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Title: Question concerning Firefox and browsing history
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Published: Nov 10, 2010
Author: F.A. Hayek Fan
Post Date: 2010-11-10 12:44:44 by F.A. Hayek Fan
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Views: 1260
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I have reason to believe that my 16 y.o. son is looking at porn on his laptop. However, he knows how to go to the history tool bar and delete his browsing history. Is there another way that I can look at the browsing history?

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#2. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#0)

I have reason to believe that my 16 y.o. son is looking at porn on his laptop. However, he knows how to go to the history tool bar and delete his browsing history. Is there another way that I can look at the browsing history?

Your son is sixteen years old, if he isn't looking at porn, you should worry.

If it is not rape, snuff, or child porn, don't give yourself a heart attack over it.

You should probably be more worried about the possibility that you son might accidentally get his girlfriend pregnant.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-11-10   12:51:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: PaulCJ, F. A. Hayek (#2)

Your son is sixteen years old, if he isn't looking at porn, you should worry.

If it is not rape, snuff, or child porn, don't give yourself a heart attack over it.

i agree with Paul on this one.

christine  posted on  2010-11-10   13:20:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: christine, PaulCJ, 4 (#3)

I'm with you two on this.

Lod  posted on  2010-11-10   14:44:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Lod, F.A. Hayek Fan, PaulCJ, christine (#10)

PaulCJ never answered F.A. Hayek Fan's original technical question. So why do you think PaulCJ's moral principles of social conduct or behaviour trump a perfectly good technical question?

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-10   14:49:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: buckeroo (#11)

So why do you think PaulCJ's moral principles of social conduct or behaviour trump a perfectly good technical question?

Has FA asks his son directly beforehand about looking at porn? Looking him directly in the eye and ask the question.

To go behind someone's back is not moral. Such hypocrisy is the reason we have so many problems in the world.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-11-10   14:58:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: PaulCJ, F.A. Hayek Fan (#13)

Has FA asks his son directly beforehand about looking at porn? Looking him directly in the eye and ask the question.

To go behind someone's back is not moral. Such hypocrisy is the reason we have so many problems in the world.

Are your questions/considerations pertinent to F.A. Hayek Fan's original technical question? I don't think so.

Your moral considerations are meaningless to F.A. Hayek Fan's considerations. How do you know he hasn't already had the dialogue you discuss? Aren't YOU fabricating HOT_AIRE without addressing the initial point of view by F.A. Hayek Fan?

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-10   15:04:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: buckeroo (#15)

How do you know he hasn't already had the dialogue you discuss?

I don't. And neither do you.

But, you would walk in blindly into doing immoral acts, such as going behind people's backs, without asking for details beforehand. While I ask for, and point out details.

I believe in making an "informed decision" before taking action. You do not.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-11-10   15:23:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: PaulCJ (#17)

I don't. And neither do you.

So why did you decide to impose your own moral principles into a technical question?

But, you would walk in blindly into doing immoral acts, such as going behind people's backs, without asking for details beforehand. While I ask for, and point out details.

Sorry charlie, I discussed technical considerations NOT YOU. You imposed some fucked-upped dialogue that is reminiscent of the Spanish Inquisition. And your often spouted moral principals go no-where with me.

Here is your POST#2:

Your son is sixteen years old, if he isn't looking at porn, you should worry.

If it is not rape, snuff, or child porn, don't give yourself a heart attack over it.

You should probably be more worried about the possibility that you son might accidentally get his girlfriend pregnant.

Where did you answer the TECHNICAL question? Ohhhhh, it was too easy to FORCE your moral principals into a pile of blabbering BULLSHIT.

I believe in making an "informed decision" before taking action. You do not.

You don't know diddly-squat.

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-10   15:35:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: buckeroo (#19)

So why did you decide to impose your own moral principles into a technical question?

Because "moral principles", or lack there of, were stated within the "technical question" itself.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-11-10   16:20:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: PaulCJ, F.A. Hayek Fan, Lod, christine, Original_Intent, PSUSA (#22)

Because "moral principles", or lack there of, were stated within the "technical question" itself.

You remind me of those anti-constitutionalists that argue about the requirements of and about the Second Amendment.

F.A. Hayek Fan posted an establishment preamble that has only meaning to his technical question. On review:

Here is what F.A. Hayek Fan asked:

I have reason to believe that my 16 y.o. son is looking at porn on his laptop. However, he knows how to go to the history tool bar and delete his browsing history. Is there another way that I can look at the browsing history?

His reasons are his business in establishing a premise. But all you did in post#2 was distract away from his interest.

Now, let's look at the Second Amendment which is largely neglected in the SAME WAY (or contextual argument) you attempted to distract F.A. Hayek Fan's post:

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

You have garbled F.A. Hayek Fan's meaning similar to Handgun Control Inc. You think because of establishing a forward or principle towards the issue permits some sort of distraction.

You are a bumbling, babbling idiot PaulCJ. No wonder you can't get it quite right yet ... you are always distracted because you can't read.

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-10   16:39:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: buckeroo (#25)

You remind me of those anti-constitutionalists that argue about the requirements of and about the Second Amendment.

You remind me of those rabid teachers that were more concerned with disciplining children, than teaching children.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-11-10   19:21:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: PaulCJ (#41)

You remind me of those rabid teachers that were more concerned with disciplining children, than teaching children.

Lets take another peek at your own #2 post, shall we?

Your son is sixteen years old, if he isn't looking at porn, you should worry.

If it is not rape, snuff, or child porn, don't give yourself a heart attack over it.

You should probably be more worried about the possibility that you son might accidentally get his girlfriend pregnant.

You are a fool, PaulCJ. What do want me to do on the Internet, beg a bailiff to whack your pee-pee (borrowed cliché from Arlo Guthrie's infamous ... Alice's Restaurant)?

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-10   19:32:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: buckeroo (#43)

You are a fool, PaulCJ. What do want me to do on the Internet, beg a bailiff to whack your pee-pee (borrowed cliché from Arlo Guthrie's infamous ... Alice's Restaurant)?

I understand human nature. And I was pointing out, barring a few exceptions, this was not as bad as some would think.

There are far, far worse things than porn.

And two others people on this board agree with me.

buckeroo, grow up and realize that people are human beings, and not walking robots with no emotions.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-11-10   21:18:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: PaulCJ (#47)

I understand human nature. And I was pointing out, barring a few exceptions, this was not as bad as some would think.

There are far, far worse things than porn.

And two others people on this board agree with me.

buckeroo, grow up and realize that people are human beings, and not walking robots with no emotions.

Regardless of what you and others on this board believe, the overwhelming majority of parents do not approve of their children viewing pornography on the internet.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-11-10   21:57:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#51)

Regardless of what you and others on this board believe, the overwhelming majority of parents do not approve of their children viewing pornography on the internet.

You really don't get what I am saying to you. It isn't the porn I am talking about. It is the going behind the back of you son that is the problem.

This is how the mentality of those in government thinking it alright to spy on on people of their own nation gets started. It is a lack of trust. A lack of trust that starts a home.

A lack of trust where people don't have the courage to

You want to invade someone else privacy.

That is no difference between immorality a cop searching a person's home, and a parent searching their teenager.

You want to get proof before confronting you son, because you don't trust you son AT ALL!

Because you believe the government commercials that it is okay invade someone else's privacy.

This is how some of the major problems in our nation got started. A COMPLETE LACK OF TRUST AT HOME!!

This level of decay in the morality of this nation disgusts me.

You ask your son point blank, weather he is looking at porn, without going behind his back, one of two things will happen.

Either he will admit to you, and you can discuss, like a parent and child should.

Or, he will lie. If he lies to you, he will likely quit looking at porn for a while.

If you present that you went behind his back, you will have a make argument with your son that will likely lead to more problems THAT ARE WORSE THAN WHAT YOU WORRY ABOUT NOW!!

You son may need you in a life or death situation for himself in the future, and if he cannot trust you now, he will not trust you then, which will make the situation he will be in worse.

I watched my younger brother sever all ties with my family due to a situation like what you are creating.

I saw how it started, I don't want to see that happen again.

I miss him a lot, but there is no way I can contact him.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-11-10   23:04:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: PaulCJ (#62)

Oh my you would really hate me and think I am out of line!!! But then again when it comes to MY KIDS I don't really care what you or anyone else really thinks.

I will and would watch my kids like a hawk. If I do not know what they are doing then I can't correct them.

You must have been quite the angelic kid when you were growing up because most of the parents I know do not want their kids to mess up and go in the direction they did when they were teens. We want better for our kids. But then again parents were not to bright in the 60's, 70's, and even early 80's. They were clueless.

As long as a parent is legally responsible for their kids they have every right to know what they are doing.

Who is paying for the internet? Who is paying for the electricity? Who is paying for the home? Who has paid for the kid his whole life and invested much time and love in the kid? Who will be heartbroken and care if that kid is in trouble? Who will the kid call when trouble is there? You or their parent?

You know everyone does not watch porn. I would not want to be with someone who had those types of sexual problems. I would not want my kids to have those type of problems. It is not healthy. I have seen a few marriages and relationships break up over this. And usually the dudes that are watching the porn are inadequate.....at least according to what I have heard.

MiracleRose7  posted on  2010-11-11   4:58:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: MiracleRose7 (#81)

I will and would watch my kids like a hawk. If I do not know what they are doing then I can't correct them.

If you are watching them like a hawk, then you would know what they are doing.

Without trust there cannot be family.

And those government anti-drug commercials are poison in they state lies that it is okay not to trust one another among a family.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-11-11   12:05:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#101. To: PaulCJ (#86)

To: MiracleRose7

I will and would watch my kids like a hawk. If I do not know what they are doing then I can't correct them.

If you are watching them like a hawk, then you would know what they are doing.

Without trust there cannot be family.

And those government anti-drug commercials are poison in they state lies that it is okay not to trust one another among a family.

You just keep on blindly trusting everyone!!! You are very naive. Are you even a parent and how old are you children. If you do have kids you do know that you will be held legally responsible for their actions.

We are a family and a good one. You do obviously not understand or see that outside influences are consistently bombarding our children. It takes time and maturity for children to consistently make the right decisions. I have seen children that do not have the guidance and the parental mentality of let them handle it (before they are ready). Bad decisions, or peer pressure can ruin a kid for the rest of their lives.

I have invested too many years, tears, love, time, effort, and money in my kids just to let some loon and word play games try to manipulate or dictate my position.

I have a 19 year old son making good decisions and who is very responsible. Guess what ….he did not get into that dumb stuff. He was busy with Christian Karate, school, work, youth group, and other productive activities.

MiracleRose7  posted on  2010-11-11 17:07:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: PaulCJ (#86)

Without trust there cannot be family.

This is correct. He finds out you are spying on him and it will make him lying about viewing porn seem minor by comparison. Take him at his word.

RickyJ  posted on  2010-11-12 00:58:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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