[Home]  [Headlines]  [Latest Articles]  [Latest Comments]  [Post]  [Sign-in]  [Mail]  [Setup]  [Help]  [Register] 

Status: Not Logged In; Sign In

Smith: It's Damned Hard To Be Proud Of America

Lefties losing it: Rita Panahi slams ‘deranged rant’ calling for assassination of Trump

Stalin, The Red Terror | Full Documentary

Russia, Soviet Union and The Cold War: Stalin's Legacy | Russia's Wars Ep.2 | Documentary

Battle and Liberation: The End of World War II | Countdown to Surrender – The Last 100 Days | Ep. 4

Ethereum ETFs In 'Window-Dressing' Stage, Approval Within Weeks; Galaxy

Americans Are More Likely To Go To War With The Government Than Submit To The Draft

Rudy Giuliani has just been disbarred in New York

Israeli Generals Want Truce in Gaza,

Joe Biden's felon son Hunter is joining White House meetings

The only Democrat who could beat Trump

Ukraine is too CORRUPT to join NATO, US says, in major blow to Zelensky and boost for Putin

CNN Erin Burnett Admits Joe Biden knew the Debate questions..

Affirmative Action Suit Details How Law School Blackballed Accomplished White Men, Opted For Unqualified Black Women

Russia warns Israel over Ukraine missiles

Yemeni Houthis Vow USS Theodore Roosevelt 'Primary Target' Once it Enters Red Sea

3 Minutes Ago: Jim Rickards Shared Horrible WARNING

Horse is back at library

Crossdressing Luggage Snatcher and Ex-Biden Official Sam Brinton Gets Sweetheart Plea Deal

Music

The Ones That Didn't Make It Back Home [featuring Pacman @ 0:49 - 0:57 in his natural habitat]

Let’s Talk About Grief | Death Anniversary

Democrats Suddenly Change Slogan To 'Orange Man Good'

America in SHOCK as New Footage of Jill Biden's 'ELDER ABUSE' Emerges | Dems FURIOUS: 'Jill is EVIL'

Executions, reprisals and counter-executions - SS Polizei Regiment 19 versus the French Resistance

Paratrooper kills german soldier and returns wedding photos to his family after 68 years

AMeRiKaN GULaG...

'Christian Warrior Training' explodes as churches put faith in guns

Major insurer gives brutal ultimatum to entire state: Let us put up prices by 50 percent or we will leave

Biden Admin Issues Order Blocking Haitian Illegal Immigrants From Deportation


Editorial
See other Editorial Articles

Title: Ron Paul on Earmarks
Source: Ron Paul.com
URL Source: http://www.ronpaul.com/2009-03-11/ron-paul-on-earmarks/
Published: Mar 11, 2009
Author: Ron Paul
Post Date: 2010-11-06 12:21:49 by F.A. Hayek Fan
Keywords: None
Views: 307
Comments: 39

On Tuesday, Ron Paul spoke on the House floor about the true nature of earmarks and how all spending should be “earmarked”, i.e. we should know how our money is being spent. He also promoted his bill H.R. 1207 which calls for an audit of the Federal Reserve.

Channel: C-SPAN Date: 3/10/2009

Transcript:

Ron Paul: Thank you, Madame Speaker. I would like to address the subject of earmarks today. I think there is a lot of misunderstanding here among the members about exactly what it means to vote against an earmark. It’s very popular today to condemn earmarks and even hold up legislation because of this.

The truth is that if you removed all the earmarks from the budget you would remove 1% of the budget. So there’s not a lot of savings. But, even if you voted against all the earmarks, actually, you don’t even save the 1% because you don’t save any money. What is done is those earmarks are removed and some of them are very wasteful and unnecessary, but that money then goes to the executive branch.

So, in many ways what we are doing here in the Congress is reneging on our responsibilities. Because it is the responsibility of the Congress to earmark. That’s our job. We’re supposed to tell the people how we’re spending the money. Not to just deliver it in the lump sum to the executive branch and let them deal with it. And then it’s dealt with behind the scenes. Actually, if you voted against all the earmarks there would be less transparency. Earmarks really allow transparency and we know exactly where the money is being spent.

You know, the big issue is the spending. If you don’t like the spending, vote against the bill. But the principle of earmarking is something that we have to think about because we’re just further undermining the responsibilities that we have here in the Congress. And if we want to get things under control it won’t be because we vote against an earmark and make a big deal of attacking earmarks because it doesn’t address the subject.

In reality what we need are more earmarks. Just think of the 350 billion dollars that we recently appropriated and gave to the Treasury Department. Now everybody is running around and saying, “We don’t know where the money went, we just gave it to them in a lump sum”. We should have earmarked everything. It should have been designated where the money is going. So instead of too many earmarks we don’t have enough earmarks. Transparency is the only way we can get to the bottom of this and if you make everything earmarked it would be much better.

The definition of an earmark is very, very confusing. If you would vote to support the embassy in Baghdad which came up to nearly a billion dollars, that’s not called an earmark. But if you have an earmark for a highway or a building here in the United States, that is called an earmark. But if you vote for a weapons system, it would support and help a district and that’s not considered an earmark. When people are yelling and screaming about getting rid of earmarks, they’re not talking about getting rid of weapons systems or building buildings and bridges and highways in foreign countries. They only talk about [earmarks] when it is designated that certain money will be spent a certain way in this country.

And, ultimately, where we really need some supervision and some earmarks are the trillions of dollars spent by the Federal Reserve. They get to create their money out of thin air and spend it. They have no responsibility to tell us anything. Under the law they are excluded from telling us where and what they do. So we neglect telling the Treasury how to spend TARP money and then we complain about how they do it.

But just think literally: the Treasury is miniscule compared to what the Federal Reserve does. The Treasury gets hundreds of billions, which is huge, of course, and then we neglect to talk about the Federal Reserve where they are creating money out of thin air and supporting all their friends and taking care of certain banks and certain corporations. And this, to me, has to be addressed.

I’ve introduced a bill, and it’s called H.R. 1207, and this bill would remove the restriction on us to find out what the Federal Reserve is doing. Today, the Federal Reserve under the law is not required to tell us anything. So, all my bill does is remove this restriction and say, “Look, the Federal Reserve, you have a lot of power, you have too much power, you’re spending a lot of, you’re taking care of people that we have no idea what you’re doing, we in the Congress have a responsibility to know exactly what you are doing”.

This bill, H.R. 1207 will allow us, for once-and-for-all, to have some supervision of the Federal Reserve. They’re exempt from telling us anything and they have stiffed us already. There have been lawsuits filed over the Freedom of Information Act. Believe me, there’re not going to work because the law protects the Federal Reserve. The Constitution doesn’t protect the Federal Reserve, the Constitution protects the people and allows them to know exactly what is going on. We should enforce the Constitution. We should not enforce these laws that protect a secret bank that gets to create this money out of thin air.

So the sooner we in the Congress wake up to our responsibilities, understand what earmarks are all about, and understand why we need a lot more earmarks, then we will come to our senses. We might then have a more sensible monetary and banking system instead of the system that has brought us to this calamity. So the sooner we realize that, I think it will be better for the taxpayer.

Madame Speaker: Thank you, the gentleman’s time has expired.

Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread  


TopPage UpFull ThreadPage DownBottom/Latest

Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 28.

#1. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#0)

Actually, if you voted against all the earmarks there would be less transparency. Earmarks really allow transparency and we know exactly where the money is being spent.

Right.

Now I understand perfectly well.

Paul is saying business as usual????

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-06   12:27:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Cynicom (#1)

If I had to make a choice between who to trust on the issue, John Boehner or Ron Paul, then I am going with Ron Paul. Look at his voting record compared to Boehner.

This issue is a smokescreen.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-11-06   12:32:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#3)

If I had to make a choice between who to trust on the issue

Well, being olde and crotchety, when politicians start "backing and filling" my BS meter goes off.

That term in politics means the politicians are trying to cover their tracks they left behind. Tracks they now want to disown.

Also did Paul the devout republican, make this speech to a full house or at night as usual, when the chamber is empty?

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-06   12:39:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Cynicom (#4)

Well, being olde and crotchety, when politicians start "backing and filling" my BS meter goes off.

That term in politics means the politicians are trying to cover their tracks they left behind. Tracks they now want to disown.

I do not see that Ron Paul is doing this. He gave this speech in 2009, way before Boehner raised the issue. He has always been for earmarks and his justifications make sense to me.

Also did Paul the devout republican, make this speech to a full house or at night as usual, when the chamber is empty?

I imagine that he gave his speech in the time slot the leadership gave him to give it in. You sound like domer and the rest of the lovers of big government on LP. They blame Paul because Republicans refuse to sponsor or vote for his common sense, small government legislation and you blame Paul because the House leadership, which controls who will speak and when, relegates him to after hours.

It seems to me that the issue here is who to trust - Boehner or Paul. If you trust Boehner that it your choice. I choose to believe Ron Paul due to his voting record and the legislation he has written and tried to get passed.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-11-06   12:52:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#5)

It seems to me that the issue here is who to trust - Boehner or Paul.

Neither.

If you read the posts I call him Boner because I have a broad dislike for professional politicians, including Ron Paul.

Paul is my age, he should go away, let the voters bring in a younger person that perhaps has fire in their belly.

Ron Paul is a nice guy, a gentleman, with a wonderful message, but he is not the person to carry it out.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-06   13:03:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Cynicom (#6)

Ron Paul is a nice guy, a gentleman, with a wonderful message, but he is not the person to carry it out.

Maybe so but right now he is the only one we have. He is the only one in the Republican Party who routinely writes small government legislation (regardless if it is completely ignored by his own "party of small government"). He is the only one who shows the duplicity of his party on a routine basis.

Until we can find someone to replace him I will support him.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-11-06   13:08:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#7)

Until we can find someone to replace him I will support him.

I am hoping perhaps one of the newbies will take Pauls message and run with it.

A fire eater, not a Mr. Nice Guy.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-06   13:28:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Cynicom (#8)

I am hoping perhaps one of the newbies will take Pauls message and run with it.

A fire eater, not a Mr. Nice Guy.

I would like that very much but I do not see it happening. All of the newbies are war mongers. I do not believe it is possible to have small government and perpetual war. I also do not believe it is fiscally responsible or sustainable to lower taxes while spending like drunken sailors on perpetual war and entitlements.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-11-06   13:37:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#9)

All of the newbies are war mongers

Well, they're Christians, mostly Baptists and Evangelicals who believe that war in the ME is tied into the second coming of Heysus.

Flintlock  posted on  2010-11-06   14:05:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Flintlock (#10)

Well, they're Christians, mostly Baptists and Evangelicals who believe that war in the ME is tied into the second coming of Heysus.

So this is who you claim are going to save this nation? A bunch of talibornagain who can't wait to kill millions in the hopes of getting themselves raptured?

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-11-06   14:16:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#12)

So this is who you claim are going to save this nation?

Uh...yep

Ronald Reagan said "The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor"

So while we disagree on a ME war, we agree on everything else. It's doable.

Flintlock  posted on  2010-11-06   14:36:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Flintlock (#16)

Uh...yep

Ronald Reagan said "The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor"

So while we disagree on a ME war, we agree on everything else. It's doable.

Oh I get it. It's one of those "we have to destroy the nation in order to save it" things. You realize that attacking Iran is likely to start WWIII don't you? Iran is China's number one oil supplier. Russia is already on record that they will not allow an attack on Iran go unanswered.

Do you not see how once that starts any talk of smaller government and less taxes are history? Instead of smaller government we will see a vast expansion of government not seen since WWII as well as a draft.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-11-06   14:47:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#20)

You realize that attacking Iran is likely to start WWIII don't you?

I'm certainly not in favor of attacking Iran or anybody else (Well, maybe Canada).

You do realize that all this buddy, buddy stuff that the democrats are doing with India is all about attacking Pakistan.

This foreign policy is being made by the CFR and the Trilateralists not the grassroots. It's serious problem that needs to be resolved, and will be through education.

Flintlock  posted on  2010-11-06   14:56:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Flintlock (#22)

You do realize that all this buddy, buddy stuff that the democrats are doing with India is all about attacking Pakistan.

I totally agree with this comment. In fact, as we know, O'Bummer already is.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-11-06   14:58:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Jethro Tull, Flintlock (#23)

You do realize that all this buddy, buddy stuff that the democrats are doing with India is all about attacking Pakistan.

Removing the nukes is their prime adventure, attacking would be a last resort.

All of which has the good will of Russia and China.

Rather odd fact of reality. We are doing the dirty work they could not or will not do.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-06   15:12:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


Replies to Comment # 28.

#31. To: Cynicom, 4 (#28)

Agree. I think the decision has been made that Musharraf is of no further use. IMO, he now has the life expectancy of a fruit fly.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-11-06 15:16:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


End Trace Mode for Comment # 28.

TopPage UpFull ThreadPage DownBottom/Latest


[Home]  [Headlines]  [Latest Articles]  [Latest Comments]  [Post]  [Sign-in]  [Mail]  [Setup]  [Help]  [Register]