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Title: John Boehner says NO to earmarks
Source: Wall Street Journal and The Atlantic
URL Source: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100 ... 8.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop
Published: Nov 6, 2010
Author: John Boehner
Post Date: 2010-11-06 10:34:55 by Jethro Tull
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Views: 2284
Comments: 85

I felt this needed it's own thread since the noise on GDT Raw Story report would have been impossible to break through.

Raw Story

Below are two articles that contradict his posting. Both are dated 11/5/10, and the first is written by Boehner himself. It's hard to believe he would go on Fox, Thursday, 11/4, state what GDT reports, and then author the WSJ article the next day. Let me say all these "leaders" need close watching, but I suggest we get things right before we jump the gun.

I have no idea what report(s) are correct at this moment, and if Raw Story is indeed more accurate that the WSJ, the Republican Party will blow a large hole in it's foot, thus allowing Tea Party folk to fully separate from the vehicle they used to carry them into congress.

I suggest we read the articles, and put the rope back in the closet until we know more.

I have maintained a no-earmarks policy throughout my time of service in Congress. I believe the House must adopt a moratorium on all earmarks as a signal of our commitment to ending business as usual in the spending process. *******
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buck, I watched the tube. You might be surprised who supports illegals on 4um, and who in turn supports them. I'm not included in their anti-American cabal, nor are you. There is no in between on that issue for me. It's a nation killer.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-11-06   13:44:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Buck can drop dead if he thinks I will voluntarily allow him to attempt to make a fool of me.

"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan

Flintlock  posted on  2010-11-06   13:51:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The flipside of the protectionists or supporters for illegal aliens invading America are the same as those begging to support Israel and other cockamamie nations (usually under the suspicious umbrella of "national security"). It is a shame they don't realize their own treason and tyranny.

These same treasonous faith based or financially based cowards may pray to God in heaven; they may beg for forgiveness from someone akin to government in Washington DC; they may rationalize their cheap charlatan tricks with family and loved ones but they can not run from a high powered projectile from a good firearm with a well trained shooter pulling the trigger.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-06   14:06:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

There are plenty of forums out there where one can defend the leftist/democrat/progressive road to a euro-peon surf state, do you want 4um to be one of them?

I have only see one person do this and that is Red Jones. But then I am unable to visit f4um as much as I used to so I miss a lot.

Do you want to try to sabotage and stifle the Tea party movement, promote prejudice in the minds of lurkers before good men like Rand Paul and Allen West have even taken office?

I do not believe that being skeptical of the Tea Party movement is sabotaging and/or stifling the Tea Party movement. I have not forgotten the actions of the Republican Party during the time they had complete control of Congress. As far as I could tell tea Party candidates ran on the exact same platform as their Republican counterparts - small government, less taxes and perpetual war. As I've stated previously, I do not believe that it is possible to have small government and perpetual war. I also believe it is fiscally irresponsible as well as unsustainable to have tax cuts while continuing to spend like drunken sailors on perpetual wars and entitlements.

Having said that, I will wait patiently and see what happens (as if I have a choice LOL). Maybe my skepticism will be shown to be misplaced. I would like that.

Are you so selfish and jealous that you are mad that the first real change to come to America since the civil war comes through the Republican Party and not some 2% of the vote third party that you advocate obstructing it?

Are you so forgetful that you do not remember this same sort of shit was said in 1994 and 2000?

The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots.

Voicing skepticism and pointing out double-talk isn't blocking sunlight. I have voiced legitimate questions concerning the views of Tea Party candidates. Questions not being addressed by the government's propaganda news channels or talking heads.

I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-11-06   14:09:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Maybe my skepticism will be shown to be misplaced. I would like that.

It will, especially if we all work together.

1994 and 2000

Last Tuesday was far more historic than 94. Our candidates are much more "enlightened" now, the tricks used in 94 to defeat us won't work again.

WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)

Flintlock  posted on  2010-11-06   14:28:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Last Tuesday was far more historic than 94. Our candidates are much more "enlightened" now, the tricks used in 94 to defeat us won't work again.

You do realize that the newbies are still greatly outnumbered by the members of the status quo don't you?

I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-11-06   14:32:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

If you recall, years ago when many newbies ran on term limits platform and won?

The majority as soon as they got entrenched disavowed term limits.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-06   14:35:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The majority as soon as they got entrenched disavowed term limits.

Not true. Guys like Mark Sanford kept their word. He went on to become Governor of SC

"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan

Flintlock  posted on  2010-11-06   14:45:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

and the others????

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-06   14:49:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I also believe it is fiscally irresponsible as well as unsustainable to have tax cuts while continuing to spend like drunken sailors on perpetual wars and entitlements.

You're not being fair to drunken sailors. At least they are spending their own money.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-11-06   14:52:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

and the others????

There's a lot of them, go look'em up.

"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan

Flintlock  posted on  2010-11-06   14:58:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You're not being fair to drunken sailors. At least they are spending their own money.

Good point. Drunken sailors are much more honorable than any politician.

I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-11-06   15:06:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

There are plenty of forums out there where one can defend the leftist/democrat/progressive road to a euro-peon surf state, do you want 4um to be one of them?

No. I try to provide a wee bit of humour and often it is mistaken because some fine folks can't read.

Do you want to try to sabotage and stifle the Tea party movement, promote prejudice in the minds of lurkers before good men like Rand Paul and Allen West have even taken office?

Allen West, a serious patriot? He is all for continuing the war machine in Washington DC. Here is one example:

AND here:

The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots.

Laughable. A real knee-slapper... I am thinking of changing my by-line with your silly statement.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-06   15:08:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I am unable to visit f4um as much as I used to so I miss a lot.

I guess some fine folks, such as yourself, don't want to have some of the best laffs in a lifetime.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-06   15:20:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Laughable. A real knee-slapper.

Be careful who you mess with bitch!

Each man's death diminishes me,
For I am involved in Bikekind.
Therefore, send not to know
For whom the Harley rolls,
It rolls for thee.

"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan

Flintlock  posted on  2010-11-06   15:26:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Be careful who you mess with bitch!

Oh sure... the wrath and violence of your sincere posted beliefs actually sway me one way or another.

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-06   15:42:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Oh sure... the wrath and violence of your sincere posted beliefs actually sway me one way or another.

Buck...I was kidding, lighten up.

"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan

Flintlock  posted on  2010-11-06   15:46:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Anyone who believes they have some right to take money from others and spend it on projects that they wouldn't spend a dime on if it was their own money* is lower than a thief. A thief doesn't pretend that what he is doing is right but politicians rob people under color of law and thus make the law itself disrespected, dishonorable and disreputable.

*Even if they WOULD spend their own money on it because they thought it was worthwhile still doesn't give them the right to take from others to fund what they believe should be funded. And if you ever notice, when they release their tax forms, the ones who yammer the most about the "unfairness of it all" are the ones who give the least to charity.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-11-06   15:49:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Buck...I was kidding, lighten up.

I am not kidding. Please don't ever alter your post that I reference in my new, fashionable 4um by-line. I love irony ... and today, you are a demonstrable talent of the same.

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-06   15:56:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

There's a lot of them, go look'em up.

Rather have you do it.

I spect there aint no list.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-06   16:05:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Rather have you do it.

I spect there aint no list.

lazy?

There is, but I've got stuff to do beside be your errand boy.

"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan

Flintlock  posted on  2010-11-06   16:18:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

There is, but I've got stuff to do beside be your errand boy.

Olde.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-06   16:42:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You're not being fair to drunken sailors. At least they are spending their own money.

Damn Straight!

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-11-06   16:45:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I guess some fine folks, such as yourself, don't want to have some of the best laffs in a lifetime.

Just too busy. There aren't enough hours in the day.

I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-11-06   17:06:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Anyone who believes they have some right to take money from others and spend it on projects that they wouldn't spend a dime on if it was their own money* is lower than a thief. A thief doesn't pretend that what he is doing is right but politicians rob people under color of law and thus make the law itself disrespected, dishonorable and disreputable.

*Even if they WOULD spend their own money on it because they thought it was worthwhile still doesn't give them the right to take from others to fund what they believe should be funded. And if you ever notice, when they release their tax forms, the ones who yammer the most about the "unfairness of it all" are the ones who give the least to charity.

You'll get no argument from me.

I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-11-06   17:07:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You'll get no argument from me.

The government does not have the right to do anything we ourselves do not have the right to do.

Tough women come from New York, sweet women from Texas, prissy women from Southern California, but we NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood. We can ride 4-wheelers, be a princess, throw a left hook, pack heat, hunt with the men, bake a cake, love with passion, and if we have an opinion, you know you're going to hear it!!

farmfriend  posted on  2010-11-06   17:13:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The government does not have the right to do anything we ourselves do not have the right to do.

That's the way it should be.

I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-11-06   17:17:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The government does not have the right to do anything we ourselves do not have the right to do.

Au contraire, ma belle dame .... government has POWER which often usurps individual rights.

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-06   17:19:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Au contraire, ma belle dame .... government has POWER which often usurps individual rights.

The government only has what we give it.

Tough women come from New York, sweet women from Texas, prissy women from Southern California, but we NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood. We can ride 4-wheelers, be a princess, throw a left hook, pack heat, hunt with the men, bake a cake, love with passion, and if we have an opinion, you know you're going to hear it!!

farmfriend  posted on  2010-11-06   17:21:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

That's the way it should be.

Exactly. I think most people don't have a realist concept of what government is supposed to be.

Tough women come from New York, sweet women from Texas, prissy women from Southern California, but we NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood. We can ride 4-wheelers, be a princess, throw a left hook, pack heat, hunt with the men, bake a cake, love with passion, and if we have an opinion, you know you're going to hear it!!

farmfriend  posted on  2010-11-06   17:21:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Exactly. I think most people don't have a realist concept of what government is supposed to be.

They want government to take care of them

I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-11-06   17:22:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

They want government to take care of them

They feel powerless and want government to make them feel powerful. They use government like a big stick to have their way all the while talking about diversity or freedom etc.

Tough women come from New York, sweet women from Texas, prissy women from Southern California, but we NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood. We can ride 4-wheelers, be a princess, throw a left hook, pack heat, hunt with the men, bake a cake, love with passion, and if we have an opinion, you know you're going to hear it!!

farmfriend  posted on  2010-11-06   17:24:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The government only has what we give it.

Government now enjoys the momentum of, taketh away.

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-06   17:35:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The government does not have the right to do anything we ourselves do not have the right to do.

That is correct. If neither of us have the right to steal from our neighbor then he has no right to steal from us. Taking that to its logical conclusion, if one person doesn't have the right to do something then neither does any group of people, no matter how numerous they may be.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-11-06   17:38:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Government now enjoys the momentum of, taketh away.

All for me and none for all.

Tough women come from New York, sweet women from Texas, prissy women from Southern California, but we NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood. We can ride 4-wheelers, be a princess, throw a left hook, pack heat, hunt with the men, bake a cake, love with passion, and if we have an opinion, you know you're going to hear it!!

farmfriend  posted on  2010-11-06   18:49:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Buck can drop dead if he thinks I will voluntarily allow him to attempt to make a fool of me.

You modified your original post didn't you? And since you did.. doesn't that single act marck you as a fool?

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-07   1:54:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-11-12   8:41:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Boner

LOL

Yes, in full agreement, which you know.

Eric...

I have to say, you are the first to pick up on that.

I have a dislike for most politicians and am uncouth enough to say so in differing ways. You caught me. hehehehehehe

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-12   8:45:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-11-12   23:25:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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