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Title: Wayne Madsen: China Fired Missile Seen In Southern California
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Published: Nov 12, 2010
Author: Wayne Madsen
Post Date: 2010-11-12 15:00:35 by randge
Keywords: Missile launch, Southern California, Madsen, China
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Wayne Madsen: China Fired Missile Seen In Southern California Wayne Madsen Report Pentagon and its embedded media covering up Chinese show of force off LA China flexed its military muscle Monday evening in the skies west of Los Angeles when a Chinese Navy Jin class ballistic missile nuclear submarine, deployed secretly from its underground home base on the south coast of Hainan island, launched an intercontinental ballistic missile from international waters off the southern California coast. WMR’s intelligence sources in Asia, including Japan, say the belief by the military commands in Asia and the intelligence services is that the Chinese decided to demonstrate to the United States its capabilities on the eve of the G-20 Summit in Seoul and the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation summit in Tokyo, where President Obama is scheduled to attend during his ten-day trip to Asia. The reported Chinese missile test off Los Angeles came as a double blow to Obama. The day after the missile firing, China’s leading credit rating agency, Dagong Global Credit Rating, downgraded sovereign debt rating of the United States to A-plus from AA. The missile demonstration coupled with the downgrading of the United States financial grade represents a military and financial show of force by Beijing to Washington. The Pentagon spin machine, backed by the media reporters who regularly cover the Defense Department, as well as officials of the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD), and the U.S. Northern Command, is now spinning various conspiracy theories, including describing the missile plume videotaped by KCBS news helicopter cameraman Gil Leyvas at around 5:00 pm Pacific Standard Time, during the height of evening rush hour, as the condensation trail from a jet aircraft. Other Pentagon-inspired cover stories are that the missile was actually an amateur rocket or an optical illusion. Experts agree that this was a ballistic missile being fired off of Los Angeles. Pentagon insists it was a jet aircraft or model rocket. There are no records of a plane in the area having taken off from Los Angeles International Airport or from other airports in the region. The Navy and Air Force have said that they were not conducting any missile tests from submarines, ships, or Vandenberg Air Force Base. The Navy has also ruled out an accidental firing from one of its own submarines. Missile experts, including those from Jane’s in London, say the plume was definitely from a missile, possibly launched from a submarine. WMR has learned that the missile was likely a JL-2 ICBM, which has a range of 7,000 miles, and was fired in a northwesterly direction over the Pacific and away from U.S. territory from a Jin class submarine. The Jin class can carry up to twelve such missiles. Navy sources have revealed that the missile may have impacted on Chinese territory and that the National Security Agency (NSA) likely posseses intercepts of Chinese telemtry signals during the missile firing and subsequent testing operations. Japanese and other Asian intelligence agencies believe that a Chinese Jin-class SSBN submarine conducted missile “show of force” in skies west of Los Angeles. Asian intelligence sources believe the submarine transited from its base on Hainan through South Pacific waters, where U.S. anti-submarine warfare detection capabilities are not as effective as they are in the northern and mid-Pacific, and then transited north to waters off of Los Angeles. The Pentagon, which has spent billions on ballistic missile defense systems, a pet project of former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, is clearly embarrassed over the Chinese show of strength. Likely route of Jin-class submarine from Hainan base. The White House also wants to donwplay the missile story before Presidnet Obama meets with his Chinese counterpart in Seoul and Tokyo. According to Japanese intelligence sources, Beijing has been angry over United States and allied naval exercises in the South China and Yellow Seas, in what China considers its sphere of influence, and the missile firing within the view of people in Southern California was a demonstration that China’s navy can also play in waters off the American coast. For the U.S. Navy, the Chinese show of force is a huge embarassment, especially for the Navy’s Pacific Command in Pearl Harbor, where Japan’s December 7, 1941 attack on the fleet at Pearl Harbor remains a sore subject. Fresh food that lasts from eFoods Direct (Ad) In 2002, national security adviser Condoleezza Rice reportedly scolded visiting Chinese General Xiong Guankai, the deputy chief of staff for intelligence of the People’s Liberation Army, for remarks he allegedly made in 1995 that China would use nuclear weapons on Los Angeles. Xiong denied he made any such comments but the “spin” on the story helped convince Congress to sink billions of additional dollars into ballistic missile defense, sometimes referred to at “Star Wars II.” Poster Comment: Wayne Madsen is well known as an investigative reporter. Less well known is the fact that he trained at the Nay's Surface Warfare School. Madsen was assigned to anti-submarine acoustic sensing operationsa and was awarded a Navy Unit Commendation as part of the team that detected the first acoustic signature of a Soviet Alfa class submarine. Madsen says that our highly advertised anti-submarine capability has been hollowed out in recent years and that we currently have only five ASW vessels to cover all the world's oceans. He cites the Navy's admission of the failure to detect a Chinese submarine that surfaced within weapons range of the USS Kitty Hawk task force several years ago.
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#62. To: buckeroo (#58)
Smoke dope much?
We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Unlike yourself I am vindicated and totally exonerated.
We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop
I prequalified or forwarded my perspective in post#55: So with that brief post in mind, why are you spinning my words in later posts? If anyone is smoking dope or for that matter blundering into publick speculation because some self-aggrandizing author wants to play around with Chinese missiles launching off the coast of California, you might be wise to look at yourself.
Grey Thanks for that. More truth than poetry.
IFF radar is an important flight recognition method to understand issues about national defense. It is employed all over Canada and the USA. Couldn't "magic paint" [ref: bolded and underlined text + note in blue below] be why whatever it was apparently wasn't detected?: From 60 Minutes Transcript on Area 51, Interview of Jonathan Turley, Atty by Leslie Stahl: ACTUAL VERBAL TRANSCRIPT CBS-TV -- 60 MINUTES March 17, 1996. This 60 Minutes segment orignally aired on March 17, 1996. It follows the controversy at a top secret air base which supposedly doesn't exist. For more information regarding the lawsuit and / or Area 51, point your web browser at: http://www.cris.com/~psyspy/area51/ Leslie Stahl: Why this story is called Area 51 / Catch 22 will become clear as it unfolds. [sic] Stahl: The Air Force maintains that if they answer your question, then the enemy will be able to piece together a mosaic about the specific operations at Area 51. Turley: Yes, and that's just facially absurd. Stahl: Didn't you ever ask them any specifics? Turley: Yes. Stahl: Like what? Turley: Oh, we asked if they have jet fuel there. Stahl: Jet fuel.. What did they say? Turley: They said to "admit or deny the presence of jet fuel at an air base would put American lives in danger." Stahl: They said that? Turley: Oh yeah.. Stahl: C'mon.. What else did you ask? Turley: We asked about paint. Stahl: What ? (laughs) Turley: Not the magic paint, not the stuff that makes planes disappear..[My note: From radar?] Paint.. Like in your house. Stahl: What was the answer? Turley: "American lives would be put in danger if we answer that question." Stahl: No... Turley: Yeah...
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
There is no known issue with the buckeroo.
We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop
No. You are referring to "stealth capabilities" not IFF radar detection. Stealth technology (beyond the physical design of the craft) doesn't release plumes of observable mammoth contrails which is all about the 10 minute observation of some MSM trafficwatcher in a helicopter looking into the sunset.
That's what I meant by "magic paint". An ordinary aircraft going to Phoenix would probably not have stealth/radar invisibility capabilities, yes?
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Well, there is one that gets everyone's dander up ... I like to imbibe a bit of whiskey from time to time. Why folks don't like it, I don't know. Redbreast adds to my overall clarity of mind by permitting a bit of heightened awareness about the world. I think I will have another drink right now, so thank you and I toast to your post.
Of course. And no observable contrail plumes.
You are referring to "stealth capabilities" not IFF radar detection. Stealth technology (beyond the physical design of the craft) doesn't release plumes of observable mammoth contrails which is all about the 10 minute observation of some MSM trafficwatcher in a helicopter looking into the sunset. Suppose the objective was for the flying object to be unidentified but the plume was intended to be seen as a deliberate signal that something was there.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
And denied by the US government bureaucracies on all levels, too. Well, by golly, Madsen might be on to something. A Chinese nuclear submarine class Xia-class SSBN lauched an ICBM right off the coast of California! Run for your life! Although, I might add.... it might be a bit late.
just what I expected a jew lover to post.
ROTFL ... Oh what a fuckwad Madsen is... a complete shell of lies, bullshit and excessive self aggrandizement. How can anyone believe Madsen for or about anything? "His intelligence sources in Asia, including Japan" ... why doesn't he produce those same sources unless he is making this crap up? I wager Madsen has some illegal alien cleaning his 2010 Mercedes-Benz that was speaking in tongues!
Believe???? Buck it is a point of view. Nothing more. People here are astute enough to consider all views.
Run for your life! Although, I might add.... it might be a bit late. I haven't ruled out yet that it might have been one of those waterspout tornado phenomena: The thing with that theory, though, is that something was being discussed about a mystery launch in the Phoenix, AZ area around the same time where it's drier: MYSTERY MISSILE LAUNCH IN PHOENIX AZ Same As California Launch? Nov 5th Video! Here's an interesting comment at the YouTube site: "Well, if both are missile launches the missiles had to go somewhere. Where are they ?" My questions are: Didn't the KCBS News helicopter pilot/crew get any close up film of the object off the California coast? Maybe they did and it's been classified for some reason? I haven't seen anything about that, anyway. Is there at least a statement or interview of the helicopter pilot/crew that I've missed somehow? Odd if they're under a gag order or something. IHNN News Update: Mysterious Missile Launched in Southern California and Phoenix
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
No it isn't.. Madsen lied. Madsen clearly stated that his intelligence sources ... masquerading as though he has capability to fuck everyone on a halloween trick/treat night based upon his own speculation. Madsen is again, a liar. He is far from worthy of reading, much less commenting about. Your and my technical discussion on this same thread was greater by magnitudes of order than the initial post reading, Cynicom. At least you have gumption. Man, you are far more capable than some of these half-assed twits believing anything they find on the Internet.
Buck - What evidence do you have to say that WM is a liar? What intel has he ever given that has not been proven to be the truth?
Oh... just Great! From having a nuclear powered Chinese submarine off the coast of California by a derelict non-technical author or hyper-bullshit and claptrap ...... to NORAD is shutdown because the USA has ICBMs flying off to all points around the globe. I think this is just awesome. What can we do? I am not running, though. I am not hiding. I am pulling out another whiskey bottle to celebrate these rumours ... it doesn't get better than this on a Friday night!
You of all people take such seriously? You have your view or take, I guess we should figure you are lying as a government shill. Thats it, you are lying, shilling for the government. I knew it. End of consideration. See how ridiculous that is??? No, guess you wont and will deny being a shill. hehehehe
Here's my longshot Jetman theory: Swiss Jet-Man Flies Aerial Loop - cbsnews.com
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
That man has skill, talent and guts.
Oh .. Wayne Madsen is akin to Wikileaks,founder Julian Assange 'eh? ROTFL. Madsen is a continuous liar having no more credibility than those that report about Batboy in the Weekly World News; he is another BULLSHITTER akin to the coveted Joesph Farar of [World Net Daily] and his butt buddies.
I think this is just awesome. What can we do? I am not running, though. I am not hiding. I am pulling out another whiskey bottle to celebrate these rumours ... it doesn't get better than this on a Friday night! What do ya think of my Jetman Theory?
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Buck - What evidence do you have to say that WM is a liar? What intel has he ever given that has not been proven to be the truth? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ If you've got anything, please bring it now.
No large contrail plume. The phenomena by the inept reporters or speculators of and about a "mystery missile" is totally about de plane! de plane!... quote, borrowed from Fantasy Island TV history..
Time for Ignore on this increasingly inane thread.
I sent a note to Christine, asked her if she would pay me ten cents a post on that insane thread, inane too, she said no and told me to buzz off. I could have used the loot.
I am actually amazed that this evening you haven't stirred the pot with speculation that the "chemtrail" (hehehehe) wasn't loaded with some insidious method by the US government to murder Americans.... OR that some space alien was just emulating American technology for the fun of it.... ready to ploy another deep, dark inscription into a cropcircle for further evaluation.
Yes he does. The Intel Hub video mentioned a private rocketeer around the 1:30 mark as a possibility. I'm thinking that buckeroo won't need any whiskey for that one. :)
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Stop raining on buckie's parade. In Buckyworld® there's always room for more whiskey. Even his favorite flavor of Jello™ is 12 Years Old.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
So we're looping back to de plane!...de plane! theory -- with stealth/radar invisibility capability that likely wasn't an ordinary aircraft or cleared with the FAA as a Pentagon test and is strangely still unconfirmed as such by those sources, yes? I really thought you'd prefer the Jetman Theory, buckeroo. I suspect you'll be having some more whiskey as you try to come up with an explanation for the FAA's undetection and unawareness and the Pentagon's unclarity about it.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Well... it wasn't a bird... ....... and it wasn't superman, was it?
I don't know what came over me. It was like a Whiskey Rebellion thing or something. Not that I have anything against whiskey drinking within reason. I've embibed it myself on occasion. Different brands, though, than the one he mentioned.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Bucky owes much of his fine writing ability to two Scotsmen - Haig & Haig. Although it occasionally interferes with his coherence. And I must admit to, upon occasion, imbibing a wee bit of the Usigbethea meself. Tis one of the joys of life and wonders of Scots ingenuity.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Ok, now we're in agreement and narrowing down the possibilities. Stamp Act artifact. I don't think that one's from Britain but I could be wrong.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Whew ... I am glad. For awhile there I didn't think you remembered the Superman prelude and anthem.... from the 1950's Look up in the sky! It's a bird.... No ... it's a plane! ... No, its superman!
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#63. To: Cynicom (#3)
Where are the swamp gas,Venus and balloon guys when you need them????
#64. To: randge (#62)
Smoke dope much? [err: read and post Madsen?]
#65. To: buckeroo (#64)
There is no known issue with the US defense system.
#66. To: randge (#65)
The military has no need to hide anything other than obvious budgets and direct massacres on innocent people.
#67. To: GreyLmist (#63)
#68. To: buckeroo, All (#45)
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IFF radar. It is a method of identifying aircraft within the US and ally nations for Identification of Friend or Foe. Without this method of signaling this encrypted signature, aircraft (UFOs, enemy missiles, Tinkerbell, etc.) are not recognized and are considered hostile.
#69. To: buckeroo (#66)
#70. To: GreyLmist (#68)
Couldn't "magic paint" [ref: bolded and underlined text + note in blue below] be why whatever it was apparently wasn't detected?
#71. To: buckeroo (#51)
stealth capabilities (radar invisible)
#72. To: randge (#69)
There is no known issue with the buckeroo.
#73. To: GreyLmist (#71)
That's what I meant by "magic paint". An ordinary aircraft going to Phoenix would probably not have stealth/radar invisibility capabilities, yes?
#74. To: buckeroo (#70)
Couldn't "magic paint" [ref: bolded and underlined text + note in blue below] be why whatever it was apparently wasn't detected? No.
#75. To: GreyLmist (#74)
Suppose the objective was for the flying object to be unidentified but the plume was intended to be seen as a deliberate signal that something was there.
#76. To: Disgusted (#61)
#77. To: randge (#0)
WMR’s intelligence sources in Asia, including Japan, say the belief by the military commands in Asia and the intelligence services is that the Chinese decided to demonstrate to the United States its capabilities on the eve of the G-20 Summit in Seoul and the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation summit in Tokyo, where President Obama is scheduled to attend during his ten-day trip to Asia.
#78. To: buckeroo (#77)
ROTFL ... Oh what a fuckwad Madsen is... a complete shell of lies, bullshit and excessive self aggrandizement.
#79. To: buckeroo (#75)
(Edited)
denied by the US government bureaucracies on all levels, too. Well, by golly, Madsen might be on to something. A Chinese nuclear submarine class Xia-class SSBN lauched an ICBM right off the coast of California!
http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=PWbMieG2WkE
http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=bB3ZNpLDSLs
#80. To: Cynicom (#78)
Buck it is a point of view. Nothing more.
#81. To: buckeroo (#80)
#82. To: GreyLmist (#79)
#83. To: buckeroo (#80)
No it isn't.. Madsen lied.
#84. To: Cynicom (#78)
People here are astute enough to consider all views.
http://www.flixxy.com/jet-man-flying-aerial-loop.htm
#85. To: GreyLmist (#84)
#86. To: Lod (#81)
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China flexed its military muscle Monday evening in the skies west of Los Angeles when a Chinese Navy Jin class ballistic missile nuclear submarine, deployed secretly from its underground home base on the south coast of Hainan island, launched an intercontinental ballistic missile from international waters off the southern California coast. WMR’s intelligence sources in Asia, including Japan, say the belief by the military commands in Asia and the intelligence services is that the Chinese decided to demonstrate to the United States its capabilities on the eve of the G-20 Summit in Seoul and the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation summit in Tokyo, where President Obama is scheduled to attend during his ten-day trip to Asia.
#87. To: buckeroo (#82)
Oh... just Great! From having a nuclear powered Chinese submarine off the coast of California by a derelict non-technical author or hyper-bullshit and claptrap ...... to NORAD is shutdown because the USA has ICBMs flying off to all points around the globe.
#88. To: buckeroo, Lod, all (#86)
Attaboy Buck! You tell him!
#89. To: buckeroo (#86)
one last time -
#90. To: GreyLmist (#87)
#91. To: All (#89)
#92. To: Lod (#91)
Time for Ignore on this increasingly inane thread.
#93. To: Original_Intent (#88)
Attaboy Buck! You tell him!
#94. To: Cynicom (#85)
That man has skill, talent and guts.
#95. To: GreyLmist, Buckmonster Fullofit, buckeroo, Cynicom (#94)
I'm thinking that buckeroo won't need any whiskey for that one. :)
#96. To: buckeroo (#90)
No large contrail plume. The phenomena by the inept reporters or speculators of and about a "mystery missile" is totally about de plane! de plane!... quote, borrowed from Fantasy Island TV history..
#97. To: GreyLmist (#96)
So we're looping back to de plane!...de plane! theory -- with stealth/radar invisibility capability that likely wasn't an ordinary aircraft or cleared with the FAA as a Pentagon test and is strangely still unconfirmed as such by those sources, yes?
#98. To: Original_Intent (#95)
Stop raining on buckie's parade. In Buckyworld® there's always room for more whiskey.
#99. To: GreyLmist (#98)
#100. To: buckeroo (#97)
Well... it wasn't a bird... ....... and it wasn't superman, was it?
#101. To: GreyLmist (#100)
Ok, now we're in agreement and narrowing down the possibilities.
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