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Title: Question concerning Firefox and browsing history
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Published: Nov 10, 2010
Author: F.A. Hayek Fan
Post Date: 2010-11-10 12:44:44 by F.A. Hayek Fan
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I have reason to believe that my 16 y.o. son is looking at porn on his laptop. However, he knows how to go to the history tool bar and delete his browsing history. Is there another way that I can look at the browsing history?

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These things bear our personal investigation to see if they are true, or not.

You are leading Esso down the Primrose path, at his early age.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-10   18:20:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Back when sex education was being introduced into the pubic school system, and commenting on the great outcry that arose, some pundit commented, "We don't need any classes on sex education, let'em learn it in the gutter, like I did."

It would have saved us tons of money had his advice been followed.

We only existed for thousands of years without any classroom explanations...

Lod  posted on  2010-11-10   18:34:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

We only existed for thousands of years without any classroom explanations...

Many of my teachers were unable to teach the subjects they were paid to teach.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-10   18:37:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Don't worry, Dad. Until the internet shows some potential beyond simple text, I'll stick with my dial-up connection.

I don't really care for all that video crap anyway. Makes the internet too much like TeeVee for my taste.

Esso  posted on  2010-11-10   18:40:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I shot my TV years ago, b est thing I ever did.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-10   18:46:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

As was said, don't knock it, 'till you've tried it.

After having ATT's semi-fast 5mbs, I'm going to go with TW cable, and hope to get 20, or better.

The cost is the same, it will just require some cabling to the machine.

Lod  posted on  2010-11-10   19:13:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You remind me of those anti-constitutionalists that argue about the requirements of and about the Second Amendment.

You remind me of those rabid teachers that were more concerned with disciplining children, than teaching children.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-11-10   19:21:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You know nothing of morality but are thoroughly familiar with hypocrisy.

You are ignorant of both.

It you have a possible problem, you face it directly, eye to eye. Any other way ends in tragedy.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-11-10   19:25:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You remind me of those rabid teachers that were more concerned with disciplining children, than teaching children.

Lets take another peek at your own #2 post, shall we?

Your son is sixteen years old, if he isn't looking at porn, you should worry.

If it is not rape, snuff, or child porn, don't give yourself a heart attack over it.

You should probably be more worried about the possibility that you son might accidentally get his girlfriend pregnant.

You are a fool, PaulCJ. What do want me to do on the Internet, beg a bailiff to whack your pee-pee (borrowed cliché from Arlo Guthrie's infamous ... Alice's Restaurant)?

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-10   19:32:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Sorry to ask you another question. Why do some posts on 4um run outside the margins requiring one to scan back and forth to read them? When this happens, I just forget that post and the replys and move on. To me they are a waste of banwidth and a persons time.

LACUMO  posted on  2010-11-10   19:38:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

As some judge or justice, once remarked, "I know porn when I see it."

These things bear our personal investigation to see if they are true, or not.

You know you are getting up there when you remember jokes dependent upon obsolete technology.

"But gee, I don't even own a Pornograph."

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-11-10   20:03:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Why do some posts on 4um run outside the margins requiring one to scan back and forth to read them?

Because some element in such articles or threads are not subject to proper wrapping, such as very wide pictures or, sometimes, web addresses that are a mile long. Browsers routinely expand a view window beyond the screen width in those cases, and then set word wrapping of text at that width.

To deal with it with the software would require some fancy stuff beyond ordinary HTML. It's really the responsibility of the person posting to watch out for that, but it shouldn't be a big problem as ordinary content, with photos or not, shouldn't do that.

When this happens, I just forget that post and the replys and move on. To me they are a waste of banwidth and a persons time.

I agree.

Pinguinite  posted on  2010-11-10   20:46:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You are a fool, PaulCJ. What do want me to do on the Internet, beg a bailiff to whack your pee-pee (borrowed cliché from Arlo Guthrie's infamous ... Alice's Restaurant)?

I understand human nature. And I was pointing out, barring a few exceptions, this was not as bad as some would think.

There are far, far worse things than porn.

And two others people on this board agree with me.

buckeroo, grow up and realize that people are human beings, and not walking robots with no emotions.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-11-10   21:18:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

beg a bailiff to whack your pee-pee (borrowed cliché from Arlo Guthrie's infamous ... Alice's Restaurant)?

That was a Cheech and Chong piece, I believe it was "Trippin in Court." The judge said "Bailiff, whack his pee-pee!"

Bill Crowe  posted on  2010-11-10   21:29:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

buckeroo, grow up and realize that people are human beings, and not walking robots with no emotions.

Sure.. the framework of F.A. Hayek Fan's original post weas fairly simple to read:

I have reason to believe that my 16 y.o. son is looking at porn on his laptop. However, he knows how to go to the history tool bar and delete his browsing history. Is there another way that I can look at the browsing history?

And you attempted to clobber F.A. Hayek Fan in post #2:

Your son is sixteen years old, if he isn't looking at porn, you should worry.

If it is not rape, snuff, or child porn, don't give yourself a heart attack over it.

You should probably be more worried about the possibility that you son might accidentally get his girlfriend pregnant.

You are a laff a minute, pal. You are diversionary to this thread similar to both the Republicans or Democrats attempting to impose some sort of POWER trip under the guise of moral principle... you are kinda like GWBush begging for a "compassionate conservatives".

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-10   21:41:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

It you have a possible problem, you face it directly, eye to eye. Any other way ends in tragedy.

You have zero idea of what you are talking about. You assume that because I asked the question about Firefox that I did not speak with my son about the subject. That is an assumption based upon no facts whatsoever. However, you are dead wrong. I did ask. We had long talk about the subject. However I am a proponent of trust and verify and I don't give a shit if some immoral neocon such as yourself approves or not.

I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-11-10   21:52:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I understand human nature. And I was pointing out, barring a few exceptions, this was not as bad as some would think.

There are far, far worse things than porn.

And two others people on this board agree with me.

buckeroo, grow up and realize that people are human beings, and not walking robots with no emotions.

Regardless of what you and others on this board believe, the overwhelming majority of parents do not approve of their children viewing pornography on the internet.

I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-11-10   21:57:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I'm thinking that PaulCJ is either teenage boy or a pedophile who lures teenage boys to his home by using pornography.

I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-11-10   22:00:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

you are correct. the guy asked a technical question. everyone piping in about how a porn addiction is good for his son and how a parent has no moral right to monitor their children are insane whackos. the end, no further bickering needed. Next?

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2010-11-10   22:17:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

To deal with it with the software would require some fancy stuff beyond ordinary HTML. It's really the responsibility of the person posting to watch out for that, but it shouldn't be a big problem as ordinary content, with photos or not, shouldn't do that.

Thank you!

LACUMO  posted on  2010-11-10   22:19:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Next?

How come libertarians aren't considered responsible both personally, family, business and socially and yet the well-practised democrats and their own counter-parts, the republicans, are?

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-10   22:23:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You know you are getting up there when you remember jokes dependent upon obsolete technology.

Good point.

To quote the oldies, you're either an oldie, or very, very, well read.

I'll cop to the former, and some of the latter.

Lod  posted on  2010-11-10   22:33:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

i am almost leery of identifying myself as a libertarian. people like schwarzenegger, socialist statists who like fag 'marriage' & killing unborn babies are referred to as libertarians. they are disgusting as that gary nolan character who thinks he has hope for the presidency. i prefer the label paleoconservative. most people never heard of that though. it will confuse them.much of the general public, when they hear the term libertarian, conjure up someone who they think just doesnt like rules.

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2010-11-10   22:35:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I'm thinking that PaulCJ is either teenage boy or a pedophile who lures teenage boys to his home by using pornography.

Says the person whom states family matters publicly.

You asked two questions, in one question. You indirectly asked if it was okay to go behind your son's back, otherwise, you have just asks how to get a history folder back without giving details.

If you think your son is looking at porn, be a man and ask him directly. Don't go behind his back.

He is sixteen, according you. Legally speaking, if he committed a crime, he would be charged as an adult.

The government considers him mature enough to know right and wrong from a legal standpoint. I will hold him to the same standard.

This is not a ten year old we are talking about.

The hard fact is, at sixteen, if a boy is not thinking about girls and sex at least occasionally, there is something SERIOUSLY wrong with him.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-11-10   22:46:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

i am almost leery of identifying myself as a libertarian.

And, as a result, you are afraid of individual rights, liberties and freedoms while clinging onto gossip, innuendo and mass paranoia.

Or, did you mean something else and I interpreted your perspective incorrectly?

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-10   22:47:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You asked two questions, in one question. You indirectly asked if it was okay to go behind your son's back, otherwise, you have just asks how to get a history folder back without giving details.

I asked one question and one question only. If I had wanted to know the opinion of a moral degenerate such as yourself I would have asked for your opinion.

If you think your son is looking at porn, be a man and ask him directly. Don't go behind his back.

You go from making unfounded assumptions based on no facts whatsoever to outright accusations based on no facts whatsoever.

He is sixteen, according you. Legally speaking, if he committed a crime, he would be charged as an adult.

The government considers him mature enough to know right and wrong from a legal standpoint. I will hold him to the same standard.

This is not a ten year old we are talking about.

The hard fact is, at sixteen, if a boy is not thinking about girls and sex at least occasionally, there is something SERIOUSLY wrong with him.

The law does not consider a 16 year old boy old enough to view pornography. Neither do I. The fact that you do matters not a whit.

I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-11-10   22:58:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

the libertarian label in the mind of the average american conjures up an ideology that is not consistent with my own. hence if i tell someone im a libertarian, i explain that simply means i support liberty. that does not mean i am afraid of freedom. it means that most people dont even know what the term means.

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2010-11-10   23:00:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Regardless of what you and others on this board believe, the overwhelming majority of parents do not approve of their children viewing pornography on the internet.

You really don't get what I am saying to you. It isn't the porn I am talking about. It is the going behind the back of you son that is the problem.

This is how the mentality of those in government thinking it alright to spy on on people of their own nation gets started. It is a lack of trust. A lack of trust that starts a home.

A lack of trust where people don't have the courage to

You want to invade someone else privacy.

That is no difference between immorality a cop searching a person's home, and a parent searching their teenager.

You want to get proof before confronting you son, because you don't trust you son AT ALL!

Because you believe the government commercials that it is okay invade someone else's privacy.

This is how some of the major problems in our nation got started. A COMPLETE LACK OF TRUST AT HOME!!

This level of decay in the morality of this nation disgusts me.

You ask your son point blank, weather he is looking at porn, without going behind his back, one of two things will happen.

Either he will admit to you, and you can discuss, like a parent and child should.

Or, he will lie. If he lies to you, he will likely quit looking at porn for a while.

If you present that you went behind his back, you will have a make argument with your son that will likely lead to more problems THAT ARE WORSE THAN WHAT YOU WORRY ABOUT NOW!!

You son may need you in a life or death situation for himself in the future, and if he cannot trust you now, he will not trust you then, which will make the situation he will be in worse.

I watched my younger brother sever all ties with my family due to a situation like what you are creating.

I saw how it started, I don't want to see that happen again.

I miss him a lot, but there is no way I can contact him.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-11-10   23:04:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

the libertarian label in the mind of the average american conjures up an ideology that is not consistent with my own. hence if i tell someone im a libertarian, i explain that simply means i support liberty. that does not mean i am afraid of freedom. it means that most people dont even know what the term means.

That was an excellent post, Artisan.

You explained why many of us are so ashamedly meek and afraid to step out and voice a personal opinion.

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-10   23:13:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You have a severe reading comprehension problem. I stated back in my post 29 to Christine that I had talked to him. I also told you that I already talked to him in post 50, yet you keep on making these nonsensical accusations.

This level of decay in the morality of this nation disgusts me.

LOL! You are defending a child's ability to look at pornography unmolested and you want to talk about the decay of morality?

You are a nut job, plain and simple.

I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-11-10   23:14:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You ask your son point blank, weather [sic] he is looking at porn, without going behind his back, one of two things will happen.

Either he will admit to you, and you can discuss, like a parent and child should.

Or, he will lie. If he lies to you, he will likely quit looking at porn for a while.

How do you know there are only two ways of presentation? You have no facts at all. Suppose F.A. Hayek Fan's next door neighbour or his own son's girl-friend came sneaking into the son's room wanting to use the laptop for their own carnal sins? HELL, perhaps it was your own wife (PaulCJ) because you don't give her any Good&Plenty?

As is always, you have two ways of looking at things... and there is an entire spectrum of considerations that are beyond your own capabilities to grasp.

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-10   23:40:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You are defending a child's ability to look at pornography unmolested and you want to talk about the decay of morality?

You really don't understand what I am saying.

The moral decay in the nation is a lack of trust at every level, and that begins at home.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-11-10   23:48:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

How do you know there are only two ways of presentation? You have no facts at all. Suppose F.A. Hayek Fan's next door neighbour or his own son's girl-friend came sneaking into the son's room wanting to use the laptop for their own carnal sins? HELL, perhaps it was your own wife (PaulCJ) because you don't give her any Good&Plenty?

As is always, you have two ways of looking at things... and there is an entire spectrum of considerations that are beyond your own capabilities to grasp.

Your lack of skills in reading is showing.

The first post I made on this thread I stated: You should probably be more worried about the possibility that you son might accidentally get his girlfriend pregnant.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-11-10   23:50:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The moral decay in the nation is a lack of trust at every level, and that begins at home.

Who the HELL are you to suggest that idea? Do you think you lead some sort of moral life and does your family abide by your observations?

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-10   23:54:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You posted two ways of looking at a possible problem. I say your methods are fallacious; you are ridiculous and you don't know what you are talking about.

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-10   23:55:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Countermeasures would be installing some kind of spyware. A simple one would just copy the browser cache every 5 mins to some alternate place where it wouldn't get purged by firefox.

Very similar to what I told him privately.

Tough women come from New York, sweet women from Texas, prissy women from Southern California, but we NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood. We can ride 4-wheelers, be a princess, throw a left hook, pack heat, hunt with the men, bake a cake, love with passion, and if we have an opinion, you know you're going to hear it!!

farmfriend  posted on  2010-11-10   23:59:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

After having ATT's semi-fast 5mbs, I'm going to go with TW cable, and hope to get 20, or better.

I love my cable. I'll cut my food to crackers and water before I cut my cable.

Tough women come from New York, sweet women from Texas, prissy women from Southern California, but we NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood. We can ride 4-wheelers, be a princess, throw a left hook, pack heat, hunt with the men, bake a cake, love with passion, and if we have an opinion, you know you're going to hear it!!

farmfriend  posted on  2010-11-11   0:06:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

How come libertarians aren't considered responsible both personally, family, business and socially and yet the well-practised democrats and their own counter-parts, the republicans, are?

Now there is a profound question. One to which I would like an answer.

Tough women come from New York, sweet women from Texas, prissy women from Southern California, but we NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood. We can ride 4-wheelers, be a princess, throw a left hook, pack heat, hunt with the men, bake a cake, love with passion, and if we have an opinion, you know you're going to hear it!!

farmfriend  posted on  2010-11-11   0:12:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Who the HELL are you to suggest that idea? Do you think you lead some sort of moral life and does your family abide by your observations?

So you believe that honesty and trust are outdated concepts?

All your preaching of "morality" and you don't even understand the meaning of the word.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-11-11   0:14:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

i prefer the label paleoconservative. most people never heard of that though. it will confuse them.much of the general public, when they hear the term libertarian, conjure up someone who they think just doesnt like rules.

I prefer the term classic liberal as that is the true label.

Classical liberalism

Classical liberalism is a political ideology that developed in the nineteenth century in Western Europe, and the Americas. It was committed to the ideal of limited government and liberty of individuals including freedom of religion, speech, press, assembly, and free markets.[1] It drew on the economics of Adam Smith, a psychological understanding of individual liberty, natural law and utilitarianism, and a belief in progress. Classical liberals established political parties that were called "liberal", although in the United States classical liberalism came to dominate both existing major political parties.[1]

Although classical liberalism built on ideas that had already developed by the end of the eighteenth century, it advocated a specific kind of society, government and public policy required as a result of the Industrial Revolution and urbanization.[2] Notable individuals who have contributed to classical liberalism include Jean-Baptiste Say, Thomas Malthus, and David Ricardo.[3] There was a revival of interest in classical liberalism in the twentieth century led by Friedrich Hayek and Milton Friedman.[4]

The term classical liberalism was applied in retrospect to distinguish earlier nineteenth-century liberalism from the newer social liberalism.[5] The phrase classical liberalism is also sometimes used to refer to all forms of liberalism before the twentieth century, and some conservatives and libertarians use the term classical liberalism to describe their belief in the primacy of economic freedom and minimal government. It is not always clear which meaning is intended.

Tough women come from New York, sweet women from Texas, prissy women from Southern California, but we NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood. We can ride 4-wheelers, be a princess, throw a left hook, pack heat, hunt with the men, bake a cake, love with passion, and if we have an opinion, you know you're going to hear it!!

farmfriend  posted on  2010-11-11   0:16:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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