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Title: Question concerning Firefox and browsing history
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Published: Nov 10, 2010
Author: F.A. Hayek Fan
Post Date: 2010-11-10 12:44:44 by F.A. Hayek Fan
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Views: 1224
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I have reason to believe that my 16 y.o. son is looking at porn on his laptop. However, he knows how to go to the history tool bar and delete his browsing history. Is there another way that I can look at the browsing history?

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"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-11-10   14:25:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

If firefox is well written, then it shouldn't be possible to retrieve the history after the history is purged.

Firefox IS well written; still it uses the IE internet cache. So to answer F.A. Hayek Fan's original question, the answer is ABSOLUTELY YES, assuming the IE Internet cache is not also erased.

Reading the IE Internet cache requires a viewer, though.

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-10   14:26:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Firefox IS well written; still it uses the IE internet cache. So to answer F.A. Hayek Fan's original question, the answer is ABSOLUTELY YES, assuming the IE Internet cache is not also erased.

Whatever cache it uses, it obviously erases it, whether it's the MSIE cache or not.

And just off hand, I'd say that if it uses the MSIE cache instead of it's own, then it's NOT well written. On linux, it doesn't use the MSIE cache. (Of course on linux, there is no MSIE cache, unless maybe it's running under WINE).

Pinguinite  posted on  2010-11-10   14:34:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Reading the IE Internet cache requires a viewer, though.

In the past, I've viewed the cache with just a regular window browser. You can't really see the intact HTML pages, but all the images are there, and if the goal is just to see if porn pics are there, you do not need anything special.

Pinguinite  posted on  2010-11-10   14:37:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Whatever cache it uses, it obviously erases it, whether it's the MSIE cache or not.

No it doesn't under Windows and I am assuming F.A. Hayek Fan uses windows. That is why you enjoy Linux. You don't want all those stinking files cluttering up your HDDs while enjoying the simplicity of use.

Typically, you can find your IE cache here: "C:Documents and SettingsAdministratorLocal SettingsTemporary Internet Files" .... again you require a viewer.

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-10   14:41:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I'm with you two on this.

Lod  posted on  2010-11-10   14:44:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

PaulCJ never answered F.A. Hayek Fan's original technical question. So why do you think PaulCJ's moral principles of social conduct or behaviour trump a perfectly good technical question?

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-10   14:49:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

No one said anything about trumping except you.

An observation was made with which Christine and I happen to agree.

I have nothing to contribute to the coding, viewing, IE, Firefox question.

Lod  posted on  2010-11-10   14:58:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

So why do you think PaulCJ's moral principles of social conduct or behaviour trump a perfectly good technical question?

Has FA asks his son directly beforehand about looking at porn? Looking him directly in the eye and ask the question.

To go behind someone's back is not moral. Such hypocrisy is the reason we have so many problems in the world.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-11-10   14:58:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

So why do you think PaulCJ's moral principles of social conduct or behaviour trump a perfectly good technical question?

The Shadow Knows. Bwhahahahahaha!

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-11-10   14:58:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Has FA asks his son directly beforehand about looking at porn? Looking him directly in the eye and ask the question.

To go behind someone's back is not moral. Such hypocrisy is the reason we have so many problems in the world.

Are your questions/considerations pertinent to F.A. Hayek Fan's original technical question? I don't think so.

Your moral considerations are meaningless to F.A. Hayek Fan's considerations. How do you know he hasn't already had the dialogue you discuss? Aren't YOU fabricating HOT_AIRE without addressing the initial point of view by F.A. Hayek Fan?

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-10   15:04:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Attaboy buckie. Speculations based on speculations.

Your logic is flawless.

Totally absent too.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-11-10   15:07:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

How do you know he hasn't already had the dialogue you discuss?

I don't. And neither do you.

But, you would walk in blindly into doing immoral acts, such as going behind people's backs, without asking for details beforehand. While I ask for, and point out details.

I believe in making an "informed decision" before taking action. You do not.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-11-10   15:23:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Attaboy buckie. Speculations based on speculations.

Your logic is flawless.

Totally absent too.

Let's review F.A. Hayek Fan's post:

I have reason to believe that my 16 y.o. son is looking at porn on his laptop. However, he knows how to go to the history tool bar and delete his browsing history. Is there another way that I can look at the browsing history?

He wasn't asking for a moral lecture or advice; he was demonstrating or establishing HIS requirement for technical discussion on a specific detail of interest.

The moral conduct of F.A. Hayek Fan's family is HIS own concern not mine, or yours or Paul, or christine or tom, dick or harry.

And the technical question is justified for more reasons than anyone wants to consider, too. Everywhere on the Internet you go is monitored by several US government agencies; today the issue might be porn; tomorrow it might be making a bomb; it is appropriate that EVERYONE KNOWS HOW TO guard their respective private equipment, especially since the PatriotAct of 2001.

Cleaning your own equipment cache or understanding how it exists is good stuff to know. I am glad F.A. Hayek Fan brought it up.

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-10   15:28:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I don't. And neither do you.

So why did you decide to impose your own moral principles into a technical question?

But, you would walk in blindly into doing immoral acts, such as going behind people's backs, without asking for details beforehand. While I ask for, and point out details.

Sorry charlie, I discussed technical considerations NOT YOU. You imposed some fucked-upped dialogue that is reminiscent of the Spanish Inquisition. And your often spouted moral principals go no-where with me.

Here is your POST#2:

Your son is sixteen years old, if he isn't looking at porn, you should worry.

If it is not rape, snuff, or child porn, don't give yourself a heart attack over it.

You should probably be more worried about the possibility that you son might accidentally get his girlfriend pregnant.

Where did you answer the TECHNICAL question? Ohhhhh, it was too easy to FORCE your moral principals into a pile of blabbering BULLSHIT.

I believe in making an "informed decision" before taking action. You do not.

You don't know diddly-squat.

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-10   15:35:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Let's hope that the kiddies dont find about truecrypt and hidden volumes, using a USB drive to surf off of when the subject matter gets a little too "controversial" etc...

Forget I said that. Just forget it. Dont want to give them any funny ideas.

”I say to each man and woman, you are unique and sovereign, the center of a universe. However right I may be in thinking as I do, you may be equally right in thinking otherwise. You can only accomplish your object in life by complete disregard of the opinions of other people.“ - Aleister Crowley

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-11-10   15:37:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You can view porn online?

Do all of you know about this?

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wakeup  posted on  2010-11-10   16:17:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

So why did you decide to impose your own moral principles into a technical question?

Because "moral principles", or lack there of, were stated within the "technical question" itself.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-11-10   16:20:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Porn?

Online?

Who knew?

Thanks.

Lod  posted on  2010-11-10   16:24:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

A view a day keeps me alert and remembering what life was all about.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-10   16:29:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Because "moral principles", or lack there of, were stated within the "technical question" itself.

You remind me of those anti-constitutionalists that argue about the requirements of and about the Second Amendment.

F.A. Hayek Fan posted an establishment preamble that has only meaning to his technical question. On review:

Here is what F.A. Hayek Fan asked:

I have reason to believe that my 16 y.o. son is looking at porn on his laptop. However, he knows how to go to the history tool bar and delete his browsing history. Is there another way that I can look at the browsing history?

His reasons are his business in establishing a premise. But all you did in post#2 was distract away from his interest.

Now, let's look at the Second Amendment which is largely neglected in the SAME WAY (or contextual argument) you attempted to distract F.A. Hayek Fan's post:

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

You have garbled F.A. Hayek Fan's meaning similar to Handgun Control Inc. You think because of establishing a forward or principle towards the issue permits some sort of distraction.

You are a bumbling, babbling idiot PaulCJ. No wonder you can't get it quite right yet ... you are always distracted because you can't read.

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-10   16:39:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I'm always learning something new and stimulating on 4.

Lod  posted on  2010-11-10   16:44:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

To go behind someone's back is not moral. Such hypocrisy is the reason we have so many problems in the world.

Kind of like talking about someone while having them on your bozo list so that they are unable to respond to you or insisting that others fight and die for the war you support while you sit on the computer in your parents house nice and safe.

You know nothing of morality but are thoroughly familiar with hypocrisy.

I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-11-10   17:29:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Boys who aren't interested in porn turn into serial killers. Relax, he's totally normal.

"If ever this vast country is brought under a single government, it will be one of the most extensive corruption, indifferent and incapable of a wholesome care over so wide a spread of surface. This will not be borne, and you will have to choose between reform and revolution. If I know the spirit of this country, the one or the other is inevitable." - Thomas Jefferson

Turtle  posted on  2010-11-10   17:30:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

i agree with Paul on this one.

I do not believe that I am "having a heart attack over it." Like the overwhelming majority of parents in this country, I do not want my son looking at pornography. He says he isn't, and maybe he's not, but I would like to be sure. 16 year old boys are horny enough without subjecting themselves to pornography everyday.

I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-11-10   17:35:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Boys who aren't interested in porn turn into serial killers. Relax, he's totally normal.

Whether he is normal of not is not the point.

I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-11-10   17:36:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

For those that answered my original question, thank you.

I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-11-10   17:39:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

A view a day keeps me alert and remembering what life was all about.

Sweet Jeebus! We're going to have to change your name to Dirtyom.

Esso  posted on  2010-11-10   17:41:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Sweet Jeebus! We're going to have to change your name to Dirtyom.

Well, I was doin fine til Sir Lod sent me sumpin bad last week.

I had to do the viewing afore I deleted them, dont you know?

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-10   18:10:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

As some judge or justice, once remarked, "I know porn when I see it."

These things bear our personal investigation to see if they are true, or not.

Lod  posted on  2010-11-10   18:16:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

These things bear our personal investigation to see if they are true, or not.

You are leading Esso down the Primrose path, at his early age.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-10   18:20:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Back when sex education was being introduced into the pubic school system, and commenting on the great outcry that arose, some pundit commented, "We don't need any classes on sex education, let'em learn it in the gutter, like I did."

It would have saved us tons of money had his advice been followed.

We only existed for thousands of years without any classroom explanations...

Lod  posted on  2010-11-10   18:34:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

We only existed for thousands of years without any classroom explanations...

Many of my teachers were unable to teach the subjects they were paid to teach.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-10   18:37:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Don't worry, Dad. Until the internet shows some potential beyond simple text, I'll stick with my dial-up connection.

I don't really care for all that video crap anyway. Makes the internet too much like TeeVee for my taste.

Esso  posted on  2010-11-10   18:40:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I shot my TV years ago, b est thing I ever did.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-10   18:46:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

As was said, don't knock it, 'till you've tried it.

After having ATT's semi-fast 5mbs, I'm going to go with TW cable, and hope to get 20, or better.

The cost is the same, it will just require some cabling to the machine.

Lod  posted on  2010-11-10   19:13:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You remind me of those anti-constitutionalists that argue about the requirements of and about the Second Amendment.

You remind me of those rabid teachers that were more concerned with disciplining children, than teaching children.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-11-10   19:21:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You know nothing of morality but are thoroughly familiar with hypocrisy.

You are ignorant of both.

It you have a possible problem, you face it directly, eye to eye. Any other way ends in tragedy.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-11-10   19:25:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You remind me of those rabid teachers that were more concerned with disciplining children, than teaching children.

Lets take another peek at your own #2 post, shall we?

Your son is sixteen years old, if he isn't looking at porn, you should worry.

If it is not rape, snuff, or child porn, don't give yourself a heart attack over it.

You should probably be more worried about the possibility that you son might accidentally get his girlfriend pregnant.

You are a fool, PaulCJ. What do want me to do on the Internet, beg a bailiff to whack your pee-pee (borrowed cliché from Arlo Guthrie's infamous ... Alice's Restaurant)?

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-10   19:32:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Sorry to ask you another question. Why do some posts on 4um run outside the margins requiring one to scan back and forth to read them? When this happens, I just forget that post and the replys and move on. To me they are a waste of banwidth and a persons time.

LACUMO  posted on  2010-11-10   19:38:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

As some judge or justice, once remarked, "I know porn when I see it."

These things bear our personal investigation to see if they are true, or not.

You know you are getting up there when you remember jokes dependent upon obsolete technology.

"But gee, I don't even own a Pornograph."

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-11-10   20:03:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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