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Resistance See other Resistance Articles Title: Thank A Vet? Weve all seen the bumper stickers: "My son is in the Air Force," "If You Can Read This in English, Thank a Marine," "Proud Vietnam Veteran," "Fly Navy," and of course, "Thank a Vet." Why should we? Why should we call them heroes, give them military discounts, grant them veterans preference, express our support for them with ribbons on our cars, honor them with a holiday, hold military appreciation church services for them, and thank them for their "service"? Veterans Day began as Armistice Day to commemorate the signing of the armistice that ended World War I. It had nothing to do with honoring current and former members of the military like Veterans Day is celebrated today. And if the sole purpose of Armistice Day was to honor World War I veterans, it should never have been celebrated since no American soldier did anything honorable by intervening in a European foreign war. And it doesnt matter if he was drafted or not. Britains last World War I combat veteran, Harry Patch, died last year at the age of 111. He boasted that he hadnt killed anyone in combat. "War isnt worth one life," Patch said, it is "calculated and condoned slaughter of human beings." In his autobiography The Last Fighting Tommy, Patch wrote that "politicians who took us to war should have been given the guns and told to settle their differences themselves, instead of organising nothing better than legalised mass murder." In the last years of his life, Patch warned some young naval recruits that they shouldnt join. Frank Buckles, age 109, is the only American veteran of World War I still living. When asked while being honored for his service at a 2007 Veterans Day ceremony at Arlington National Cemetery what he thought about being there while the United States was at war, he replied: "Im no authority, but Im not in favor of war unless its an emergency." I think that Buckles is more of an authority on the horrors of war and the folly and wickedness of war than the current members of the Joint Chiefs. It is only because World War I did not turn out to be the "war to end all wars" that the holiday was changed to Veterans Day as a tribute to all soldiers who fought for their country. Although I believe World War II to be neither necessary nor good, I come not on this Veterans Day to criticize the "greatest generation," who, it turns out, were also great at pillaging and carousing. For reasons I explained in "U.S. Presidents and Those Who Kill for Them," World War II marks the permanent establishment of the American military as the presidents personal attack force to kill by his decree Koreans, Vietnamese, Laotians, Cambodians, Grenadians, Panamanians, Yugoslavs, Serbians, Afghans, Iraqis, Somalis, Yemenis, and Pakistanis. Next on the list is Iranians. Sometimes these presidential decrees are rubberstamped by a congressional authorization to use force, but they are always preceded by presidential lies and warmonger propaganda. So why should a Vietnam veteran be proud? He was typically young, ignorant, deceived, and drafted. He may have fought obediently, valiantly, selflessly, and fearlessly, but since he had no business fighting in Vietnam in the first place, I have nothing to thank him for. And I certainly cant thank him for preventing the Viet Cong from turning America into a socialist republic. Besides, LBJ beat Ho Chi Minh to that anyway. Many Vietnam veterans have written me and expressed shame, remorse, anger, and resentment not pride for having been duped into going thousands of miles away from American soil to intervene in another countrys civil war. In fact, I have found that it is those who are not Vietnam veterans who are the most vociferous defenders of the war in Vietnam. The most undeserved and oftentimes disgusting outpouring of thankfulness I have ever seen is over those who have fought or are fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan. The praise and adoration of those fighting in "the front lines in the war on terror" reaches its apex on Veterans Day, which has become a day to defend U.S. wars and recognize all things military. These soldiers certainly have done nothing worthy of thanks. Sure, they have rebuilt infrastructure after bombing it to smithereens. They no doubt removed a brutal dictator and unleashed American brutality in the process. And yes, they have rescued orphan children after blowing their parents and brothers and sisters to kingdom come. What is there to thank our soldiers for? They are not defending our freedoms. They are not keeping us safe from our enemies. They are not protecting us from terrorists. They are not guaranteeing our First Amendment rights. They are not defending U.S. borders. They are not guarding U.S. shores. They are not patrolling U.S. coasts. They are not enforcing no-fly zones over U.S. skies. They are not fighting "over there" so we dont have to fight "over here." They are not avenging 9/11. They are not safeguarding the American way of life. Oh, and they are not ensuring that I have the liberty to write what I do about the military. What, then, should we thank our soldiers for? Should we thank them for fighting an unconstitutional war, an unscriptural war, an immoral war, an offensive war, an unjust war, or a senseless war? Should we thank our veterans for helping to carry out an aggressive, reckless, belligerent, and interventionist foreign policy? Should we thank the military for sucking $1 trillion out of the federal budget? But, some will say, these soldiers are just doing their jobs. They cant help it if the U.S. military sends them to fight in an unjust war in Iraq or Afghanistan. They are just following orders. They didnt enlist in the military to kill people. What would any sane man think about a doctor who takes a job at a hospital knowing that the hospital instructs its doctors to euthanize old and sickly patients and then says he was just doing his job, following orders, and didnt take the job to kill people? Why are soldiers treated so differently? Why do they get a pass on committing or supporting those who commit murder and mayhem? But, someone else says, the military has lowered its recruiting standards and is scraping the bottom of the barrel. Many soldiers are ignorant about the true nature of the military and U.S. foreign policy. Why should we fault them for their ignorance? Why should they be criticized for unjustly killing Iraqis or Afghans or Pakistanis? They are just following orders. Lets go back to the doctor I mentioned. Suppose that after he takes a job in ignorance at what he thinks is a reputable hospital he is instructed to euthanize old and sickly patients? What should he do? I dont know of anyone who would say anything else but that he should quit his job or at least refuse to euthanize anyone. Again, why are soldiers treated so differently? Why do they get a pass on committing or supporting those who commit murder and mayhem? But, comes another reply, soldiers have a term of enlistment. They cant just quit their jobs. Doctors can walk away from their jobs at any time. Then I guess it all comes down to morality: Be a mercenary and kill for the state or refuse to do so and suffer the consequences of dishonorable discharge and/or imprisonment. It is high time that Americans stop holding veterans and current members of the military in such high esteem. It is scientists, engineers, inventors, businessmen, industrialists, software developers, and entrepreneurs that made America great not veterans of foreign wars. It is doctors, iron workers, taxi drivers, bricklayers, writers, electricians, and cooks that positively contribute to society not soldiers. I would like to be able to thank a vet on Veterans Day and every other day of the year but Im still searching for a reason.
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#11. To: Ada, 4 (#0)
Yes. I will thank a vet. This nation honors those who died at Valley Forge and Antietam and on the beaches of Normandy, as well as those who every day put their lives on the line for America in Iraq, be it right or wrong to some. The military nature of America has to change, but those who have served, or are serving, deserve our respect.
Those who fight for wrong might not realize what they are doing but that's no reason to honor them.
Ada, Make all these eeevil military industrial complex dupes go away, then come speak to me about drawing down our forces. OK?
Might as well draw our troops out of South Korea. Not enough of them to stop the Yellow Horde from crossing the 38th parallel. The South Koreans may or may not be able handle them but its their problem and not ours.
Au contraire, mon ami. The US holds treaties around the world based on UN resolutions/US treaties with sovereign nations; in fact, US military forces in South Korea are under UN jurisdiction. If a US troop is killed, their remains are brought back to the USA in a coffin with a UN flag draped over it to this very day.
Probably true, now. When I was on the DMZ we saw no evidence of the UN. The 7 guys killed when I was there were shipped back under OUR flag. I was slated to be an "escort" for one guy, passed on it. I don't handle funerals well. I did go to a KATUSA's funeral, for a day or two. Not sure how long it was. Their trip to Happy Mountain is a Drinking/Eating Affair. Now THEY know how to Die! I could reasonably converse in screwed up Korean. I was representing the Army. We also paid for it.
Lead by U.S. Army Col. Donald Kropp, officials from the United Nations Command Military Armistice Commission (UNCMAC) salute a casket draped with the U.N. flag. The casket is believed to contain one of five U.S. soldiers killed in the Korean War who were repatriated during a ceremony at the Panmunjom Freedom House. The UNCMAC officials received the remains from North Korean officials during the eighth repatriation ceremony held since joint search and recovery operations began in Korea in 1996. The five sets of remains brings the total returned to 19. Kim Yong-kyu, a spokesman for the U.N. command said the remains were recovered from Gaechon City, about 50 miles north of Pyongyang. The U.S. 2nd Infantry Division suffered nearly 5,000 casualties while retreating through the area after China entered the war in late 1950 heightening the possibility that the remains are of U.S. soldiers. The repatriated remains will be shipped to the Army's Central Identification Laboratory in Hawaii for processing. (U.S. Air Force photo by Staff Sgt Jim Varhegyi) (RELEASED)
I had friends, shot down over the North, never found, MIA and finally a year ago written off by pen as KIA. It never ends.
Today, America is just an arm of the UN. That picture I posted shows a coffin of at least one US soldier that was draped in a UN flag. Meanwhile back at the chicken ranch, illegals are taking over the southern border of the US. I wonder if the USA has agreed with Mexico and the UN about this invasion.
I disagree. For about 50 years the UN was the US figleaf for aggression, i.e, we used the UN in Korea not the other way around. Now its NATO that has the honor--the UN having proved unreliable in the second Iraq War.
Yes, of course NATO is the propaganda shield of coalition forces in Iraq; as it also is in Afghanistan. The UN was booted out of Bush's War because the Security Council was going to decide against military action based on Powell/Bush plea to the UN in 2003, prior to any attack on Iraq because of lack of evidence concerning WMD. BTW, the UN security council wasn't unreliable; they were correct. Bush turned to NATO as an attempt to garner not coalition forces... but as a propaganda method to build a case for the American publick. The rest is history about two failed wars costing the US taxpayer trillions of dollars and possibly bankrupting America.
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