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Title: Open Season on Muslims in America
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Published: Nov 7, 2010
Author: Stephen Lendman
Post Date: 2010-11-07 05:30:17 by Stephen Lendman
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Open Season on Muslims in America - by Stephen Lendman

More than ever today, Muslims are public enemy number one. Post-9/11, they've been ruthlessly vilified and persecuted for their faith, ethnicity, prominence and activism. As a result, innocent men and women have been spuriously called terrorists, or charged with conspiracy to provide them material support.

No wonder as an earlier article explained. They've been unfairly portrayed as culturally inferior, dirty, lecherous, untrustworthy, religiously fanatical, violent, gun-toting terrorists. As a result, hundreds have been wrongfully arrested, charged, convicted and imprisoned, guilty only of being Muslims in America at the wrong time. Their treatment represents a clear indictment of US injustice, targeting innocent victims for political advantage.

A September 20 Congressional Research Service (CRS) report titled, "American Jihadist Terrorism: Combating a Complex Threat" explains more about America's scheme, naming names, "plots," and dates to highlight the "threat." It begins saying:

"Between May 2009 and August 2010 (alone), arrests were made for 19 'homegrown,' jihadist-inspired terrorist plots by American citizens or legal permanent residents of the United States." They were Muslims "susceptible to ideologies supporting a violent form of jihad, a term willfully misused. CRS suggests that jihad = violence, "jihadists,"....illegally supporting, plotting, or directly engaging in violent terrorist activity."

Post-9/11, CRS cited 40 homegrown "jihadist" plots, including attacks on America, likely reflecting Al Qaeda directed schemes, it said.

During America's "war on terror," terms like Al Qaeda, outside enemies, jihadists, and Islamic terrorists are interchangeably used to incite fear. Recruited by the CIA and Pakistan's ISI, Al Qaeda or Mujahideen were defenders of Muslim lands against the 1980s Soviet Afghan occupation. At the time, Reagan officials called them a "necessary response" against imperial communism.

In 1998, Zbigniew Brzezinski, Carter's National Security Advisor, confirmed it in an interview, saying:

"....CIA aid to the Mujahideen began during 1980, that is to say, after the Soviet army invaded Afghanistan" in late December 1979. President Carter then "signed the first directive for secret aid to the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul. And that very day, I wrote a note to the President in which I explained to him that in my opinion, this aid was going to induce a Soviet military intervention."

He explained further that America had "the opportunity of giving to the USSR its Vietnam War. Indeed for almost 10 years, Moscow had to carry on a war unsupportable by the government, a conflict that brought about the demoralization and finally the breakup of the Soviet empire."

Key is that Al Qaeda was Washington's invention. Reagan called them freedom fighters. Today, under any name, they're "terrorists," innocent Americans wrongfully charged with supporting them, mostly through entrapment stings producing no evidence besides what paid FBI informants say. It's their word against suspects, as well as illegally taped conversations, innocent comments from them made to sound incriminating.

"How Do People Become Violent Jihadists," CRS asked? Charismatic "(i)ntermediaries, social networks, the Internet, and prisons" play key roles...."

Plots enumerated include:

(1) "Endgames," involving individuals wanting to become foreign fighters in conflict zones;

(2) Suicide or Martyrdom" by violent jihad;

(3) "Success of Lone Wolves," unconnected to others; and

(4) "Divergent Capabilities," their experience ranging from little to considerable.

CRS also explained how to combat homegrown "jihad" through counterterrorism, laws like the USA Patriot Act, domestic intelligence, illegal surveillance not called that, and working jointly with state and local authorities, among other ways. It concluded with a national strategy called a "Whole of Government Approach," coordinating across departments and agencies at all levels of government. An appendix then named names, dates, and "plots."

What the report omits says more than it offered. It explained nothing about US imperial wars, state terrorism on a global scale, its toll in the many millions, besides targeted homeland victims - innocent men and women, wrongfully targeted and imprisoned, reports like CRS' suggesting otherwise.

New Justice Department (DOJ) Targeted Victims

On November 2, a DOJ press release headlined "Three California Men Charged with Conspiracy to Provide Material Support to al Shabaab," saying:

"San Diego residents Basaaly Saeed Moalin, Mohamed Mohamed Mahamud, aka Mohamed Khadar, and Issa Doreh were charged today with conspiracy to provide material support to terrorists, conspiracy to provide material support to a foreign terrorist organization, conspiracy to kill in a foreign country, and related offenses...."

An unsealed October 22 indictment called Al-Shabaab "a violent and brutal militia group in Somalia." More on them below, a group the State Department falsely designated a foreign terrorist organization (FTO) in February 2008.

Charges alleged that Moalin "was in direct telephone contact with Aden Hashi Ayrow," a so-called "prominent (Al-Shabaab) military leader....Ayrow requested money from Moalin, who then coordinated the fundraising efforts and money transfers with Mohamud and Doreh."

The indictment also alleged that Moalin provided a house in Somalia, "knowing (it) would be used in preparation for, and to carry out, a conspiracy to kill persons in a foreign country."

He was arrested on October 31, Mohamud and Doreh on November 1. All pleaded not guilty. They're being held without bail. Moalin's lawyer, Marc Geller, said he's seen no evidence that his client, a local cab driver with no prior record, had any involvement whatever.

About 50 local community members appeared in federal court to show support, believing the three men are innocent. One man, Ali Mohamed, said Moalin taught weekend classes on Islam at a local mosque and is considered a leader of the local Somali community. Apparently it led to his indictment.

"He would tell youngsters to stay away from drugs and gangs," he said. "It's shocking to hear this case against him (and the others). I don't understand why there are people in the street who commit violence while the people who stay in the mosques and pray are being attacked."

Edgar Hopida, of San Diego's Council on American-Islamic Relations, said the arrests put the local Somali community on edge. His organization informs them of their rights, ones very much in jeopardy.

"The Somali community is very fearful that their community is under attack," Hopida explained. "The Somalis who have come here are refugees from a war-torn country and the vast majority" oppose terrorism. In fact, a US-sponsored resettlement program arranged for most to come here, nearly all from the 87,000 community.

Last August, 14 Minnesota, California and Alabama Muslims were also indicted for allegedly supporting a "deadly pipeline," sending money and fighters to Al- Shabaab. Seven from Minnesota were previously charged.

On November 3, another DOJ press release headlined, "Two Indicted in Missouri on Charges of Providing Material Support to a Terrorist Organization. A Third Defendant is Charged with Structuring Violations," saying:

"St. Louis resident Mohamud Abdi Yusuf has been indicted and arrested on four charges of providing material support to a designated terrorist organization and one charge of conspiracy to structure financial transactions....Minneapolis resident Abdi Mahdi Hussein was also indicted and arrested on a charge of conspiracy to structure financial transactions."

The unsealed October 21 indictment alleged that "from February 2009 through at least July 2009, Yusuf and a third defendant, Duwayne Mohamed Diriye, a resident of Kenya and Somalia, were involved in a conspiracy to provide funds to al Shabaab...."

Other allegations cited "using fictitious names and telephone numbers to conceal the nature of their activities. Yusuf is also charged with conspiring with Abdi Mahdi Hussein, an employee of a licensed money remitting business (Qaran Financial Express), to structure financial transactions to avoid record keeping requirements."

Yusuf was arrested on November 1 in St. Louis, Hussein on November 2 in Minneapolis. Still at large, Diiriye is thought either to be in Kenya or Somalia. He's charged with one felony count each of "conspiracy to provide material support to a designated foreign terrorist organization and providing material support to a designated foreign terrorist organization." These charges are commonly used when no evidence of any crime exists, likely the case this time, as well as for the San Diego suspects.

Charges against Yusuf and Hussein say they solicited funds within and outside the Eastern District of Missouri, then arranged for transfer to Al-Shabaab. Diriye is then alleged to have arranged their delivery.

Reporting on the case on November 3, AP writers Jim Suhr and Amy Forliti cited Kulane Darman, president of Qaran Financial Express (QFE), saying he doesn't know Hussein, and the DOJ information is incorrect.

QFE is a remittance company for immigrants or migrants who wish to send money home to family members. It transmits funds mainly to Somalia, Kenya, Ethiopia, Djibouti, and Uganda through offices in seven states, including Minnesota, home to America's largest Somali immigrant population, numbering over 32,000.

A Profile of Al-Shabaab

An earlier article explained that on the Horn of Africa, Somalia is strategically adjacent to the Red Sea, Suez Canal, and vital commercial waterways. In the north, it also abuts Sudan, a country rich in oil and gas reserves, coveted by America, China, India and other nations.

In December 2006, Washington-backed Ethiopian forces unseated the governing Union of Islamic Courts (UIC), installing a Transitional Federal Government (TFG) in its place. Thousands were killed. Over a million became refugees. Ever since, conflict continued, Al- Shabaab wanting it freed from foreign invaders, much like the Taliban struggle in Afghanistan.

In January 2009, Ethiopian forces withdrew, following an agreement between the TFG and Alliance for the Re-Liberation of Somalia (ARS) - a UIC coalition with other opposition forces. Fighting, however, continued, America backing the TRG/African Union Blue Helmets to keep Islamists from regaining power.

UIC members aren't terrorists connected to Al Qaeda. They're freedom fighters, struggling to liberate their country after years of US-instigated conflict, divisions and instability. Their ranks include moderate and radical Islamists as well as politicians and militants, united for a common cause.

Mogadishu traders initially established a UIC coalition with opposition elements to end clan divisions and bring order to the city's instability. Years of civil war left no stable government in most parts of the country. Al- Shabaab and other opposition forces continue the struggle against the US-installed government, Ethiopian backers, and African Union force. They also call themselves the Mjuahideen Youth Movement (MYM).

According to the US National Counterterrorism Center:

"Since the end of 2006, (Al-Shabaab) led a violent insurgency, using guerrilla warfare and terror tactics against the continued Ethiopian presence in Somalia, the Transitional Federal Government of Somalia, and (NGOs)."

As a result, on February 29, 2008, the US State Department designated it a Foreign Terrorist Organization (FTO) under Section 219 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (as amended) and as a Specially Designated Global Terrorist under Section 1(b) of George Bush's September 23, 2001 Executive Order 13224 (as amended). It authorized ways to disrupt financial support for FTOs by blocking assets of individuals or groups alleged to commit, or pose risks to commit, terrorist acts.

Like US-funded and backed Afghan Mujaheddin in the 1980s, Al-Shabaab wants Somalia freed from the US-backed TFG government and African Union paramilitaries (AMISOM Blue Helmets). Washington calls them terrorists, Somali US refugees thus victimized.

Stephen Lendman lives in Chicago and can be reached at lendmanstephen@sbcglobal.net. Also visit his blog site at sjlendman.blogspot.com and listen to cutting-edge discussions with distinguished guests on the Progressive Radio News Hour on the Progressive Radio Network Thursdays at 10AM US Central time and Saturdays and Sundays at noon. All programs are archived for easy listening.

http://www.progressiveradionetwork.com/the-progressive-news-hour/.

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#7. To: tom007 (#3)

Turtle and his outlook will serve to provide the next war that we as humans seem condemened to perpetuate.

Pretty powerful guy this Turtle is I guess. Just him and his outlook will provide the next war? Even if the next war is say between Japan and Russia/China or maybe India and Pakistan, Israel and Iran?

Bill Crowe  posted on  2010-11-08   0:27:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Bill Crowe (#7)

Pretty powerful guy this Turtle is I guess. Just him and his outlook will provide the next war? Even if the next war is say between Japan and Russia/China or maybe India and Pakistan, Israel and Iran?

Just him and his outlook will provide the next war?

Yeppers - you have insight and thought.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2010-11-08   0:43:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: tom007 (#8)

Turtle and his outlook will serve to provide the next war that we as humans seem condemened to perpetuate.

You said it, not me.

Bill Crowe  posted on  2010-11-08   19:31:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: tom007 (#8)

Pretty powerful guy this Turtle is I guess.

The next World War is set in stone.

As for Turtle, one has to view him from a distance, weigh his words well, for he masks an excellent intellect.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-08   19:47:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Cynicom (#10)

The next World War is set in stone.

Will you stand up and fight?

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-08   19:58:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: buckeroo (#11)

Will you stand up and fight?

Did that once, didnt like it, did get home with my skin intact.

My brother did not make it home.

And you????

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-08   20:00:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Cynicom (#12)

"Don't shoot until you see the white of their eyes," is credited to American Revolutionary War Colonel William Prescott, who commanded the Boston colonists against British troops at the Battle of Breed's Hill June 16-17, 1775.

I only have one problem with this statement.... everyone has white of and about their eyes and unless I can positively identify the enemy, I guess I will continue to practice with paper targets.

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-08   20:14:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: buckeroo (#13)

Answer the question buck, the one you proposed.

I suspect we did our turn afore you were born, now what about you????????

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-08   20:16:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Cynicom (#14)

what about you????????

I am armed to the teeth for home defense. The problem I face is who do I aggressively go after beyond that? I don't know how to answer your question as everyone that I know are nice people that don't wear uniforms and have a mixed colour over-all with various styles of hair-doos and other obvious characteristics.

I guess, I am at a loss in modern society to differentitate friend vs. foe unlike some faux para-military organizations such as the Hutaree. I am out here standing in my field waiting, ready and prepared. You remember the Hutaree, don't you?

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-08   20:40:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Bill Crowe (#9)

Turtle and his outlook will serve to provide the next war that we as humans seem condemened to perpetuate.

You said it, not me.

Eh, Bill, I was sort of aware of that, as I said it.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2010-11-08   20:55:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Cynicom (#10)

As for Turtle, one has to view him from a distance, weigh his words well, for he masks an excellent intellect.

Cynicom posted on 2010-11-08 19:47:35 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

Humor covers many sins.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2010-11-08   20:57:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: buckeroo (#15)

The next World War is set in stone.

Will you stand up and fight?

This is the question buck, not home defense.

You questioned my personal resolve and I told you what I did.

Now what have you done, did you stand up and take your turn somewhere along the line?

If so, that gives me some indication of whether you have a cause to pose such a question.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-08   20:58:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Cynicom (#12)

My brother did not make it home.

m so sorry. I have had a terrible,horrific, tragic, tragic loss recently. My empathy level is maximum.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2010-11-08   20:59:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: tom007 (#17)

Humor covers many sins.

And disguises many attributes.

I have read much of his work over the years.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-08   21:00:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: tom007 (#19)

Tom...

The hurt never goes away.

I fear as WW3 approaches, many here will bear the same burden. Evil men will cause much grief, beyond belief, beyond anything ever known.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-08   21:03:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Cynicom (#20)

Well, I have often treated him to seering satire and he has always borne the friendly insults with good cheer, so T is OK with me.

(I think he likes it)

(I know I would. Besides he does live near Branson Missery, so even ill founded charaterizations might be welcome relief of living in Missery)

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tom007  posted on  2010-11-08   21:05:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Cynicom (#21)

Tom...

The hurt never goes away.

I am slowly coming to realize this.

My beautiful beautiful nineteen yo only son died September 15.

Our lifes are altered forever. My tears will have filled wells.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2010-11-08   21:08:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Cynicom (#18)

You questioned my personal resolve and I told you what I did.

Fine. Why don't you put up a personal webpage on 4um as I did years ago about my general military experiences? You can click on my handle, "buckeroo" on any post I make.

Now what have you done, did you stand up and take your turn somewhere along the line?

I am uglier than a fly sucking crap on a fresh saltine biscuit.

If so, that gives me some indication of whether you have a cause to pose such a question.

Your own doubts, pal.

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-08   21:09:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: tom007 (#22)

(I think he likes it)

Tom...

I have many of 4um posters on lists or categories, Turtle is on one all by himself.

Not because he is good or bad, excellent or poor, but strictly because he is different.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-08   21:10:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: buckeroo (#24)

You questioned my personal resolve and I told you what I did.

Why not answer the question, you proposed it???

Is there some reason you ask it of others but are reluctant to speak of yourself???

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-08   21:11:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: tom007 (#23)

My beautiful beautiful nineteen yo only son died September 15.

WHOA! Sorry to hear that. DAMN.

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-08   21:13:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: buckeroo (#27) (Edited)

yeh.

Suks to be me.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2010-11-08   21:15:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: tom007 (#23)

My beautiful beautiful nineteen yo only son died September 15.

Our lives are altered forever. My tears will have filled wells.

I did not know.

Our heartfelt sympathies go out to you and your family.

Lod  posted on  2010-11-08   21:20:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Cynicom (#26)

In America, who would you really take armed conflict against? You can't realistically answer the question as a private citizen unless your personal life or property were at stake or perhaps you found an aggressive issue on the street in an arbitrary moment wherein you happened to be defended or otherwise capable.

I am not side-stepping your question either. I just play publick discussions with intelligence probably in a similar way as you do.

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-08   21:23:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: tom007 (#23)

Tom...

My brother was 20, and I have tears as I type, even after these many years.

Passing of the olde is life, of the young it is a lifetime of sorrow and grief, unremitting for the family.

May your God be with you, his Mother and with him.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-08   21:28:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: buckeroo (#30)

In America, who would you really take armed conflict against?

I was speaking of WW3 in the original post.

It is coming. One needs to be a student of geopolitics/history to see beyond the horizon.

I lived afore WW2, it was worried about and discussed by everyone for years before it appeared. The same is true now.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-08   21:31:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Cynicom, 4 (#31)

Passing of the olde is life, of the young it is a lifetime of sorrow and grief, unremitting for the family.

True, and well said.

Thank you.

Lod  posted on  2010-11-08   21:31:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Cynicom (#31)

My brother was 20, aMy brother was 20, and I have tears as I type, even after these many years.

My KB is drenched with tears an sighs

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2010-11-08   21:37:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Lod (#33)

True, and well said.

In war, attending memorial services for a dozen young ones at a time is very traumatic. Your own age, gone. Forever. One never forgets.

Alcohol was ones only friend.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-08   21:43:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: tom007, Cynicom, all (#34)

My KB is drenched with tears an sighs

While we all weep for those who have gone ahead of us, just remember, they are already there where we will be with them one day.

Let not our hearts be heavy.

Lod  posted on  2010-11-08   21:43:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Cynicom (#32)

I was speaking of WW3 in the original post.

Me, too. There is nothing to address in an aggressive way. And after WW3 there shall be WW4.

It is coming. One needs to be a student of geopolitics/history to see beyond the horizon.

And, while you are still walking on Earth are you going to stand up on a personal basis to modify any attribute about it? As an opinion, none of us can. War is written into our DNA as humans and the more people, the more wars and more than just the number of wars: the more severe and long-lasting wars are going to be.

I lived afore WW2, it was worried about and discussed by everyone for years before it appeared. The same is true now.

Since WW2, with the advent of the UN, WW3 has always been an issue.

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-08   21:43:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Lod (#36)

Let not our hearts be heavy.

Thanks, but my heart has a hatchet in it. And it is never coming out.

May 7 he came to me sick, 52 days in the Oncology ward and September he died.

I nearly can say I hate life - but not quite.

I am not suicidal, never was any more than the rest of you, but one morning when I was opening our store...handling the weapons.... in my hand...I thought....ninety seconds this will be over...

A beautiful handsome nineteen year old boy, six foot seven boy, 225 pounds - the girls were wild for him, and he was such a gentile concerned young man.

Sue and I will never get over this. Never. Ever.

Leukemia type M-4. A killer.

We are trying to know how to deal with this.

We put our store up for sale at a distressed price, as we are distressed.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2010-11-08   22:12:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: All (#38)

Glad I cheered everybody up.

I had not mentioned this horrific affair before, but this is the cruel reality that we have endured.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2010-11-08   22:16:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: tom007 (#39)

How did your son die?

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-08   22:18:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: tom007 (#39)

Glad I cheered everybody up.

I had not mentioned this horrific affair before, but this is the cruel reality that we have endured.

Actually you did all of us a good service.

It brings us all back to reality, it grounds us once more in respect for life, respect for others, and most importantly caring for others.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-08   22:32:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: tom007, Lod (#39)

Tom...

Benjamin Franklin at the Convention requesting a daily prayer which was denied.

"I have lived, Sir, a long time, and the longer I live, the more convincing proofs I see of this truth- that God Governs in the affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without his notice, is it probable that an empire can rise without his aid?"

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-08   22:48:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: tom007, Cynicom, Turdle, Turtle (#17)

As for Turtle, one has to view him from a distance, weigh his words well, for he masks an excellent intellect.

Cynicom posted on 2010-11-08 19:47:35 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

Humor covers many sins.

I still enjoy needling him. I'm a baaaaaaaaaaad boy.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-11-08   22:54:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Original_Intent (#43)

I still enjoy needling him

He thrives on it. One of a kind.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-08   23:00:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: buckeroo (#40)

How did your son die?

Buck this is a cruel question that I know you do not mean it to be.

I am a truthful person. We do not yet have the toxicoligy reports for the official cause.

It would appear that after many days in the oncology unit, and having a 77,000 WBC white blood count (yours is five) he had advanced cancer. With a poor prognosis.

We had taken him to three doctors, and they had prescribed the usual antibotics.

Nobody leaps to the conclusion that somebody that appears to have a cold and is anemic has this killing disease. A thirty five dollar blood test may have done it tho. Maybe not.

When I took my beautiful son to the doc for the third I told them in no uncertian terms we were getting some kind of answer, they ran a blood test, and the tech instantly said - lets go, that night he was admitted to the oncology ward.

Buck - he died because he was going to.

After fifty two days in cancer ward he was released, and was re admmitted into the cancer ward again for more chemo, after a horrific (and I do mean HORRIFIC) term in the cancer ward.

He knew his chances were slim, 77,000 White blood count is a poor prognosis.

So after having heart surgery to have more chemo injected into his poor body, he elected to steal a syringe and buy some vicokin (sop) and, after days of misery, and many other horrors, that I cannot find the will to explain, he, my beautiful son, in the cancer ward, pumped a lethal dose of vicoden into his heart port and killed himself.

The L was going to do in after a while for him.

Sue and I were called to the Hosp. and were fortunate to be there as he died in the Intensive Care Unit of Memorial Hospitial, and we hugged him and petted him, and wept over his body until his body was getting cold and fingernails were getting purple and the coroner's office came for him.

I closed his beautiful eyes with my fingers and my tears fell on his face and hair as did my wife's.

After the paperwork was done - we ware escorted out to our car by a chaplin with a grocery cart with his pathetic little belongings to our car,at midnight, we loaded up his pants, shoes, CDS and hats into our vehicles and left our beautiful sons dead body to the basement of the Hospitial.

And we drove off home.

I know this is far more than you asked.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2010-11-08   23:09:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: tom007 (#45)

Having been through similar I know the pain.

While the loss may cary on, the scab does get a bit thicker.

Just remember, I do sincerely believe this to be true, that although the body dies the spirit that was your son does not. You may well suffer the loss, that is real, and is painful, but although your son's body died the essence that was him did not.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-11-08   23:16:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Original_Intent (#46)

Oi my tear are fallin g water falls

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2010-11-08   23:23:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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