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Title: Ron Paul on Earmarks
Source: Ron Paul.com
URL Source: http://www.ronpaul.com/2009-03-11/ron-paul-on-earmarks/
Published: Mar 11, 2009
Author: Ron Paul
Post Date: 2010-11-06 12:21:49 by F.A. Hayek Fan
Keywords: None
Views: 290
Comments: 39

On Tuesday, Ron Paul spoke on the House floor about the true nature of earmarks and how all spending should be “earmarked”, i.e. we should know how our money is being spent. He also promoted his bill H.R. 1207 which calls for an audit of the Federal Reserve.

Channel: C-SPAN Date: 3/10/2009

Transcript:

Ron Paul: Thank you, Madame Speaker. I would like to address the subject of earmarks today. I think there is a lot of misunderstanding here among the members about exactly what it means to vote against an earmark. It’s very popular today to condemn earmarks and even hold up legislation because of this.

The truth is that if you removed all the earmarks from the budget you would remove 1% of the budget. So there’s not a lot of savings. But, even if you voted against all the earmarks, actually, you don’t even save the 1% because you don’t save any money. What is done is those earmarks are removed and some of them are very wasteful and unnecessary, but that money then goes to the executive branch.

So, in many ways what we are doing here in the Congress is reneging on our responsibilities. Because it is the responsibility of the Congress to earmark. That’s our job. We’re supposed to tell the people how we’re spending the money. Not to just deliver it in the lump sum to the executive branch and let them deal with it. And then it’s dealt with behind the scenes. Actually, if you voted against all the earmarks there would be less transparency. Earmarks really allow transparency and we know exactly where the money is being spent.

You know, the big issue is the spending. If you don’t like the spending, vote against the bill. But the principle of earmarking is something that we have to think about because we’re just further undermining the responsibilities that we have here in the Congress. And if we want to get things under control it won’t be because we vote against an earmark and make a big deal of attacking earmarks because it doesn’t address the subject.

In reality what we need are more earmarks. Just think of the 350 billion dollars that we recently appropriated and gave to the Treasury Department. Now everybody is running around and saying, “We don’t know where the money went, we just gave it to them in a lump sum”. We should have earmarked everything. It should have been designated where the money is going. So instead of too many earmarks we don’t have enough earmarks. Transparency is the only way we can get to the bottom of this and if you make everything earmarked it would be much better.

The definition of an earmark is very, very confusing. If you would vote to support the embassy in Baghdad which came up to nearly a billion dollars, that’s not called an earmark. But if you have an earmark for a highway or a building here in the United States, that is called an earmark. But if you vote for a weapons system, it would support and help a district and that’s not considered an earmark. When people are yelling and screaming about getting rid of earmarks, they’re not talking about getting rid of weapons systems or building buildings and bridges and highways in foreign countries. They only talk about [earmarks] when it is designated that certain money will be spent a certain way in this country.

And, ultimately, where we really need some supervision and some earmarks are the trillions of dollars spent by the Federal Reserve. They get to create their money out of thin air and spend it. They have no responsibility to tell us anything. Under the law they are excluded from telling us where and what they do. So we neglect telling the Treasury how to spend TARP money and then we complain about how they do it.

But just think literally: the Treasury is miniscule compared to what the Federal Reserve does. The Treasury gets hundreds of billions, which is huge, of course, and then we neglect to talk about the Federal Reserve where they are creating money out of thin air and supporting all their friends and taking care of certain banks and certain corporations. And this, to me, has to be addressed.

I’ve introduced a bill, and it’s called H.R. 1207, and this bill would remove the restriction on us to find out what the Federal Reserve is doing. Today, the Federal Reserve under the law is not required to tell us anything. So, all my bill does is remove this restriction and say, “Look, the Federal Reserve, you have a lot of power, you have too much power, you’re spending a lot of, you’re taking care of people that we have no idea what you’re doing, we in the Congress have a responsibility to know exactly what you are doing”.

This bill, H.R. 1207 will allow us, for once-and-for-all, to have some supervision of the Federal Reserve. They’re exempt from telling us anything and they have stiffed us already. There have been lawsuits filed over the Freedom of Information Act. Believe me, there’re not going to work because the law protects the Federal Reserve. The Constitution doesn’t protect the Federal Reserve, the Constitution protects the people and allows them to know exactly what is going on. We should enforce the Constitution. We should not enforce these laws that protect a secret bank that gets to create this money out of thin air.

So the sooner we in the Congress wake up to our responsibilities, understand what earmarks are all about, and understand why we need a lot more earmarks, then we will come to our senses. We might then have a more sensible monetary and banking system instead of the system that has brought us to this calamity. So the sooner we realize that, I think it will be better for the taxpayer.

Madame Speaker: Thank you, the gentleman’s time has expired.

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#1. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#0)

Actually, if you voted against all the earmarks there would be less transparency. Earmarks really allow transparency and we know exactly where the money is being spent.

Right.

Now I understand perfectly well.

Paul is saying business as usual????

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-06   12:27:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Cynicom (#1)

If I had to make a choice between who to trust on the issue, John Boehner or Ron Paul, then I am going with Ron Paul. Look at his voting record compared to Boehner.

This issue is a smokescreen.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-11-06   12:32:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#3)

If I had to make a choice between who to trust on the issue

Well, being olde and crotchety, when politicians start "backing and filling" my BS meter goes off.

That term in politics means the politicians are trying to cover their tracks they left behind. Tracks they now want to disown.

Also did Paul the devout republican, make this speech to a full house or at night as usual, when the chamber is empty?

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-06   12:39:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Cynicom (#4)

Well, being olde and crotchety, when politicians start "backing and filling" my BS meter goes off.

That term in politics means the politicians are trying to cover their tracks they left behind. Tracks they now want to disown.

I do not see that Ron Paul is doing this. He gave this speech in 2009, way before Boehner raised the issue. He has always been for earmarks and his justifications make sense to me.

Also did Paul the devout republican, make this speech to a full house or at night as usual, when the chamber is empty?

I imagine that he gave his speech in the time slot the leadership gave him to give it in. You sound like domer and the rest of the lovers of big government on LP. They blame Paul because Republicans refuse to sponsor or vote for his common sense, small government legislation and you blame Paul because the House leadership, which controls who will speak and when, relegates him to after hours.

It seems to me that the issue here is who to trust - Boehner or Paul. If you trust Boehner that it your choice. I choose to believe Ron Paul due to his voting record and the legislation he has written and tried to get passed.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-11-06   12:52:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#5)

It seems to me that the issue here is who to trust - Boehner or Paul.

Neither.

If you read the posts I call him Boner because I have a broad dislike for professional politicians, including Ron Paul.

Paul is my age, he should go away, let the voters bring in a younger person that perhaps has fire in their belly.

Ron Paul is a nice guy, a gentleman, with a wonderful message, but he is not the person to carry it out.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-06   13:03:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Cynicom (#6)

Ron Paul is a nice guy, a gentleman, with a wonderful message, but he is not the person to carry it out.

Maybe so but right now he is the only one we have. He is the only one in the Republican Party who routinely writes small government legislation (regardless if it is completely ignored by his own "party of small government"). He is the only one who shows the duplicity of his party on a routine basis.

Until we can find someone to replace him I will support him.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-11-06   13:08:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#7)

Until we can find someone to replace him I will support him.

I am hoping perhaps one of the newbies will take Pauls message and run with it.

A fire eater, not a Mr. Nice Guy.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-06   13:28:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Cynicom (#8)

I am hoping perhaps one of the newbies will take Pauls message and run with it.

A fire eater, not a Mr. Nice Guy.

I would like that very much but I do not see it happening. All of the newbies are war mongers. I do not believe it is possible to have small government and perpetual war. I also do not believe it is fiscally responsible or sustainable to lower taxes while spending like drunken sailors on perpetual war and entitlements.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-11-06   13:37:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#9)

I would like that very much but I do not see it happening. All of the newbies are war mongers

Right on both accounts.

No one will step forward to lead and speak for the newbies as an elected force, beholding to NO party.

War mongers, yes. When the next appropriations bill comes up after Jan. 1, we will see who the mongers are.

Stop the war, bring home the military and this country mite have a chance.

(Thats Ron Pauls message in essence).

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-06   14:11:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Cynicom, 4um (#11)

Stop the war, bring home the military and this country mite have a chance.

I'm all for stopping these, and all future wars, but as for bringing them home? If we do, I want them disbanded and returned to civilian life ASAP. The last thing I want is an idle, standing army sitting around - save for 50k or so stationed on our borders with orders to shoot to kill.

PS: Putting on your historian's cap, can you point to a period in American history when we haven't been at war? I'm becoming convinced it's our nature.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-11-06   14:22:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Jethro Tull (#13)

can you point to a period in American history when we haven't been at war? I'm becoming convinced it's our nature.

At war or planning for war HAS ALWAYS BEEN AN ONGOING "enterprise".

Geopolitics dictates this and human failure takes advantage of it ... TO MAKE WAR.

Right now...WE ARE GEARING UP FOR WW3...Geopolitics tells us that..SO ARE SEVERAL OTHER MAJOR COUNTRIES.The government/elite are of a never ending string that goes back to day one, the war fever transgresses from generation to generation.

It is like DNA, it is genetic and cannot be denied. Man loves war.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-06   14:30:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Cynicom (#15)

Right now...WE ARE GEARING UP FOR WW3...Geopolitics tells us that..SO ARE SEVERAL OTHER MAJOR COUNTRIES.

I believe that is why we are seeing all of these articles by establishment mouthpieces like Broder and Krugman concerning war and the economy. They are putting a little bug in our ears then, after they collapse the economy we will have already been subjected to this propaganda and become used to the idea. We will beg to go to war in order to try and get back to our TV's and Xbox's.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-11-06   14:40:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#19. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#17)

Are you interested in historical proof for what you believe???

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-06 14:44:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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