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Title: Wayne Madsen: China Fired Missile Seen In Southern California
Source: infowars.com
URL Source: http://www.infowars.com/wayne-madse ... e-seen-in-southern-california/
Published: Nov 12, 2010
Author: Wayne Madsen
Post Date: 2010-11-12 15:00:35 by randge
Keywords: Missile launch, Southern California, Madsen, China
Views: 1653
Comments: 124

Wayne Madsen: China Fired Missile Seen In Southern California
Prison Planet TV

Wayne Madsen Report
November 10, 2010

Pentagon and its embedded media covering up Chinese show of force off LA

China flexed its military muscle Monday evening in the skies west of Los Angeles when a Chinese Navy Jin class ballistic missile nuclear submarine, deployed secretly from its underground home base on the south coast of Hainan island, launched an intercontinental ballistic missile from international waters off the southern California coast. WMR’s intelligence sources in Asia, including Japan, say the belief by the military commands in Asia and the intelligence services is that the Chinese decided to demonstrate to the United States its capabilities on the eve of the G-20 Summit in Seoul and the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation summit in Tokyo, where President Obama is scheduled to attend during his ten-day trip to Asia.

The reported Chinese missile test off Los Angeles came as a double blow to Obama. The day after the missile firing, China’s leading credit rating agency, Dagong Global Credit Rating, downgraded sovereign debt rating of the United States to A-plus from AA. The missile demonstration coupled with the downgrading of the United States financial grade represents a military and financial show of force by Beijing to Washington.

The Pentagon spin machine, backed by the media reporters who regularly cover the Defense Department, as well as officials of the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD), and the U.S. Northern Command, is now spinning various conspiracy theories, including describing the missile plume videotaped by KCBS news helicopter cameraman Gil Leyvas at around 5:00 pm Pacific Standard Time, during the height of evening rush hour, as the condensation trail from a jet aircraft. Other Pentagon-inspired cover stories are that the missile was actually an amateur rocket or an optical illusion.

Experts agree that this was a ballistic missile being fired off of Los Angeles. Pentagon insists it was a jet aircraft or model rocket.

There are no records of a plane in the area having taken off from Los Angeles International Airport or from other airports in the region. The Navy and Air Force have said that they were not conducting any missile tests from submarines, ships, or Vandenberg Air Force Base. The Navy has also ruled out an accidental firing from one of its own submarines.

Missile experts, including those from Jane’s in London, say the plume was definitely from a missile, possibly launched from a submarine. WMR has learned that the missile was likely a JL-2 ICBM, which has a range of 7,000 miles, and was fired in a northwesterly direction over the Pacific and away from U.S. territory from a Jin class submarine. The Jin class can carry up to twelve such missiles.

Navy sources have revealed that the missile may have impacted on Chinese territory and that the National Security Agency (NSA) likely posseses intercepts of Chinese telemtry signals during the missile firing and subsequent testing operations.

Japanese and other Asian intelligence agencies believe that a Chinese Jin-class SSBN submarine conducted missile “show of force” in skies west of Los Angeles.

Asian intelligence sources believe the submarine transited from its base on Hainan through South Pacific waters, where U.S. anti-submarine warfare detection capabilities are not as effective as they are in the northern and mid-Pacific, and then transited north to waters off of Los Angeles. The Pentagon, which has spent billions on ballistic missile defense systems, a pet project of former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, is clearly embarrassed over the Chinese show of strength.

Likely route of Jin-class submarine from Hainan base.

The White House also wants to donwplay the missile story before Presidnet Obama meets with his Chinese counterpart in Seoul and Tokyo. According to Japanese intelligence sources, Beijing has been angry over United States and allied naval exercises in the South China and Yellow Seas, in what China considers its sphere of influence, and the missile firing within the view of people in Southern California was a demonstration that China’s navy can also play in waters off the American coast.

For the U.S. Navy, the Chinese show of force is a huge embarassment, especially for the Navy’s Pacific Command in Pearl Harbor, where Japan’s December 7, 1941 attack on the fleet at Pearl Harbor remains a sore subject.

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In 2002, national security adviser Condoleezza Rice reportedly scolded visiting Chinese General Xiong Guankai, the deputy chief of staff for intelligence of the People’s Liberation Army, for remarks he allegedly made in 1995 that China would use nuclear weapons on Los Angeles. Xiong denied he made any such comments but the “spin” on the story helped convince Congress to sink billions of additional dollars into ballistic missile defense, sometimes referred to at “Star Wars II.”

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Poster Comment:

Wayne Madsen is well known as an investigative reporter. Less well known is the fact that he trained at the Nay's Surface Warfare School. Madsen was assigned to anti-submarine acoustic sensing operationsa and was awarded a Navy Unit Commendation as part of the team that detected the first acoustic signature of a Soviet Alfa class submarine.

Madsen says that our highly advertised anti-submarine capability has been hollowed out in recent years and that we currently have only five ASW vessels to cover all the world's oceans. He cites the Navy's admission of the failure to detect a Chinese submarine that surfaced within weapons range of the USS Kitty Hawk task force several years ago.

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#111. To: randge, WTF is this crap?, all, *Black Ops - Psyops* (#0) (Edited)

China flexed its military muscle Monday evening in the skies west of Los Angeles when a Chinese Navy Jin class ballistic missile nuclear submarine, deployed secretly from its underground home base on the south coast of Hainan island, launched an intercontinental ballistic missile from international waters off the southern California coast.

WOW!

Let's read further and see if he backs it up.

**The reported Chinese missile test off Los Angeles came as a double blow to Obama.**

"Reported"? Well, yes, he's the one reporting it.

**WMR has learned that the missile was likely a JL-2 ICBM, which has a range of 7,000 miles, and was fired in a northwesterly direction over the Pacific and away from U.S. territory from a Jin class submarine. The Jin class can carry up to twelve such missiles. **

You learned it from ________________??? That is some specific information there. I'm surprised that you didn't come up with the captains name.

** Navy sources have revealed that the missile may have impacted on Chinese territory and that the National Security Agency (NSA) likely posseses intercepts of Chinese telemtry signals during the missile firing and subsequent testing operations. **

"Likely"? "Navy sources"? "may have"? Hmmm. Better run to the hills, run for your life! (An Iron Maiden reference. www.youtube.com/watch?v=7viY-K4Twlg )

** Likely route of Jin-class submarine from Hainan base. **

Yes, I can see how it's "likely". What happened to your great intel sources? Surely they know the route.

** For the U.S. Navy, the Chinese show of force is a huge embarassment, especially for the Navy’s Pacific Command in Pearl Harbor, where Japan’s December 7, 1941 attack on the fleet at Pearl Harbor remains a sore subject. **

So it was a definite "Chinese show of force" now??? Up above, you said "The reported Chinese missile test", which you reported. How convenient.

**In 2002, national security adviser Condoleezza Rice reportedly scolded visiting Chinese General Xiong Guankai,**

Was it you that reported it??? I bet it was.

But the article was on infowhores. That means it's 100% true. Those that disagree are government "shills" or "agents".

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-11-13   7:55:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: PSUSA (#111)

You raise some legitimate reporting and journalistic question with regard to Madsen's report. I can't endorse everything that's in Madsen's story because there's just too much in it that is unattributed and not directly sourced.

Nevertheless, the story is interesting because it is written by a journalist who is not entirely lacking in expertise in the area that he's writing about, which is so often the case in journalism. Also because I have pretty made up my own mind about the object that we see in this week's video and that what I see is a missile, I'm am casting around for explanations that would tell me why a large booster takes off a few miles off our West Coast, and it takes days for the Pentagram and the rest of the Federal apparatus to get it's story straight.

China is not shy of using its muscle on us. They will force our planes down on their territory, and invade our naval exercises. China has strategic objectives that conflict with ours, and they will unceasingly attempt to put us off balance. I wouldn't put it past them to steal a march on us and send us a message in such an embarrassing manner that even the recipient conspires to keep it quiet. It's an interesting hypothesis.

We know that our government lies when the truth would sound better, and it only has itself to blame when wild and hairy stories sprout wings in the absence of a coherent narrative out of DC. It's also interesting to post unconventional propositions here because it raises hackles in certain quarters.

Cheers.

randge  posted on  2010-11-13   10:33:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: randge (#113)

Good post.

China has played some games with us in the past. We played games with them too. One that comes to mind was in bombing their embassy in Kosovo. I suppose that too was an act of war, since the embassy is technically Chinese territory.

I do not like people that constantly shout "wolf" though. And AJ is real good at using others to shout wolf for him when he doesn't feel like doing it himself.

Stories like the OP use words and phrases that intentionally allow plausible deniability. That is a pet peeve of mine. Writers like this should either make the assertion and prove it, by using real proof, or STFU.

I don't know what caused this "missile". Neither do I appreciate speculation that is disguised as fact. Perhaps our .gov doesn't know what happened either. They are not all-knowing like some people like to think that they are.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-11-13   10:53:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: PSUSA, Cynicom (#115)

an act of war

A phrase that pops up on the radar screen from time to time these days.

It's not a cold war, and it's not a hot war, it's a war on a low simmer right now.

randge  posted on  2010-11-13   11:11:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: randge (#116)

It's not a cold war, and it's not a hot war, it's a war on a low simmer right now.

Yep. And it doesn't have to go hot either, imo.

China could destroy us economically without firing a shot. That may not be necessarily a Bad Thing. Our empire, "The System", deserves to be destroyed, and we can still rebuild. And blowback to China would be minimal. A little disruption in their economy is a small price to pay for victory.

We turned the industries in Japan and Germany into big piles or rubble. They were forced to rebuild those old factories and make modern ones. That was a silver lining to the dark cloud, for them. And even then, I remember how when I was a kid in the 60's and 70's, having a "made in Japan" sticker on a product meant that it was junk, and was a joke. They don't make junk anymore. We can do better than they did.

Our industries took longer to destroy. But the end result is the same as if they had been bombed into oblivion. We can rebuild, but not until the corrupt system is destroyed first.

But, in reading thru this before I hit the post button, I realize our "leadership" isn't likely to just do nothing. That's kind of a scary thought. Maybe it all depends on how quickly the crash hits. It's best to not give our leaders too much time to act (or react). .

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