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Title: Ron Paul on Earmarks
Source: Ron Paul.com
URL Source: http://www.ronpaul.com/2009-03-11/ron-paul-on-earmarks/
Published: Mar 11, 2009
Author: Ron Paul
Post Date: 2010-11-06 12:21:49 by F.A. Hayek Fan
Keywords: None
Views: 282
Comments: 39

On Tuesday, Ron Paul spoke on the House floor about the true nature of earmarks and how all spending should be “earmarked”, i.e. we should know how our money is being spent. He also promoted his bill H.R. 1207 which calls for an audit of the Federal Reserve.

Channel: C-SPAN Date: 3/10/2009

Transcript:

Ron Paul: Thank you, Madame Speaker. I would like to address the subject of earmarks today. I think there is a lot of misunderstanding here among the members about exactly what it means to vote against an earmark. It’s very popular today to condemn earmarks and even hold up legislation because of this.

The truth is that if you removed all the earmarks from the budget you would remove 1% of the budget. So there’s not a lot of savings. But, even if you voted against all the earmarks, actually, you don’t even save the 1% because you don’t save any money. What is done is those earmarks are removed and some of them are very wasteful and unnecessary, but that money then goes to the executive branch.

So, in many ways what we are doing here in the Congress is reneging on our responsibilities. Because it is the responsibility of the Congress to earmark. That’s our job. We’re supposed to tell the people how we’re spending the money. Not to just deliver it in the lump sum to the executive branch and let them deal with it. And then it’s dealt with behind the scenes. Actually, if you voted against all the earmarks there would be less transparency. Earmarks really allow transparency and we know exactly where the money is being spent.

You know, the big issue is the spending. If you don’t like the spending, vote against the bill. But the principle of earmarking is something that we have to think about because we’re just further undermining the responsibilities that we have here in the Congress. And if we want to get things under control it won’t be because we vote against an earmark and make a big deal of attacking earmarks because it doesn’t address the subject.

In reality what we need are more earmarks. Just think of the 350 billion dollars that we recently appropriated and gave to the Treasury Department. Now everybody is running around and saying, “We don’t know where the money went, we just gave it to them in a lump sum”. We should have earmarked everything. It should have been designated where the money is going. So instead of too many earmarks we don’t have enough earmarks. Transparency is the only way we can get to the bottom of this and if you make everything earmarked it would be much better.

The definition of an earmark is very, very confusing. If you would vote to support the embassy in Baghdad which came up to nearly a billion dollars, that’s not called an earmark. But if you have an earmark for a highway or a building here in the United States, that is called an earmark. But if you vote for a weapons system, it would support and help a district and that’s not considered an earmark. When people are yelling and screaming about getting rid of earmarks, they’re not talking about getting rid of weapons systems or building buildings and bridges and highways in foreign countries. They only talk about [earmarks] when it is designated that certain money will be spent a certain way in this country.

And, ultimately, where we really need some supervision and some earmarks are the trillions of dollars spent by the Federal Reserve. They get to create their money out of thin air and spend it. They have no responsibility to tell us anything. Under the law they are excluded from telling us where and what they do. So we neglect telling the Treasury how to spend TARP money and then we complain about how they do it.

But just think literally: the Treasury is miniscule compared to what the Federal Reserve does. The Treasury gets hundreds of billions, which is huge, of course, and then we neglect to talk about the Federal Reserve where they are creating money out of thin air and supporting all their friends and taking care of certain banks and certain corporations. And this, to me, has to be addressed.

I’ve introduced a bill, and it’s called H.R. 1207, and this bill would remove the restriction on us to find out what the Federal Reserve is doing. Today, the Federal Reserve under the law is not required to tell us anything. So, all my bill does is remove this restriction and say, “Look, the Federal Reserve, you have a lot of power, you have too much power, you’re spending a lot of, you’re taking care of people that we have no idea what you’re doing, we in the Congress have a responsibility to know exactly what you are doing”.

This bill, H.R. 1207 will allow us, for once-and-for-all, to have some supervision of the Federal Reserve. They’re exempt from telling us anything and they have stiffed us already. There have been lawsuits filed over the Freedom of Information Act. Believe me, there’re not going to work because the law protects the Federal Reserve. The Constitution doesn’t protect the Federal Reserve, the Constitution protects the people and allows them to know exactly what is going on. We should enforce the Constitution. We should not enforce these laws that protect a secret bank that gets to create this money out of thin air.

So the sooner we in the Congress wake up to our responsibilities, understand what earmarks are all about, and understand why we need a lot more earmarks, then we will come to our senses. We might then have a more sensible monetary and banking system instead of the system that has brought us to this calamity. So the sooner we realize that, I think it will be better for the taxpayer.

Madame Speaker: Thank you, the gentleman’s time has expired.

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#1. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#0)

Actually, if you voted against all the earmarks there would be less transparency. Earmarks really allow transparency and we know exactly where the money is being spent.

Right.

Now I understand perfectly well.

Paul is saying business as usual????

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-06   12:27:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#0)

Interesting take from RP.

Lod  posted on  2010-11-06   12:27:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Cynicom (#1)

If I had to make a choice between who to trust on the issue, John Boehner or Ron Paul, then I am going with Ron Paul. Look at his voting record compared to Boehner.

This issue is a smokescreen.

I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-11-06   12:32:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#3)

If I had to make a choice between who to trust on the issue

Well, being olde and crotchety, when politicians start "backing and filling" my BS meter goes off.

That term in politics means the politicians are trying to cover their tracks they left behind. Tracks they now want to disown.

Also did Paul the devout republican, make this speech to a full house or at night as usual, when the chamber is empty?

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-06   12:39:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Cynicom (#4)

Well, being olde and crotchety, when politicians start "backing and filling" my BS meter goes off.

That term in politics means the politicians are trying to cover their tracks they left behind. Tracks they now want to disown.

I do not see that Ron Paul is doing this. He gave this speech in 2009, way before Boehner raised the issue. He has always been for earmarks and his justifications make sense to me.

Also did Paul the devout republican, make this speech to a full house or at night as usual, when the chamber is empty?

I imagine that he gave his speech in the time slot the leadership gave him to give it in. You sound like domer and the rest of the lovers of big government on LP. They blame Paul because Republicans refuse to sponsor or vote for his common sense, small government legislation and you blame Paul because the House leadership, which controls who will speak and when, relegates him to after hours.

It seems to me that the issue here is who to trust - Boehner or Paul. If you trust Boehner that it your choice. I choose to believe Ron Paul due to his voting record and the legislation he has written and tried to get passed.

I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-11-06   12:52:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#5)

It seems to me that the issue here is who to trust - Boehner or Paul.

Neither.

If you read the posts I call him Boner because I have a broad dislike for professional politicians, including Ron Paul.

Paul is my age, he should go away, let the voters bring in a younger person that perhaps has fire in their belly.

Ron Paul is a nice guy, a gentleman, with a wonderful message, but he is not the person to carry it out.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-06   13:03:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Cynicom (#6)

Ron Paul is a nice guy, a gentleman, with a wonderful message, but he is not the person to carry it out.

Maybe so but right now he is the only one we have. He is the only one in the Republican Party who routinely writes small government legislation (regardless if it is completely ignored by his own "party of small government"). He is the only one who shows the duplicity of his party on a routine basis.

Until we can find someone to replace him I will support him.

I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-11-06   13:08:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#7)

Until we can find someone to replace him I will support him.

I am hoping perhaps one of the newbies will take Pauls message and run with it.

A fire eater, not a Mr. Nice Guy.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-06   13:28:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Cynicom (#8)

I am hoping perhaps one of the newbies will take Pauls message and run with it.

A fire eater, not a Mr. Nice Guy.

I would like that very much but I do not see it happening. All of the newbies are war mongers. I do not believe it is possible to have small government and perpetual war. I also do not believe it is fiscally responsible or sustainable to lower taxes while spending like drunken sailors on perpetual war and entitlements.

I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-11-06   13:37:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#9)

All of the newbies are war mongers

Well, they're Christians, mostly Baptists and Evangelicals who believe that war in the ME is tied into the second coming of Heysus.

WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)

Flintlock  posted on  2010-11-06   14:05:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#9)

I would like that very much but I do not see it happening. All of the newbies are war mongers

Right on both accounts.

No one will step forward to lead and speak for the newbies as an elected force, beholding to NO party.

War mongers, yes. When the next appropriations bill comes up after Jan. 1, we will see who the mongers are.

Stop the war, bring home the military and this country mite have a chance.

(Thats Ron Pauls message in essence).

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-06   14:11:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Flintlock (#10)

Well, they're Christians, mostly Baptists and Evangelicals who believe that war in the ME is tied into the second coming of Heysus.

So this is who you claim are going to save this nation? A bunch of talibornagain who can't wait to kill millions in the hopes of getting themselves raptured?

I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-11-06   14:16:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Cynicom, 4um (#11)

Stop the war, bring home the military and this country mite have a chance.

I'm all for stopping these, and all future wars, but as for bringing them home? If we do, I want them disbanded and returned to civilian life ASAP. The last thing I want is an idle, standing army sitting around - save for 50k or so stationed on our borders with orders to shoot to kill.

PS: Putting on your historian's cap, can you point to a period in American history when we haven't been at war? I'm becoming convinced it's our nature.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-11-06   14:22:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Jethro Tull, Cynicom, 4um (#13)

I'm all for stopping these, and all future wars, but as for bringing them home? If we do, I want them disbanded and returned to civilian life ASAP. The last thing I want is an idle, standing army sitting around - save for 50k or so stationed on our borders with orders to shoot to kill.

That's my thinking as well as long as they only harass those trying to enter the country. I should not need government permission to leave the country. The government does not own me and should not be able to stop me from leaving if I want to. The last thing we need is for troops to turn the border into a Berlin Wall.

I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-11-06   14:28:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Jethro Tull (#13)

can you point to a period in American history when we haven't been at war? I'm becoming convinced it's our nature.

At war or planning for war HAS ALWAYS BEEN AN ONGOING "enterprise".

Geopolitics dictates this and human failure takes advantage of it ... TO MAKE WAR.

Right now...WE ARE GEARING UP FOR WW3...Geopolitics tells us that..SO ARE SEVERAL OTHER MAJOR COUNTRIES.The government/elite are of a never ending string that goes back to day one, the war fever transgresses from generation to generation.

It is like DNA, it is genetic and cannot be denied. Man loves war.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-06   14:30:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#12)

So this is who you claim are going to save this nation?

Uh...yep

Ronald Reagan said "The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor"

So while we disagree on a ME war, we agree on everything else. It's doable.

WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)

Flintlock  posted on  2010-11-06   14:36:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Cynicom (#15)

Right now...WE ARE GEARING UP FOR WW3...Geopolitics tells us that..SO ARE SEVERAL OTHER MAJOR COUNTRIES.

I believe that is why we are seeing all of these articles by establishment mouthpieces like Broder and Krugman concerning war and the economy. They are putting a little bug in our ears then, after they collapse the economy we will have already been subjected to this propaganda and become used to the idea. We will beg to go to war in order to try and get back to our TV's and Xbox's.

I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-11-06   14:40:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Cynicom, 4 (#15)

It is like DNA, it is genetic and cannot be denied. Man loves war.

OK, I agree, and this is the point I've been trying to make for many months now. We agree, at NO TIME in American history has there been even a remote period of extended peace. Would you agree with that? If you do, like you, I think 'war' is a human defect, dating back to Cain and Able. With this in mind, we both go back to the not so distant past of Eugene McCarthy. He was a WWII hero, who ran on a pure peace platform. As you recall he garnered only 23 percent of the delegates at the 1968 Democratic National Convention, allowing the pro-war Humphrey to take the nomination. Has there been a pro-peace candidate since? Not that anyone recalls. With this said, for anyone to expect one branch of the same party to stop what appears to be a DNA defect is to buy a one-way ticket to Oz. Sad but true. How do we change it? I'm all ears.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-11-06   14:44:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#17)

Are you interested in historical proof for what you believe???

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-06   14:44:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Flintlock (#16)

Uh...yep

Ronald Reagan said "The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor"

So while we disagree on a ME war, we agree on everything else. It's doable.

Oh I get it. It's one of those "we have to destroy the nation in order to save it" things. You realize that attacking Iran is likely to start WWIII don't you? Iran is China's number one oil supplier. Russia is already on record that they will not allow an attack on Iran go unanswered.

Do you not see how once that starts any talk of smaller government and less taxes are history? Instead of smaller government we will see a vast expansion of government not seen since WWII as well as a draft.

I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-11-06   14:47:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Cynicom (#19)

Are you interested in historical proof for what you believe???

Always.

I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-11-06   14:48:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#20)

You realize that attacking Iran is likely to start WWIII don't you?

I'm certainly not in favor of attacking Iran or anybody else (Well, maybe Canada).

You do realize that all this buddy, buddy stuff that the democrats are doing with India is all about attacking Pakistan.

This foreign policy is being made by the CFR and the Trilateralists not the grassroots. It's serious problem that needs to be resolved, and will be through education.

"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan

Flintlock  posted on  2010-11-06   14:56:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Flintlock (#22)

You do realize that all this buddy, buddy stuff that the democrats are doing with India is all about attacking Pakistan.

I totally agree with this comment. In fact, as we know, O'Bummer already is.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-11-06   14:58:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Flintlock (#22)

I'm certainly not in favor of attacking Iran or anybody else (Well, maybe Canada).

You may not be but most, if not all of the newbies do. While I like the sound of their small government, less taxes rhetoric, it does not square with the reality of what will happen if we attack Iran.

You do realize that all this buddy, buddy stuff that the democrats are doing with India is all about attacking Pakistan.

I imagine it's partly that and partly trying to find new Indian markets to outsource American jobs to.

This foreign policy is being made by the CFR and the Trilateralists not the grassroots. It's serious problem that needs to be resolved, and will be through education.

Whoever is behind it you can be sure that the good of the country is not being taken into account.

I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-11-06   15:04:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#24)

Whoever is behind it you can be sure that the good of the country is not being taken into account.

Agreed, Ron Paul knows the score and Rand does too. I'm sure they're spreading the word and I'm just happy we have one of our own in the Senate.

It's about time, and it was done by the Tea Party

"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan

Flintlock  posted on  2010-11-06   15:09:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#21)

Always.

Most likely you are already aware of this, it is perfect example of geopolitics and war planning...

In 1919, immediately after wars end, the government/war dept proposed building the Malinta tunnel on Corregidor...to thwart an invasion by the Japanese, our ally of one year before.

The tunnel was started in 1922, finished in 1932 and used by MacArthur in 1942.

All under war plan Orange, which said the troops should fight til the end on Corregidor, then surrender...AS THERE WOULD BE NO RELIEF COMING...they were expendable.

If you never studied this, ask yourself how and why the war people started it all twenty years before the fact.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-06   15:09:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Jethro Tull, Flintlock (#23)

Jethro Tull; I totally agree with this comment. In fact, as we know, O'Bummer already is.

The only reason that WWII pulled the U.S. out of the depression was that the factories were still in place before hand. They were just shutdown. There was still industry here in the U.S.

That is not the case now. The factories in the U.S. have long since been torn down.

If he decides to declare a major war modern military, the U.S. could lose. Dollar is already collapsing. Other nations are about to stop lending to the U.S. government, and the people are going broke. The U.S. military grinds to a halt in the middle of a war. A war with a nuclear power. Lets not forget that Pakistan is a nuclear power.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-11-06   15:09:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Jethro Tull, Flintlock (#23)

You do realize that all this buddy, buddy stuff that the democrats are doing with India is all about attacking Pakistan.

Removing the nukes is their prime adventure, attacking would be a last resort.

All of which has the good will of Russia and China.

Rather odd fact of reality. We are doing the dirty work they could not or will not do.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-06   15:12:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: PaulCJ (#27)

Lets not forget that Pakistan is a nuclear power.

That's the whole reason they want to go after them, always has been and it's been over 15 years in the making.

"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan

Flintlock  posted on  2010-11-06   15:12:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Flintlock (#25)

Agreed, Ron Paul knows the score and Rand does too. I'm sure they're spreading the word and I'm just happy we have one of our own in the Senate.

The jury is still out on Rand. He has said some things about Israel and the war on terror that I completely disagree with. However, if he is half the man his father is then he will really throw a wrench into the wheel of the two party fraud. A Paul in the Senate has much, much more power than a Paul in the House does.

It's about time, and it was done by the Tea Party

Yes, they had something to do with it. On the other hand, they had a lot to do with the election of Roy Blunt to the Senate and Billy Long as the District 7 Congressional Representative . Michelle Bachman even even came down and campaigned for big government Rino Blunt. So all is not as rosy as you think.

I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-11-06   15:16:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Cynicom, 4 (#28)

Agree. I think the decision has been made that Musharraf is of no further use. IMO, he now has the life expectancy of a fruit fly.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-11-06   15:16:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Flintlock (#29)

That's the whole reason they want to go after them, always has been and it's been over 15 years in the making.

No, the reason is the guy in the WH wants to destroy the U.S. and make himself dictator.

Of course, the way he has been treating the political leaders of India, India may wash their hands of any such war while he is in the WH.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-11-06   15:20:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: PaulCJ (#27)

Right, we have no capability to fight a conventional war which makes things really hairy, given our Street Agitator-in-Chief.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-11-06   15:20:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Cynicom (#6)

Paul is my age, he should go away, let the voters bring in a younger person that perhaps has fire in their belly.

Ron Paul is a nice guy, a gentleman, with a wonderful message, but he is not the person to carry it out.

In a perfect world what you say here makes good sense. However, we don't livw in PERFECT WORLD AND THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE A YOUNGER NICE GUY WITH FIRE IN HIS BELLY, ON THE HORIZON. Paul seems to be the only one who gets it, who understands the mistakes and the influence of the special interests and avoids compromising his character and principles far more than any other politican. He is not perfect and he makes mistakes like all humans.

He has been making "wake up Americans" wakeup calls for a long time. Before him William Proxmire did the same. But we dumbed down Americans ignored closing the barn door until the horses already got out. Now we put the messenger in the gunsights and lay the blame on him.

We have earned what is happening to us(US)now and we have done it the old fashion way by either steering clear of the problemsand or ignoring them until they come to overwhelm us. Then we find some cheapshots at someone like Ron Paul. Like him or not, right now he is the only politican at least willing to bring up the "REAL" problems bringing this nation down.

If there is a younger politican out there with fire in his belly, he better show up real quick because we are running out of time.

LACUMO  posted on  2010-11-06   15:38:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Jethro Tull (#33)

Right, we have no capability to fight a conventional war which makes things really hairy, given our Street Agitator-in-Chief.

The problem is this guy clearly does not work well when under pressure. And if things start looking bad for him, he doesn't give a damn about the nation, he might resort to nukes to end things quickly in the war he starts.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-11-06   15:47:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: PaulCJ, Jethro Tull, Flintlock (#27)

That is not the case now. The factories in the U.S. have long since been torn down.

You keep repeating this but it's just not true.

U.S. Still World’s Largest Manufacturing Economy

US still world's biggest manufacturer but China gains: study

Reports of the death of U.S. manufacturing exaggerated

The U.S.A. Is Still the World's Largest Manufacturer

JT, Flintlock, since he has me on his bozo list would you please forward this so that he can see this information and stop spreading his anti-American lies. If he continues then we will know that he is here to help the elite destroy our economy.

I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-11-06   17:02:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#36)

since he has me on his bozo list

I can't believe anyone would have you on their bozo list.


Tough women come from New York, sweet women from Texas, prissy women from Southern California, but we NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood. We can ride 4-wheelers, be a princess, throw a left hook, pack heat, hunt with the men, bake a cake, love with passion, and if we have an opinion, you know you're going to hear it!!

farmfriend  posted on  2010-11-06   17:11:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: farmfriend (#37)

I can't believe anyone would have you on their bozo list.

Do I detect sarcasm? LOL!

He has me on his bozo list because every time he opened his war-mongering, empire-loving ass I spanked it unmercifully.

I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-11-06   17:16:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#38)

Do I detect sarcasm? LOL!

LOL well normally but not in this case.


Tough women come from New York, sweet women from Texas, prissy women from Southern California, but we NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood. We can ride 4-wheelers, be a princess, throw a left hook, pack heat, hunt with the men, bake a cake, love with passion, and if we have an opinion, you know you're going to hear it!!

farmfriend  posted on  2010-11-06   17:22:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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