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Title: Thank A Vet?
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URL Source: http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance216.html
Published: Nov 11, 2010
Author: Laurence Vance
Post Date: 2010-11-11 06:22:29 by Ada
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Views: 1565
Comments: 121

We’ve all seen the bumper stickers: "My son is in the Air Force," "If You Can Read This in English, Thank a Marine," "Proud Vietnam Veteran," "Fly Navy," and of course, "Thank a Vet."

Why should we?

Why should we call them heroes, give them military discounts, grant them veterans preference, express our support for them with ribbons on our cars, honor them with a holiday, hold military appreciation church services for them, and thank them for their "service"?

Veterans Day began as Armistice Day to commemorate the signing of the armistice that ended World War I. It had nothing to do with honoring current and former members of the military like Veterans Day is celebrated today. And if the sole purpose of Armistice Day was to honor World War I veterans, it should never have been celebrated since no American soldier did anything honorable by intervening in a European foreign war. And it doesn’t matter if he was drafted or not.

Britain’s last World War I combat veteran, Harry Patch, died last year at the age of 111. He boasted that he hadn’t killed anyone in combat. "War isn’t worth one life," Patch said, it is "calculated and condoned slaughter of human beings." In his autobiography The Last Fighting Tommy, Patch wrote that "politicians who took us to war should have been given the guns and told to settle their differences themselves, instead of organising nothing better than legalised mass murder." In the last years of his life, Patch warned some young naval recruits that they shouldn’t join.

Frank Buckles, age 109, is the only American veteran of World War I still living. When asked while being honored for his service at a 2007 Veterans Day ceremony at Arlington National Cemetery what he thought about being there while the United States was at war, he replied: "I’m no authority, but I’m not in favor of war unless it’s an emergency." I think that Buckles is more of an authority on the horrors of war and the folly and wickedness of war than the current members of the Joint Chiefs.

It is only because World War I did not turn out to be the "war to end all wars" that the holiday was changed to Veterans Day as a tribute to all soldiers who fought for their country.

Although I believe World War II to be neither necessary nor good, I come not on this Veterans Day to criticize the "greatest generation," who, it turns out, were also great at pillaging and carousing.

For reasons I explained in "U.S. Presidents and Those Who Kill for Them," World War II marks the permanent establishment of the American military as the president’s personal attack force to kill by his decree Koreans, Vietnamese, Laotians, Cambodians, Grenadians, Panamanians, Yugoslavs, Serbians, Afghans, Iraqis, Somalis, Yemenis, and Pakistanis. Next on the list is Iranians. Sometimes these presidential decrees are rubberstamped by a congressional authorization to use force, but they are always preceded by presidential lies and warmonger propaganda.

So why should a Vietnam veteran be proud? He was typically young, ignorant, deceived, and drafted. He may have fought obediently, valiantly, selflessly, and fearlessly, but since he had no business fighting in Vietnam in the first place, I have nothing to thank him for. And I certainly can’t thank him for preventing the Viet Cong from turning America into a socialist republic. Besides, LBJ beat Ho Chi Minh to that anyway. Many Vietnam veterans have written me and expressed shame, remorse, anger, and resentment – not pride – for having been duped into going thousands of miles away from American soil to intervene in another country’s civil war. In fact, I have found that it is those who are not Vietnam veterans who are the most vociferous defenders of the war in Vietnam.

The most undeserved and oftentimes disgusting outpouring of thankfulness I have ever seen is over those who have fought or are fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan. The praise and adoration of those fighting in "the front lines in the war on terror" reaches its apex on Veterans Day, which has become a day to defend U.S. wars and recognize all things military. These soldiers certainly have done nothing worthy of thanks. Sure, they have rebuilt infrastructure – after bombing it to smithereens. They no doubt removed a brutal dictator – and unleashed American brutality in the process. And yes, they have rescued orphan children – after blowing their parents and brothers and sisters to kingdom come.

What is there to thank our soldiers for? They are not defending our freedoms. They are not keeping us safe from our enemies. They are not protecting us from terrorists. They are not guaranteeing our First Amendment rights. They are not defending U.S. borders. They are not guarding U.S. shores. They are not patrolling U.S. coasts. They are not enforcing no-fly zones over U.S. skies. They are not fighting "over there" so we don’t have to fight "over here." They are not avenging 9/11. They are not safeguarding the American way of life. Oh, and they are not ensuring that I have the liberty to write what I do about the military.

What, then, should we thank our soldiers for? Should we thank them for fighting an unconstitutional war, an unscriptural war, an immoral war, an offensive war, an unjust war, or a senseless war? Should we thank our veterans for helping to carry out an aggressive, reckless, belligerent, and interventionist foreign policy? Should we thank the military for sucking $1 trillion out of the federal budget?

But, some will say, these soldiers are just doing their jobs. They can’t help it if the U.S. military sends them to fight in an unjust war in Iraq or Afghanistan. They are just following orders. They didn’t enlist in the military to kill people.

What would any sane man think about a doctor who takes a job at a hospital knowing that the hospital instructs its doctors to euthanize old and sickly patients – and then says he was just doing his job, following orders, and didn’t take the job to kill people?

Why are soldiers treated so differently? Why do they get a pass on committing or supporting those who commit murder and mayhem?

But, someone else says, the military has lowered its recruiting standards and is scraping the bottom of the barrel. Many soldiers are ignorant about the true nature of the military and U.S. foreign policy. Why should we fault them for their ignorance? Why should they be criticized for unjustly killing Iraqis or Afghans or Pakistanis? They are just following orders.

Let’s go back to the doctor I mentioned. Suppose that after he takes a job in ignorance at what he thinks is a reputable hospital he is instructed to euthanize old and sickly patients? What should he do? I don’t know of anyone who would say anything else but that he should quit his job or at least refuse to euthanize anyone.

Again, why are soldiers treated so differently? Why do they get a pass on committing or supporting those who commit murder and mayhem?

But, comes another reply, soldiers have a term of enlistment. They can’t just quit their jobs. Doctors can walk away from their jobs at any time. Then I guess it all comes down to morality: Be a mercenary and kill for the state or refuse to do so and suffer the consequences of dishonorable discharge and/or imprisonment.

It is high time that Americans stop holding veterans and current members of the military in such high esteem. It is scientists, engineers, inventors, businessmen, industrialists, software developers, and entrepreneurs that made America great – not veterans of foreign wars. It is doctors, iron workers, taxi drivers, bricklayers, writers, electricians, and cooks that positively contribute to society – not soldiers.

I would like to be able to thank a vet – on Veterans Day and every other day of the year – but I’m still searching for a reason.

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#17. To: Ada (#0)

"It is high time that Americans stop holding veterans and current members of the military in such high esteem. It is scientists, engineers, inventors, businessmen, industrialists, software developers, and entrepreneurs that made America great – not veterans of foreign wars. It is doctors, iron workers, taxi drivers, bricklayers, writers, electricians, and cooks that positively contribute to society – not soldiers."

Well then, as an Army Vet from '65-'68 Artillery, How about thanking me for 7 Patents as an Engineer. Or the 3 Industrial Manf. Plants that I was Plant Mgr. of? Or the Machine Shop I started when I got out of Mfg.?

Other than that, I've really just sucked up my SS.

ndcorup  posted on  2010-11-11   9:09:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: ndcorup (#17)

Other than that, I've really just sucked up my SS.

Well Sir, as riff raff most likely you and I are mucking up this thread in particular and the forum in general.

I need to be taught my place.

Someone mentioned the best and the brightest as paying the bill by dying. That is not factual, never has been, and anyone desiring to, may peruse the official government records that break down the death statistics by ranks.

The best and brightest rise to the top, the riff raff remains at the bottom, this seems always to be true and accepted. Official records show the overwhelming death rate of the bottom layer VS the top layer death rate.

Too many people here do not want to be reminded that a riff raff soldier refused to kill any more during WW2 and Eisenhower had him shot. This by a man that never in his military career had one day of combat.

Eddie Slovak was against war and killing, he deserted time after time, so he was shot. No loss, just more riff raff.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-11   9:21:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Cynicom (#18)

... as riff raff most likely you and I are mucking up this thread in particular and the forum in general.

The one who posted this article, as well as all those who are in agreement with its contents, are as guilty as the bastards who sent all those young men (and most lately women, too) to war.

Do my panties have to be in a wad for me to think that way? Hardly! I know too well who are the guilty parties and those giving credence to the subject writing are adding fuel to the fire of the elite.

By the way, save your words that are designed to either change my mind or have me look ignorant. I have lived too long, seen too much, studied and researched history too intently, and suffered too many years at the hands of the guilty to think any other way than I do.

Phant2000  posted on  2010-11-11   10:46:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Phant2000 (#30)

By the way, save your words that are designed to either change my mind or have me look ignorant.

Best and brightest has intrigued me.

That is a contradiction it itself, if we have the bottom of the social order doing the dying, surely they are NOT the best and brightest.

From experience, when my turn came, the best and brightest managed to skip out on a government mandated service to kill people. Out of thirteen young men, five hustled into college and were exempted. One became a doctor, two engineers, one a pro ball player the other a farmer. They were the best and brightest, never went, sat on the sidelines.

We of the riff raff went except one that was homo sexual. Three were wounded, one twice. Yes, we were the hated riff raff that have now become the hated veterans.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-11   10:57:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Cynicom (#33) (Edited)

Yes, we were the hated riff raff that have now become the hated veterans.

I have NO hate for the "riff raff that have now become the hated veterans".

As to the "best and the brightest ... doing the dying", those sending them never identified them in such terms. They were merely identified as "expendable".

Phant2000  posted on  2010-11-11   11:09:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Phant2000 (#35)

They were merely identified as "expendable".

I doubt if there are many here that truly understand how the "riff raff" are indeed determined to be expendable.

To write off thousands with the stroke of a pen is beyond the intellectual comprehension of far too many people.

I did not mind being seen as the riff raff of society, we knew our place in the social order, however to be used by society as cannon fodder and then be written off here on this forum, as someone not worthy of any consideration, is rather difficult to accept.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-11   11:17:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Cynicom (#37)

"I did not mind being seen as the riff raff of society, we knew our place in the social order, however to be used by society as cannon fodder and then be written off here on this forum, as someone not worthy of any consideration, is rather difficult to accept."

Not intending to be Maudlin, but words from the past say it well ---"ALL gave some, SOME gave all". Most of us that served knew some of the last category.

And by now, most of us are immune to the slugs who demean us.

ndcorup  posted on  2010-11-11   16:51:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: ndcorup, All (#55)

And by now, most of us are immune to the slugs who demean us.

From the tone set here by quite a few, it is easily recognized that regardless of how we got there, our service is to be demeaned, we were truly expendable.

Earlier I mentioned Eddie Slovik. His trial for desertion started at ten AM and at eleven forty AM he had been convicted and sentenced to be shot. All of this "justice" was administered by desk officers that had never seen or heard a shot fired in Europe.

Sloviks "legal adviser" was not an attorney. Later is self shame the desk officers admitted it would have a shorter trial except they argued whether Slovak should be shot or hung.

Slovak was a nobody, petty criminal, Ike ON HIS OWN DECIDED TO MAKE AN EXAMPLE OF HIM AND SO HE DID. The trial officers were horrified and several confessed their shame, after the fact.

But, so what, the world was better off without such trash.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-11   17:14:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Cynicom (#58)

From the tone set here by quite a few, it is easily recognized that regardless of how we got there, our service is to be demeaned, we were truly expendable.

Cyni, I have the utmost respect and highest regards for soldiers who have served honorably even in what were dishonorable causes (the assumption being that most who served believed the propaganda that got them involved). I had an uncle who was a POW in Germany and who was the recipient of many medals. And one of the nicest, kindest, most decent man you could ever hope to meet. I respect men like that. The ones I don't respect are the ones who made up the propaganda that has gotten us involved in various blood-letting enterprises where we had no national interest or any business.

As Smedley Butler rightly pointed out, war is a racket, a racket to enrich the few at the expense of the many and should never be fought until and unless it can be shown that it is being waged against real enemies and in our national interest,* not on tactics (like the War on Terror). How does one, or one nation, win a war on terror? Would it not require the extermination of most of mankind since almost all of us are terrorists by some definition? And our country has created terrorists by killing innocent people. Their family members won't be satisfied to think of their innocent loved ones as "collateral damage" and their deaths as being somehow "for the greater good." Politicians and bankers should get to fight their own d@mned wars. I bet you there wouldn't be many if that were the case.

*National interest, not the pecuniary interest of people in the MIC and the bankers. People who would throw their own mother under the bus if there was a couple of dollars in it for them.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-11-11   18:57:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#72. To: James Deffenbach (#70)

James...

Agreed.

I approach all views of the grunts in the military with a skeptical eye.

I was in the unenviable position in the mi8litary, of having someone stand in front of us and tell us we were expendable. Seven of us on each crew. It was all passed to us in the abstract, but it did not take a genius to realize what was being said.

It boiled down to, if you go, you wont be back, death sentence, for doing your job.

I am rather jaded concerning those that have zero regard for the grunts, past or present.

In due time they may well change their minds.

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