, and that is an advantage I have over someone that was not raised that way. On the other hand, it was a fucking waste of decades, and that does bring up the hatred, no doubt about it.

Right now I have more in common with my own "brand" of satanism than any other "religion". It is a religion that is based on total independence from what other people want from me. I answer to no one for what I believe. Not anymore.

But I dont mind talking about it.

,

PSUSA  posted on  2010-11-03   18:19:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: PSUSA (#34)

You call him a satanist. You really have no idea what you are talking about. There are for all intents and purposes, an infinite variety of satanists. I bet most of them don't even believe in a real being called by most people "Satan".

Do you even know what Set is? It's the Egyptian god who is the embodiment of evil, similar in many respects to what the Christians view as satan or the devil.

As far as Aquino, have you ever really looked up info on this guy? He was once a member of the Church of Satan as well.

You call him a pedophile. Perhaps he got away with it huh? All his satanist buddies in the FBI intentionally dropped the ball, right? And the press, we all know what a hotbed of satanists the press is. A coven in every bullpen, huh? A warlock in every corner office, right? Right.

Well here's the story, you decide...

From The Pedophocracy, Part III: Uncle Sam Wants Your Children

August 2001

"It should come as no surprise, then, that long- time CIA and ‘intelligence complex’ operatives turn up on the FMSF Advisory Board. Perhaps the most public member has been Dr. Louis Jolyon ‘Jolly’ West, a legendary figure in CIA mind control circles operating out of UCLA. Another is Dr. Martin Orne, an authority on torture who currently works at the University of Pennsylvania’s Experimental Psychiatry Lab … Still another false memory luminary is Margaret Singer, professor emeritus at the University of California-Berkeley."

Toward Freedom, May 1998

One of the names raised at the Bonacci trial was that of Michael Aquino. Aquino is the ‘High Priest’ and chief executive of the Temple of Set, an overtly satanic cult that split off from the Church of Satan in 1975. Besides tending to those duties, Aquino also has occupied his time serving as (according to an official biography once circulated by the Temple) a “Lieutenant Colonel, Military Intelligence, U.S. Army.”

Aquino was accused in court by the mother of a victim as being a key player in a nationwide pedophile ring. Paul Bonacci himself has also positively identified Aquino as an associate of King, known to the children only as 'the Colonel.' King's personal photographer has identified Aquino as the man to whom he saw King hand over a suitcase full of cash and bonds.

The photographer, Rusty Nelson, also has said that King told him that Aquino was part of the Contra guns and cocaine trafficking operation run by George Bush and another notorious Lt. Col., Oliver North. Aquino has also been linked to Offutt Air Force Base, a Strategic Air Command post near Omaha that was implicated in the investigation by the Franklin Committee. He was also claimed to have ordered the abduction of a Des Moines, Iowa paperboy.

This was certainly not the first time that Aquino had been implicated as a key figure in large scale pedophile/child pornography rings. In July of 1988, not long before the King and Spence cases broke, the San Jose Mercury News ran a lengthy exposé on the Presidio Child Development Center run by the U.S. Army in San Francisco.

Allegations of abuse being perpetrated at the center first emerged in November of 1986. Alarmed by accusations made by her child, a parent had sought a medical examination which confirmed that the three- year-old boy had in fact been anally raped. The boy identified his rapist as 'Mr. Gary,' a teacher at the center named Gary Hambright.

Even with the conclusive medical evidence, “it took the Army almost a month to notify the parents of other children who had been in 'Mr. Gary's' class that the incident had taken place.” Within a year, at least sixty victims had been identified, all between the ages of three and seven, and further “allegations would be made by parents that several more children were molested even after the investigation had begun.”

Amazingly enough, the center remained open for more than a year after the first case of abuse was reported, though the Mercury News noted that “day care centers under state jurisdiction are routinely closed when an abuse incident is confirmed.” And this was considerably more than a simple abuse incident that was confirmed.

The stories told by the children implicated many other perpetrators besides Hambright. They also told of being taken away from the center to be abused in private homes; at least three such houses were positively identified. They also told of being forced to play “poopoo baseball” and the “googoo” game – 'games' that involved the children being urinated and defecated upon, and being forced to ingest urine and feces.

Many of them also spoke of having guns pointed at them and of having been told that they and/or their parents and siblings would be killed if they told anyone what had been done to them. Despite the mounting number of victim/witnesses, and the numerous crimes alleged by these children, it was only Gary Hambright who was arrested - on January 5, 1987 - and he was charged with abusing just a single child. And even then the charges were dismissed just three months later, in March of 1987.

There is little doubt that literally dozens of children were in fact severely abused at the center. There was irrefutable medical evidence to document that fact. Five of the children had contracted chlamydia, a sexually transmitted disease; many others showed clear signs of anal and genital trauma consistent with violent penetration, which authorities chose to ignore. One mother complained to the San Francisco Chronicle that the FBI never interviewed her or her son, even after doctors had confirmed the boy’s abuse.

There were unmistakable psychological signs as well. As The American Journal of Orthopsychiatry noted in April of 1992: “The severity of the trauma for children at the Presidio was immediately manifest in clear cut symptoms. Before the abuse was exposed, parents had already noticed the following changes in their children: vaginal discharge, genital soreness, rashes, fear of the dark, sleep disturbances, nightmares, sexually provocative language, and sexually inappropriate behavior. In addition, the children were exhibiting other radical changes in behavior, including temper outbursts, sudden mood shifts, and poor impulse control. All these behavioral symptoms are to be expected in preschool children who have been molested.”

The journal article, written by Diane Ehrensaft, Ph.D., also noted that: “The Presidio case has confronted both the public at large and the mental health community with an extraordinary and abhorrent situation of grave psychological proportions: the willful molestation of young boys and girls by representatives of the most patriarchal and supposedly protective arm of the American government – the U.S. Army.”

The article further noted the nearly homicidal rage provoked in the fathers of the children abused in this way, as they saw the investigations of the crimes perpetrated against their children stonewalled and covered up. One father is quoted as saying: “When something about the Presidio comes on TV, I want to blow someone away.” Another father echoed this sentiment: “I was ready to blow the army base away.”

One of those who the fathers would have liked to blow away was Michael Aquino, along with his wife Lilith. One child positively identified the pair, known to the kids as 'Mikey' and 'Shamby,' and was also able to positively identify the Aquino's home and to describe with uncanny accuracy the distinctively satanic interior of the house. The young witness also claimed to have been photographed at the Aquinos' home.

On August 14 of 1987, a search warrant was served on the house. Confiscated in the raid were numerous videotapes, photographs, photo albums, photographic negatives, cassette tapes, and name and address books. Also observed was what appeared to be a soundproof room. Neither Aquino nor his wife were charged with any crimes, nor have they been to this day – a fact that Aquino claims proves his innocence.

The next month, a fire - which the Army deemed to be accidental - destroyed the Army Community Services Building adjacent to the Presidio's day care center. Strangely enough, “the fire occurred on the autumnal equinox, a major event on the satanic calendar,” as the Mercury News noted. The fire also destroyed some of the center's records.

“Three weeks later, fire struck again, this time at the day care center itself.” A building that housed four classrooms, including that of Gary Hambright, was completely destroyed. Investigators from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms determined that “both fires, contrary to the Army's finding, had been arson.”

In between the first and second fires (with evidence indicating that a third arson attempt had been made as well), Hambright was again indicted, this time charged with molesting ten children. In February of 1988, all but one of the charges were dropped. Shortly thereafter, the remaining count was dropped as well, and Hambright was a free man once again. No further charges were brought against him.

In January of 1988, Aquino filed suit against the Army to have it cleared from his record that he had been investigated as a suspected pedophile. According to court records, he also had the gall to charge “Captain Adams-Thompson [the father of a victim] with conduct unbecoming an officer because the Captain reported the allegations of child abuse to the San Francisco police.”

In denying Aquino's motion, the court concluded that “there was probable cause to title Aquino with offenses of indecent acts with a child, sodomy, conspiracy, kidnapping, and false swearing,” despite the fact that “the San Francisco police department (SFPD) closed its investigation and filed no charges against the plaintiff or anyone else.”

Aquino and various of his defenders have consistently claimed that no one was ever prosecuted in the case due to a lack of evidence – proof that the entire affair was no more than a ‘witch hunt.’ Of course, the failure to prosecute the federal charges could also be due to the fact that, at the time, the U.S. Attorney in San Francisco handling the case was Joseph Russoniello.

Russoniello would later be identified by reporter Gary Webb of the San Jose Mercury News as a player in the Contra cocaine smuggling operation led by Lt. Col. Oliver North and company, just as witnesses would later identify Lt. Col. Michael Aquino as an operative in the very same sordid affair. It always helps when your legal ‘adversaries’ are actually on your side.

In May of 1989, Aquino was again questioned in connection with child abuse investigations; this time at least five children in three cities were making the accusations. The children had seen Aquino in newspaper and television coverage of the Presidio case and immediately recognized him as one of their abusers.

Three of the children lived in Ukiah - former home of the People’s Temple - where Police Chief Fred Keplinger was overseeing the investigation of the allegations. The Mercury News quoted the chief as saying that “the children are believable. I have no doubt in my mind that something has occurred.” Aquino was also identified by children in Santa Rosa and Fort Bragg.

In the Fort Bragg case, “allegations of ritual abuse erupted ... in 1985 when several children at the Jubilation Day Care Center said they were sexually abused by a number of people at the day care center and at several locations away from the center, including at least two churches.” Aquino was identified as having been at one of those churches.

The Mercury News also reported that there was clear evidence of satanic cult activity on the grounds of the Presidio base, including an abundance of satanic graffiti, a satanic altar, and numerous artifacts of satanic rituals. A former MP at the base is quoted as saying: “We were sitting there, we've got a cult on the Presidio of San Francisco and nobody cares about it ... We were told by the provost marshal to just forget about it.”

On April 19, 1988 - the eve of Adolf Hitler’s birthday, and seven years to the day before the Oklahoma City Federal Building would explode, allegedly due to an act of ‘domestic terrorism’- an open-house was held on the grounds of the Presidio heralding the opening of the new day care facility built to replace the fire-damaged Child Development Center.

As a final note on the Presidio case, a report in the Marin Independent Journal revealed that Aquino owned a building in Marin County - inherited from his mother, Betty Ford-Aquino - that had been jointly leased to the Marin County Child Abuse Council and Project Care for Children. The stated purpose of Project Care was, interestingly enough, to assist parents in locating day care for their children.

As disturbing as the Presidio case was, it was just one of many ritual abuse cases directly tied to one or more branches of the United States armed forces. As the Mercury News reported: “By November, 1987 the Army had received allegations of child abuse at 15 of its day care centers and several elementary schools. There were also at least two cases in Air Force day care centers,” and another in a center run by the U.S. Navy.

In addition, “a special team of experts was sent to Panama [in June of 1988] to help determine if as many as 10 children at a Department of Defense elementary school had been molested and possibly infected with AIDS.” Yet another case emerged in a U.S.-run facility in West Germany.

These cases erupted at some of the most esteemed military bases in the country, including Fort Dix, Fort Leavenworth, Fort Jackson, and West Point. Many of those making the accusations were career military officers who had devoted their lives to unquestioned allegiance to the U.S. armed forces. Many would resign their posts in outraged protest.

It would be redundant to review all these cases, as most of them followed a remarkably similar pattern. Given though that West Point is America's premier military academy, and given also that the case - like many others - was linked by witnesses to the Presidio, a brief review is warranted here.

As The Times Herald Record reported in June of 1991: “The incidents [at the West Point Child Development Center] unfolded against a backdrop of satanic acts, animal sacrifices and cult-like behavior among the abusers, whose activities extended beyond the U.S. Military Academy borders to Orange County and a military base in San Francisco, parents charged.”

The case first broke in July of 1984, when a three-year-old girl found herself in the emergency room of the West Point Hospital with a lacerated vagina. She told the examining physician that a teacher at the day care center had hurt her. The next month, the parents of another child leveled accusations of abuse at the center.

As the Mercury News reported: “By the end of the year, 50 children had been interviewed by investigators. Children at West Point told stories that would become horrifyingly familiar. They said they had been ritually abused. They said they had had excrement smeared on their bodies and been forced to eat feces and drink urine. They said they were taken away from the day care center and photographed.”

Despite abundant medical and psychological evidence, and literally dozens of child witnesses, and despite “950 interviews by 60 FBI agents assigned to the investigation, an investigation led by former U.S. Attorney Rudolph Giuliani produced no federal grand jury indictments,” according to the Herald Record.

The Herald also noted that: “In 1987, Giuliani said his detailed investigation showed only one or two children were abused.” This was, it should be noted, a bare-faced lie from the fascistic future-mayor and would-be Senator, as the Herald report divulged: “a still-secret, independent report - produced by one of the nation's top experts on child sexual abuse - confirms the children's accusations of abuse.”

This was not the first time that the prestigious academy had shown an appalling willingness to overlook extreme levels of abuse directed at children by army personnel. A year before the abuse case broke, a 22-month-old child was murdered by an Army staff sergeant. The Mercury News reported that: “After a court martial hearing, the sergeant was given an 18 month suspended sentence and dishonorable discharge.”

In other words, he served no time and was essentially given a free ride for murdering a child. With help from Giuliani, the FBI, the U.S. Army, and the grand jury, the abusers of countless children at the day care center (which was, appropriately enough, building number 666 on the academy grounds) were likewise given a free ride.

As with the Franklin case, the children and their parents were to find justice only through the civil courts. The Herald Record reported that: “lawyers for both the government and the 11 child plaintiffs agreed that some children were sexually abused at the center two years ago” (again contradicting Giuliani's bogus conclusions). The government, however, claimed that it could not be held responsible, due to the “assault exemption in the Federal Tort Claim Act.”

As the New York Times explained: “under federal law the government cannot be held liable for assaults committed by its employees and thus cannot be sued for assault.” In other words, the Army did not dispute the allegations, it just rather cavalierly maintained that it was exempt from being sued. The court saw otherwise and awarded $2.7 million to nine of the child victims – paltry compensation for their suffering, but a victory of sorts nonetheless.

The Times opined that the settlement amount “was large for a child-abuse case in which no criminal charges were filed.” The article claimed that the failure to prosecute the case was due to the fact that “the Federal Bureau of Investigation found ‘insufficient evidence to prosecute,’” when in fact the Bureau appears to have deliberately ignored and/or covered-up that evidence.

And so ended the West Point case, except that - as one mother noted - it was hardly over: “These people stole our children. She's nothing like she used to be. She's a very angry little girl. She doesn't trust anyone. She's nothing like she was before this happened. It's never going to be over for them, or for us.”

The mother of a Presidio victim had this to say: “People keep telling us we've got to let it go -- just forget about it and go on ... Three weeks ago, our youngest daughter was having nightmares and our other daughter was closing out the whole world, going to her room and siting there, with no radio, no TV, no nothing. Tell me it's over.”

“I cannot accept promotion in a system that at first refused to acknowledge and now refuses to deal with the victims of extensive child abuse that occurred at the West Point Child Development Center.”

Army Captain Walter R. Grote, refusing a promotion to Major in June 1985. Grote referred to his protest as a “fight for the human rights of all children.”

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FormerLurker  posted on  2010-11-03   18:55:37 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: FormerLurker (#37)

thanks for all that great info on the horrible news. It is painful for me to read about the abuses at West Point. I comment that the overwhelming majority of the people in the US Army are completely opposed to all that stuff.

and I see Guiliani covered up for the pedophiles. thats how he really earned his political career.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-11-03   21:33:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Red Jones (#41)

They also told of being forced to play “poopoo baseball” and the “googoo” game – 'games' that involved the children being urinated and defecated upon, and being forced to ingest urine and feces.

That should have made them extremely ill with a mandatory trip to the hospital. This allegation is silly, and sick.

There is no proof in that article. None at all. But it will be believed by those predisposed to believe such things.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_memory_syndrome

If he is an "investigative" reporter, he is a piss poor example of one.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-11-04   7:03:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: PSUSA, Red Jones (#44)

That should have made them extremely ill with a mandatory trip to the hospital. This allegation is silly, and sick.

He's not the one who made the allegations, or wrote the newspaper articles. He simply reported on the news as it was originally reported.

There are some extremely sick assed people out there, and if it were one or two kids out of the entire country making those claims, then it might be all in their heads. Thing is, it's not one or two, and the practice seems to be something satanists have a solid taste for, as similar stories have been reported from around the country (and the world for that matter).

The US Customs Service and the Washington DC Metro police found jars of urine and feces in their raid of the Finder's warehouse, along with scores of photos and videos depicting naked children taking part in rituals with adults, cutting apart goats and playing with the "baby goats" pulled from inside one goat's womb.

Wise up dude.

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-11-04   10:31:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: FormerLurker (#46)

I'm very open to the idea that children can lie to investigators and others in these cases. IMHO it can happen that they lie. However, it is not true that there is no evidence, mere accusations on these stories you've shown us. A little girl at West Point went to the hospital with a torn vagina and she tells the doctor that a man at the day care center hurt her. So many children testify and to different investigators and there's so much evidence. That Michael Aquino guy at Presidio was sure very evil. When the San Francisco police first identified him as a pedophile they thought they were taking him to prison for a long time with all the children they had testifying. but the CIA told the San Francisco police to drop the case. and so he was free. but in less than 10 years he was again in trouble for being a pedophile. and he was convicted with massive evidence, then from what I'm told he was let go again.

a society that lets its own little children be treated like this and turns its eyes is not a society that is going to receive special blessing from the god of abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

IMHO anyway, we have been a very special nation and received much providence. We've been led to do significant things on this earth. Economic development worldwide corresponded with the existence of the American nation. But just like the hebrews of ancient times who failed to live by 'the law' we have failed also. The hebrews who failed in that endeavour were not rewarded for it, but were scattered out of their region instead. We are similar in that great harm is coming to us.

The day will come when foreigners learning to hate us because of our government will come here in large numbers with intent to kill us. At that time we will need to stand up and call upon the god of abraham, Isaac & Jacob for help. We will need to do so without animosity to churches and human personalities and doubt. because the day is coming when this god will be our only refuge. and if we have any sense we will seek protection from that god.

True to the prophecy given to George Washington when these things occur Jesus will return a 2'nd time and will return to the physical location of our nation. There will be a long period of trouble and destruction for our country. But under Jesus' leadership and direction there will be survivors and we will be built up again.

The people among us who would tolerate the destruction of these children we've been discussing and other great evils will be purged from among us and we won't have to worry about them. We will help to build the kingdom of heaven here on earth. Until then we are facing trials and tribulations that are very difficult.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-11-04   11:18:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Red Jones (#49)

What it comes down to is that this country is for the most part controlled by evil people, and the fact is, Christiantity over it's history was ALSO pure evil in the fact that it commited heinous acts of torture, caused untold suffering, and is not the religion of peace it professes to be.

There is really NO mainstream religion that is without blame.

That is why I'm not religious, yet choose to be aware of God in terms of knowing there IS something beyond this life, and that it is largely unknowable to humankind.

There IS the universal law of Karma, and what goes around eventually comes around. I can at least take some solace in that.

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-11-04   11:46:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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