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Title: Wayne Madsen: China Fired Missile Seen In Southern California
Source: infowars.com
URL Source: http://www.infowars.com/wayne-madse ... e-seen-in-southern-california/
Published: Nov 12, 2010
Author: Wayne Madsen
Post Date: 2010-11-12 15:00:35 by randge
Keywords: Missile launch, Southern California, Madsen, China
Views: 1415
Comments: 124

Wayne Madsen: China Fired Missile Seen In Southern California
Prison Planet TV

Wayne Madsen Report
November 10, 2010

Pentagon and its embedded media covering up Chinese show of force off LA

China flexed its military muscle Monday evening in the skies west of Los Angeles when a Chinese Navy Jin class ballistic missile nuclear submarine, deployed secretly from its underground home base on the south coast of Hainan island, launched an intercontinental ballistic missile from international waters off the southern California coast. WMR’s intelligence sources in Asia, including Japan, say the belief by the military commands in Asia and the intelligence services is that the Chinese decided to demonstrate to the United States its capabilities on the eve of the G-20 Summit in Seoul and the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation summit in Tokyo, where President Obama is scheduled to attend during his ten-day trip to Asia.

The reported Chinese missile test off Los Angeles came as a double blow to Obama. The day after the missile firing, China’s leading credit rating agency, Dagong Global Credit Rating, downgraded sovereign debt rating of the United States to A-plus from AA. The missile demonstration coupled with the downgrading of the United States financial grade represents a military and financial show of force by Beijing to Washington.

The Pentagon spin machine, backed by the media reporters who regularly cover the Defense Department, as well as officials of the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD), and the U.S. Northern Command, is now spinning various conspiracy theories, including describing the missile plume videotaped by KCBS news helicopter cameraman Gil Leyvas at around 5:00 pm Pacific Standard Time, during the height of evening rush hour, as the condensation trail from a jet aircraft. Other Pentagon-inspired cover stories are that the missile was actually an amateur rocket or an optical illusion.

Experts agree that this was a ballistic missile being fired off of Los Angeles. Pentagon insists it was a jet aircraft or model rocket.

There are no records of a plane in the area having taken off from Los Angeles International Airport or from other airports in the region. The Navy and Air Force have said that they were not conducting any missile tests from submarines, ships, or Vandenberg Air Force Base. The Navy has also ruled out an accidental firing from one of its own submarines.

Missile experts, including those from Jane’s in London, say the plume was definitely from a missile, possibly launched from a submarine. WMR has learned that the missile was likely a JL-2 ICBM, which has a range of 7,000 miles, and was fired in a northwesterly direction over the Pacific and away from U.S. territory from a Jin class submarine. The Jin class can carry up to twelve such missiles.

Navy sources have revealed that the missile may have impacted on Chinese territory and that the National Security Agency (NSA) likely posseses intercepts of Chinese telemtry signals during the missile firing and subsequent testing operations.

Japanese and other Asian intelligence agencies believe that a Chinese Jin-class SSBN submarine conducted missile “show of force” in skies west of Los Angeles.

Asian intelligence sources believe the submarine transited from its base on Hainan through South Pacific waters, where U.S. anti-submarine warfare detection capabilities are not as effective as they are in the northern and mid-Pacific, and then transited north to waters off of Los Angeles. The Pentagon, which has spent billions on ballistic missile defense systems, a pet project of former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, is clearly embarrassed over the Chinese show of strength.

Likely route of Jin-class submarine from Hainan base.

The White House also wants to donwplay the missile story before Presidnet Obama meets with his Chinese counterpart in Seoul and Tokyo. According to Japanese intelligence sources, Beijing has been angry over United States and allied naval exercises in the South China and Yellow Seas, in what China considers its sphere of influence, and the missile firing within the view of people in Southern California was a demonstration that China’s navy can also play in waters off the American coast.

For the U.S. Navy, the Chinese show of force is a huge embarassment, especially for the Navy’s Pacific Command in Pearl Harbor, where Japan’s December 7, 1941 attack on the fleet at Pearl Harbor remains a sore subject.

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In 2002, national security adviser Condoleezza Rice reportedly scolded visiting Chinese General Xiong Guankai, the deputy chief of staff for intelligence of the People’s Liberation Army, for remarks he allegedly made in 1995 that China would use nuclear weapons on Los Angeles. Xiong denied he made any such comments but the “spin” on the story helped convince Congress to sink billions of additional dollars into ballistic missile defense, sometimes referred to at “Star Wars II.”

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Poster Comment:

Wayne Madsen is well known as an investigative reporter. Less well known is the fact that he trained at the Nay's Surface Warfare School. Madsen was assigned to anti-submarine acoustic sensing operationsa and was awarded a Navy Unit Commendation as part of the team that detected the first acoustic signature of a Soviet Alfa class submarine.

Madsen says that our highly advertised anti-submarine capability has been hollowed out in recent years and that we currently have only five ASW vessels to cover all the world's oceans. He cites the Navy's admission of the failure to detect a Chinese submarine that surfaced within weapons range of the USS Kitty Hawk task force several years ago.

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#5. To: randge (#0)

USS Kitty Hawk

Oh, this is ripe for gutting. I shall be happy to do so after a few more posts to your silly thread.

Just so you know, the US Navy west coast base located in San Diego as well as the US Marine base located in Oceanside has no observable evidence of Madsen's BS.

The USS Ronald Reagan was on the west coast this week on active duty primarily assisting some stranded Carnival passenger ship from some sort of malfunction off of Tijuana, Mexico. They have strategic global monitoring systems for these kinds of shenanigans.

That "missile" that was watched by a helicopter pilot for 10 minutes was just a passenger jet from Hawaii to Arizona. It was just an optical illusion because of the sunset and the contrail appearance in the sky.

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-12   15:28:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: buckeroo (#5)

The Navy NEVER lies.

randge  posted on  2010-11-12   15:30:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: randge (#7)

The Navy NEVER lies.

Well, the FAA has large range radar in Los Angeles,CA (LAX), Orange County, Ontario besides many other southern California , too. Nothing reported other than usual planned sky traffic. Nice try, pal... but no cigar.

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-12   15:43:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: buckeroo, randge, all (#15)

Well, the FAA has large range radar in Los Angeles,CA (LAX), Orange County, Ontario besides many other southern California , too. Nothing reported other than usual planned sky traffic. Nice try, pal... but no cigar.

As ex FAA, that is BS from your own mind buck.

If they come forward with a Flt number, we might have something to talk about.

They have said nothing buck and from their radar tapes they can.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-12   15:47:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Cynicom (#18)

As ex FAA, that is BS from your own mind buck.

If they come forward with a Flt number, we might have something to talk about.

Before moving too fast, Cynicom AND since you understand aircraft so well because your .... hmmmm.... FAA background, lets take a peek at the original photographer's (some helicopter pilot for a MSM trafficwatch) perspective

I watched the missile for ten minutes.

Isn't that statement ludicrus? A missile in the sky for ten minutes? Missiles travel at super sonic speeds perhaps as fast as Mach5. Go figure.

Now, back to your question...... from the FAA:

“The FAA ran radar replays of a large area west of Los Angeles based on media reports of the location of a possible missile launch around 5pm Monday. The radar replayed did not reveal any fast moving unidentified targets in that area. The FAA also did not receive reports of any unusual sightings from pilots who were flying in the area Monday afternoon. Finally the FAA did not approve any commercial space launches around the area Monday.”

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-12   16:00:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: buckeroo, randge, all (#21)

As ex FAA, that is BS from your own mind buck.

Buck...

What you are quoting is pap, pablum and poop from the media.

The FAA has NOT said WHO it was, until then trying to use media coverage is futile.

The Oakland FIR covers ten per cent of the worlds surface, FOR POSITIVE AIRCRAFT CONTROL AT ALL TIMES, NO EXCEPTIONS.

It extends from Oakland to near Anchorage, westward to near Japan, south nearly to the Philippines, to north of Australia, the largest FIR in the aviation world, with the latest up to date equipment.

In that vein, when they announce officially WHO THE AIRCRAFT WAS, that will end the speculation. Not until.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-12   16:12:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Cynicom (#24)

In that vein, when they announce officially WHO THE AIRCRAFT WAS, that will end the speculation. Not until.

I love ya Cynicom, but the contrail observed was from US Airways Flight 808 from Honolulu to Phoenix.

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-12   16:18:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: buckeroo (#27)

I love ya Cynicom, but the contrail observed was from US Airways Flight 808 from Honolulu to Phoenix.

That is from an official FAA announcement????

I have seen that in a blog, and that is where you got it from, I do read.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-12   16:19:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Cynicom (#29)

The FAA site doesn't have "official" statements based on some helicopter pilot's observation. So, I guess you can believe that the Chinese are coming.

Get that helmet on and clean the musket... its WAR! LOL

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-12   16:33:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: buckeroo (#31)

The FAA site doesn't have "official" statements based on some helicopter pilot's observation. So, I guess you can believe that the Chinese are coming.

Get that helmet on and clean the musket... its WAR! LOL

Buck...

Use a little reasoning...

If it was an aircraft, the FAA has the ability to identify it and dispel any doubt.

The military/norad jumped the shark by saying they did not know what it was.

The seed of doubt was sown by the government, not by the chopper pilot.

Out of the gate the military/government raised the speculation, not the civilian population.

In that area, Oakland FAA authorizes all missile launches, bar none.

They also have total control of all aircraft in a positive mode, bar none.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-12   16:44:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Cynicom (#34)

The seed of doubt was sown by the government, not by the chopper pilot.

Out of the gate the military/government raised the speculation, not the civilian population.

I understand your point still it is not a conclusion about the cause being some Chinese missile as in the article of this thread..... that sort of stuff by Madsen is why he gets ratings... BS.

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-12   16:53:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: buckeroo (#39)

I understand your point still it is not a conclusion about the cause being some Chinese missile as in the article of this thread..... that sort of stuff by Madsen is why he gets ratings... BS.

I agree...

However as a student of geopolitics you well know that NOTHING is denied off hand, every possibility is considered.

Either way buck, the government/military will indeed use it to sway a new Congress.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-12   16:57:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Cynicom (#40)

I might add that the FAA is under already under extreme pressure to reduce its budget; the Pentagon is too. I regard this as good news.

I wish DHS was under that same pressure. They seem to have infinite capability to piss away dollars while not doing anything.

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-12   17:13:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: buckeroo (#42)

I fought the FAA/government for twenty years, lost every battle, made a lot of enemies. One friend got to near the top of FAA a few years ago until he got chopped off.

They like all government agencies need to be cut down to size. For every worker earning his salt, doing a necessary job, there is another in hiding drawing more pay, doing nothing but shuffling papers.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-12   17:21:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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