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Title: John Boehner says NO to earmarks
Source: Wall Street Journal and The Atlantic
URL Source: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100 ... 8.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop
Published: Nov 6, 2010
Author: John Boehner
Post Date: 2010-11-06 10:34:55 by Jethro Tull
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I felt this needed it's own thread since the noise on GDT Raw Story report would have been impossible to break through.

Raw Story

Below are two articles that contradict his posting. Both are dated 11/5/10, and the first is written by Boehner himself. It's hard to believe he would go on Fox, Thursday, 11/4, state what GDT reports, and then author the WSJ article the next day. Let me say all these "leaders" need close watching, but I suggest we get things right before we jump the gun.

I have no idea what report(s) are correct at this moment, and if Raw Story is indeed more accurate that the WSJ, the Republican Party will blow a large hole in it's foot, thus allowing Tea Party folk to fully separate from the vehicle they used to carry them into congress.

I suggest we read the articles, and put the rope back in the closet until we know more.


Poster Comment: • No earmarks. Earmarks have become a symbol of a broken Washington, and an entire lobbying industry has been created around them. The speaker of the House shouldn't use the power of the office to raid the federal Treasury for pork-barrel projects. To the contrary, the speaker should be an advocate for ending the current earmark process, and should adhere to a personal no-earmarks policy that stands as an example for all members of Congress to follow

I have maintained a no-earmarks policy throughout my time of service in Congress. I believe the House must adopt a moratorium on all earmarks as a signal of our commitment to ending business as usual in the spending process. *******
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#6. To: Jethro Tull (#4)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-11-06   10:53:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Eric Stratton, 4 (#6)

That's uncalled for. LOL

So is this thread.

So sorry these articles don't fit your template, but nevertheless, you'd be wise to hold your fire until you know the facts.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-11-06   10:59:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Eric Stratton (#1)

I say we all pitch in and get JT a GOP tie for Christmas.

What?

Good heavens.

Were you thinking of a "hemp" tie????

Good heavens.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-06   11:03:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: ndcorup (#2)

They should "suspect" they're going to be watched closely! Who knows if they do.. But a tally sheet after a year will start showing whether a Third Party is going to have to be started using the TEA Party as the core.

Agree. They're on a very tight probation. It won't take much for the Tea Party folk to gather, split, and leave them in the dust. Since they don't take office until January, I think it's a bit premature to begin to declare a victory a failure, but as you say, we will be watching.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-11-06   11:10:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Eric Stratton, Jethro tull (#6)

Gentlemen...

We are ALL on the Titanic.

The lifeboats will be reserved for the elite, the rest of us can sink or swim on our own.

As for Boner and the newbies, we have to face the facts of history, a change of power has never altered the course of politics and the future in this country. Never.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-06   11:19:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Jethro Tull (#9)

Agree. They're on a very tight probation. It won't take much for the Tea Party folk to gather, split, and leave them in the dust. Since they don't take office until January, I think it's a bit premature to begin to declare a victory a failure, but as you say, we will be watching.

Jerthro, some of those here are doing everything they can to attack the Tea Party. Facts be damned for them.

And this last election the third party/write-in ballots were rinos.

For decades the rinos used the excuse that rank and file republicans should not use third parties, and instead work within the party. Then, last primary, when the Tea Party did just that and won, it showed the hypocrisy of the rinos.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-11-06   11:20:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Cynicom (#10)

We are ALL on the Titanic.

The lifeboats will be reserved for the elite, the rest of us can sink or swim on our own.

Unlike the Titanic, we have guns, and if we can not hijack the lifeboats, we will sink them instead.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-11-06   11:22:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: PaulCJ, 4 (#11)

Jerthro, some of those here are doing everything they can to attack the Tea Party. Facts be damned for them.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees the obvious, Paul. These folks won't arrive in Washington until January, yet the demonetization has begun. No more. Lets see what develops, and when and if they eff up, we'll be their harshest critics.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-11-06   11:24:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: PaulCJ (#12)

Unlike the Titanic, we have guns, and if we can not hijack the lifeboats, we will sink them instead.

We cannot overlook the fact that the elite have hired goons with guns to make sure only the elite are safe, that the unwashed go down with the Titanic.

When the government Federalizes all law enforcement, nation wide, we may bet a few but they will get all of us.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-06   11:27:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: randge (#3)

"...Government leaders are servants of the people; the people are not servants of their government..."

Words that every "public servant" should have on a plaque on their desks, one nailed to the desk and facing them. Or maybe even tattooed on their arms.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-11-06   11:29:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Cynicom, Paul, 4 (#14)

When the government Federalizes all law enforcement, nation wide, we may bet a few but they will get all of us.

Very possible, but as of now, the military & the police departments are a solid vote against the Kenyan. I don't see that changing before '12.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-11-06   11:29:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Jethro Tull (#16)

There is but one reason DHS was birthed, to be the controlling civilian law enforcement of this country when the government takes total control.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-06   11:32:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Cynicom (#14)

We cannot overlook the fact that the elite have hired goons with guns to make sure only the elite are safe, that the unwashed go down with the Titanic.

So, after the first wave, the goons and elitists are taken care of in the second wave.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-11-06   11:35:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Jethro Tull, PaulCJ, Christine, All Tea Party Supporters (#13)

PaulCJ - some of those here are doing everything they can to attack the Tea Party. Facts be damned for them.

JT - I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees the obvious,

This forum has become a sounding board for democrat shills, losers and malcontents.

We need to clean house. There are at least 4 posters here that belong at DU or the nest, we all know who they are. Who will have the courage to show them the door? It's not a "free speech" issue, it's defending yourself from propaganda attacks from the left and those who benefit from it.

The Tea Party has a chance to reclaim this country over the next few cycles, we don't need some RAT stooges muddying the waters before a single one of our people are sworn in.

Show them no mercy, just show them the door.

WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)

Flintlock  posted on  2010-11-06   11:39:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: PaulCJ (#18)

On the first Titanic...

First class (elites)

119 died 200 survived...63 per cent

Steerage class...(unwashed masses)

527 died

172 survived...25 per cent

Crew...

703...died

215...survived...23 per cent

I see no reason to change the figures for the second Titanic.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-06   11:43:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Flintlock (#19)

Zeus told me to tell you to name names.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-11-06   11:44:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: A K A Stone (#21)

Zeus told me to tell you to name names.

I've sworn an oath of silence to ODIN!!!

WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)

Flintlock  posted on  2010-11-06   11:46:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Flintlock (#22)

Ok. But it isn't going to make Loki or Thor happy.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-11-06   11:46:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Flintlock, All (#19)

This forum has become a sounding board for democrat shills, losers and malcontents.

Its called freedom of speech.

We are even allowed obscene and vulgar language here, freedom of speech.

Except for this forum, I have been thrown out of every forum I ever posted on, always for expressing my views and opinions. Never for vulgar language or personal attacks.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-06   11:48:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Cynicom (#24)

Its called freedom of speech.

When shill posters lie and spread false information about the Tea Party it's called a propaganda Attack, not "free speech"

WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)

Flintlock  posted on  2010-11-06   11:51:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Flintlock (#25)

When shill posters lie and spread false information about the Tea Party it's called a propaganda Attack, not "free speech"

Have to disagree.

It is not up to you or me to decide if it is a lie or not. If we want to refute it, that is our option.

There is plenty of pap, pablum and poop here as on any forum (propaganda) all brought to us via free speech. We need to learn to cope with it, as the alternative is much worse.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-06   11:57:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Cynicom (#20)

You forget that they only told everyone else after the lifeboats were launched.

You and your elitists friend will find there is not a place on earth you can hide from righteous retribution.

Or have you forgot that you and your elitists are also crashing the economies of the rest of the world.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-11-06   12:00:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Flintlock (#19)

We need to clean house.

JT already tried to get rid of me last week .... but, I am back ready to describe this horrid US political system all over again.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-06   12:01:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: PaulCJ (#27)

You forget that they only told everyone else after the lifeboats were launched.

You and your elitists friend will find there is not a place on earth you can hide from righteous retribution.

Or have you forgot that you and your elitists are also crashing the economies of the rest of the world.

Well now, if you are going to get personal, I will not post.

What I posted had nothing to do with you, it was the facts, listing the survivors.

The crew had a lower survival rate than the masses, I find that admiral.

By the way, had I been there, I would have been as bilge passenger.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-06   12:04:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Cynicom, Flintlock (#24)

Cynicom; Its called freedom of speech.

Such a defense falls on the deaf ears of your victims whom are starving and dispossessed.

You wanted to create a situation where the U.S. Constitution does not exist, if you get your wish, you will not be able to use it to protect yourself with.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-11-06   12:04:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Cynicom (#29)

Well now, if you are going to get personal, I will not post.

When you and your friends started attacking us, destroying our freedoms, our savings, politically attacking us in politics, trying to shout us down, and abuse us, YOU MADE IT PERSONAL!!

If you side with the enemy, you will be counted among the enemy.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-11-06   12:06:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: PaulCJ (#30)

Such a defense falls on the deaf ears of your victims whom are starving and dispossessed.

You wanted to create a situation where the U.S. Constitution does not exist, if you get your wish, you will not be able to use it to protect yourself with.

Usually when a poster stoops to using the term..YOU...it means their intellectual quiver is empty.

I was not there for the first Titanic, but might live long enough to go down with the second.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-06   12:07:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Cynicom (#32)

Usually when a poster stoops to using the term..YOU...it means their intellectual quiver is empty.

And when someone attacks the message and instead the message, like you have, your intellectual quiver IS empty.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-11-06   12:08:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: PaulCJ (#33)

And when someone attacks the message and instead the message, like you have, your intellectual quiver IS empty.

Calm down, your typing is suffering.

I like to zing both the messenger and the message if such is warranted, equal opportunity zinging, always with a little humor.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-06   12:12:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: PaulCJ (#33)

You notice, we have run everyone else off???

Good indication that the good guys are counting their hair, or cleaning their belly button because of disinterest?

It happens.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-06   12:14:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Cynicom (#35)

You notice, we have run everyone else off???

Your defense of the indefensible has had the most to do with that.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-11-06   12:17:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: PaulCJ (#36)

Your defense of the indefensible has had the most to do with that.

I am olde and have forgotten already, what is it that is indefensible???

Short term memory is a bummer.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-06   12:24:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: buckeroo (#28)

JT already tried to get rid of me last week

You were properly placed in the drunk tank, after a fair warning, so at least give the kind folks a fair report.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-11-06   12:25:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Jethro Tull, buckeroo (#38)

Buck is like a carbuncle on the posterior.

One can tolerate it as long as they have the other cheek to sit on. hehehehehe

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-06   12:29:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: PaulCJ (#36)

Your defense of the indefensible has had the most to do with that.

Where did you go????

What were we discussing?

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-06   12:51:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Jethro Tull (#38)

I hope you enjoyed your TEA party this past week without me; you lucky dawg. Now lets watch more pandemonium in Washington DC and more covert international relations.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-06   12:51:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: buckeroo (#41)

I hope you enjoyed your TEA party this past week without me; you lucky dawg. Now lets watch more pandemonium in Washington DC and more covert international relations.

I'm with you on this, buck. Now lets have a drink. I need a beer :P

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-11-06   12:54:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Flintlock, Jethro Tull, PaulCJ, Christine, All Tea Party Supporters (#19)

PaulCJ - some of those here are doing everything they can to attack the Tea Party. Facts be damned for them.

JT - I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees the obvious,

This forum has become a sounding board for democrat shills, losers and malcontents.

We need to clean house. There are at least 4 posters here that belong at DU or the nest, we all know who they are. Who will have the courage to show them the door? It's not a "free speech" issue, it's defending yourself from propaganda attacks from the left and those who benefit from it.

The Tea Party has a chance to reclaim this country over the next few cycles, we don't need some RAT stooges muddying the waters before a single one of our people are sworn in.

Show them no mercy, just show them the door.

You tell 'em Jim Rob, er...Flintlock!

I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-11-06   13:00:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Jethro Tull (#42)

Now lets have a drink. I need a beer :P

I drink vitamin Beer for breakfast. For lunch, I usually start my afternoons off with continuous chasers called Redbreast. For dinner, I like to bathe in variations of rum or vodka.

And then I start the next day off all over again.... similar to the broken record of Washington DC that you believe can change in some sort of direction that never can or never shall be because of a few voters caught up in some sort of euphoria.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-06   13:08:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: buckeroo (#44)

I drink vitamin Beer for breakfast. For lunch, I usually start my afternoons off with continuous chasers called Redbreast. For dinner, I like to bathe in variations of rum or vodka.

buckeroo, you might have been on more floors than Johnson's wax, but we go back a long way and we share a common enemy.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-11-06   13:21:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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