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Title: Question concerning Firefox and browsing history
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Published: Nov 10, 2010
Author: F.A. Hayek Fan
Post Date: 2010-11-10 12:44:44 by F.A. Hayek Fan
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Views: 1264
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I have reason to believe that my 16 y.o. son is looking at porn on his laptop. However, he knows how to go to the history tool bar and delete his browsing history. Is there another way that I can look at the browsing history?

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I understand human nature. And I was pointing out, barring a few exceptions, this was not as bad as some would think.

There are far, far worse things than porn.

And two others people on this board agree with me.

buckeroo, grow up and realize that people are human beings, and not walking robots with no emotions.

Regardless of what you and others on this board believe, the overwhelming majority of parents do not approve of their children viewing pornography on the internet.

I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-11-10   21:57:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I'm thinking that PaulCJ is either teenage boy or a pedophile who lures teenage boys to his home by using pornography.

I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-11-10   22:00:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

you are correct. the guy asked a technical question. everyone piping in about how a porn addiction is good for his son and how a parent has no moral right to monitor their children are insane whackos. the end, no further bickering needed. Next?

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2010-11-10   22:17:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

To deal with it with the software would require some fancy stuff beyond ordinary HTML. It's really the responsibility of the person posting to watch out for that, but it shouldn't be a big problem as ordinary content, with photos or not, shouldn't do that.

Thank you!

LACUMO  posted on  2010-11-10   22:19:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Next?

How come libertarians aren't considered responsible both personally, family, business and socially and yet the well-practised democrats and their own counter-parts, the republicans, are?

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-10   22:23:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You know you are getting up there when you remember jokes dependent upon obsolete technology.

Good point.

To quote the oldies, you're either an oldie, or very, very, well read.

I'll cop to the former, and some of the latter.

Lod  posted on  2010-11-10   22:33:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

i am almost leery of identifying myself as a libertarian. people like schwarzenegger, socialist statists who like fag 'marriage' & killing unborn babies are referred to as libertarians. they are disgusting as that gary nolan character who thinks he has hope for the presidency. i prefer the label paleoconservative. most people never heard of that though. it will confuse them.much of the general public, when they hear the term libertarian, conjure up someone who they think just doesnt like rules.

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2010-11-10   22:35:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I'm thinking that PaulCJ is either teenage boy or a pedophile who lures teenage boys to his home by using pornography.

Says the person whom states family matters publicly.

You asked two questions, in one question. You indirectly asked if it was okay to go behind your son's back, otherwise, you have just asks how to get a history folder back without giving details.

If you think your son is looking at porn, be a man and ask him directly. Don't go behind his back.

He is sixteen, according you. Legally speaking, if he committed a crime, he would be charged as an adult.

The government considers him mature enough to know right and wrong from a legal standpoint. I will hold him to the same standard.

This is not a ten year old we are talking about.

The hard fact is, at sixteen, if a boy is not thinking about girls and sex at least occasionally, there is something SERIOUSLY wrong with him.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-11-10   22:46:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

i am almost leery of identifying myself as a libertarian.

And, as a result, you are afraid of individual rights, liberties and freedoms while clinging onto gossip, innuendo and mass paranoia.

Or, did you mean something else and I interpreted your perspective incorrectly?

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-10   22:47:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You asked two questions, in one question. You indirectly asked if it was okay to go behind your son's back, otherwise, you have just asks how to get a history folder back without giving details.

I asked one question and one question only. If I had wanted to know the opinion of a moral degenerate such as yourself I would have asked for your opinion.

If you think your son is looking at porn, be a man and ask him directly. Don't go behind his back.

You go from making unfounded assumptions based on no facts whatsoever to outright accusations based on no facts whatsoever.

He is sixteen, according you. Legally speaking, if he committed a crime, he would be charged as an adult.

The government considers him mature enough to know right and wrong from a legal standpoint. I will hold him to the same standard.

This is not a ten year old we are talking about.

The hard fact is, at sixteen, if a boy is not thinking about girls and sex at least occasionally, there is something SERIOUSLY wrong with him.

The law does not consider a 16 year old boy old enough to view pornography. Neither do I. The fact that you do matters not a whit.

I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-11-10   22:58:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

the libertarian label in the mind of the average american conjures up an ideology that is not consistent with my own. hence if i tell someone im a libertarian, i explain that simply means i support liberty. that does not mean i am afraid of freedom. it means that most people dont even know what the term means.

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2010-11-10   23:00:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Regardless of what you and others on this board believe, the overwhelming majority of parents do not approve of their children viewing pornography on the internet.

You really don't get what I am saying to you. It isn't the porn I am talking about. It is the going behind the back of you son that is the problem.

This is how the mentality of those in government thinking it alright to spy on on people of their own nation gets started. It is a lack of trust. A lack of trust that starts a home.

A lack of trust where people don't have the courage to

You want to invade someone else privacy.

That is no difference between immorality a cop searching a person's home, and a parent searching their teenager.

You want to get proof before confronting you son, because you don't trust you son AT ALL!

Because you believe the government commercials that it is okay invade someone else's privacy.

This is how some of the major problems in our nation got started. A COMPLETE LACK OF TRUST AT HOME!!

This level of decay in the morality of this nation disgusts me.

You ask your son point blank, weather he is looking at porn, without going behind his back, one of two things will happen.

Either he will admit to you, and you can discuss, like a parent and child should.

Or, he will lie. If he lies to you, he will likely quit looking at porn for a while.

If you present that you went behind his back, you will have a make argument with your son that will likely lead to more problems THAT ARE WORSE THAN WHAT YOU WORRY ABOUT NOW!!

You son may need you in a life or death situation for himself in the future, and if he cannot trust you now, he will not trust you then, which will make the situation he will be in worse.

I watched my younger brother sever all ties with my family due to a situation like what you are creating.

I saw how it started, I don't want to see that happen again.

I miss him a lot, but there is no way I can contact him.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-11-10   23:04:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

the libertarian label in the mind of the average american conjures up an ideology that is not consistent with my own. hence if i tell someone im a libertarian, i explain that simply means i support liberty. that does not mean i am afraid of freedom. it means that most people dont even know what the term means.

That was an excellent post, Artisan.

You explained why many of us are so ashamedly meek and afraid to step out and voice a personal opinion.

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-10   23:13:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You have a severe reading comprehension problem. I stated back in my post 29 to Christine that I had talked to him. I also told you that I already talked to him in post 50, yet you keep on making these nonsensical accusations.

This level of decay in the morality of this nation disgusts me.

LOL! You are defending a child's ability to look at pornography unmolested and you want to talk about the decay of morality?

You are a nut job, plain and simple.

I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-11-10   23:14:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You ask your son point blank, weather [sic] he is looking at porn, without going behind his back, one of two things will happen.

Either he will admit to you, and you can discuss, like a parent and child should.

Or, he will lie. If he lies to you, he will likely quit looking at porn for a while.

How do you know there are only two ways of presentation? You have no facts at all. Suppose F.A. Hayek Fan's next door neighbour or his own son's girl-friend came sneaking into the son's room wanting to use the laptop for their own carnal sins? HELL, perhaps it was your own wife (PaulCJ) because you don't give her any Good&Plenty?

As is always, you have two ways of looking at things... and there is an entire spectrum of considerations that are beyond your own capabilities to grasp.

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-10   23:40:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You are defending a child's ability to look at pornography unmolested and you want to talk about the decay of morality?

You really don't understand what I am saying.

The moral decay in the nation is a lack of trust at every level, and that begins at home.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-11-10   23:48:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

How do you know there are only two ways of presentation? You have no facts at all. Suppose F.A. Hayek Fan's next door neighbour or his own son's girl-friend came sneaking into the son's room wanting to use the laptop for their own carnal sins? HELL, perhaps it was your own wife (PaulCJ) because you don't give her any Good&Plenty?

As is always, you have two ways of looking at things... and there is an entire spectrum of considerations that are beyond your own capabilities to grasp.

Your lack of skills in reading is showing.

The first post I made on this thread I stated: You should probably be more worried about the possibility that you son might accidentally get his girlfriend pregnant.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-11-10   23:50:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The moral decay in the nation is a lack of trust at every level, and that begins at home.

Who the HELL are you to suggest that idea? Do you think you lead some sort of moral life and does your family abide by your observations?

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-10   23:54:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You posted two ways of looking at a possible problem. I say your methods are fallacious; you are ridiculous and you don't know what you are talking about.

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-10   23:55:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Countermeasures would be installing some kind of spyware. A simple one would just copy the browser cache every 5 mins to some alternate place where it wouldn't get purged by firefox.

Very similar to what I told him privately.

Tough women come from New York, sweet women from Texas, prissy women from Southern California, but we NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood. We can ride 4-wheelers, be a princess, throw a left hook, pack heat, hunt with the men, bake a cake, love with passion, and if we have an opinion, you know you're going to hear it!!

farmfriend  posted on  2010-11-10   23:59:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

After having ATT's semi-fast 5mbs, I'm going to go with TW cable, and hope to get 20, or better.

I love my cable. I'll cut my food to crackers and water before I cut my cable.

Tough women come from New York, sweet women from Texas, prissy women from Southern California, but we NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood. We can ride 4-wheelers, be a princess, throw a left hook, pack heat, hunt with the men, bake a cake, love with passion, and if we have an opinion, you know you're going to hear it!!

farmfriend  posted on  2010-11-11   0:06:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

How come libertarians aren't considered responsible both personally, family, business and socially and yet the well-practised democrats and their own counter-parts, the republicans, are?

Now there is a profound question. One to which I would like an answer.

Tough women come from New York, sweet women from Texas, prissy women from Southern California, but we NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood. We can ride 4-wheelers, be a princess, throw a left hook, pack heat, hunt with the men, bake a cake, love with passion, and if we have an opinion, you know you're going to hear it!!

farmfriend  posted on  2010-11-11   0:12:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Who the HELL are you to suggest that idea? Do you think you lead some sort of moral life and does your family abide by your observations?

So you believe that honesty and trust are outdated concepts?

All your preaching of "morality" and you don't even understand the meaning of the word.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-11-11   0:14:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

i prefer the label paleoconservative. most people never heard of that though. it will confuse them.much of the general public, when they hear the term libertarian, conjure up someone who they think just doesnt like rules.

I prefer the term classic liberal as that is the true label.

Classical liberalism

Classical liberalism is a political ideology that developed in the nineteenth century in Western Europe, and the Americas. It was committed to the ideal of limited government and liberty of individuals including freedom of religion, speech, press, assembly, and free markets.[1] It drew on the economics of Adam Smith, a psychological understanding of individual liberty, natural law and utilitarianism, and a belief in progress. Classical liberals established political parties that were called "liberal", although in the United States classical liberalism came to dominate both existing major political parties.[1]

Although classical liberalism built on ideas that had already developed by the end of the eighteenth century, it advocated a specific kind of society, government and public policy required as a result of the Industrial Revolution and urbanization.[2] Notable individuals who have contributed to classical liberalism include Jean-Baptiste Say, Thomas Malthus, and David Ricardo.[3] There was a revival of interest in classical liberalism in the twentieth century led by Friedrich Hayek and Milton Friedman.[4]

The term classical liberalism was applied in retrospect to distinguish earlier nineteenth-century liberalism from the newer social liberalism.[5] The phrase classical liberalism is also sometimes used to refer to all forms of liberalism before the twentieth century, and some conservatives and libertarians use the term classical liberalism to describe their belief in the primacy of economic freedom and minimal government. It is not always clear which meaning is intended.

Tough women come from New York, sweet women from Texas, prissy women from Southern California, but we NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood. We can ride 4-wheelers, be a princess, throw a left hook, pack heat, hunt with the men, bake a cake, love with passion, and if we have an opinion, you know you're going to hear it!!

farmfriend  posted on  2010-11-11   0:16:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

if you told the typical republican tea partier your views on war, torture, taxes, 911, etc , theyd declare you a 'librul' anyway, & you could insist they add 'classical' to it. of course they would have no clue as to what it meant :-)

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2010-11-11   0:25:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

stupidity is everywhere.

Tough women come from New York, sweet women from Texas, prissy women from Southern California, but we NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood. We can ride 4-wheelers, be a princess, throw a left hook, pack heat, hunt with the men, bake a cake, love with passion, and if we have an opinion, you know you're going to hear it!!

farmfriend  posted on  2010-11-11   0:26:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

stupidity is everywhere.

It's the new national pastime.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-11-11   0:44:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The law does not consider a 16 year old boy old enough to view pornography. Neither do I. The fact that you do matters not a whit.

Attaboy. Hold your ground.

Basically I am on your side, and not because I am prude, as I am not. The Pornography industry subsists on degradation. Degradation of the girls who are the "object" and the customer as well. There is nothing wrong with sex, it's good sweaty fun. However, pornography plays on the darker side of human relations and as such it unwholesome. Not because represents sex, but because it misrepresents sex.

I could get more graphic but won't. However, doing his girlfriend, or in this day and age vice versa, is less problematic than pornography.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-11-11   0:51:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Firefox cache/history is in the following location in Windows: C:Documents and Settings/"username"/Local Settings/Application Data/MozillaFirefox/Profiles/"number-character-string".default/Cache

The best way to read it, is to simply open Firefox and type in "about:cache" to see what comes up.

Firefox 3.5 and 3.6 has gotten really good at cleaning up after itself. You can go to Tools > Clear Recent History and use a drop down arrow to clean out your viewing for the last hour, two hours, etc., and on up to everything. A really smart person would only dust their tracks for the time they were doing their nefarious deeds. A 16 year old is likely to go for the shotgun approach and dust everyone's tracks for the past 6 months. Doing the "about:cache" would probably show you the difference. For instance, if you saw a history through Sunday and then everything past that has suddenly vanished. Check the Firefox log again on Friday and see the log goes back to Thursday and everything past that has now mysteriously vanished.

Not only that, but Firefox (think starting with 3.4 or 3.5) has a feature called Private Browsing. Tools > Start Private Browsing and when you are done you can either close Firefox or Tools > Stop Private Browsing. Your tracks for that session are supposedly blown away.

Another end-round is that your home router may have a log enabled that is keeping track of the last 50-100 sites visited. Get your router name and model, hit Google and see anyone knows about logs for it and how to set them if possible. My Linksys has it turned off by default. The only catch to this is if you or anyone is running Tor or some kind of anonymizer, the router may not see the sites really being visited.

Otherwise, you may be looking at having to find some kind of keylogger program.

"What began in Russia will end in America."- 1930, Elder Ignatius of Harbin, Manchuria.

scooter  posted on  2010-11-11   1:28:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

after reading this thread, i feel guilty about my comment. i do think, however, if you've asked your son and he told you no that it would be best to take him at his word rather than checking on his computer. that, to me, would be like reading his diary or mail. should he learn that you did that, i would think that would be more damaging than his viewing pornography.

christine  posted on  2010-11-11   1:53:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Oh my you would really hate me and think I am out of line!!! But then again when it comes to MY KIDS I don't really care what you or anyone else really thinks.

I will and would watch my kids like a hawk. If I do not know what they are doing then I can't correct them.

You must have been quite the angelic kid when you were growing up because most of the parents I know do not want their kids to mess up and go in the direction they did when they were teens. We want better for our kids. But then again parents were not to bright in the 60's, 70's, and even early 80's. They were clueless.

As long as a parent is legally responsible for their kids they have every right to know what they are doing.

Who is paying for the internet? Who is paying for the electricity? Who is paying for the home? Who has paid for the kid his whole life and invested much time and love in the kid? Who will be heartbroken and care if that kid is in trouble? Who will the kid call when trouble is there? You or their parent?

You know everyone does not watch porn. I would not want to be with someone who had those types of sexual problems. I would not want my kids to have those type of problems. It is not healthy. I have seen a few marriages and relationships break up over this. And usually the dudes that are watching the porn are inadequate.....at least according to what I have heard.

MiracleRose7  posted on  2010-11-11   4:58:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Someone should have warned you that PaulCJ is a 3rd Grader.

"Politics and Religion are the building blocks of slavery and oppression. Greed is the mortar that bonds them" and bankers are the masons with trowels in hand !

noone222  posted on  2010-11-11   5:17:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

To quote the oldies, you're either an oldie, or very, very, well read.

I'll cop to the former, and some of the latter.

Since you are only slightly my elder I'll follow your lead. ;-)

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-11-11   11:21:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

As long as a parent is legally responsible for their kids they have every right to know what they are doing.

Who is paying for the internet? Who is paying for the electricity? Who is paying for the home? Who has paid for the kid his whole life and invested much time and love in the kid? Who will be heartbroken and care if that kid is in trouble? Who will the kid call when trouble is there? You or their parent?

very good points.

christine  posted on  2010-11-11   11:26:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

There were a few years when I couldn't appeal to my son's better angels, and thwarting my wishes and winning the approval of his peers was his reason to live.

You can either take the laptop or let him pass through the period where he does what he must. Nothing you do will decide if he is to be a lifelong porn addict. I dare say that the question is already decided regardless of what you do now.

If you tell him that he's on his own and he will suffer the consequences and stop verbalizing your concern for him, after an initial period of celebration he may begin to worry about what unseen hazards befall him, especially without your guidance and concern. Nothing will drive the point home more than when his peers inevitably pile up on the rocks. And it may be that nothing you say will alert him to the dangers before that happens and opens his eyes. If your son is smart enough to grasp the abstract then you may explain it once-the objectification of women in porn can destroy a young man's ability to ever bond and love someone, and if that happens he will forfeit one of life's greatest gifts. No woman he could ever love would want to spend her wedding night spinning in a Chinese basket job. And if he ruins his young soul he may have to pay a Filipino hooker with 10,000 satisfied customers to fulfill his needs.

If he's at the point where he knows everything then this means that you cannot protect him from certain dangers that he does not yet recognize. And, if he's operating a motor vehicle then you should really be concerned.

In my state broken hearted parents and kids erect roadside memorials at each location where carloads of kids have died. These ominous monuments carry more weight than all the lectures I've ever given. Some kids will still make the same old mistakes just as some parents will buy cars and pay the insurance for kids who are clearly not mature enough for the responsibility. I could only hope that my son was among the fraction of those who saw the signs and flowers and got the message. He'll be 25 next month and out of the statistical danger zone.

The letter of the law is too cold and formal to have a beneficial influence on society. Whenever the tissue of life is woven of legalistic relations, there is an atmosphere of moral mediocrity, paralyzing man's noblest impulses._Solzhenitsyn

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2010-11-11   12:02:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I will and would watch my kids like a hawk. If I do not know what they are doing then I can't correct them.

If you are watching them like a hawk, then you would know what they are doing.

Without trust there cannot be family.

And those government anti-drug commercials are poison in they state lies that it is okay not to trust one another among a family.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-11-11   12:05:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You can view porn online?

Do all of you know about this?

Ah.. so you're right. So that's why Google have the option switching Safe Search off! And it's amazing what one can see - not only can we see women's breasts, but their intimate area further down. I see there are now women who even shave that area. There's even durty pictirs of men having sex with those women! And videos too! lmao ;)

From Blank Cheque Ireland... to Bounced Cheque Ireland.

irishthatcherite  posted on  2010-11-11   12:28:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

And two others people on this board agree with me.

Well you lost christine in post #80. So that leaves Lod.

BTW, can't you stand on your own legs voicing a personal opinion without some sort of phantasmal, flag-waving requirement to cheer you on?

You were trounced on this thread. And brutally beaten to a pulp of mere fluid DNA.

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-11   12:50:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

If you tell him that he's on his own and he will suffer the consequences and stop verbalizing your concern for him, after an initial period of celebration he may begin to worry about what unseen hazards befall him, especially without your guidance and concern. Nothing will drive the point home more than when his peers inevitably pile up on the rocks. And it may be that nothing you say will alert him to the dangers before that happens and opens his eyes. If your son is smart enough to grasp the abstract then you may explain it once-the objectification of women in porn can destroy a young man's ability to ever bond and love someone, and if that happens he will forfeit one of life's greatest gifts.

well said. imo, that's the best advice as to how to handle the situation.

christine  posted on  2010-11-11   13:41:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

BTW, can't you stand on your own legs voicing a personal opinion without some sort of phantasmal, flag-waving requirement to cheer you on?

As opposed to you, whom has only throwns insults at every chance possible.

By not answering my question, you admit that you believe that honesty and trust are outdated concepts.

I pity you for a number of reasons. Including the above.

Another reason, buckeroo, is you love to inflate your sad ego by pinging several people when you reply to me. Just because you ping them, you automatically think they agree with you.

Unless they state otherwise, they probably don't give a damn about what either of us say. And you dragging them into this argument only makes you even a more sadder excuse for a person than you already are.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-11-11   14:08:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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